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116. "RE: please tell me"
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>dog,please...
>
>come with some uptempo shit, with a bassline o.k. ?

thought@work was 110 bpms
the seed was 115 bpms

i've done uptempo shit before.

and what does speed have to do with a good effective song?

the fastest song on the top 100 is 100bpms ("tell me when to go") the rest are sitting somewhere between 80-90 bpms.

im not saying "im following the marketplace" but if your answer is "we would like this if you just went faster like the other faster things out" then i would have to bring up the point that most of the shit out today that is "success" is waaaaaaaaay under this son bpm wise.

I talked to a straight hip-hop dummy who summed the Roots up
>perfectly, and I quote:
>
>"These guys stuff is all mid-tempo, it's not soft, but it's
>more like wallpaper,nothing ever jumps out, the beats are
>COOL, the rhymes are COOL...but it's usually pretty flat"


i did the "jump out" record called phrenology. again just because you got fast bpms does that mean i can just discount the other elements that make a song a success?



>I feel that that dummy spoke for once with some serious
>insight.
>He's right.
>Y'all play it a little too safe (BPM/Dynamic wise).
>You get a lil' crazy and it's like Scooby ate too many pot
>brownies (Water)


well...again. the fact that i am a root within itself is the risk. this is the tom hanks/allen iverson in his 9th year reaction. hanks is a master and after phila/big/gump/road to/ryan/toy/seattle/cast away---i mean after awhile a critic said that hanks is so good in his work that to praise him becomes cliched.

now i aint saying everything i touch turns to gold. but you also can't say that this song ranks with the filler from the Ghetto Superstar album either. and compared to the shit you dealing with now? i find it really some curious shit that im getting picked on over this.



>Now I'm really not trying to crack, cuz you posed the
>question.
>
>I remember when Late Registration came out, my first reaction
>to "Crack Music" was I would love it if "the Roots" sounded
>like this (as a band...in a room with a mic) on a track.
>
>This joint sounds like you and Kamal collaborated two
>individual pieces into a beat. Where's Hub? Where's Knuckles?,
>Where's Capt. Kirk?


so the idea of the roots fulfilling your fantasy is better than the idea of the roots making a good song?

the roots ain't made no striped down hip hop since "clones"--i mean need i make a list of "Stripped Down" hip hop? if you a "head" then you questioning why i made a stripped down jawn confuses me. that's like me asking the bomb squad circa 87 why "dont believe the hype" was slower than "rebel"/"noize" and with half the samples. i mean it aint the end of the world if mofos sit one out right? this is just a piano/drum song.

something we NEVER done before.



>If it's gonna be like that...just let Thought shine over the
>Dilla beat. That has a bassline, a dope beat, and is UPTEMPO.
>
>and I'm not trying to rake you over the coals,player.
>
>It seems you're trying to please more than one master.


no...i'm only trying to please myself.
you bring that subject up again like we aint never used a "bassline", or the drums aint knocking (if these drums dont knock to you i question the system you listening on.
and ive done shit at high speed, and ive done shit at slow speed.


>If you gotta do radio...blow radio away. This track ain't
>gonna blow radio away. This is gone Ghostface and not even be
>on the radar by the time the album drops.



what the hell yall smoking? this sounds like the "radio" attempt cause we got a girl singing the hook? the reason why SHE singing it cause if i sing it the windows will shatter! lol....oh god yall got this SO WRONG....

i am a DJ
this is 2006.

if you gonna go radio--you need to follow in the marketplace. this hip hop im tryna keep alive for yall mofos is all but DEAD in the eyes of radio.

this does NOT sound like the cousin of "the whisper song" or remotely remind you of it!!!!!
is "lean with it ,rock with it" the song you thought we were doing?
what about that chamillionare joint "ridin" that what you thought we thought we was doin?
or "oh i think they like me"? that gotta be it
or "snap your fingers"?
or that din da da ying yang song?

matter of fact...lets go to billboard:

ti-what you know
chamillionare-ridin
yung joc-its goin down
dem franchise boyz-lean with it, rock with it
bubba sparks-ms new booty
lil jon-snap your fingers
field mob-so what
50 cent-best friend


what song was we tryna approximate? the whole top 100 looks like this list. oh please don't pat yourself on the back for this one.



>I ain't saying you gotta go club single, but y'all do too many
>tracks for the "bitches" (that's that mid-tempo shit
>again)...I consider it the "Apple Martini Movement".


wow. a protest song about the state of the world executed in a way that is light years away from what anybody is doing today and you just dismiss this as us having drunk bitches in mind.


>If y'all niggas ain't got nothing that sounds like a BAND
>freaking the "jungle boogie" sample on some Bomb Squad/Dilla
>ish with Thought ripping it...then fuck it...you gonna be
>grumblin' about Gnarls Barkley eating your dinner and Andre
>and Big Boi wearing your shoes this time next year.



>I wish you'd hear me though.


eh...ok. i asked for the "argument"

and this is it?


yall really dont know what niggas is up against do you?

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

  

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first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox [View all] , INKtheZionCrewRep, Wed May-17-06 04:27 AM
 
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RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
1
good lookin
May 16th 2006
2
RE: good lookin
May 16th 2006
3
i was thinking the saaame thing
May 16th 2006
4
i thought the album was coming out aug. 29th
May 16th 2006
5
      *double-checks ?uestlove's MySpace countdown*
May 16th 2006
6
this would be about right then.
May 16th 2006
14
somethin about this track dont feel right
May 16th 2006
7
(puts gloves on)
May 16th 2006
55
      sorry, lemme clarify.
May 16th 2006
68
           then if that is the case
May 16th 2006
77
                lol let it alone
May 17th 2006
112
                     RE: lol let it alone
May 17th 2006
117
*sigh* this kinda killed my hopes for the album (yes I'm hating again)
May 16th 2006
8
RE: *sigh* this kinda killed my hopes for the album (yes I'm hating agai...
May 16th 2006
9
so you want us coon?
May 16th 2006
56
      RE: so you want us coon?
May 16th 2006
59
      dude u just gave the wackest reponse ever. ..just stop
May 16th 2006
65
           .
May 16th 2006
67
      ^^^TALIB KWELI PLEASE TAKE NOTE
May 16th 2006
62
      LOL yall leave kwe alone!
May 16th 2006
84
           i promise i'm not coming at him sideways, but
May 16th 2006
93
      Feels fine to me!
May 16th 2006
102
      may i ask who u are?
May 17th 2006
105
           RE: may i ask who u are?
May 17th 2006
109
                i-ight nice to meet you. never seen u before. checked out the
May 17th 2006
133
                     RE: i-ight nice to meet you. never seen u before. checked out the
May 17th 2006
139
      who said anything about cooning?
May 17th 2006
134
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
10
can anyone get an mp3 link?
May 16th 2006
11
im gonna to rip it in the morning
May 16th 2006
12
why are you ripping it if you hate it?
May 17th 2006
114
      lol, i dont *hate* it, anyhow its because i have the know-how and
May 17th 2006
135
here ya go mp3 link:
May 16th 2006
13
      RE: here ya go mp3 link:
May 16th 2006
20
Good catch
May 16th 2006
15
i was just going through the Jukebox tryna find some new music
May 16th 2006
16
      RE: i was just going through the Jukebox tryna find some new music
May 16th 2006
17
it's tight
May 16th 2006
18
Love it
May 16th 2006
19
Meh
May 16th 2006
21
      RE: Meh
May 16th 2006
23
      cliched rap song? did you listen to what he was saying
May 16th 2006
27
      ugh ie "you want tricks"
May 16th 2006
72
You send it link..
May 16th 2006
22
RE: You send it link..
May 16th 2006
24
me too please!
May 16th 2006
25
inbox?
May 16th 2006
34
inbox,
May 16th 2006
37
RE: You send it link..
May 16th 2006
40
inbox please
May 16th 2006
64
me too...i'm feeling this...a LOT
May 16th 2006
73
Inbox please.
May 16th 2006
76
Not a Banger. Not impressed at all! that chick gets on my nerves
May 16th 2006
26
word?
May 16th 2006
48
it feels right
May 16th 2006
28
I vote Tic-Tac-Toe for the next single cover
May 16th 2006
29
I have goose bumps......
May 16th 2006
31
wow. just got the cover.
May 16th 2006
49
RE: I vote Tic-Tac-Toe for the next single cover
May 16th 2006
54
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
30
I liked it...
May 16th 2006
32
Not feeling it at all
May 16th 2006
33
RE: Not feeling it at all
May 16th 2006
35
please tell me
May 16th 2006
81
      RE: please tell me
May 16th 2006
86
      RE: please tell me
May 16th 2006
88
      I hate to be this brutally honest with myself...
May 16th 2006
96
     
      Defensive
May 17th 2006
121
           Wow u sure are bitchin' a lot..
May 17th 2006
124
           Dickrider's are like goats
May 17th 2006
129
                Naah dude..
May 19th 2006
149
                     "VROOM VROOM" what does that mean?
May 19th 2006
150
                          ^^^Im not even responding to this bullshit!
May 19th 2006
151
           i got to admit
May 17th 2006
125
      RE: please tell me
May 19th 2006
152
      i hope you read The Lesson post too
May 17th 2006
108
      well since dude was responding to my little post in this thread
May 17th 2006
123
RE: Not feeling it at all
May 16th 2006
39
Saiiiight
May 16th 2006
36
people that like it >>> people that dont like it
May 16th 2006
38
OR
May 16th 2006
41
you don't like that Kast? that shit bangs
May 16th 2006
46
no way in heck! both singles are dope
May 16th 2006
85
RE: people that like it >>> people that dont like it
May 16th 2006
42
maybe it will grow on me, but i just don't like it
May 16th 2006
45
After hours of listening to this song on repeat....I Likes Alot
May 16th 2006
43
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
44
hopefully pretty soon
May 16th 2006
50
yep
May 16th 2006
47
The Lesson is feeling this more than OkayArtist
May 16th 2006
51
The Lesson is feeling this more than OkayArtist
May 16th 2006
52
DAYUM! man, i'm likin this alot. i must admit....
May 16th 2006
53
i luuugh the drums
May 16th 2006
57
damn...samples....those drums sound tight
May 16th 2006
58
For me, this is like "break you off"
May 16th 2006
60
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
61
i like this
May 16th 2006
63
The title is awfully ironic.
May 16th 2006
66
i'm indifferent right now.
May 16th 2006
69
i'm liking it. all EXCEPT the part where
May 16th 2006
70
Songs cool
May 16th 2006
71
Ohio Players
May 16th 2006
75
This is very promising!
May 16th 2006
74
RE: This is very promising!
May 16th 2006
80
haters be gone
May 16th 2006
79
?uest is right....I want TRICKS!!!!
May 16th 2006
82
i hope i never get like that!
May 16th 2006
87
It is absolutely because they're the Roots
May 16th 2006
89
well
May 17th 2006
118
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
83
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
90
Thank you posting this
May 16th 2006
91
LINK TO THE MP3 am i allowed to post this?
May 16th 2006
92
you're welcome you 92 bitches
May 16th 2006
100
      Well I'm Bitch 93... and thank you
May 17th 2006
137
      Well I'm Bitch 93... and thank you
May 17th 2006
138
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
94
this shit really really grows on you
May 16th 2006
95
before you judge this song
May 16th 2006
97
well, my computer sounds alot more of a car system
May 17th 2006
136
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 16th 2006
98
tough crowd
May 17th 2006
104
FUCK....i'm a little late, but this shit is
May 16th 2006
99
some of yall....
May 16th 2006
101
how can you fuckers complain about this?
May 16th 2006
103
for real at least play this with some real speakers if you are streaming
May 17th 2006
106
"yall n*ggas want the real get at me dog"(c)DMX
May 17th 2006
107
i think they're 're-using' tracks because the creative direction...
May 17th 2006
143
My Beef: Current live version
May 17th 2006
110
Sounds a lot like the hidden track off Phren
May 17th 2006
111
The Lesson likes this song a lot more than Artist
May 17th 2006
113
Good Job Roots
May 17th 2006
115
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 17th 2006
119
on first listen
May 17th 2006
120
The Drums are hot
May 17th 2006
122
Great song!!! Loving it!!!
May 17th 2006
126
Definatly a great track....
May 17th 2006
127
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 17th 2006
128
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 17th 2006
130
It's a grower
May 17th 2006
131
hold up..that negro said "filler from the ghetto superstar album". i'm t...
May 17th 2006
132
The Drums are hot.
May 17th 2006
140
No bass?
May 17th 2006
141
Yo this is good fucking song props
May 17th 2006
142
full single (link)
May 18th 2006
144
BANGIN'!
May 18th 2006
145
this song has a very full sound
May 18th 2006
146
RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
May 19th 2006
147
what this song REALLY NEEDS
May 19th 2006
148

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