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"So....how do we describe the changes from 2000-2009 in Rap?"


  

          

What was the best year, or best few years? 2000? 2003?

What would you say the low point was...06-07? The ringtone Rap era?

Do we count any mixtapes as classics, and are they measured at the same level as an official CD release classic?

Do you feel anything about the decade was better than the 90's? Whether it was the top lyricists...or production...club music...or even contributions from cities that weren't dominant in the 90's.

You can mention anything else about the decade, really. I feel like we talk about the 90's all the time, but I wonder how we'll judge the 00's in the future.

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So....how do we describe the changes from 2000-2009 in Rap? [View all] , -DJ R-Tistic-, Thu Jul-25-13 05:06 PM
 
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The Stones Throw run during the early 00s was uncalled for.
Jul 25th 2013
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My Take
Jul 25th 2013
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RE: My Take
Jul 25th 2013
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one of the most humorous aspects to me...
Jul 25th 2013
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It's a beautiful thing, man. That whole "he's not popular so he's good"
Jul 25th 2013
5
      has nothing to do with what phil was getting at
Jul 25th 2013
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      im not a fan of either of those dudes...
Jul 25th 2013
8
Eminem
Jul 25th 2013
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RE: So....how do we describe the changes from 2000-2009 in Rap?
Jul 25th 2013
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i would also say that one of the most unfortunate developments...
Jul 25th 2013
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hmmmm
Jul 25th 2013
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      i know i have
Jul 25th 2013
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      its just horrible
Jul 25th 2013
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           is it this endemic in any other art, do you think?
Jul 25th 2013
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                I don't think so
Jul 25th 2013
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      fuck it was awful
Jul 25th 2013
15
in the year 2000
Jul 25th 2013
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my FR yr of college and every album on there was huge for me
Jul 26th 2013
41
shit i cant believe i forgot Back for the First Time
Jul 26th 2013
42
And on our side, Restless and Da Last Meal
Jul 28th 2013
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      Da Last Meal was when Snoop really came back if you ask me
Aug 01st 2013
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I'm in the worst decade in rap camp
Jul 25th 2013
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thing about DOOM's run...
Jul 25th 2013
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well *of course* it's the worst decade of the genre. That's unavoidable.
Jul 26th 2013
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yet I didn't focus my post in that way
Jul 26th 2013
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      you're absolutely right, I just did a general riff off your subject line
Jul 26th 2013
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           cool. you know thinking about it I did enjoy Cam's persona as well
Jul 27th 2013
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The 2nd half of the decade was brutal for backpack rap
Jul 27th 2013
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      RE: The 2nd half of the decade was brutal for backpack rap
Aug 01st 2013
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808 drums defined the decade's sound...at least mainstream
Jul 25th 2013
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The decade is the worst if you focus on mainstream but
Jul 25th 2013
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I'll tell you one thing...
Jul 25th 2013
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things were rough all over.
Jul 25th 2013
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there were a shit ton of gatekeepers in the first half n/m
Jul 25th 2013
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      curators imploded so badly from 04 onwards.
Jul 27th 2013
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Would this mean folks like Atmosphere, Aesop? Or who?
Jul 26th 2013
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This is a weird statement to me...
Jul 26th 2013
44
As a whole, I'd say I'm more of a "Hip Hop" or even "Underground"
Jul 26th 2013
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      I think a lot of the blame can be cast on the fans of said music
Jul 27th 2013
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           its not a seperate post and you and RTistic are spot on
Jul 27th 2013
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                THIS.....THIS....THIS...X10!!
Jul 28th 2013
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                     Been trying to figure out how to address all of this
Jul 29th 2013
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                          this sums it up
Jul 29th 2013
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:(
Jul 26th 2013
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      It's just not touchin Find a way. Runnin. Players. I don't know.
Jul 27th 2013
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           that's cool
Jul 27th 2013
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           Yea that is for sure. He almost had two distinct eras
Jul 28th 2013
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           agreed n/m
Jul 27th 2013
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which "underground" records are you talking about?
Jul 26th 2013
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oh boy a conversation i've been trying to have for 3 years...
Jul 25th 2013
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but how come when i asked you directly what year
Jul 25th 2013
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what year... what?
Jul 25th 2013
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      i don't even remember... LOL!!
Jul 26th 2013
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           RE: i don't even remember... LOL!!
Jul 26th 2013
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                that's why i say writing was on the wall
Jul 26th 2013
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                     2001 was a hotter year than 2000 in terms of material.
Jul 26th 2013
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                          Once Phillips sold Polygram to Seagrams it was a wrap for the industry
Jul 26th 2013
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                               I think its under-discussed/analyzed how much those mergers affected
Jul 27th 2013
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This is the best condensng of your main points so far. Well done.
Jul 26th 2013
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RE: This is the best condensng of your main points so far. Well done.
Jul 26th 2013
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and thats the piece of the puzzle i got focusing on
Jul 27th 2013
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      you're not romanticizing poverty in the least
Jul 27th 2013
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i agree with most of what you said but The Source was done before 02
Jul 27th 2013
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Oh boy...
Jul 25th 2013
25
I have a theory about it that has to do with the decline in rock
Jul 25th 2013
29
one other thing about 2000's rap...
Jul 26th 2013
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People just seem to worship the hell out of the 90's for EVERYTHING
Jul 29th 2013
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to me it was a turning of the guard
Jul 26th 2013
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Favorites 2000-2009
Jul 26th 2013
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2006-2007 are my favorite years
Jul 26th 2013
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This is an underrated album
Jul 26th 2013
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      yeah that album is dope
Jul 26th 2013
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gotta dip for work but I'll rank em right quick
Jul 26th 2013
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its kinda weird for me cos i was born in '87
Jul 27th 2013
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in your broken beat post I even said I wished I got into it at the time
Jul 27th 2013
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The best stuff was connected to Quest, Kast, or Kanye.
Jul 27th 2013
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smh
Jul 27th 2013
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      That ain't narrow tho
Jul 27th 2013
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           I would add Madlib/Doom
Jul 28th 2013
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           yeah, its a pretty narrow group
Jul 28th 2013
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                but see I feel like Dilla wasn't "change"
Jul 28th 2013
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                     this sounds like gobbledygook to me
Jul 29th 2013
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                     This is bullshit
Jul 29th 2013
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                     Really bad writing on my part
Jul 29th 2013
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                     RE: but see I feel like Dilla wasn't "change"
Jul 29th 2013
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I think mixtapes should be measured on the same level as albums
Jul 27th 2013
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I used to be such an epic backpacker
Jul 27th 2013
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does this mean you avoided mainstream during the time
Jul 27th 2013
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i couldn't, based on my job and other factors
Jul 28th 2013
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Give some examples of backpacker acts/albums that haven't aged well
Jul 28th 2013
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u think that ties into whats going on today at all?
Jul 30th 2013
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music that will stay with me forever came out that decade
Jul 28th 2013
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word to all of this
Jul 28th 2013
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my thoughts:
Jul 28th 2013
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lol, i had to google prescriptivist/descriptivist
Jul 28th 2013
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I'll say this. Jerkin music in 2009 = Best thing that happened for L.A. ...
Jul 28th 2013
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I'd Like To Hear This
Jul 29th 2013
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RE: I'd Like To Hear This
Jul 29th 2013
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      I think you are only looking at it with your DJ glasses on
Jul 29th 2013
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           I think "best" vs "most important" is a major difference in what I'm say...
Jul 29th 2013
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                It's hard to even agree with "Best"
Jul 29th 2013
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                     RE: It's hard to even agree with "Best"
Jul 30th 2013
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RE: I'll say this. Jerkin music in 2009 = Best thing that happened for L...
Jul 29th 2013
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      Got to. Truth is, L.A. folks really don't look down on the Bay, and have
Jul 30th 2013
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the democratization of the music
Jul 28th 2013
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i don't think music has been democratised though
Jul 29th 2013
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      I don't follow. What do you mean?
Jul 31st 2013
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           the bottom end opened up
Aug 01st 2013
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The Superproducer era had more minuses than pluses. Wasn't all
Jul 29th 2013
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I think the most notable thing about this era
Jul 30th 2013
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      It did. Yet, it kinda created it too
Jul 30th 2013
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           this is true
Jul 31st 2013
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Flavor Flav and Chuck D get bored, log on to Lesson, give interview
Jul 29th 2013
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