this is about Malcolm Gladwell's tome, not the last Roots album.

have you read it? in the book, Gladwell asserts that certain cultural phenomena (fashion trends, disease epidemics, crime waves) don't catch on gradually, but explode because the right person (or wrong person, depending on the phenomenon).

this seems to hold true in the universe of Okayplayer too; there was a time when *no* one would have repped the Dips and now...well, you know.

i know we have some amateur social scientists here (bongo, Olu, Lardlad) ; and i was curious as to whether anyone could point to some popular trend *here* that could be traced back to a "Patient Zero."

(or failing that, titties)

~G.D.

i've said time and time again that the addition of d'angelo was a turning point (if not a death-knell)

bfnh was quite the tastemaker (npa and all that)

there's tons of lemming-like stuff round these parts

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>there's tons of lemming-like stuff round these parts

~G.D.

read the book (all 60 of us..lol) and we actually had a lunch with malcolm to discuss the book....smart, charming guy.

there are quite a few here in okp...i'd have to think on it though.

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on the bottom....a lot of people do that now...well, eclipsed doesn't.

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i'm curious as to who started the ask me questions business?

and the ^^^^^>>>>><<<<< business...

i vaguely remember "cosign" wasn't always around either.

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like before we had login names, till right after we had to register.

Don't ask me why.
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"^^^^" was Quez, who is mainly a Lesson poster now.
Cats (including The Doc) saw his hilarious back-and-forths
in The Lesson, took the ball and ran with it.

He was in GD for a minute, dipped out, then dipped out of OKP altogether. Also, Quez is the tipping point for anything Dipset
in OKP...with him it seemed like it was overnight, as well.

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>"^^^^" was Quez, who is mainly a Lesson poster now.
>Cats (including The Doc) saw his hilarious back-and-forths
>in The Lesson, took the ball and ran with it.
>
>He was in GD for a minute, dipped out, then dipped out of OKP
>altogether. Also, Quez is the tipping point for anything
>Dipset
>in OKP...with him it seemed like it was overnight, as well.



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Again, the inclusion of D'Angelo to Okayplayer has been commonly blamed if only because of the influx of people.
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trends



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i mean, this site used to be a haven for stuck-up music nerds who would have laughed at anyone who said they were serious fan of Cam's cronies, and now?

i think fire has a huge part to play in it, as she carries a good deal of 'weight' in both GD and 'The Lesson'.

~G.D.

as well as the world around us. many people realized those they idolized were barely an arms length away from those they despised.

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shouldnt the peer pressure of the nerds also be contemplated

like..

did fire just ALLOW ppl to feel free to enjoy dipset whereas the 'fitting in' aspect of the 'music nerds' previously didnt allow for this?

or did ppl begin liking dipset just to be like fire?

obviously we would be remiss if we didnt mention quez but i figured id roll with your example

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she's a follower
the followers followed her

none of them liked cam when he first came out

is the one who got yall dipped up?!?!

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"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

>i think fire has a huge part to play in it, as she carries a
>good deal of 'weight' in both GD and 'The Lesson'.


yes she did
Dove too
(they both live in Harlem too)

and Lord Vinture and Quez too


i think the Dipset fans were here but silent..
then they came out

AND THEN

they got joined.. because they make entertainning posts


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she hasn't even been living in nyc that long
you are reaching

shouldn't we forget that AT THE SAME EXACT TIME, Dipset was embraced by the hipster and especially the hipster press ?
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an attempt to assume crediblity by claiming something atypical to their stereotype.

it's like the model chicks who cavort through complex magazine with "rap thugs" like 50 cent.

the same for a music snob who professes their love for less than quality music, to a fault. not to compare the quality of 50 cent's personage to the quality of an average-to-bad group like the diplomats.

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laid the foundation to it too ?

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and there's another group i can't think of the name right now that kind of quickly garnered mass appeal in here...i dunno who to credit for that though...*shrug*

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folks aren't following their leader to fall off a cliff.

has definitely had its cultish moments.
for better or worse, every 6 months or so, there is a new flavor of kool aid.

as far as the "lemming" usage, hyperbole is always fun.

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(and we're all lemmings to some extent)

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people have to hear it before they like it or not
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he did the earlier post about them i can think of


but then again there might be some less "known" posters before


he may have been the tipping point tho
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at least i think he's the one that put me on to them.

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1) leaders
2) followers
3) haters

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I still need to read both 'The tipping point' and 'blink' but I can grasp the basic concept.

Dipset is a pretty good example. As far as I remember, fire was patient zero for that. I was here very sporadically until recently though, so I won't be much use in identifying older trends.

It would be interesting to see where the new breed of conservative thought came from

http://www.last.fm/user/Olu/
http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/

>It would be interesting to see where the new breed of
>conservative thought came from

though i think most black people are social conservatives, something happened to make it okay for people to more outwardly so (there was a time when people would have at least offered up the perfunctory 'i'm not a racist/homophobe/etc, but...')

~G.D.

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them, all the NGEs, the Muslim crew (Allah and them), and the freshman revolutionaries.

fuck you.

or did they have better manners ?
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or they just lurked.

fuck you.

I don't think you can divorce okp from the larger society though. As the society around us has become increasingly polarized, that seems to have filtered through unto the boards too.

It could just be that what used to be unpopular opinions are less so these days

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http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/

Because it didn't useto be like that.

~G.D.

there are certainly posters who are more vocal(ie - stace, crich), and might make other folks more comfortable.

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as an easy scapegoat, but I think there's more to it than that.

it's a struggle because the word is a prominent showpiece in my lexicon. It isn't as if I don't have a vast vocabulary; I do and that wouldn't be questioned.

I think it's an easy word to use. It's an almost-curse word. It has a lot of familiar pain and also reverence attached to it. It flows in "speech", or in our cases onscreen.

The rise of the word doesn't indicate anything save for the fact folks are typing it.

Is it right or wrong? That determination need not be broad. If it's right or wrong for you, deal with it within the confines of your mind.

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add free use of bitch and hoe along with that...

Not that nigger wasn't being used in the black community as a term of endearment before then, but NWA took it to the next level.

It opened the flood gates in hip hop. Throw in 2$hort and 2 Live Crew, and hip hop had potty mouth and a way to get to the people.

Your folks mighta had a Redd Foxx album, but they bought it when they was grown, and they grew up in a diff time.

connect the dots man

that's what the post is about, is it not?

Every post title didn't have 'nigga' in it a few years ago.

and more boho-ish.
its as simple as times change.

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there's your trinity herewise

(maybe fire too, she's good for that)

ha.

geez. lay that garbage directly @ praverbs & staces door

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after richard pryor's "conversion" it was passe

then came cub n nem and suddenly it was the move (again)

all it takes is a seemingly well thought out justification to "tip"

fuck you.

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(like most things really)
but everyone knows someone who's trying to be in real estate these days. only makes sense it would trickle in here.

real estate is like rapping when you get older.
everyone is doing it. or trying to.

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I think Stace started it with Confession Wednesday.
piece,
R.


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piece,
R.


"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."
-Albert Einstein

i think Riccochet followed with fuck you fridays

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then confession wednesdays (stacy again..this is where it went nuts)

then the "what did we learn"

confession wednesday is the most popular

but i do think positive friday was the first...

i dont remember confession wednesday being around say last november....

but i think idenitifying patient zero is more about who made something popular versus who started it...

Started by Sereion(sp) and I think she started that at another board I used to be on...

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friendster...replaced blackplanet...but when did it become all about myspace?

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i noticed this first at my second home aka the apple store
back in the day everyone would come in to use the free computers
to check their hotmail and friedster page
now it's their gmail and myspace page
but back then u heard lots of complaints about friendster timing out n shit

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i've been here since 1999.

i dont remember a serious notch up in the usage rate until the last 2 years, at most.

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not saying nobody else ever did it, but he went through a phase where every post title was bitch this, bitch that, and it stuck.

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around the same time you had that gaggle of women talking calling each other bitches like it was cool/funny

witty/snarky posters at the time?
there aren't many women that are vocal and on that tip these days.
(not that this has a relation to "bitch" usage. just a thought)

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who was the first to have a myspace page in their sig?

when did ~ go from a thing of shame to the international symbol for
hollahollaholla?

"the moving to ny" trend, who started that?


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people got accounts to be able to check those


Vonclay ?
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.

KAWright went before him but she went before her identity was strongly tied to where ever she moved from. was she in Atlanta? see, i don't even remember where she used to live. Brain is different. he was 100% Indiana and then moved. watching him succeed and fail there emboldened some ppl to either make a move or at least talk about their move here.

fuck you.

KAWright went before him but she went before her identity was strongly tied to where ever she moved from. was she in Atlanta? see, i don't even remember where she used to live. Brain is different. he was 100% Indiana and then moved. watching him succeed and fail there emboldened some ppl to either make a move or at least talk about their move here.

fuck you.

piece,
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back when i joined up i think there was only Sankofa, 25percenter, and Pointfivefag.

fuck you.