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Soroban

Mon Mar-26-01 07:54 PM

  
98. "RE: Oversights"
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>>Most primates (in the wild) live
>>off a diet of primarily
>>plants and some insects. Very
>>few (I can't think of
>>any) live on a diet
>>of raw meat. So you
>>statement about humans in the
>>wild makes no sense.
>
>I didn't mean that they were
>carnivores. I meant that a
>small (sometimes very small) portion
>of most primates' diets consist
>of meat. Chimps have been
>known to eat squirels &
>rats, same with Baboons. Gorillas
>even eat other primates! -
>mostly smaller monkeys. While meat
>in no way makes up
>a large portion of their
>diet, most primates do consume
>some meat.

Primates diets DO NOT consist of meat. Meat eating is rarely, if ever, done among primates in their natural environment. Primates in captivity eat whatever their captors provide for them.

Primates that have vegetation within reach will pick a banana over chasing down a squirrel or a rat. If he happens to be in an environment that is unnatural for him, (i.e., no fruit or other plant life available), he may be forced into meat eating (an unnatural choice for him to adjust to his unnatural environment, in those cases).

In cases of Gorilla's eating other primates, I'm aware that this does happen. From my understanding, it's more of an "Alpha-male" thing killing off the offspring in his family that he believes he didn't sire. I've seen documentaries where the "Alpha-male" gorilla will snatch up a baby gorilla, kill the baby gorilla and then eat him!!

From my understanding, this is done more often to EMPHATICALLY DECLARE his leadership of the clan and somehow, in gorilla culture, the very existence of this baby gorilla that he believes he didn't sire, represents a threat and/or disrespect to his leadership and authority. His eating of the other primate(s) is not done to fulfill a nutritional void nor can it be considered a part of his natural food selection process. Eating of other primates involves other issues for gorillas.


>>What is Italian eating like?
>
>Well first off, it lowers the
>risk of heart problems, cancer
>& other diseases dramatically. It's
>what's commonly called a Mediterranean
>diet. High on grains &
>vegetables, low on meat. Fish
>& other seafood make up
>a good portion of the
>diet as well as pasta.
>You might go days without
>eating any meat and when
>you do it's usually a
>little chicken mixed in with
>the pasta.
>
>>"Necessary" is relative to the one's
>>desired goals at living.
>
>True enough, which is why I'm
>not a vegetarian. All of
>my grandparents have survived to
>an old age, and are
>in amazing condition (one grandpappy's
>still goes to the YMCA
>three days a week at
>84!) eating a Mediterranean diet
>or following a Kosher diet
>with some fasting.
>
Well, the majority of the above doesn't surprise me too much in regard to Italian eating. Italian dishes usually involve a lot of garlic, right? Garlic can neutralize many a bad eating habits (meat eating included).

My great grandmother (may she rest in peace) used to cook alot of hog. I mean the crazy parts of the pig, snout, tails, feet, neck, you name it, she probably cooked/ate it. She lived to be almost 80 and never suffered from high-blood pressure or high-cholestrol. That's because she used to cook almost everything with madd garlic in it, always. Even the crazy pork dishes that she'd whip up on the regular were laced with plenty of garlic.

She did suffer from alzheimers/senility in her last days, but that's beside the point.

Garlic is powerful, and it ALWAYS helps to have it as a part of your diet.



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Thoughts on Vegetarians or Carnivores? [View all] , Slap, Thu Mar-22-01 06:15 AM
 
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resent?
Mar 22nd 2001
1
yeah, you heard me... ; )
Mar 22nd 2001
4
      ok then
Mar 22nd 2001
6
           RE: ok then
Mar 22nd 2001
7
           ?
Mar 22nd 2001
8
           RE: ?
Mar 22nd 2001
10
                i'll buy those
Mar 22nd 2001
11
                RE: ?
Yusuf
Mar 22nd 2001
29
           Actually
JMello
Mar 22nd 2001
16
                and...
Mar 22nd 2001
25
                RE: Actually
Mar 22nd 2001
27
           Certain Cultures
JMello
Mar 22nd 2001
18
                RE: Certain Cultures
Mar 22nd 2001
19
                     LOL
JMello
Mar 22nd 2001
20
*shrug*
Mar 22nd 2001
2
RE: *shrug*
Mar 22nd 2001
3
      hopefully
Mar 22nd 2001
26
it's trendy
Mar 22nd 2001
5
RE: it's trendy
Mar 22nd 2001
12
RE: it's trendy
Mar 22nd 2001
13
      RE: it's trendy
Mar 22nd 2001
14
           whatever
Mar 22nd 2001
22
           RE: whatever
Mar 22nd 2001
24
           nope, it's different
Mar 22nd 2001
41
RE: it's trendy
Russell
Mar 22nd 2001
28
but....
Mar 22nd 2001
42
Austin, Tx
Mar 26th 2001
92
HEALTH
Mar 22nd 2001
38
      True.
Mar 22nd 2001
39
           Let's...
Mar 25th 2001
81
Strictly Omnivore.
Mar 22nd 2001
9
RE: Strictly Omnivore.
masani
Mar 22nd 2001
15
From the mouths of doctors...
Mar 22nd 2001
17
lmao@this one:
Mar 22nd 2001
23
Former Vegetarian
Yusuf
Mar 22nd 2001
21
RE: Former Vegetarian
liberation
Mar 22nd 2001
30
      RE: Former Vegetarian
Yusuf
Mar 22nd 2001
31
           RE: Former Vegetarian
liberation
Mar 22nd 2001
32
                RE: Former Vegetarian
Yusuf
Mar 22nd 2001
34
                RE: Former Vegetarian
liberation
Mar 22nd 2001
50
                Do......
Mar 22nd 2001
40
MYOB
Mar 22nd 2001
33
RE: Thoughts on Vegetarians or Carnivores?
iguana187
Mar 22nd 2001
35
RE: 5 words.......
Mar 22nd 2001
36
Do Better
Mar 22nd 2001
37
It was'nt me!
Slurmz Mckenzie
Mar 22nd 2001
48
      RE: It was'nt me!
Mar 23rd 2001
54
Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Soroban
Mar 22nd 2001
43
Point of correction
Soroban
Mar 22nd 2001
44
Old Argument
Yusuf
Mar 22nd 2001
45
RE: Old Argument
Soroban
Mar 22nd 2001
47
      RE: Old Argument
Yusuf
Mar 23rd 2001
53
           RE: Old Argument
makedax
Mar 23rd 2001
65
           RE: Old Argument
Soroban
Mar 23rd 2001
66
                RE: Old Argument
Yusuf
Mar 24th 2001
67
                     RE: Old Argument
Soroban
Mar 24th 2001
77
                          Seriously
Mar 25th 2001
79
                               Will Power
JMello
Mar 26th 2001
95
RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Mar 22nd 2001
46
      RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Soroban
Mar 22nd 2001
49
           RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
mahi
Mar 22nd 2001
51
                RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Mar 23rd 2001
55
                     RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Yusuf
Mar 23rd 2001
56
                     RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Mar 23rd 2001
57
                          RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Yusuf
Mar 23rd 2001
58
                               RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Mar 23rd 2001
60
                                    RE: Humans are not physiologically designed for meat eating
Yusuf
Mar 23rd 2001
62
                     I really think you are missing the point...
SacredEarth
Mar 23rd 2001
59
                          RE: I really think you are missing the point...
Mar 23rd 2001
61
                               RE: I really think you are missing the point...
Mar 25th 2001
82
                                    Lacked Variety
Mar 26th 2001
83
RE: Thoughts on Vegetarians or Carnivores?
mahi
Mar 22nd 2001
52
RE: Thoughts on Vegetarians or Carnivores?
iguana187
Mar 23rd 2001
63
Think about what you eat:
Mar 23rd 2001
64
Fruits and Veggies too
Yusuf
Mar 24th 2001
68
Nope
JMello
Mar 24th 2001
71
RE: Nope
Mar 26th 2001
87
      Insight
JMello
Mar 26th 2001
94
           Right:
Mar 27th 2001
103
RE: Think about what you eat:
Mar 24th 2001
72
RE: Thoughts on Vegetarians or Carnivores?
Mar 24th 2001
69
Primates = Omnivores
Marinera
Mar 24th 2001
70
RE: Primates = Omnivores
Mar 24th 2001
73
Oversights
Mar 24th 2001
74
      RE: Oversights
Mar 24th 2001
75
      RE: Oversights
Soroban
Mar 24th 2001
76
           What
Mar 26th 2001
85
                RE: What
Soroban
Mar 26th 2001
97
                     OK
Mar 27th 2001
102
      RE: Oversights
Marinera
Mar 25th 2001
80
          
Revolutionaries
Revenge4Diallo
Mar 25th 2001
78
RE: Revolutionaries
Mar 26th 2001
90
RE: Revolutionaries
Mar 27th 2001
104
I have a question
Mar 26th 2001
84
RE: I have a question
Mar 26th 2001
89
Omnivores kick ass!
Mar 26th 2001
86
My thought..
Mar 26th 2001
88
Afrikan Vegetarians
Mar 26th 2001
93
RE: My thought..
Soroban
Mar 26th 2001
99
      RE: My thought..
Mar 27th 2001
101
its like this...
blessnm
Mar 26th 2001
91
meateaters r dum
Mar 26th 2001
96
Defending Vegetarianism
Mar 26th 2001
100

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