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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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"Poll question: If this $15 minimum wage kicks in, can we finally get rid of tipping?"
Mon Feb-01-21 08:32 AM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

One of the main arguments for tipping is that waiters/waitresses don't get paid enough. So tips are essential. Nevermind the fact that currently, by law, they must earn at least minimum wage.

But if the minimum wage gets boosted to $15, this argument goes out the window, right?

It's past time to get rid of this nonsense custom. The customer should have no role in determining how much the employee is paid. Nothing good comes out of it. All it does is:
-Compels the customer to subsidize the company
-Makes it easier to conduct wage theft
-Creates a strange power dynamic between customer and waitress.
-Creates pay inequality due to discrimination
-Forces people to do math

Get rid of tipping. Restaurants just need to raise prices if necessary

Poll result (18 votes)
I'm still going to tip (12 votes)Vote
I'm going to stop tipping (3 votes)Vote
It depends on the situation/restaurant (3 votes)Vote

  

  

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If this $15 minimum wage kicks in, can we finally get rid of tipping? [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Feb-01-21 08:32 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
lol @ forces people to do math
Feb 01st 2021
1
When I go out with my parents, tipping adds at least 5 minutes lol
Feb 01st 2021
3
my mom always wanted to leave just $5.
Feb 01st 2021
13
Yeah that line is hilarious
Feb 01st 2021
19
Do the $15 minimum wage proposals apply to waiters and waitresses?
Feb 01st 2021
2
Tipped employees get at least minimum wage
Feb 01st 2021
4
no. grow up.
Feb 01st 2021
5
why are you opposed? what's grown about it?
Feb 01st 2021
9
      $15 an hour still isn't enough. And I don't mind paying for service
Feb 01st 2021
16
           ><
Feb 01st 2021
18
           Even if they *didn't* do their job well, we still tip.
Feb 01st 2021
22
I don't like the custom, since employers should be paying their staff
Feb 01st 2021
6
Alot of tip defenders like the moral satisfaction they get from
Feb 01st 2021
7
Yeah that's part of the weird power dynamic I was getting at
Feb 01st 2021
8
Tipping should return to what it was supposed to be
Feb 01st 2021
10
$15 still isn't close to a living wage so no
Feb 01st 2021
11
Does this thought come to mind when you encounter other low wage workers...
Feb 01st 2021
21
      I believe everyone should be paid a living wage and every
Feb 01st 2021
46
Only if you think people can live on $15 an hour
Feb 01st 2021
12
RE: If this $15 minimum wage kicks in, can we finally get rid of tipping...
Feb 01st 2021
14
I hope it happens.
Feb 01st 2021
15
I waitressed + bartended somewhere that paid a little <15/hr and still
Feb 01st 2021
17
It's a nonsense custom because it's nonsensical for many reasons
Feb 01st 2021
20
      You are absolutely right.
Feb 01st 2021
23
      So would you still tip/want to tip if those employees were paid fairly?
Feb 01st 2021
25
           It's just a shitty custom, the way it is in the US at least.
Feb 01st 2021
26
                Right, but this is why I asked how you would feel if the wage problem
Feb 01st 2021
29
                     I don't think it should be "abolished."
Feb 01st 2021
36
                          Ok, I understand. I think even I can rock with you on the loosening of
Feb 01st 2021
41
                               Yea this is exactly what I was thinking.
Feb 01st 2021
42
      Harmful and nonsensical effects according to... you? Have you worked
Feb 01st 2021
24
           I agree. I don't think the wage problem is the issue
Feb 01st 2021
27
                Ok, I hear you. So what specific discriminatory and predatory practices
Feb 01st 2021
37
you ever had a job where you would get tips?
Feb 01st 2021
28
Yes
Feb 01st 2021
31
hmm. and your good with that eh? ok.
Feb 01st 2021
32
      I would have much rather known that 6 hours of work = $xx...
Feb 01st 2021
35
           Yep yep yep.
Feb 01st 2021
38
           But this is why the minimum wage should apply across the board
Feb 02nd 2021
65
                Right. I never said otherwise.
Feb 02nd 2021
77
           I get that...
Feb 01st 2021
40
           Your discrimination argument makes sense. Tips also kind of help too tho
Feb 01st 2021
43
Should be mandatory like military service in Israel lol
Feb 01st 2021
44
it's only step one
Feb 01st 2021
30
Service is hard. Is is a premium occupation in many
Feb 01st 2021
33
I agree.
Feb 01st 2021
39
I think the personal nature of service jobs warrant tipping.
Feb 02nd 2021
60
the last thing I want to do when I'm drunk is math... LOL!
Feb 01st 2021
34
I felt this LOL. In those dim lit places on top of it too LOL
Feb 01st 2021
45
I always find this funny when people break out their phones
Feb 02nd 2021
50
This is what happens when people over politicize
Feb 02nd 2021
47
This makes sense but why don't other countries' restaurants ...
Feb 02nd 2021
48
Most European countries have a foundation of socialism.
Feb 02nd 2021
54
tipping is inherently political.
Feb 02nd 2021
52
You don’t make any sense.
Feb 02nd 2021
63
      Be specific, what isn't making sense for you?
Feb 02nd 2021
73
A lot of this seems like "that's just the way it is"
Feb 02nd 2021
55
Other countries use the Metric System and we use Fractions.
Feb 02nd 2021
67
      My thing is, we don't even have to go as far as Europe to compare.
Feb 02nd 2021
72
Did you just flex on dividing by ten?
Feb 02nd 2021
62
      Lol
Feb 02nd 2021
69
           lol, hey, someone had to make the crack man
Feb 02nd 2021
71
I make $20-$28/hr on tips most nights before factoring in my $4/hr wage
Feb 02nd 2021
49
^^Boom
Feb 02nd 2021
51
a high traffic restaurant in a major city is a gold mine
Feb 02nd 2021
78
and then there's this. ^^^ we fighting for crumbs rn man. shits crazy
Feb 02nd 2021
53
Why couldn't the restaurant pay you $30 an hour then?
Feb 02nd 2021
56
      They're willing to tip the bartender.
Feb 02nd 2021
58
      The answer is going to be different in hundreds of different ways.
Feb 02nd 2021
85
This isn't in my top 50 thoughts regarding the $15 wage
Feb 02nd 2021
57
Removing tipping would increase most people's wages
Feb 02nd 2021
59
      You don't have to tip NOW.
Feb 02nd 2021
61
      You're right that this isn't about the minimum wage
Feb 02nd 2021
66
      Lol! Wat.But you're in here lobbying for tip abolition and price hikes
Feb 02nd 2021
68
      No it would not
Feb 02nd 2021
76
           Agreed. Once that minimum wage issue is resolved
Feb 02nd 2021
79
                right. Like you said
Feb 02nd 2021
82
I think they'll land on the $10.10 number, ensuring unhappiness
Feb 02nd 2021
64
lol.
Feb 02nd 2021
74
i didnt know people were making over median wage at restaurants
Feb 02nd 2021
70
In lots of countries, they'll be offended if you try to give them a tip
Feb 02nd 2021
75
      Why discouraged?
Feb 02nd 2021
80
It's not tipping I believe in, it's over tipping!
Feb 02nd 2021
81
You just identified the problem without meaning to.
Feb 02nd 2021
83
      I understand your point....
Feb 02nd 2021
84

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