>but coming from that standpoint...that YOU >know you're going to do >what feels good to YOU >regardless of the consequences, can >you see the flip side >of that? avoiding things that >may be bad for you >for the long term benefit >to your body/mind?
Yeah, I can see it. The way I'm living now is a reaction to my former lifestyle, which was totally focused on the long-term.
>for example, I didn't try to >stop eating (red) meat. it >was a kind of natural >progression. I wouldn't berate anyone >for doing it; I just >needed to do what my >body asked me to. and >I saw the benefits.
I totally understand that. I've done it myself.
>but I still ignore my body >at times. i did it >today. it's not easy to >shed the world we live >in and try to reeducate >ourselves. but it is possible. >we can redefine pleasure, health, >etc...
Yes, we can.
My question for the Laila-ers is, how is pleasure defined in the text?
>utamaroho can come off as judgemental, >but maybe try to take >some of the info he >cites with a grain of >salt and see the value >in it beyond his judgement.
Don't tell him (or pissy-Sol), but I see the value in it. I mean, the value is obvious.