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40thStreetBlack
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Tue Aug-04-15 04:22 PM
79. "baloney"
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Apparently, being a holistic doctor can be hazardous to your health
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Sun Aug-02-15 09:15 AM
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And being a holistic dentist for that matter...
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
1
A lot of these dudes are snake oil salesmen
John Forte
Aug 02nd 2015
2
That's YOUR opinion. EVEN IF that's true, does that mean they deserved
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
3
It's a scientific fact that a lot of these chiropractors are frauds
John Forte
Aug 02nd 2015
4
Who's science determines that these practices are fraudulent?
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
5
nah b, "scientific fact" would mean ALL chiropractors are frauds
PoppaGeorge
Aug 02nd 2015
6
well chiropractics is at least partially based on falsity -
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
18
Whatever...the BOTTOM LINE is that they manage to help some people,
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
21
thats why im not willing to say they are "frauds" as a blanket
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
25
Well, that's my same position on conventional medical doctors.
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
29
anyone who says they have a better plan than academic physiology -
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
30
And this is precisely why western medicine has ignored chinese medicine
vee-lover
Aug 02nd 2015
32
"Traditional" Chinese Medicine isn't as old as you think:
Backbone
Aug 03rd 2015
37
Did you read the link? Chinese medicine has been practiced for OVER
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
40
German medicine too!
Backbone
Aug 03rd 2015
49
what's your point? you linked up an article that you said thought
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
52
RE: what's your point? you linked up an article that you said thought
Backbone
Aug 04th 2015
71
Are you serious? Germany didn't even exist as a nation 2000 years ago.
CaptainRook
Aug 03rd 2015
66
no nations existed 2000 years ago. The point he's making is that
John Forte
Aug 03rd 2015
67
^ This. Thanks.
Backbone
Aug 04th 2015
70
Oh so China didn't exist 2000 yrs ago? oh ok
vee-lover
Aug 04th 2015
73
I gave you a concrete example of TCM being bullshit
John Forte
Aug 04th 2015
75
How old is Egypt? How old is Ethiopia? How old is China?
CaptainRook
Aug 04th 2015
80
Anyone who believes that academic physiology philosophy and practice
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
35
And yet many MDs in the US kill 1000s of patients every year as a
vee-lover
Aug 02nd 2015
9
or plain negligence.
PoppaGeorge
Aug 02nd 2015
12
or a bad paradigm for healing people of sickness and disease.
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
15
mistakes by practitioners =/= faulty science
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
19
These are *preventable deaths* that have reached a record high
vee-lover
Aug 02nd 2015
22
im aware lol
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
26
Well, the problem has suppossedly been identified but it has not been
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
23
it tells me that the economics of health care are totally fucked
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
27
You laid the blame at over-staffing and bureaucracy and the reports
vee-lover
Aug 02nd 2015
28
on misdiagnosis:
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
31
aka being humans with high-stake responsibilities
MiracleRic
Aug 03rd 2015
47
400,000+ *preventable* deaths isn't just a matter of humans in a field
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
50
Bob Marley died from skin cancer.
SoWhat
Aug 03rd 2015
53
His death WASN'T the result of practicing/using alternative medicine
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
54
nope.
SoWhat
Aug 03rd 2015
56
using "folk medicine" isn't anywhere close to being in the same
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
57
They got real doctors in China. They studied science, got MD's and shit
John Forte
Aug 03rd 2015
58
yeah because until chinese started getting MDs their traditonal
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
64
Traditional Chinese Medicine is superstition and quackery
John Forte
Aug 03rd 2015
69
To reduce traditional chinese medicine to superstition based on
vee-lover
Aug 04th 2015
72
RE: To reduce traditional chinese medicine to superstition based on
John Forte
Aug 04th 2015
76
And allopathic medicine kills PEOPLE daily to the rate of being the 3rd
CaptainRook
Aug 04th 2015
81
i brought up Bob to say that
SoWhat
Aug 03rd 2015
59
You should've FIRST read through this post before responsing to me
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
60
i was only responding to one thing you'd said, homie.
SoWhat
Aug 03rd 2015
61
yeah that had nothing to do w/my overall point...so there's that
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
63
Dr. Sebi still living
csuave03
Aug 02nd 2015
7
Yes, he IS and Thank God for that. Let's hope that they don't succeed
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
8
You really *are* the Case_One of healthcare related topics, lol
Backbone
Aug 03rd 2015
38
The comment thread is hilarious.
denny
Aug 02nd 2015
10
What's your explanation for all of these deaths of these types of health
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
11
a psycho with a crazy + violent grudge?
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
13
serial killer that blames the loss of a loved one on holistic dr's
PoppaGeorge
Aug 02nd 2015
14
Well, if said patient had tried the holistic approach 1st, said patient
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
16
lol!
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
20
"lol!", Hell!!!
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
24
They basically ARE the ultra-religious
John Forte
Aug 02nd 2015
33
No, allopathic medicine is much more like religion than holistic health
CaptainRook
Aug 02nd 2015
36
lol snopes link
cgonz00cc
Aug 02nd 2015
17
^^^
Ashy Achilles
Aug 03rd 2015
51
that story looked hella suspicious before I even saw the URL
Rjcc
Aug 03rd 2015
55
i thought chiropractors just crack your back & de-stress/fix posture
Riot
Aug 02nd 2015
34
These motherfuckers out here "treating" immunodeficiency
John Forte
Aug 03rd 2015
41
wow wow
Riot
Aug 03rd 2015
62
i hear basil makes a great bulletproof vest.
SoWhat
Aug 03rd 2015
39
This reply deserves more love
13Rose
Aug 03rd 2015
48
IDK about bulletproof vest, but basil has several health benefits that
CaptainRook
Aug 03rd 2015
65
And there's no suck thing as Eastern Medicine and Western Medicine
John Forte
Aug 03rd 2015
42
The evidence of Chinese tradition medicine is that it works and has so
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
44
no, there is zero evidence that it works
John Forte
Aug 03rd 2015
45
You have no idea what you're talking abt -. there's mountains of
vee-lover
Aug 03rd 2015
46
Is it time for the annual "I DONT TRUST DOCTORS!"*
woe.is.me.
Aug 03rd 2015
43
Yeah, better known as "The Don't be a Damned Fool and let a Doctor
CaptainRook
Aug 03rd 2015
68
Lol it pretty goes the same way every time.
Amritsar
Aug 04th 2015
74
This is earlier than normal...
tha_scientist
Aug 04th 2015
77
apparently
lfresh
Aug 04th 2015
78
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