76. "RE: To reduce traditional chinese medicine to superstition based on" In response to In response to 72
>the example of some ppl killing rhinos for their horns is >only demonstrating how little you know abt what actually >chinese medicine is...traditional chinese medicine is made up >of a variety of practices that consists of acupuncture/qi >qong/diet/massage/tai chi
qi gong is PURE superstition, and the effectiveness of acupuncture has never been proven in any rigorous study
>I don't think you realize how your attitude (misinformation) >reflects the eurocentric thinking that dismisses any system >that isn't based on western traditions or isn't >"science-based"
If it has no basis in science and it's effectiveness can not be proven and measured scientifically, it's folk treatment.
>If you understood the fact that much of chinese medicine will >ALWAYS fall out of the scope of western scientific >methods...such as herbs because it can't be explained on a >biochemical level but even western physicians in the US are >now slowly coming around to admitting the health benefits of >medicinal herbs...just like the west finally came around to >admitting that acupuncture is more than just a placebo...and >I'll say it to you again: just because doctors in the west >finally came around to admitting the benefits of acupuncture >and now is being practiced here in the west doesn't mean IT >DIDN'T WORK beforehand for thousands of years in China in >treating ppl w/blood-flow problems
What in the entire fuck are you talking about? You just described faith. It can't be proven on any level, any effectiveness is as a placebo. And, no, science has not recognized the effectiveness of acupuncture.
>Here's whats so ironic abt you reducing all of traditional >chinese medicine to superstition and quackery because it >doesn't fall under the purview of western science...but then >when you look at modern medicine (pharmaceutical drugs in >particular) which is science-based it is doing far more harm >to ppl and isn't curing ppl of anything...in fact, taking >these drugs are leaving ppl in a worse condition, sometimes >even causing addiction and even death, than before they took >the medication > >This doesn't say much for "science" at all...so what makes >this form of modern medicine any better than >superstition...because its almost as if the medical >establishment is experimenting on ppl to perfect these >pharmaceutical drugs > >Oh and what abt how our advanced modern science-based medicine >is still using animals for testing which sbould be viewed as >archaic
Well this is just fucking stupid. Why don't we just test drugs on people?
>>and they're killing endangered rhinos because they believe >>the horns, which are made of nothing but fucking keratin >make >>men more virile. >
You still haven't addressed the fact that Chinese "doctors" prescribe shit we KNOW to have zero effectiveness. Address the rhino horns.