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23. "Yea I can definitely see that. In some cases, folks are able to improve"
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on what somebody else brings in, and then it also goes in circles...Producer A makes something new and fresh, B comes and imitates and puts a twist but it's not as good, then producer C comes and modifies that and makes it just as good or even better than producer A did.

Of course, this is
>hard to prove, it may be subconscious so you think it sounds
>better just because you know it comes from the originator.
>However, I often think you can hear it as well even if it's
>hard to explain in words. Especially when older artists who
>were already established in another style tries something, it
>can even get embarassing at times...

That's when a LOT of producers end up falling off, and falling off hard. Such as how Jermaine Dupri borrowed Scott Storch's style during that Mariah Carey "It's like that" era. It wasn't bad, but it was blatant that he was using his style. I feel that JD was dope at modifying the G-Funk in the 90's though...might even say he's an example of "Producer C" in my paragraph above.

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Is it a bad thing to say that music sounds "dated?" [View all] , -DJ R-Tistic-, Wed Feb-08-12 07:04 PM
 
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The "dated" sound of late 80's rap music is interesting to me.
Feb 08th 2012
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See, here's where I'm at with 80's Rap....
Feb 08th 2012
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      only because "modern" production has jacked that style
Feb 09th 2012
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      part of that probably has to do with sampling laws killing the style
Feb 09th 2012
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I wrote about this in another thread semi-recently...
Feb 08th 2012
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I agree. I feel like "dated" music to someone who loved that era is
Feb 08th 2012
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      Yep - definitely.
Feb 08th 2012
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Music sounding dated
Feb 08th 2012
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I HATE that most girls my age and in their 20's don't enjoy ANY music
Feb 08th 2012
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      everything Ruff Ryders/Murder Inc. sounds awful now
Feb 09th 2012
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RE: Is it a bad thing to say that music sounds "dated?"
Feb 08th 2012
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I feel like dated and "outdated" are used interchangeably but shouldn't
Feb 08th 2012
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RE: It's too ambiguous to be a good OR a bad thing.
Feb 08th 2012
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Yea that makes sense. A lot of times, I will say that some music sounds
Feb 08th 2012
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      RE: I get that. I really do.
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           It's because there are some artists who's music just had a timeless feel
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I like a lot of music specifically because it sounds dated
Feb 08th 2012
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Exactly
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It definitely isn't a nonsense term, and in SOME cases, I feel that you
Feb 08th 2012
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      The problem with relying too much on technology...
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           RE: This is exactly it:
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           I see what you mean, but here's what I think makes a difference...
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                The reason the groundbreakers often held up better than the copycats...
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Hmm...I see what you mean, but I think I can define what's dated vs
Feb 08th 2012
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yes it is, because if the songwriting ain't there it makes it suffer
Feb 08th 2012
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Music Sounding Dated = Older Sub-Genre
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RE: Is it a bad thing to say that music sounds "dated?"
Feb 09th 2012
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lol I hate ''dated'' and ''timeless''
Feb 09th 2012
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if it sounds dated by a fad or certain equipment, sure
Feb 09th 2012
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