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suave_bro
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36. "RE: Of course you do :-)"
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>Many of the "activists" and civil rights folks from the 70s
>did quite well in the 80s, including Cosby and Jackson. The
>former has a successful career that spans a few decades.
>Last month, I was chatting briefly with an actor who was in
>a popular TV show in the 70s and 80s. This guy was white
>and told me that most folks that were doing well in TV land
>were also in la-la land as far as what was happening in the
>streets.

-well i didnt know you were formulating your argument around black ACTORS. i thought u were talking about just everyday black folks...with that said, i dont think there was a large population of black folks in the 70's who just got their money and ran...if u have proof of this id like to see it.

>>if im not mistaken this was
>>the era of the projects, crack cocaine, and welfare...
>
>Crack was in the 80s. Projects and welfare but I was in the
>projects in the 70s and it was quite different back then.

-crack cocaine was introduced into our communities in the mid to late 70's. true enough during the 80's it exploded but to pretend there was NO drugs to suit your argument? cmon now. and yes the welfare system was not different back then it was WORSE!


>>so if
>>you could elaborate on these invisible black millionaires
>>that came out of the 70's, id appreciate it.
>
>Millionaires? Read my message, again.

-surely blacks in the 70's didnt just up and leave the community as thousandaires. if so, that makes your argument sound less true to begin with.


>>secondly, what
>>was the point of the civil rights movement? to just march
>>and protest and preach forever? at what point do black folks
>>enjoy the fruits of their labor?
>
>Equality and justice for all.

-well you just proved my point. for a black man to be doing what im doing with little to no hassle at all from "da man", was almost unheard of during the civil rights movement.


>>my father still remembers
>>"colored only" signs growing up
>
>Both my parents experienced Jim Crow in the south.
>Actually, it was my father who taught me what he thought I
>needed to know about activists in the 70s and 80s. I took
>it with a grain of salt but I remember he was none too happy
>about it.

-well i didnt mean for you to give us (yet another) chapter from your overexaggerated life story. I was simply using somebody who lived in my own house as an example how how rediculous your argument of "they failed us" was...in fact, do you tell your father to his face that he failed his community?


>>- are you forgetting the congressional black caucus? the
>>NAACP? julian bond? jesse jackson? al sharpton? the nation
>>of islam? I could go on and on naming the folks who
>>critisized "the system" but guess what, THOSE FOLKS ARE
>>RICH!!
>
>This only supports what I stated.

- not necessarily. you were arguing that "mr cosby" should focus his attention on the system but why should he? look at all those millionaires who get fat pay checks from democrats for critisizing the "system"...bill cosby is already rich so his motives are a little more genuine in that aspect...


>What's the cost of living and how many single parent incomes
>fit into your equation?

- cost of living is irrelevant. if a white 2 parent home is making 46K living in new york they wont be living THAT much better than the black one earning 41K a year...single parent homes dont fit in2 the equation at all. but that is how we do it, we will look at a 2 parent white family and say "daze rich", all the while we screw like jack rabbits and make baby after baby after baby and wont even be MARRIED. its a wise economic decision to have a duel income household. but that is another topic altogether....


>>-I disagree again. what country are u living in!? hip hop
>>was also thugged out and mysoginistic (NWA)

>Public Enemy came before NWA.

-really? i thought they both released their fist albums in 1987!? and no i didnt need a history of hip hop from you. seriously.

  

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Cosby [View all] , rogue_scholar, Thu Jul-01-04 03:43 PM
 
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I'm with Cosby on some things
Jul 01st 2004
1
yeah i agree
Jul 02nd 2004
9
      and to add to that
Jul 02nd 2004
10
      This is my issue
Jul 02nd 2004
16
      RE: This is my issue
Jul 02nd 2004
54
      RE: and to add to that
Jul 30th 2004
157
      Hold on.
Jul 02nd 2004
27
           im sorry i just cant believe that
Jul 02nd 2004
35
                RE: im sorry i just cant believe that
Jul 02nd 2004
46
                     the goals have not been accomplished
Jul 07th 2004
103
As the ivyleaguenegro..........
Jul 01st 2004
2
oh this is going right in my sig...
Jul 01st 2004
3
jesse
Jul 02nd 2004
11
Cosby was 100% on point...
Jul 01st 2004
4
RE: Cosby was 100% on point...
Jul 02nd 2004
12
      RE: Cosby was 100% on point...
Jul 02nd 2004
13
      RE: Cosby was 100% on point...
ATLsSoulSista
Jul 09th 2004
138
CLOUT WITH OPPORTUNITY............
Jul 01st 2004
5
this is a lot better crafted than his last one
Jul 01st 2004
6
on my blog:
Jul 02nd 2004
7
The first one at Morehouse was the best. n/m
Jul 02nd 2004
8
I have to wonder about white folks
Jul 02nd 2004
14
RE: I have to wonder about white folks
Jul 02nd 2004
41
      yeah. pretty much.
Jul 02nd 2004
53
      the "white news" as you call it
Jul 07th 2004
105
      white girl here
Jul 21st 2004
147
Put his solution where his mouth is?
Jul 02nd 2004
15
CORRUPTION................
Jul 02nd 2004
19
I forgot to add HIV/AIDS
Jul 02nd 2004
20
      dont even get on AIDS
Jul 02nd 2004
23
           RE: dont even get on AIDS
Jul 02nd 2004
33
i disagree infinity percent
Jul 02nd 2004
22
      RE: i disagree infinity percent
Jul 02nd 2004
25
      WORD
Jul 02nd 2004
30
      Of course you do :-)
Jul 02nd 2004
29
     
           Ha!
Jul 02nd 2004
38
           RE: Of course you do :-)
Jul 28th 2004
149
      70'S
Jul 02nd 2004
45
      HOLY SHIT!!!
Jul 02nd 2004
55
      RE: HOLY SHIT!!!
Jul 02nd 2004
58
           *scratching head*
Jul 02nd 2004
63
                uhm... that was intended for suave_bro. sorry.
Jul 02nd 2004
68
      CO-SIGN WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE MUSIC
Jul 09th 2004
140
hes comments are kinda funny
Jul 02nd 2004
17
Hip Hop
Jul 02nd 2004
18
Art is just a reflection
Jul 02nd 2004
21
Exactly
Jul 02nd 2004
24
Just look at the recording industry
Jul 02nd 2004
32
      See #31 n/m
Jul 02nd 2004
34
           please your #31 didnt answer shit
Jul 02nd 2004
37
           Please
Jul 02nd 2004
39
           You just laid out a decade of American history
Jul 02nd 2004
40
                Not American history
Jul 02nd 2004
42
                Hip Hop history is a segment in American history
Jul 02nd 2004
47
                     RE: Hip Hop history is a segment in American history
Jul 02nd 2004
80
                          Oh really
Jul 03rd 2004
89
                               I'm here for the dialogue
Jul 03rd 2004
91
                Trust me, Nettrice.
Jul 02nd 2004
43
RE: Hip Hop
Jul 02nd 2004
28
      Repeat: Hip-Hop Timeline
Jul 02nd 2004
31
      It's funny how you get pissed for no reason....
Jul 02nd 2004
44
           RE: It's funny how you get pissed for no reason....
Jul 02nd 2004
48
                I'm gonna stay calm
Jul 02nd 2004
49
                     One more thing...
Jul 02nd 2004
50
                          I think that the point Suave is making is that....
Jul 02nd 2004
52
                               RE: I think that the point Suave is making is that....
Jul 02nd 2004
56
                                    I read your posts...
Jul 02nd 2004
59
                                         This debate...
Jul 02nd 2004
60
                                              this is what pisses me off...
Jul 02nd 2004
64
                                                   I agree with this
Jul 02nd 2004
66
                                                   I completely agree
Jul 07th 2004
104
                                                        cant blame the industry
Jul 07th 2004
107
7-8 YEAR OLDS
Jul 02nd 2004
26
RE: Cosby
Jul 02nd 2004
51
All the noise generated by his comments
Jul 02nd 2004
57
If you're not with Bill then you're part of the problem
Jul 02nd 2004
61
Bill Cosby Still Bitching
Jul 02nd 2004
62
Why don't you and your negro friend build a school
Jul 02nd 2004
65
RESPONSE
Jul 02nd 2004
69
      Back At you X. As you avoid my question..
Jul 02nd 2004
82
why are u even still alive?
Jul 02nd 2004
67
blame the liberals/democrats
Jul 02nd 2004
70
      calm your fake bobby seale ass down.
Jul 02nd 2004
71
           Bizarro world Argument!!!
Jul 02nd 2004
72
           WHAT SOLUTION
Jul 02nd 2004
73
           this nigga
Jul 02nd 2004
75
                Cosign!
Jul 02nd 2004
84
                2 funny
Jul 02nd 2004
87
           SPEAKING OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Jul 02nd 2004
88
completely agree
Jul 07th 2004
106
no humility no solutions
Jul 02nd 2004
74
yall have GOT to shut the fuck up
Jul 02nd 2004
76
ok and what about the humility
Jul 02nd 2004
77
sugar coat it!?
Jul 02nd 2004
86
      RE: sugar coat it!?
Jul 03rd 2004
90
           u cant be serious with this bullshit...
Jul 03rd 2004
93
                dead serious
Jul 04th 2004
95
                RE: dead serious
Jul 04th 2004
97
                RE: u cant be serious with this bullshit...
Jul 04th 2004
98
suave bro...
Jul 02nd 2004
79
      your 5 dollar insults dont mean shit
Jul 02nd 2004
85
      I feel you
Jul 04th 2004
96
are you a slave or what?
Jul 07th 2004
112
RE: Cosby
the_therapist
Jul 02nd 2004
78
I agree with Bill 100%
Femi_Omojigijigiosetuatobalehinibode
Jul 02nd 2004
81
so do i.
Jul 03rd 2004
92
but when I hear about Cosby..
Jul 02nd 2004
83
What have McWhorter & Sowell done for Blacks?
Jul 05th 2004
99
      Whoa...
Jul 05th 2004
100
      no he doesn't.
Jul 07th 2004
110
           Umm...
Jul 07th 2004
111
           The Idealogue of Latter day conservative thought......
Jul 07th 2004
117
           You've got to be joking me.
Jul 08th 2004
124
                Modern - Day - Ideologue
Jul 08th 2004
128
                     but you're assuming...
Jul 09th 2004
132
                          Weak - At Best
Jul 09th 2004
135
                               ha.
Jul 10th 2004
143
                                    RE: ha.
Jul 10th 2004
144
           RE: Umm...
Jul 08th 2004
123
                You're missing my point...
Jul 08th 2004
125
                     No I didn't.
Jul 09th 2004
131
                          Oh brother....
Jul 09th 2004
139
                               Well said...
Jul 28th 2004
152
           Actually Expertise..........
Jul 07th 2004
115
                once again...
Jul 08th 2004
122
                     Please
Jul 08th 2004
129
                          RE: Please
Jul 09th 2004
133
                               *shakes head*
Jul 09th 2004
136
      What have you done?
Jul 07th 2004
109
           Please/Read My Sig File
Jul 07th 2004
116
                I didn't duck anything.
Jul 07th 2004
121
                     *Searches in Vain for a Cogent Statement*
Jul 08th 2004
127
                          You're not talking about context.
Jul 09th 2004
134
                               Weaker than before......
Jul 09th 2004
137
FUTURE IMPACT..............
Jul 03rd 2004
94
Cosbys needs to eat a puddin pop and shut the fuck up
Jul 05th 2004
101
RE: Cosby
JahBrown
Jul 06th 2004
102
the one thing I noticed about Bill's comments is
Jul 07th 2004
108
Well....
Jul 07th 2004
113
      RE: Well....
Jul 07th 2004
114
      RE: Well....
Jul 07th 2004
118
           RE: Well....
Jul 07th 2004
119
                Hey...
Jul 07th 2004
120
                     likewise my man
Jul 08th 2004
130
      great post, some comments
Jul 09th 2004
141
           Hello...
Jul 10th 2004
142
                point by point
Jul 11th 2004
146
                     Ummm
Jul 28th 2004
150
                          Some thoughts
Jul 29th 2004
153
                               RE: Some thoughts
Jul 29th 2004
154
                                    RE: Some thoughts
Jul 30th 2004
155
                                         RE: Some thoughts
Jul 30th 2004
156
                                              I certainly agree
Jul 30th 2004
158
                                                   RE: I certainly agree
Jul 30th 2004
159
                                                        You've dun it
Jul 31st 2004
160
RE: Cosby
Jul 08th 2004
126
RE: Cosby
Jul 10th 2004
145
Bill should
Jul 28th 2004
148
And I co-sign that..
Jul 28th 2004
151

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