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"Is it me, or does it feel like we've seen Peak Biggie Love?"


  

          

Tupac's stature seems to continue to rise with Time but it doesn't feel like the same is happening with Biggie.

I mean do the youngin's go crazy in the club when a biggie track comes on like the old heads do? Last party I heard a biggie set I was the youngest dude in there?


If I am not wrong it could be contributed to a couple of factors (Jay-Z's rise in that lane and New York hip-hop generally falling off in influence) but I think the one factor people won't want to admit is that Tupac had a political/social commentary component that is somewhat timeless and endures.

Pac is getting made over into the next iteration of the Panthers and people are kind of ignoring the Makaveli ride on our enemies Pac.

Biggie doesn't really have that (even though they tried to force it in the movie 'Sky is the limit...').

ionknow. Just thinking out loud.


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Is it me, or does it feel like we've seen Peak Biggie Love? [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Mar-24-15 01:39 PM
 
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Bammas on IG can't WAIT for March 9th
Mar 24th 2015
1
blame Canibus
Mar 24th 2015
3
      ^^^It's also a weird day to celebrate. Why not his birthday?
Mar 24th 2015
           YUP, I stopped celebrating 3/9 a long time ago
Mar 24th 2015
9
Big ain't have the body of work pac did nor did he saturate the market
Mar 24th 2015
2
Yep. BIG just didn't have enough material to be in a GOAT discussion, IM...
Mar 24th 2015
10
      ^^^See, this would have been unsayable 10 years ago.
Mar 24th 2015
14
           For some, it's blasphemy. I've been saying it
Mar 24th 2015
17
           RE: ^^^See, this would have been unsayable 10 years ago.
Mar 24th 2015
35
           Not to me...i said it then...and i'll say it again...
Mar 25th 2015
126
           funny enough....ive been saying it for about 10 years
Mar 26th 2015
155
the average Pac stan these days doesn't know his political side
Mar 24th 2015
4
That's how the best legends endure though. High Brow and the critics
Mar 24th 2015
6
I disagree, that's all they seem to know.
Mar 25th 2015
142
      Yep.
Mar 26th 2015
150
      mine has been the exact opposite
Mar 26th 2015
156
a thought: tupac lent himself more to deification
Mar 24th 2015
5
Agreed.
Mar 24th 2015
7
Biggie's negativity is what will hold him back in posterity
Mar 24th 2015
8
Well it's interesting that "Juicy" is one of his most enduring songs.
Mar 24th 2015
11
first off, fuck yo bitch & the click you claim...
Mar 24th 2015
12
at first I thought you were talking to me. LOL.
Mar 24th 2015
13
nah man, i wouldn't go at somebody like that online...
Mar 24th 2015
15
that has a different weight than
Mar 24th 2015
16
      this goes into something Sadat X or Lord Jamar said about both
Mar 24th 2015
19
           I always said BIG was great for parties but Pac had songs
Mar 24th 2015
21
I was gonna say Sky's the Limit but nah..
Mar 24th 2015
20
i still find it amzg how far Jay got with basically the same msg
Mar 24th 2015
26
      Jay was by far the better hustler tho
Mar 24th 2015
27
           true, but im talking just in terms of his longevity as an mc...
Mar 24th 2015
30
           Longevity? LMAO!! BIGGIE GOT KILT!
Mar 24th 2015
37
                if you read the whole convo you will see i was talkn about Jay
Mar 24th 2015
43
                     right...you're saying Jay has had longevity with the same message
Mar 24th 2015
45
           Thats cause he was ridin with Puff...Jay didnt have a Puff
Mar 24th 2015
36
                You're right. Jay had someone better: Dame.
Mar 24th 2015
39
                     basically, somebody who wasnt gon be diggin in his pockets
Mar 24th 2015
41
Weird. Because I get aa wide rang of Biggie requests all the time
Mar 24th 2015
18
where do you live?
Mar 24th 2015
23
Philly
Mar 24th 2015
33
      east coast gonna ride for Biggie all day
Mar 24th 2015
38
      makes sense...
Mar 24th 2015
47
      LOL. Yeah, huge difference from the South and the West Coast.
Mar 26th 2015
152
I was gonna say
Mar 24th 2015
96
      Right!?!?
Mar 24th 2015
98
           These dudes... be at parties with dudes... listening to Pac
Mar 25th 2015
124
                I never would say Pac was a bigger artist in the club, but it's close.
Mar 26th 2015
153
i think the issue is Biggie didn't have as much unreleased material as P...
Mar 24th 2015
22
I sort of sensed that awhile ago, too, and I attribute it to there NOT
Mar 24th 2015
24
Pac sure acted like he needed it.
Mar 24th 2015
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RE: That's just who that guy was I think - I think that's another way
Mar 24th 2015
55
      nah, he used that beef to help push records...
Mar 24th 2015
93
Biggie was the Joe Frazier to Tupac's Ali
Mar 24th 2015
40
Blame Jay
Mar 24th 2015
25
Biggie's legacy lies in his technique. Pac's in his varied messages.
Mar 24th 2015
29
Pac was an icon.
Mar 24th 2015
31
Yeah.
Mar 24th 2015
49
Basically, Pac was living/breathing performance art turned martyr
Mar 24th 2015
51
Raping babies, no ifs ands or maybes
Mar 24th 2015
32
Pac shot 2 police in the ass for beating a guy. And lived.
Mar 24th 2015
34
...one of 'em just for snoring too loud
Mar 24th 2015
42
      haha
Mar 26th 2015
149
I mean we 50 posts in and only one person is disputing this. Times have
Mar 24th 2015
44
It's the lack of material
Mar 24th 2015
46
      even Ready To Die doesn't hold up well.
Mar 24th 2015
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           RE: It really doesn't
Mar 24th 2015
56
           regardless it still trumps any album Pac ever made fairly easily
Mar 24th 2015
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           That's your opinion - I prefer 'Makaveli' over both Biggie cds and
Mar 24th 2015
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                east coast or west coast?
Mar 24th 2015
67
                we were talking about Ready To Die there but Pacastanis eyes get glassy
Mar 24th 2015
89
           Wait...really!?
Mar 24th 2015
62
Tupac's benefitted from death mythology than Biggie, that much is true
Mar 24th 2015
50
Skilswise, no question Big wins. but skills is only a component in the
Mar 24th 2015
52
      in literally every facet of rap,Big wins,Pac wins all the ancillary shit
Mar 24th 2015
59
           Pac had a wide range of topics
Mar 24th 2015
69
                ^And not even close - I would much rather listen to Pac's catalog than
Mar 24th 2015
71
                ok, you are definitely a Pac superfan, lol...
Mar 24th 2015
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                There's not one thing you can dispute that I said...has nothing to do
Mar 24th 2015
85
                     Its just your opinion bruh...
Mar 24th 2015
100
                RE: ^And not even close - I would much rather listen to Pac's catalog th...
Mar 24th 2015
87
                     RE: ^And not even close - I would much rather listen to Pac's catalog th...
Mar 25th 2015
138
                          I'm just gonna spotlight the things I found funniest
Mar 25th 2015
139
                               RE: And those 'things' you chose to spotlight are from other artists
Mar 25th 2015
141
                                    That reply looks loud, long & wrong but keep ya head up I aint mad atcha
Mar 25th 2015
145
                RE: Pac had a wide range of topics
Mar 24th 2015
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                     RE: Pac had a wide range of topics
Mar 25th 2015
115
                          RE: Pac had a wide range of topics
Mar 25th 2015
134
                               Yooooooo.....
Mar 26th 2015
158
I haven't heard a Pac set at a party since he died. I'm on the East Coas...
Mar 24th 2015
53
Pac doesn't have party songs b/c he was never in the shiny suit gang
Mar 24th 2015
60
'Brenda's Got A Baby' 'I Get A Round' 'Shed So Many Tears'
Mar 24th 2015
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      No one plays Brenda Got a Baby in the club or on the radio
Mar 24th 2015
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           Clubs? I have no Idea simply because I don't go to clubs like that
Mar 24th 2015
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                lol dude was specifically talking about parties/clubs tho
Mar 24th 2015
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                     Nah he said radio too
Mar 24th 2015
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                          I'm not talking about internet radio... I mean POPULAR radio
Mar 24th 2015
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                               RE: Neither am I - I already said I said they play his music a lot on
Mar 24th 2015
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there is more substance to pac
Mar 24th 2015
54
which would be the deciding factor if we're actually talking about music
Mar 24th 2015
57
      And Tupac's music resonated with far more ppl than Biggie's music
Mar 24th 2015
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           yep.
Mar 24th 2015
66
           Elvis resonates with more people than Dylan, Stevie & Marvin combined
Mar 24th 2015
88
                no he doesn't.
Mar 24th 2015
90
                statistically factoring both US & overseas, sorry he does, sweetheart
Mar 24th 2015
91
                     lol
Mar 24th 2015
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                     you're wrong.
Mar 24th 2015
95
                          nah... I think he is right. 500K visit his home every year
Mar 24th 2015
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                               he said he resonates with more ppl that bob dylan, stevie wonder
Mar 24th 2015
102
                                    DO YOUR GOOGLES(c)Fredro Starr
Mar 24th 2015
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                                    I agree, it sounds dumb... but sadly its prolly true
Mar 25th 2015
110
                It seems you want the post to about something it isn't about.
Mar 27th 2015
160
Me against the world turned 20 this month
Mar 24th 2015
64
RE: Me against the world turned 20 this month
Mar 24th 2015
73
True, but LA is the center of rap music right now... any fanfare or reco...
Mar 24th 2015
77
Why posting like 96? West coast bias? Are you serious?
Mar 25th 2015
116
      RE: Why posting like 96? West coast bias? Are you serious?
Mar 25th 2015
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RE: track for track, I'm going w/Makeveli...side B of 'Me Against
Mar 24th 2015
74
B side had some joints too
Mar 25th 2015
122
man, I think people are playing up the love for Pac in 2015.
Mar 24th 2015
75
RE: man you can go on YouTube and type in untold 'Tupac stories'
Mar 24th 2015
78
The Biggie movie was good as shit. It needed to be made because he was m...
Mar 24th 2015
80
      It was better than I thought it would be...but that might have more to
Mar 24th 2015
83
           its ok to admit you liked the movie, Pacs ghost wont haunt you
Mar 24th 2015
94
yeah the rising part was odd to me too
Mar 25th 2015
117
HHDX had a pretty decent write up on it
Mar 24th 2015
82
      good read. Thanks fam did okp know matw turned 20?
Mar 25th 2015
118
It's the acting work
Mar 24th 2015
97
He killed it in Juice...
Mar 24th 2015
101
I'm on the Westcoast...still hear a lot of Biggie joints...
Mar 24th 2015
104
I don't know any young people who bump Pac...like at all.
Mar 25th 2015
105
Would you play any Big songs for your daughter?
Mar 25th 2015
106
nope... but wtf does that have to do with anything?
Mar 25th 2015
112
What does that have to do with anything?
Mar 25th 2015
123
also, Pac is for cookouts, Big is for parties.....
Mar 25th 2015
107
Fck kinda angry ass beefing parties y'all be at doe???
Mar 25th 2015
108
I Get Around is the only one.
Mar 25th 2015
109
All About U too, the other two aren't party jams
Mar 25th 2015
113
      However You Want It
Mar 25th 2015
121
Those ain't played in the club no more, gramps.
Mar 25th 2015
114
lol...i'm so outta touch.
Mar 25th 2015
133
      It;'s OK bruh..
Mar 25th 2015
136
Man I would lose my mind if Thug Passion came on in a club
Mar 25th 2015
119
How come no one is mentioning California Love as a party joint?!??
Mar 25th 2015
131
I hated Dre on that song for some reason....
Mar 25th 2015
132
because that shit ain't party music
Mar 25th 2015
137
      It's not TWERK music, but it's the same energy as some of Biggie's
Mar 26th 2015
154
LOL @ Thug Passion's inclusion on this list.
Mar 25th 2015
140
      Thug Passion is the quintessential drunk&allyoucandoisbop song....
Mar 25th 2015
144
           Always thought it was trash personally but also never heard it in a club
Mar 25th 2015
146
Pac doing movies helped cement his celeb legacy a ton.
Mar 25th 2015
111
I think The Notorious BIG movie did a great job elevating
Mar 25th 2015
120
      Agreed
Mar 25th 2015
125
           They make it sound like Pac is still on the rise...lol
Mar 25th 2015
127
                Pac has definitely not peaked.
Mar 25th 2015
128
                he peaked dude.. deal with it.
Mar 25th 2015
135
                you maybe on to something
Mar 25th 2015
130
this came up cuz of 'Mortal Man', huh?
Mar 25th 2015
129
I think so much of the Pac nostalgia is corny as hell, though
Mar 25th 2015
147
I forgot all about the broadway play.
Mar 26th 2015
148
agreed
Mar 26th 2015
151
RE: I think so much of the Pac nostalgia is corny as hell, though
Mar 26th 2015
157
2Pac = Interesting, Passionate, Cared about his community & Black
Mar 27th 2015
159

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