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6. "rewind the clock to a time before "
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Tue Sep-15-20 06:57 PM by double negative

  

          

I guess...when I think about it all it kind of only makes sense to go back to a pre industrialized world to contextualize capitalism

* there was a time when we did not control the land, the land controlled us. we ate what we hunted and we found/foraged for edible vegetation

* then we learned how to control the land and make it produce goods consistently. consistent or semi consistent good production creates stability.

* then we traded goods among each other - but then it may have become difficult at points to find agreeable universal trade terms. enter gold, currency, some universal representation of value to be exchanged for goods

* more stability, less self reliance, more outward sourcing for goods. Farming instead went from an individual essential function needed for survival to a society with specialization

etc.

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so then,

Time = Base Unit = Money

Money = Stored Value (that is to say, unlike goods that that can rot or depreciate, money is value in essence)

&

Goods = Stored Value / Stored Value = Goods
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*society is stabilized - the elements are not trying to fucking kill you at every turn. Man has controlled his world. The value of things can be expressed and exchanged between people. RIGHT?

*some history stuff happens. we got kings and shit and then....

at the barber shop David and Adam are chilling waiting to get edged up.
Giovanni Girolamo Kapsperger's new fire ass lute music is playing.

Adam: aight, fuck this king shit my nig. what if instead of me giving you some coin for this corn and you giving some of that coin to the king, we say fuck that. what if we could all be kings?

David: I'm heated. King own my land, my home, everything. What if we could own our own property? I'm like...I'm like barely making it dude.

Adam: Look look, I got this idea right? It's just you selling that corn right? I'm thinking, I got my cousin and his friends, we grow more corn than you

David: Adam...

Adam: I got the seed nigga on deck. I'm thinking I get my peoples to grow more corn, and since we'll have more corn, we can sell that shit by the boatload at a cheaper price.

David: Right but, your cousin and his people...after all that work we're still gonna be making the same amount of mo..

Adam: HOW MUCH IT COST TO GET CORN FROM THE GROUND DUDE?

David: Wha...

Adam: HOW. MUCH. IT. COS..

David: I don't know! I don't know!

Adam: Exactly, and they don't know either. Like I said, 👏🏾straight 👏🏾cash 👏🏾homie. I'm about to be the crispiest corn selling dude on the strip.





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How do you teach children about capitalism? [View all] , imcvspl, Tue Sep-15-20 02:05 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
How old are they? What do you want to get across?
Sep 15th 2020
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Objectively?
Sep 15th 2020
3
      This touches everything - so talk about something you know
Sep 16th 2020
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What do you want to teach them? to succeed in it or why it is bad?
Sep 15th 2020
2
By discussing the limits and blind spots of capitalism
Sep 15th 2020
4
Introduce the Degrowth Movement and Concepts
Sep 15th 2020
5
I don't understand this question. Is this something that's difficult??
Sep 16th 2020
7
That's not capitalism.
Sep 16th 2020
8
who said anything about working hard? I didn't. all that other stuff = n...
Sep 16th 2020
10
      They are trying to raise some future Portland protestors
Sep 16th 2020
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      Do you spend a lot of time around students?
Sep 16th 2020
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           I don’t spend any time around students right now
Sep 16th 2020
25
                Yeah, I zero'd in on children...because that's 10 years and under to me....
Sep 16th 2020
29
      daddy whats capitalism? "shh go to bed dear. daddy's watching football"
Sep 16th 2020
21
Your description isn’t dark enough
Sep 16th 2020
11
^^^^ pretty simple really
Sep 16th 2020
12
notice you have no real perspective on things.
Sep 16th 2020
18
      RE: notice you have no real perspective on things.
Sep 16th 2020
27
           This is a message board, where we discuss things. I believe in you.
Sep 16th 2020
28
You're not describing capitalism
Sep 16th 2020
16
Oxford
Sep 16th 2020
30
short answer: no, that is not the gist
Sep 16th 2020
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      This part has more legs than you let on
Sep 16th 2020
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      Right on.
Sep 16th 2020
24
      money. makes. the. world. go. around.
Sep 16th 2020
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           i hear you.
Sep 16th 2020
33
Some good suggestions already.
Sep 16th 2020
9
You said you failed a few times.. what’s failure?
Sep 16th 2020
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Re: Failure
Sep 16th 2020
34
Identity plays a big role in someones understanding of capitalism
Sep 16th 2020
19
play Monopoly, do kids still play board games?
Sep 16th 2020
23
You could try this activity
Sep 16th 2020
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Slavery, drug, colonization, greedy Europeans
Sep 16th 2020
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