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16. "how do you figure?"
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i've met a lot of people with the same response to eggers/mcsweeneys, but i'm curious... how do you figure that they're getting by on mere cleverness? or, for that matter, that *any* of them are smirking backstage?

i've met eggers on two occasions now... the second time, the turnout was rather small, and i actually got to chat with him for a few minutes. if there's on impression i get from eggers, it's that he's absolutely sincere about everything he's doing.

i think... we're at at time in all artistic mediums where everyone is convinced no one will ever do anything new, and that we will have no legends. and i think eggers (and the mcsweeneys crew) have sort of taken that sentiment and almost played on it, turning it around as a big "fuck you" to the critics.

Let me see if I can explain... I'll be the first to admit that Eggers book is far from classic... it has tons of flaws. But his approach is authentic - I read an interview, I think it was poets & writers, and he said that when he set out to write the book, one of his main goals was to "defy linearity"... i remember this phrase very clearly... he wanted the narrative to come "squeaking" out of unexpected places...

Ultimately, he had to sacrifice... he saw that it wouldn't work entirely, he had to give in. But he didn't give in all the way.

I'm rambling... see... I think the great thing about eggers and his crew is this... they're making "serious" art (whatever that means) without taking themselves too seriously. That same interview found Eggers talking about calculative writing versus intuitive writing, and he ultimately said they were more often than not the same thing.

And I think that's the key to eggers and folk... the majority of stuff they've written, or a lot of it, it's tongue in cheek, almost silly at times, but it's that way for a reason... and it has yet to water down the quality.

I didn't enjoy much of the McSweeneys crew until I saw a few of them read with Eggers... when you get your hands around the personalities of this circle, the rest of the literature suddenly falls into place. Ultimately, they're saying, "we don't want to be legends... we just want to fucking write."

And in that respect, I think they *have* and *will* become legends.

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Everything is Illuminated [View all] , janey, Wed Jun-26-02 08:20 AM
 
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RE: Everything is Illuminated
Jun 26th 2002
1
RE: Everything is Illuminated
Jun 26th 2002
2
No thanks
Jun 26th 2002
3
fair enough
Jun 26th 2002
5
      On Roth
Jun 26th 2002
7
           yes but
Jun 26th 2002
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           RE: yes but
Jun 26th 2002
10
                Contemporary fiction
Jun 26th 2002
11
                query:
Jun 26th 2002
12
                     RE: query:
Jun 26th 2002
13
                         
                               RE: how do you figure?
Jun 27th 2002
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                                    for "true"...
Jun 27th 2002
21
                                         re: eggers & contemporary authors
Jun 30th 2002
26
                                              just bought "a heartbreaking work..."
Jul 01st 2002
32
                                                   Eggers and Co.
Jul 02nd 2002
37
                                                        RE: Eggers and Co.
Jul 02nd 2002
38
                                                             Interesting
Jul 02nd 2002
39
                                                                  RE: Interesting
Jul 02nd 2002
40
                                                                       eh?
Jul 02nd 2002
41
                                                                            RE: eh?
Jul 02nd 2002
44
           correction
Jun 27th 2002
15
I will get deeply into this tomorrow
Jun 26th 2002
4
yes.
Jun 26th 2002
6
Sasha's commentaries
Jun 26th 2002
9
Fuck
Jun 26th 2002
14
Ok, I haven't gotten the call so let me see
Jun 27th 2002
18
a fan's notes
Jun 27th 2002
19
A FAN'S NOTES....
Jun 27th 2002
20
      I'll give it a whirl
Jun 27th 2002
22
           RE: I'll give it a whirl
Jun 27th 2002
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                erk
Jun 28th 2002
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                     RE: erk
Jun 30th 2002
27
                          I'm halfway through
Jul 01st 2002
29
                               RE: I'm halfway through
Jul 01st 2002
30
                                    Have you read
Jul 01st 2002
31
Here's what I think my issue is
Jul 01st 2002
33
Donde esta Mally
Jun 28th 2002
25
i replied, Pete
Jul 01st 2002
28
      I missed that shit
Jul 01st 2002
34
           what I think
Jul 01st 2002
35
haven't read it.
Jul 01st 2002
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RE: haven't read it.
Jul 02nd 2002
42
      sorry,
Jul 02nd 2002
43
           RE: sorry,
Jul 02nd 2002
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