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ya Setshego
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the additional article "Tell It Like it Is", and Ellis Cose's LiveChat discussion on MSNBC. The questions that you raise were addressed therein.

For example, a Brothah wrote into Cose a similar assessment: the article was disturbing, but true.

How is it disturbing? Because we are 5 times as likely as a white woman to be unmarried if we are educated? Because the Brothahs are lagging behind in education? I guess since I am enmeshed in the reality, I am not getting the disturbing part. Particularly for it to be disturbing to Brothahs. If the situation is so disturbing to them, it seems that the ones who DO make it against the tremendous odds that are stacked against them, would choose to stay within their communities in terms of marriage, and I am just not seeing that. The first stats I read on interracial dating/marriage were in Ebony, maybe 15-20 years ago. Two to three times as many Brothahs were marrying white as Sistahs. I think today's statistics are similar, even though the numbers for both sides are rising. "I" think that is a problem. I don't fault the Sistahs though, because what can I say to, "What do you expect me to do? NOT be with a man, just because a Brothah does not want me?" I mean, it is just painful for me to hear that from girlfriends, co-workers, neighbors. One of my best friends is CLEAR on the fact that she wants to marry a white man. She tells me that she has experienced and witnessed close-hand the abuse Brothahs inflict in relationships. She's a soap-opera junkie, so she believes those make-believe images of so-called gorgeous, sensitive, marriage-minded white men is REAL, which contrasts what we have BOTH seen from Brothahs in real life. Now I can argue w/ her that white men are not really like those soap operas, and movies like the Wedding Singer portray them to be, or certainly not all of them. Hell, if you read Cosmo, you'll hear the same complaints about white men from white women, that we have about Brothahs. But what can I tell her about Brothahs? Of course I don't want to give up on them, but at the same time, it is not like we as Sistahs don't have our own issues and challenges that need to be addressed. We cannot spend our time focussed on what they are or are not doing, because we need to be focussed on correcting ourselves in our own areas of weakness. I know we should support them, but I guess I'm asking, how far should we take that? I would be VERY interested to see what Strezzed would have to write about that.

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SISTAHS CONFERENCE [View all] , ya Setshego, Thu Feb-27-03 01:10 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
I have not read this one yet
Feb 27th 2003
1
This one too.
Feb 27th 2003
2
RE: This one too.
Feb 27th 2003
3
      Greetings.
Feb 27th 2003
4
      EDUCATION
Feb 28th 2003
32
           I can dig it
Feb 28th 2003
37
      RE: This one too.
Feb 28th 2003
46
the newsweek article
Feb 27th 2003
7
      could it be that
Feb 27th 2003
8
      I vote
Feb 28th 2003
12
      I definitely feel a sense of entitlement
Feb 28th 2003
15
      Hey
Feb 28th 2003
16
           black man will probably be president first
Feb 28th 2003
19
     
      Sista's PLEASE READ!!!!
Feb 28th 2003
39
           A local
Feb 28th 2003
40
registers into conference....
Feb 27th 2003
5
signs up for conference...
Feb 27th 2003
6
Hmmmmm...
Feb 28th 2003
13
Hold up
Feb 28th 2003
9
Yes,
Feb 28th 2003
14
      gotcha
Feb 28th 2003
20
RE: SISTAHS CONFERENCE
Feb 28th 2003
10
so i finally read the article.
Feb 28th 2003
17
I'm witchu on THAT.
Feb 28th 2003
21
Let's create a singles line for ex-offenders!! Grrrreat
Feb 28th 2003
22
Damn good points and questions
Feb 28th 2003
28
      RE: Damn good points and questions
Mar 01st 2003
47
           RE: Damn good points and questions
Mar 01st 2003
49
                Speak(write) the TRUTH!
Mar 02nd 2003
59
great topic :)
Feb 28th 2003
18
Topic # 2: Hair
Feb 28th 2003
23
RE: SISTAHS CONFERENCE
Feb 28th 2003
24
shuddup
Feb 28th 2003
29
      RE
Feb 28th 2003
31
           Let us have a review
Feb 28th 2003
34
                why repeat yourself??
Feb 28th 2003
41
                     I really
Feb 28th 2003
42
my long response
Feb 28th 2003
25
No
Feb 28th 2003
33
so...
Feb 28th 2003
35
      No WAY
Feb 28th 2003
36
RE: my long response
Mar 01st 2003
48
TOPIC: The Black Mother/Daughter vs. Son Relationship
Feb 28th 2003
26
What is that?
Feb 28th 2003
27
      One of the best films I ever saw:
Feb 28th 2003
30
           I don't know
Feb 28th 2003
38
had to dig up my girl June Jordan
Feb 28th 2003
43
thanks for that post!!
Feb 28th 2003
44
Thanks for posting this.
Feb 28th 2003
45
Personal Freedom
Mar 01st 2003
50
readin your words always inspires me
Mar 01st 2003
51
Another Negative Perception
Mar 01st 2003
52
RE: Another Negative Perception
Mar 01st 2003
53
RE: Another Negative Perception
Mar 01st 2003
54
Yes
Mar 02nd 2003
55
      'tis my motto
Mar 02nd 2003
56
      I feel you on that.
Mar 02nd 2003
60
Question:
Mar 02nd 2003
57
RE: Queen Afua
Mar 02nd 2003
61
Idea
Mar 02nd 2003
58
Carole Mosely Braun
Mar 02nd 2003
62
RE: SISTAHS Panel on NPR Last Night
Mar 03rd 2003
63
RE: SISTAHS CONFERENCE
Mar 04th 2003
64
up!
Mar 05th 2003
65

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