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BarTek
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59. "RE: zuh?"
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>>>God has no conception of something s/he is the equal
>opposite force to
>
>how could God define what s/he is without knowing what s/he
>isn't? if you are what you aren't, you know what it is you're
>not.

Right. God knows he is not Evil. Yet, he cannot defeat evil, because there is no trace of Evil within God. How can God fight something he does not comprehend? Wouldn't you need to know your enemy, in order to defeat it? What better tool than human beings, to discover evil, and how it operates, etc.


i'm not a female, i don't have breasts, but i know what
>it is to be female.

You don't know what it is to be female. You only have ideas, which, you were exposed to in a social world. A female will never understand what it is to be a man, and a man will not understand what it is a female, simply because, neither is two at once. Or, one for a bit, and then the other.

why would God not know what it is to be
>evil (assuming of course that the definition of God is that he
>is good). and as mentioned, you assume that duality is the
>basis of power.

god cannot not know what it is to be evil, because he is in theory, the exact opposite. does a positive charge know, what it's like to be a negative charge? also, i don't think duality is the basis of power. i think the experience of duality, is the basis of knowledge, experience, and action, if taken. i am trying to say, that human beings are special, and that we cannot rely on God to defeat evil, but must rely on ourselves, and our own gifts, that were given to us, by "god", all in theory ofcourse. in those gifts, we can either believe in god or not (free will). and so, here is where the power comes in, we are more powerful than god, because we can either believe or not, enter hell (metaphor) or not, experiment with evil, and use it, or not. we have choice, so, in a sense we are a special tool, as we are aware of our own existence, and our abilities, and we can choose where we stand. and to build on this, jesus was human. why would god send a HUMAN son to suffer? was jesus, a tool? most people would say yes. why would god need a tool? if god is all powerful, why does he need a HUMAN tool? a man, to come and experience evil, and then die?

peace.

~
This is the life I chose, or rather the life that chose me
If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is whack
Maybe you'll love me when I fade to black
If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is whack
Maybe you'll love me when I f

  

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are human beings more powerful than god? [View all] , BarTek, Mon Mar-14-05 11:44 PM
 
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ummm....Let's assume what you're saying is true.
Mar 14th 2005
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RE: ummm....Let's assume what you're saying is true.
Mar 15th 2005
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      Interesting
Mar 15th 2005
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      RE: Interesting
Mar 18th 2005
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           RE: Interesting
Mar 18th 2005
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                RE: Interesting
Mar 20th 2005
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      RE: ummm....Let's assume what you're saying is true.
Mar 18th 2005
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Dude, you just blew my mind!
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: lol
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: lol
Mar 15th 2005
5
hmmm...i never thought about that...
Mar 15th 2005
11
RE: Dude, you just blew my mind!
Mar 15th 2005
25
might be an atheist perspective....
Mar 15th 2005
7
cosign
Mar 15th 2005
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yeah same here
Mar 17th 2005
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well said!
Mar 15th 2005
35
Predict my response..........
Mar 15th 2005
8
great response
Mar 15th 2005
17
Jesus was tempted by the devil, so the capacity
Mar 15th 2005
9
RE: Jesus was human...
Mar 16th 2005
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      We Christians believe Jesus is God
Mar 16th 2005
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           Uh oh...
Mar 17th 2005
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                Next time you bump into these folks ask them to interpret these
Mar 17th 2005
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                     RE: Next time you bump into these folks ask them to interpret these
Mar 17th 2005
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                          There isn't a distinction between Jesus and God in those verses
Mar 17th 2005
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                               RE: There isn't a distinction between Jesus and God in those verses
Mar 17th 2005
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                                    Again, you've only established a relationship between two
Mar 18th 2005
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                                         But this isn't what your post is about
Mar 18th 2005
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Why does God have to be good?
Mar 15th 2005
10
Humans invented God
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: Humans invented God
Mar 15th 2005
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lol...
Mar 15th 2005
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hrm?
Mar 15th 2005
13
I hear you, but...until a Human can
Mar 15th 2005
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they do it millions of times a year, it's call sex.......
Mar 15th 2005
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      really...on what Planet can I find you and that conduct?
Mar 15th 2005
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           yes, this is what you are missing.....
Mar 15th 2005
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           oh yey...got 1500 posts to show I REALLY missed that...
Mar 16th 2005
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           Earth.
Mar 17th 2005
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                I would call that modifying/maintaining a productive nature...
Mar 18th 2005
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Heck no *Edit*
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: Heck no *Edit*
Mar 15th 2005
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      RE: Heck no *Edit*
Mar 15th 2005
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           RE: Heck no *Edit*
Mar 16th 2005
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                RE: Heck no *Edit*
Mar 16th 2005
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come on now
Mar 15th 2005
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no, we are not.
Mar 15th 2005
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What the hell are you talking about?
Mar 15th 2005
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the fundemental flaw...
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: the fundemental flaw...
Mar 16th 2005
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      RE: the fundemental flaw...
Mar 16th 2005
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           RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 16th 2005
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                RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                     RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                          zuh?
Mar 17th 2005
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                               fine
Mar 17th 2005
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                                    RE: fine
Mar 17th 2005
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                                         God knows evil, for God created evil.
Mar 18th 2005
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                          RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                               RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                                    RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                                         RE: ironically, i think..
Mar 17th 2005
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                                              RE: ironically, i think..
Mar 18th 2005
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depends on how you qualify 'god'
Mar 15th 2005
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human beings can become more powerful than god
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 15th 2005
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that was just out right plain ignorant
Mar 15th 2005
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why,exactly?
Mar 17th 2005
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      RE: yes, i'd like to know too...
Mar 17th 2005
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           because we are mankind and he is Allah
Mar 17th 2005
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                Ameen.
Mar 17th 2005
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                that aint proof, that's islamic rhetoric....
Mar 19th 2005
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                     It's the TRUTH.
Mar 21st 2005
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                          It's NOT the TRUTH... it's YOUR opinion...
Mar 21st 2005
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                               It's the revelation of Allah. Period!
Mar 21st 2005
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                                    the point is that quotes from religious doctrine aren't proof of anythin...
Mar 21st 2005
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                                         yet you still make no point
Mar 21st 2005
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                                              i dont like 2 argue with religious ppl
Mar 22nd 2005
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                                                   I don't care for arguing either
Mar 22nd 2005
93
Powerful enough to CREATE God
Mar 15th 2005
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where did this come from
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: where did this come from
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 16th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 16th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 18th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 18th 2005
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do u realize you rendered ur opinion null and void.
Mar 19th 2005
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      RE: was that to me? i'd like to respond..peace.
Mar 20th 2005
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           no....i pretty much mirror ur views
Mar 20th 2005
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                RE: cool, cuz..
Mar 21st 2005
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god cant be evil?
Mar 20th 2005
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RE: god cant be evil?
Mar 20th 2005
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      RE: god cant be evil?
Mar 22nd 2005
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