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13. "Hmm...I see what you mean, but I think I can define what's dated vs"
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timeless in a lot of cases.

>I also don't buy the false distinctions made so often between
>"timeless" and "dated" music. That separation is very much in
>the ear of the specific listener, and it's so era-dependent.
>Something that sounds dated now may come across as "timeless"
>in another ten years if music trends swing a different way,
>and something that seems timeless today might suddenly sound
>extremely dated down the road. People have such a hard time
>seeing things from a perspective other than their own,
>current, limited one - or even understanding that other
>perspectives can or will exist, now or in the future.

One major thing I feel is that for 80's Rap and R&B, the music that's been sampled the most is the most timeless, because it had something in the drum sounds, melody, drum pattern, or whatever else, that has appealed to folks who weren't there to enjoy it. So all the 80's Rap songs I mentioned above, plus those like Top billin, Paul revere, etc...and for R&B, Make it last forever, Computer love, Between the sheets, Sexual healing....I feel those are timeless, not because they show them on Time Life compilations or Best of lists, but because those songs just had something (or everything) that still sound just as good today, and always have.

With NJS, I feel that most of that sounds dated, and proof is that Poison, then maybe MotownPhilly, Remember the time, Night and day, and a few others are really enjoyed by people who weren't part of that era.

In a way, most of the classic songs that come from each era are timeless, but you can't really judge it until years and years down the road. Many of the biggest hits at the time end up sounding dated even 2-3 years later, although some will come back and end up having a sound that's recycled later on.

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Is it a bad thing to say that music sounds "dated?" [View all] , -DJ R-Tistic-, Wed Feb-08-12 07:04 PM
 
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The "dated" sound of late 80's rap music is interesting to me.
Feb 08th 2012
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See, here's where I'm at with 80's Rap....
Feb 08th 2012
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      only because "modern" production has jacked that style
Feb 09th 2012
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      part of that probably has to do with sampling laws killing the style
Feb 09th 2012
29
I wrote about this in another thread semi-recently...
Feb 08th 2012
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I agree. I feel like "dated" music to someone who loved that era is
Feb 08th 2012
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      Yep - definitely.
Feb 08th 2012
15
Music sounding dated
Feb 08th 2012
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I HATE that most girls my age and in their 20's don't enjoy ANY music
Feb 08th 2012
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      everything Ruff Ryders/Murder Inc. sounds awful now
Feb 09th 2012
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RE: Is it a bad thing to say that music sounds "dated?"
Feb 08th 2012
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I feel like dated and "outdated" are used interchangeably but shouldn't
Feb 08th 2012
10
RE: It's too ambiguous to be a good OR a bad thing.
Feb 08th 2012
5
Yea that makes sense. A lot of times, I will say that some music sounds
Feb 08th 2012
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      RE: I get that. I really do.
Feb 08th 2012
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           It's because there are some artists who's music just had a timeless feel
Feb 08th 2012
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I like a lot of music specifically because it sounds dated
Feb 08th 2012
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Exactly
Feb 08th 2012
12
It definitely isn't a nonsense term, and in SOME cases, I feel that you
Feb 08th 2012
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      The problem with relying too much on technology...
Feb 08th 2012
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           RE: This is exactly it:
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           I see what you mean, but here's what I think makes a difference...
Feb 08th 2012
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                The reason the groundbreakers often held up better than the copycats...
Feb 08th 2012
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                     Yea I can definitely see that. In some cases, folks are able to improve
Feb 08th 2012
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yes it is, because if the songwriting ain't there it makes it suffer
Feb 08th 2012
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Music Sounding Dated = Older Sub-Genre
Feb 09th 2012
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RE: Is it a bad thing to say that music sounds "dated?"
Feb 09th 2012
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lol I hate ''dated'' and ''timeless''
Feb 09th 2012
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if it sounds dated by a fad or certain equipment, sure
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