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kfine
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17. "It's nothing like Yang's UBI plan lol, what are you talking abt."
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Mon Feb-15-21 12:29 PM by kfine

          

Yang proposed increasing taxes on corporations and high-earners, capital gains, and introducing a carbon tax to make 1000USD per mth/12000USD per yr available to all Americans 18+ over regardless of parental status.

Romney's explicitly proposing the *ELIMINATION* of welfare/TANF, the EITC, and multiple other benefits to pay for a benefit ranging from 250USD/mth to 1250/mth available to *parents only*.

I remember you saying you wish there was a way for wealthy people to opt out of Yang's UBI, which I conceded was a fair point, and I'm sure you like Romney's suggestion that wealthy parents who don't need their checks can just *return* their money to the gov by tax day (tho personally, I don't think as many wealthy people would do this as ppl think lol). But if you're talking abt the choice thing you guys hate i.e. Yang's suggestion that folks currently on TANF etc *choose* whether they want to stay on it or go on UBI, that is categorically different than Romney dismantling such programs for funds to pay for his benefit.

Nah. One proposal targets the most capitalized coroporations on the planet (eg. big tech, financial transactions) and high-earners for *new sources of revenue* to pay for it's benefit, the other proposal *redirects funds* from current welfare programs and tax credits for revenue with the explicit aim of cancelling them. Saving programs money isn't the same as eliminating them. Romney's plan is the actual plan you guys (mistakenly) thought Yang's plan was lol come on

  

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What do you think of Romney's Plan to give parents up to $15k/Year [View all] , mista k5, Fri Feb-05-21 05:30 PM
 
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i think they do something like that in Germany
Feb 05th 2021
1
Fuck that dude and his broodmare
Feb 06th 2021
2
I agree with a lot of this
Feb 06th 2021
3
why does every plan have to help all people or its bashed?
Feb 15th 2021
6
      Re: Tuition. Doesn't have to help all. Just don't help wealthy dispropor...
Feb 15th 2021
10
           no, I wasnt a fan of the tax cuts..
Feb 15th 2021
12
                No the problem was that they *did* work as intended lol.
Feb 15th 2021
19
                     true
Feb 15th 2021
23
As someone with two kids and paying for childcare, I support it
Feb 06th 2021
4
We are almost out of the weeds with daycare
Feb 15th 2021
7
Republicans are marketing geniuses cuz how is this Mitt Romney's Plan!?!...
Feb 14th 2021
5
hes not the first to propose the benifits
Feb 15th 2021
11
Are there any obligations on the parents end?
Feb 15th 2021
8
ehh.. next thing you know you child belongs to the state
Feb 15th 2021
9
      Not at all. It's already a helping hand from the govt
Feb 15th 2021
13
           if its directly to daycare how does that help with bad parenting?
Feb 15th 2021
16
He wants to eliminate welfare/TANF (among other programs) to pay for it.
Feb 15th 2021
14
yeah thats the yangs ubi part that has me squinting
Feb 15th 2021
15
      dbl post
Feb 15th 2021
     
           somewhat in jest
Feb 15th 2021
18
                Yang's UBI proposal didn't *take away* any existing benefits tho lol
Feb 15th 2021
20
                     Yang's is Republican lite with better marketing
Feb 15th 2021
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                          Lol I already know you only fuck with pure universal
Feb 15th 2021
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