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13. "Token Vs. House Negro"
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I don't think that being a Token is necessarily a bad thing. I also think that there is a difference between being a token and a House negro. A house negro does anything that can prove him/herself to white folk while also trying garner their acceptance. A token negro is someone who white folk has chosen as someone who for whatever reason they want to keep around. Most often the tokens ARE house negroes but not necessarily.

For instance I don't think that Denzel Washington is a House negro although he is definitely a token. One thing I can say about the majority of his roles is that he usually doesn't take shit from anyone. Although they still portray the Westernized African, this is acceptable considering that many are Africans ARE Westernized anyway. The thing that is redeemable about his role is that he portrays independence, strength, resourcefulness amidst a white world and he usually comes out on top. These are characteristics that can be rarely attributed to Black characters in mainstream hollywood movies. Also it must be noted that these same roles are indeed characters who were MEANT to be Black. In some movies, Black characters are only black by skin and could have easily been played by others.

Considering the deplorable conditions of Africans on screen I believe that actors and actresses should make themselves of the functions and images that the characters they choose have. It is no mystery that Cuba Gooding Jr. is a damn coon. Geez, to think he debut role was "Boyz 'n the Hood" is amazing. Not that this role was great but at least he wasn't a damn coon.

I have always like Morgan Freeman but I realize his is the token of token negroes but at least he got skills and plays in decent roles. His role in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" will always hold a soft spot in my heart though the movie was garbage. He played a Moor who made the English look pitiful, dirty, stupid and uncivilized. One could see that this was only permitted to occur on a movie whose premise was based on a fictional story even though historically MOORS were culturally superior to Europeans and ushered them out of the Dark Ages.

Morgan's wish to protect his tokenness made itself fully evident
when he was on the Chris Rock Show. He made a comment about not liking the South for some reason and Chris Rock joked that he really wanted to say "Those damn crackas!" Everyone laughed but Morgan Freeman. Freeman had this scared look on his face like "I hope they (massa) don't think I meant that!" Also Chris commented that Morgan must have respect for being able to play the president of the United States on Deep Impact. Chris was like damn only Morgan would be allowed to play president. Morgan was like he didn't think anything of it and that it was "just a role." A black president is just a role?? That sounds like some house negro "We are the world" bullshit to me. Morgan Freeman is a coon. (He's still a good ass actor though)

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Hollywood's token Negroe shortlist [View all] , StirsDsoul, Tue Jan-09-01 03:48 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
What a prick
Jan 09th 2001
1
Did it ever occur to you that...
Jan 10th 2001
2
Cuba Gooding Jr.
utamaroho
Jan 10th 2001
3
      I know you're just joking, but...
Jan 10th 2001
5
      blacks aren't more homophobic
Jan 11th 2001
26
      finish your script
angieee
Jan 11th 2001
27
           ..
Jan 11th 2001
35
      You get "Two Thumbs Up!" for that one.
Jan 10th 2001
9
the magical negro
Wise_7
Jan 10th 2001
4
a solution
utamaroho
Jan 10th 2001
6
      RE: a solution
Jan 10th 2001
7
      Denzel W. started out
Wise_7
Jan 10th 2001
8
           blackhood?!?
utamaroho
Jan 10th 2001
12
           Booooooo!
Jan 10th 2001
14
           I'm not mad,
Wise_7
Jan 10th 2001
16
           RE: Booooooo!
Jan 11th 2001
37
           blackwood
angieee
Jan 11th 2001
28
                RE: blackwood
Jan 11th 2001
32
                     Black is diverse
angieee
Jan 11th 2001
34
                          RE: Black is diverse
utamaroho
Jan 11th 2001
40
      RE: a solution
Jan 10th 2001
11
not vanessa
Jan 10th 2001
10
I wouldn't call him a coon, but
Wise_7
Jan 10th 2001
15
obviously hit a sore spot
Jan 10th 2001
17
wow.
Jan 10th 2001
18
      RE: wow.
Jan 10th 2001
24
RE: Token Vs. House Negro
Jan 10th 2001
19
      Is your eye Red from crying?
Jan 10th 2001
20
           RE: Is your eye Red from crying?
utamaroho
Jan 10th 2001
21
           Can you imagine...
Jan 10th 2001
22
                RE: Can you imagine...
utamaroho
Jan 10th 2001
23
           How's this for crying?
Jan 10th 2001
25
                sustained!
angieee
Jan 11th 2001
29
                you response reminds me...
Jan 11th 2001
36
                     RE: you response reminds me...
angieee
Jan 11th 2001
38
                          ..
Jan 11th 2001
39
                RE: How's this for crying?
Phraktal
Jan 11th 2001
30
                RE: How's this for crying?
utamaroho
Jan 11th 2001
31
so basically.....
Jan 11th 2001
33
RE: so basically.....
Phraktal
Jan 11th 2001
41

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