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Shimmy
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Its difficult to critically look at the message of an artist.As a musician, painter, dancer etc, can you express a politically conscious message in a artistic manner?
We expect politicians and activists to choose their words carefully, to ensure their message is conveyed as accurately as possible.Should we expect the same from a poet?

For instance--is their art to be considered a reflection of their reality, versus a statement of their position?Is the effect meant to promote discussion, expose an issue, or merely to piss people off?

This was always an arguement around punk rock lyrics in the 80's.I remember all the attempts to decipher Dead Kennedy lyrics--probably one of the most political bands ever--but their lyrics taken out of the "punk rock" context were shocking(to say the least!!!)

I've always felt, as a consumer of underground music, that I was intelligent enough to take what I needed from a song. I also think I am strong enough in my positions to not be manipulated by an artist's opinion.

Mos Def is a current example of this for me...I absolutly love Black on Both sides.He makes some pretty contentious statements which I disagree with. Not enough of an issue for me not see and appreciate the art behind the message. Plus, I respect his right to hold those opinions.And, I also appreciate the fact he has enough passion to write about these ideas.

I think the world is richer because these artists are talking about what is real...rather than some formulatic crap generated strictly to make money.

Shimmy

“Your body is not a temple, it’s an amusement park. Enjoy the ride.” Anthony Bourdain

  

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Bullshit Dead Prez statement [View all] , JUSTICE, Thu Oct-26-00 07:09 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Jello Biafra
Oct 26th 2000
2
one other thing
Oct 26th 2000
3
RE: one other thing
Oct 26th 2000
6
RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Nice1
Oct 26th 2000
9
LIES
KoalaLove
Oct 26th 2000
12
      RE: LIES
Nice1
Oct 26th 2000
31
RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Nice1
Oct 26th 2000
10
RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Oct 26th 2000
4
fucking asshole JUSTICE,
Young_Isa
Oct 26th 2000
5
RE: fucking asshole JUSTICE,
Nice1
Oct 26th 2000
7
More LIES
KoalaLove
Oct 26th 2000
13
      One mooooore thing...
KoalaLove
Oct 26th 2000
14
      Thank you truely Koala
Oct 26th 2000
28
ISA thanks for the respect
Oct 26th 2000
27
      yo Jus,
Young_Isa
Oct 27th 2000
48
RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Nice1
Oct 26th 2000
8
RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Oct 26th 2000
29
      RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Nice1
Oct 26th 2000
32
           RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Oct 26th 2000
33
                class/race
Oct 26th 2000
35
                RE: Bullshit Dead Prez statement
Nice1
Oct 27th 2000
39
                Question??? for Justice
Oct 27th 2000
43
                     RE: Question??? for Justice
Oct 27th 2000
45
                          Agreed
Oct 27th 2000
53
Thats not what they said
KoalaLove
Oct 26th 2000
11
RE: Thats not what they said
Oct 26th 2000
15
?
Oct 26th 2000
16
      So they shall not be forgotten.
KoalaLove
Oct 26th 2000
17
      All That to Say?
Oct 26th 2000
19
      RE: All That to Say?
KoalaLove
Oct 26th 2000
22
      RE: So they shall not be forgotten.
Oct 26th 2000
20
      RE: am i for or against the military?
Oct 26th 2000
18
           Apologies
Oct 26th 2000
21
           RE: Apologies
Oct 26th 2000
25
           RE: am i for or against the military?
Oct 26th 2000
23
                RE: pitbulls
Oct 26th 2000
24
                     RE: pitbulls
Oct 26th 2000
26
                          RE: pitbulls
Oct 27th 2000
42
                               RE: pitbulls
Oct 27th 2000
44
                                    RE: pitbulls
Oct 27th 2000
49
                                         RE: pitbulls
Oct 27th 2000
54
RE: Thats not what they said
Oct 26th 2000
30
dead Wrong...
Oct 26th 2000
34
to be american is to be revolutionary
lorok1
Oct 26th 2000
36
are you serious???????
Oct 27th 2000
37
RE: to be american is to be revolutionary
Nice1
Oct 27th 2000
40
i don't really expect anyone to see it the way i do, but...
lorok1
Oct 30th 2000
68
American Revolutionary?
Oct 27th 2000
41
2pac..
AfricanHerbsman
Oct 27th 2000
38
Find it Interesting
Oct 27th 2000
46
Thank You
Oct 27th 2000
47
      But see here is the problem
Oct 27th 2000
50
      But see here is the problem
Oct 27th 2000
51
      But see here is the problem
Oct 27th 2000
52
           peep
Oct 27th 2000
55
                Thank GOD!!
KoalaLove
Oct 27th 2000
56
                this may be another post
Oct 27th 2000
57
                     Naw you're my boy
KoalaLove
Oct 27th 2000
58
                     One moooooore thing
KoalaLove
Oct 27th 2000
59
                          I would love
Oct 27th 2000
60
                          AWWW
Oct 27th 2000
61
                     RE: this may be another post
Fletch
Oct 28th 2000
65
                in society
Oct 27th 2000
62
                in society
Oct 27th 2000
63
                     RE: in society
Fletch
Oct 28th 2000
64
You misquoted the lyric
Oct 28th 2000
66
I was corrected
Oct 28th 2000
67

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