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22. "I respect your opinion, Frank, but let's agree to disagree..."
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>I do think the songs build, even if they start very emotional
>and go to an even higher plane.

Which ones? I didn't catch it.

>Yes, musicals are melodramatic-- almost all of them, by
>nature. It's funny you mentioned Chicago below, one of the
>dryest least-emotional musicals of all-time (but therein lies
>its appeal, in its sexy cool detachment).

Chicago was stunning visually, but gave me a headache. The plot was so convoluated and ridiculous, it was impossible to follow. And no, Richard Gere CAN"T act OR sing. But damn if Latifa was the shizzle! She MADE that movie, what there was to be made.

>But it's really a pretty good show. By no means is it one of
>my favorite "shows", but it was done surprisingly well as a
>film. It's not a show I imagine lends itself to conversion to
>film easily, as you can tell by a few clunky transitions in
>the movie (there's so much "performance" of songs within the
>show that when they sing away from performance, it's awkward
>at first). But I thought it was filmed beautifully, Condon
>really created a nice world for those characters, and the
>performances were all pretty damn good. It's hard to sing
>those melodramatic songs with an earnestness that sucks you in
>the way that Hudson and Murphy and the others do.

No. I've seen more moving performances on Knight Rider.

>There are parts I don't dig, sure. But overall I really
>enjoyed it-- one of the better movie musicals I've seen since
>Chicago, probably the best since Chicago. And the nature of
>the beast is its melodramatic delivery... but that's what most
>musicals are.

Well, I did dig my own hole by saying I hate musicals, but is it a lesser evil? Stacked up against classic musicals? No. I'll take Busby Berkeley any day over this.

>After all, these characters have to feel SO emotional that
>words no longer cut it, they need to SING. There's something
>intrisically corny about that, but if you give yourself over
>to it, it can make for a pretty terrific experience.

Sort of like "Trapped in the Closet"? That's not entirely fair though. It was better than that.

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*Effasig*

  

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I know I'll get hate, but Dreamgirls was painful. [View all] , biscuit, Sun Jun-03-07 12:38 AM
 
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Now go away.
Jun 03rd 2007
1
DTS
Jun 03rd 2007
2
THX
Jun 03rd 2007
5
      *thumbs up*
Jun 03rd 2007
6
it wasn't a good movie
Jun 03rd 2007
3
cosign
Jun 03rd 2007
4
And here's why you thought these things:
Jun 03rd 2007
7
And you liked it because?
Jun 03rd 2007
8
      Like any good musical, it sweeps you up into its world.
Jun 04th 2007
19
          
                "Chicago" had a complicated plot?
Jun 04th 2007
31
Beyonce in 60's era get-ups = Money well spent.
Jun 03rd 2007
9
It wasn't painful..
Jun 03rd 2007
10
yeah, shit was wack
Jun 03rd 2007
11
this negated your entire post:
Jun 03rd 2007
12
I loved "The Sound of Music"
Jun 03rd 2007
13
      I've only seen part of "The Sound of Music"
Jun 03rd 2007
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           RE: I've only seen part of "The Sound of Music"
Jun 04th 2007
16
           First: _what_ Smokey Robinson songs?
Jun 04th 2007
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           RE: First: _what_ Smokey Robinson songs?
Jun 04th 2007
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                "A Breathtaking Guy" wasn't a hit.
Jun 05th 2007
40
           what he said ^
Jun 04th 2007
23
           Well then you need to UP your "musicals" watching....
Jun 04th 2007
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                I tend towards musicals...how can I say this politely...
Jun 04th 2007
28
                     that's pretty limiting...
Jun 04th 2007
30
                          I said "tend towards", not "I only watch."
Jun 04th 2007
33
This isn't GD; you're safe, brother.
Jun 03rd 2007
15
ITA
Jun 04th 2007
17
You know?
Jun 04th 2007
25
I agree. Worst movie I've seen in years.
Jun 04th 2007
20
You haven't seen many movies.
Jun 04th 2007
21
      I have.
Jun 04th 2007
26
      But did you really think it was the WORST movie in years?
Jun 04th 2007
27
           Not the worst, but definitely not deserving of the Oscar nods
Jun 04th 2007
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                not even the technical awards?
Jun 04th 2007
32
      lol...how do you know how many movies I've seen?
Jun 04th 2007
34
           Because Dreamgirls is not THAT bad, even if you hate it.
Jun 04th 2007
38
                it wasn't that bad to *YOU*, Frank
Jun 05th 2007
39
(checks watch) The official Dreamgirls backlash is only 4 months behind
Jun 04th 2007
35
some of these folks are just late. And mean.
Jun 04th 2007
36

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