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44238, first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Wed May-17-06 04:27 AM
how'd they get the exclusive before Okayplayer? lol

anyway, its called "Don't Feel Right" (featuring Maimouna Yousef) and you can check it here:
http://www.giantstep.net/releases/1032

sounds pretty dope to me
its not what i had expected from the first single, i guess they ditched the "Don't Say Nuthin" method?

definitely feeling the switch-up in the 3rd verse


Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44239, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by mshearer87, Tue May-16-06 12:03 AM
Whoa. Not what I was expecting, either.

Great song! That ish is catchy as hell. Thought spitting fire, the beat is great.

Impressive.
44240, good lookin
Posted by HighVoltage, Tue May-16-06 12:11 AM
either single is droppin REAL soon or Questo is havin a fit, lol
44241, RE: good lookin
Posted by mrshow, Tue May-16-06 12:12 AM
Probably better than anything from the Tipping Point. Im now psyched for Game Theory.
44242, i was thinking the saaame thing
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 12:13 AM
>either single is droppin REAL soon or Questo is havin a fit,
>lol

the page i linked says the single's coming out August 29th tho
so im thinking maybe its the second one??

but i dont think Giant Step would leak it if they werent supposed to, so who knows...

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44243, i thought the album was coming out aug. 29th
Posted by HighVoltage, Tue May-16-06 12:16 AM
not just the single.
44244, *double-checks ?uestlove's MySpace countdown*
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 12:22 AM
word, you're right.

this must be coming out soon then.

this sounds more like the pre-(aka "buzz")single than the "first" one tho
but i could be wrong

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44245, this would be about right then.
Posted by Menphyel7, Tue May-16-06 02:23 AM
here is the promo art for the single.

http://media.giantstep.net//assets/releases/detail/1032.jpg

44246, somethin about this track dont feel right
Posted by Evol, Tue May-16-06 12:41 AM
its the samples.
44247, (puts gloves on)
Posted by 15, Tue May-16-06 04:14 PM
who want what?

i put sample stabs in there i kill your dreams?

you gonna lose this argument.

id listen to all roots albums before you come back with some lame retort.
44248, sorry, lemme clarify.
Posted by Evol, Tue May-16-06 05:42 PM
it's not the use of samples that irks me. i'm obsessively familiar with yr body of work.



it's their pitch.

i woulda raised both samples up a couple semitones each. shit sounds off to me.
44249, then if that is the case
Posted by 15, Tue May-16-06 07:09 PM
it means you absoulutely hate the body of work that is a rza right?

44250, Deleted message
Posted by 15, Tue May-16-06 07:09 PM
No message
44251, lol let it alone
Posted by prophet j, Wed May-17-06 03:18 AM
it's a good track

- - - - -

jy
1974-2006

peace & love
44252, RE: lol let it alone
Posted by kicksnarehats, Wed May-17-06 04:27 AM
haha hating before its even released!!!
44253, *sigh* this kinda killed my hopes for the album (yes I'm hating again)
Posted by 58impala, Tue May-16-06 01:01 AM
BT is lyrically on point again
and i love how the song ends
and i like that theres a short sorta break in there
but
its like irony for the song to be called "dont feel right"
cause
the execution of Maimouna's singing feels ordinary, cliche and is similar every other rap song. that doesn't feel right knowing that she is much more capable than that
the instrumental to the song gets boring after a while, not much desire to listen to it again after the 1st listen
and BT is being his bland self again, im tired of him having no sense of character in his flow, some poster was right and the roots really need a jigga man for the front man

this song kinda feels more like filler for ttp than the lead single for game theory

thats my $ 0.02


44254, RE: *sigh* this kinda killed my hopes for the album (yes I'm hating again)
Posted by nicknice, Tue May-16-06 01:16 AM
it was produced well, the overall end product has a different vibe than what i thought the record version would sound like after hearing it live a few times. The piano stabs were mixed way higher in the live performance making it more of a main melody than an element of a whole as it is now. Good work as usual, still can't wait for the ep.
pz
44255, so you want us coon?
Posted by 15, Tue May-16-06 04:29 PM
for real...most cats that complain about hip hop today STILL listen and accept the shit they claim to have disdain for in the current marketplace.

and the thing is i dont know vegans that sneak a lil pork chops every now and then. just because you dont purchase "lean with it rock with it" dont mean that shit dont effect your pallette.

that said:

"character". you ask for "character". have you heard the lyrics to this song? what about it screams a busta animated delievery? or some ying yang shit. or even common?

common's character is his most endearing trait. he is a loveable guy that you want to win. you believe in him. he is earnest. he "tries". he is borderline "suthern gentleman" with an east coast wardrobe.

as far as maimona's "cliched" singing, i think it is rather understated than the forced gospelized "dre day" background singing (blue raspberry anyone?) on most hip hop. no i disagree with you. i wanted her shit right in the middle of "gospel" and sade deadpan. listen again.

i dunno...if we come glossy (dont say nothing) you bitch. now we coming rather vintage east coast (and in the age of hyphy/snap music this is considered a risk) you bitching. i think you having personal issues.

we are not gonna "coon" and yes...most of yall who think you dig a certain element of hip hop just for art sake have no clue that yall are falling for the bamboozeled state of hip hop.

and it is cooning not "charachter".

but that is a whole nother argument.


sorry ol chap. this shit bangs.


your turn
44256, RE: so you want us coon?
Posted by JimmyJon, Tue May-16-06 05:12 PM
yeah, what he said...
this is ?uest's music, he makes it the way he wants it.
who cares if you like it or not.
I'm still anticipating the album.. this is just the single.
44257, dude u just gave the wackest reponse ever. ..just stop
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 05:33 PM

found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44258, .
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 05:36 PM



found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44259, ^^^TALIB KWELI PLEASE TAKE NOTE
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 05:22 PM
this is how u interact and/or defend your shit

found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44260, LOL yall leave kwe alone!
Posted by Von Pea, Tue May-16-06 08:03 PM

its fun with popular samples week!
http://www.myspace.com/vonpeamusic

The Red Giants are the shit.
44261, i promise i'm not coming at him sideways, but
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 09:43 PM
this is how it's down. ?uest has that shit down to a science, he defends his shits and he provides his reasons even when he's wrong.........ha ha

now who's getting more pub for their latest single...the roots? or...talib kweli?


found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44262, Feels fine to me!
Posted by Stro, Tue May-16-06 11:27 PM
I know I might be askin for it here, but here it goes...( hops on the nuts, with slippers on). This track just sounds good. Didn't Hiphop, screw that, didn't MUSIC used to be about a good sound, and or feeling. Some of the most neanderthall ( spelled the way they spell it) music has educated women and men losin they mind without a gil evans arrangement,or joni mitchell lyric anywhere to be found. Crazy crackin drums-check, Well performed effective hook-check, one of the most underated pocket riding MCs ever doing his job-Check! I wanna know whut makes this a less than steller release from this band. Evolution is a tricky bastard! Now if Kanye released this, it would be considered one of the best things he ever did. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe unconsciously my expectations have dropped. All I know is I'm rockin like a yes man when this comes on. (hop off the nuts, puts hater boots back on...)
44263, may i ask who u are?
Posted by lazyboi, Wed May-17-06 12:14 AM
found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44264, RE: may i ask who u are?
Posted by Stro, Wed May-17-06 01:59 AM
My name is Stro

I'm young, easy going, and I enjoy long walks in the record store.
44265, i-ight nice to meet you. never seen u before. checked out the
Posted by lazyboi, Wed May-17-06 04:57 PM
page tho...pretty good

found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44266, RE: i-ight nice to meet you. never seen u before. checked out the
Posted by Stro, Wed May-17-06 09:15 PM
Yeah, I'm fresh blood. Thanx for checkin out the page though....'preciate it.
44267, who said anything about cooning?
Posted by 58impala, Wed May-17-06 06:51 PM
first:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CiIlYz2n4Pg

second:
character was the wrong word to use, i was referring more to the straight up nas type flow BT has been using

third:
the song still doesnt do the trick for me, for the reasons i listed. its not like we all like every single song a band we like makes. this song just doesnt do it for me
44268, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by philliPINO, Tue May-16-06 01:22 AM
Good look, great song. ?uest definately carries the track and I think the sample completes the song.
44269, can anyone get an mp3 link?
Posted by TimLiu, Tue May-16-06 01:23 AM
?
44270, im gonna to rip it in the morning
Posted by 58impala, Tue May-16-06 01:28 AM
44271, why are you ripping it if you hate it?
Posted by BarTek, Wed May-17-06 03:47 AM

@}-,-`-

He looks determined without being ruthless
Something heroic in this man, there's a courage about him
Doesn't look like a killer
Comes across so calm, acts like he has a dream
Full of passion
44272, lol, i dont *hate* it, anyhow its because i have the know-how and
Posted by 58impala, Wed May-17-06 06:54 PM
people want the song on their ipods

so would do them the favor, but i had to stay late at work last night. last thing on my mind was to rip a song so i forgot
44273, here ya go mp3 link:
Posted by Menphyel7, Tue May-16-06 02:22 AM
sendspace.com/file/w1nrnb
44274, RE: here ya go mp3 link:
Posted by DaniLen, Tue May-16-06 10:36 AM
never mind.
44275, Good catch
Posted by handle, Tue May-16-06 03:18 AM
I was jsut googling this earlier. It's not in Google yet :)

Thanks
,Tom

http://www.therootsarchive.com
44276, i was just going through the Jukebox tryna find some new music
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 04:00 AM
and happened to see that it was there

i assumed i was late since i haven't checked Artist or the News updates in a while

but i guess not

i wonder how long Giant Step's had it up for

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44277, RE: i was just going through the Jukebox tryna find some new music
Posted by handle, Tue May-16-06 04:15 AM
>
>i wonder how long Giant Step's had it up for

Says: justonekid posted at: 2006-05-15 23:03:11

So 5 hours or so :)
44278, it's tight
Posted by shockzilla, Tue May-16-06 05:01 AM
which bodes well for the album

best hook they've had for a while
44279, Love it
Posted by sherm09, Tue May-16-06 06:05 AM
classic roots with a new feel.

the production is on point--and thought kills it

and i'm feelin the hook

better then i thought the single would be

thank you
44280, Meh
Posted by Things.fall.Apart, Tue May-16-06 10:45 AM
don't get me wrong i love the roots, but is it me, or arn't they as creative as they could be? this does seem like a filler for ttp and a cliched rap song. the roots are capable of a hell of a lot more.
44281, RE: Meh
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Tue May-16-06 11:08 AM
>don't get me wrong i love the roots, but is it me, or arn't
>they as creative as they could be? this does seem like a
>filler for ttp and a cliched rap song. the roots are capable
>of a hell of a lot more.
To me this doesn't sound like anything on TTP. As some have said, if this is any indication of what to expect on Game Theory I'm excited. Thought is spittin' with conviction and the track is dope. It kinda remind me of some TFA shit but not quite. As far as creativity.. some times simple can be just as dope and get the job done! I cant wait to get home so I can really bump this!
44282, cliched rap song? did you listen to what he was saying
Posted by Menphyel7, Tue May-16-06 11:57 AM
44283, ugh ie "you want tricks"
Posted by 15, Tue May-16-06 05:54 PM
look i know we make shit look rather effortless but this is ridiculi! lol
so maybe this is the tom hanks syndrome post forrest gump
you putting on us as in what you think as "ho hum heard this before" nothing
special.

but im sorry, you know how hard it is not to have ONE CORNY line in a hip hop joint today?
show me the corny line.
and i dont wanna hear "why is he so deadpan?" the song calls for "deadpan" the lyrics are about something that dosn't require a "dat skat" flow.

now if you say "well i prefer my roots animated" then i can accept that (im still gonna question it but will accept it) but i think most of you naysayers feel indifference and have no clue as to why you feel this way (and of course i get blamed for it):


take the kast single: the most dangerous thing on "pushing the envelope" is the second you decide to "tone it down" (ie pryor not using "nigger" anymore...the beginning of "soft" "non hard edge" pryor) it just naturally lets down. now i for one am not disappointed in "the mighty oh" simply because i feel the rhymes are tight and the beat is cool. but most of the kast cult first of all can't even admit or conceive that perhaps "bombs over bag"/"hey ya" was more an exercise in image pushing (yes i give credit to where credit is due both songs are great but you CANT dismiss the "look ma no hands" image approach that is andre 3000.) than just "great songs to listen to".

so that said i dont know if we "pushed the envelope" so far to no return--actually i can't recall a first single in the past 10 years that pleased roots fans more than caused them to cry "meh!"---(break you off?, dont say nothing---matter of fact i dont recall no holidays for "dont see us" either)

its an expectations game. and i dont know what kind of "tricks" or fireworks or smoke and mirrors shit we can pull in this era of post modern hip hop (especially when we are celebrating the long done with classic 93 era hip hop)

i mean what are you comparing this song to?

i think this song is better than corners (and before you start dont even reply until you acknowledge that the success of BE had EVERYTHING to do with Com's association with you know who (dont believe me? tell kanye to sit this record out and see what's up...com aint stupid he knows aint nothing going on but private school tuition)---

so again: with no trick to pull (ie the kanye endorsement..and yes admit it..its a trick)
and no suuuthin flow (30 of the top rap joints are down south)


what do you suggest we do?
44284, You send it link..
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Tue May-16-06 10:59 AM
Ill inbox if u want it..
44285, RE: You send it link..
Posted by fowler, Tue May-16-06 11:10 AM
can u pm me the yousendit link please


Thanks to the poster, been waiting for this for ages!

The breakdown is cool on 3rd verse although is completly out of the blue on first listen.

For the single though I think its cool, much better than don't say nuthin.

I hope this is a hit.


44286, me too please!
Posted by Evol, Tue May-16-06 11:29 AM
44287, inbox?
Posted by RdblOTS, Tue May-16-06 01:46 PM
44288, inbox,
Posted by chi_soul, Tue May-16-06 02:09 PM
please...
44289, RE: You send it link..
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Tue May-16-06 02:15 PM
Something wrong with the messaging.. So fuck it, here it is!
yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=51EC6E0F44176673
44290, inbox please
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 05:24 PM

found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44291, me too...i'm feeling this...a LOT
Posted by Babadudu, Tue May-16-06 06:07 PM

------------------------------
Best kept secret
www.runmc.com

Dark like the side of the moon u don't see
But a lot's going on beneath the surface if u look closely

Naija4lyf
44292, Inbox please.
Posted by westloop, Tue May-16-06 06:43 PM
Thanks!
44293, Not a Banger. Not impressed at all! that chick gets on my nerves
Posted by Bigmell, Tue May-16-06 11:35 AM
They right..It don't feel right!

Sounds like some stupid popish radio shit.

Too MTV-ish, Z100 like

Blah!

Prob will sound wicked live as with anything they do.

But umm no play-o in my Ipod!

I guess thats the "light" in the dark(cd)
44294, word?
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 03:16 PM
>They right..It don't feel right!
>
>Sounds like some stupid popish radio shit.
>
>Too MTV-ish, Z100 like

if thats the case im gonna start tuning in to Z100 and TRL all the time now
they musta switched formats or something, lol



Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44295, it feels right
Posted by okaybrazilian, Tue May-16-06 12:25 PM
to me at least. definitely lookin' forward to the rest of the album
44296, I vote Tic-Tac-Toe for the next single cover
Posted by analog2digital, Tue May-16-06 12:38 PM
Or Sudoku

Actually Sudoku would be ill for the album cover.

I vote to rename the album Sudoku.

44297, I have goose bumps......
Posted by boyd, Tue May-16-06 12:59 PM
44298, wow. just got the cover.
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 03:17 PM
lol... thank you!

my stupid ass just assumed they were tryna say lynching just "don't feel right" - lol!

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44299, RE: I vote Tic-Tac-Toe for the next single cover
Posted by budz4zo, Tue May-16-06 03:50 PM
>Or Sudoku
>
>Actually Sudoku would be ill for the album cover.
>
>I vote to rename the album Sudoku.
>
>


bahahaha, ive been playing mad sudoku lately. would be ill for an album cover. i dont know about this one, but def someones cover...
44300, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by simps, Tue May-16-06 12:52 PM
I am loving this. As good as anything off of The Tipping Point.

This gets me that much more excited for Game Theory.

This one is gonna be a doozy.
44301, I liked it...
Posted by angiebabe3679, Tue May-16-06 01:22 PM
Its different and I like the delivery of the chorus...
44302, Not feeling it at all
Posted by temps2020, Tue May-16-06 01:28 PM
i try not to be too critical of The Roots on their site, but I can't get into this track at all. Sounds formulaic to me and nothing new. BT is bland in his lyrics, and the female vocals are annoying and feel like i've heard it before. i'm still waiting for BT to actually talk about something, he's still a beast on the mic and has one of the best voices. i like how the beat changed up, but the chorus "don't feel right." i'm disappointed this is their big Def Jam single (if it is).

i ain't hating, just really not feelin' it.

Rotating
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PUTS - Stepfather
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Ohmega Watts - The Find
LB - Separate But Equal

"everybody gets hated on. a nigga on this board hated on me because I hated him for hatin" Darryl Reeves
44303, RE: Not feeling it at all
Posted by Andre Iguodala, Tue May-16-06 02:05 PM
sounds to much like tp material...i was hoping they would go back thier earlier sound or push it in a new direction...i mean its catchy but it feels too produced, i wish they went back to pushing hip hop, this feels like they are just trying to fit in with modern/radio hip hop.

but this is the single and the it is rare nowadays for there to be a single to the track that really impresses me. I do like the "breakdown"

we'll see, but i am really hoping this album is not too much like tipping point. If you ask me, bring back malik, a beat box, and some creativity, forget trying to get that radio track (i know, i know, thats what pays the bills). Every album seemed to try something different and this single gives me the feeling like they are just trying to take a tipping point and give it more over-production.




In the name of the father, the iverson, and the holy spirit.
44304, please tell me
Posted by 15, Tue May-16-06 07:32 PM
what in the world is on radio today that sounds like this.

for real.

no bait-o

and i SWEAR i aint tryna engage the naysayers into anytype of debate---ie yall being afraid to say what's on your minds.

but if you gonna make a point i want that shit to be bulletproof.

pushing hip hop?

what is pushing hip hop.

first of yall you can't dismiss that most of yall are streaming this song listening on small ass computer speakers (in other words i doubt you are banging this in the whip where the shit truly counts)

wow i really had cats wrong on this.

i avoided the easy chipmunk route
i avoided the cymbal crash emphasizing the hook ie just blaze
i avoided the "yall do the same shit over" thing with no rhodes/dilla isms
no shuffles or stop on the dime club rhythms ("Fatty Girl" "fiesta")
even took my trademark snaps out just so i would'nt get accused of biting something i been doing on my records since day one.

what breakbeat on radio does this sound like?

like did i bite a pattern?

or did you mean the girl?

but yet and still i doubt you'd scoff at mary j singin "you're all i need to get by"

and even at that this aint even a love song! lol

so i beg of all you cats. step from out the shadow of the alias (why are all the naysayers under 1000? lol) like help me understand what you expect from us.

(shrugs)

maybe you just outgrown us.

i dont know what more to say.

this shit bangs the fuck outta my ride. kicks are deep and my snare pops. and as far as being "impressed"

what trick do you want?

yall looking for tricks to keep you entertained.

for real...i want a real known okaycritic to come with something concrete that i can understand.


go wake up buildingblock. play him this so i can unnderstand what standard yall putting me in...i'll be damned if i get raked over the coals for doing EASILY the closest thing to the anti roots "break you off"/"dont say nothing" shit i knew yall were gonna hate.


if you looking for "tricks" (wow! he can scat and rhyme at the same time!! cool!!!!)
or "personality" (wow! the way he said "raaaow raoow like a dungeon dragon!!!!" cool!!!)
or the i know its coming "where's hov?" "where's nas?" "where's ghost?" "where's kanye?" post...i mean that to me reads "easy". i enjoy the art of all my label mates but that to me is starting on the wrong foot.

why can't we just be consistant on our 3 pointers? like we gotta 360 monster jam shit from the half court EVERYtime?

"wow you hear that drum and bass thing on you got me?"

sorry folks...that was called "a trick"---look "innovative" or "cutting edge" but at the end of the day that was a seaworld "trick".

the beauty/coolness of "you got me" was that it was a great song. not "the drum shit at the end". that was my dave letterman stupid human trick/cherry on top.

keep em coming, we might as well debate now before the album comes out.
44305, RE: please tell me
Posted by okhumboldt, Tue May-16-06 08:20 PM


i cant wait to bump this shit in my ride....my "small ass computer speakers" are cranked as high as they go and i keep reachin over there to turn it up. this aint dark like they keep saying game theory is gonna be. this shit is fire! the break in the middle just kills it.
>



>first of yall you can't dismiss that most of yall are
>streaming this song listening on small ass computer speakers
>(in other words i doubt you are banging this in the whip where
>the shit truly counts)
>
44306, RE: please tell me
Posted by JIHAD, Tue May-16-06 08:37 PM
dog,please...

come with some uptempo shit, with a bassline o.k. ?

I talked to a straight hip-hop dummy who summed the Roots up perfectly, and I quote:

"These guys stuff is all mid-tempo, it's not soft, but it's more like wallpaper,nothing ever jumps out, the beats are COOL, the rhymes are COOL...but it's usually pretty flat"

I feel that that dummy spoke for once with some serious insight.
He's right.
Y'all play it a little too safe (BPM/Dynamic wise).
You get a lil' crazy and it's like Scooby ate too many pot brownies (Water)

Now I'm really not trying to crack, cuz you posed the question.

I remember when Late Registration came out, my first reaction to "Crack Music" was I would love it if "the Roots" sounded like this (as a band...in a room with a mic) on a track.

This joint sounds like you and Kamal collaborated two individual pieces into a beat. Where's Hub? Where's Knuckles?, Where's Capt. Kirk?

If it's gonna be like that...just let Thought shine over the Dilla beat. That has a bassline, a dope beat, and is UPTEMPO.

and I'm not trying to rake you over the coals,player.

It seems you're trying to please more than one master.

If you gotta do radio...blow radio away. This track ain't gonna blow radio away. This is gone Ghostface and not even be on the radar by the time the album drops.

I ain't saying you gotta go club single, but y'all do too many tracks for the "bitches" (that's that mid-tempo shit again)...I consider it the "Apple Martini Movement".

If y'all niggas ain't got nothing that sounds like a BAND freaking the "jungle boogie" sample on some Bomb Squad/Dilla ish with Thought ripping it...then fuck it...you gonna be grumblin' about Gnarls Barkley eating your dinner and Andre and Big Boi wearing your shoes this time next year.

I wish you'd hear me though.


>what in the world is on radio today that sounds like this.
>
>for real.
>
>no bait-o
>
>and i SWEAR i aint tryna engage the naysayers into anytype of
>debate---ie yall being afraid to say what's on your minds.
>
>but if you gonna make a point i want that shit to be
>bulletproof.
>
>pushing hip hop?
>
>what is pushing hip hop.
>
>first of yall you can't dismiss that most of yall are
>streaming this song listening on small ass computer speakers
>(in other words i doubt you are banging this in the whip where
>the shit truly counts)
>
>wow i really had cats wrong on this.
>
>i avoided the e

asy chipmunk route
>i avoided the cymbal crash emphasizing the hook ie just blaze
>i avoided the "yall do the same shit over" thing with no
>rhodes/dilla isms
>no shuffles or stop on the dime club rhythms ("Fatty Girl"
>"fiesta")
>even took my trademark snaps out just so i would'nt get
>accused of biting something i been doing on my records since
>day one.
>
>what breakbeat on radio does this sound like?
>
>like did i bite a pattern?
>
>or did you mean the girl?
>
>but yet and still i doubt you'd scoff at mary j singin "you're
>all i need to get by"
>
>and even at that this aint even a love song! lol
>
>so i beg of all you cats. step from out the shadow of the
>alias (why are all the naysayers under 1000? lol) like help me
>understand what you expect from us.
>
>(shrugs)
>
>maybe you just outgrown us.
>
>i dont know what more to say.
>
>this shit bangs the fuck outta my ride. kicks are deep and my
>snare pops. and as far as being "impressed"
>
>what trick do you want?
>
>yall looking for tricks to keep you entertained.
>
>for real...i want a real known okaycritic to come with
>something concrete that i can understand.
>
>
>go wake up buildingblock. play him this so i can unnderstand
>what standard yall putting me in...i'll be damned if i get
>raked over the coals for doing EASILY the closest thing to the
>anti roots "break you off"/"dont say nothing" shit i knew yall
>were gonna hate.
>
>
>if you looking for "tricks" (wow! he can scat and rhyme at the
>same time!! cool!!!!)
>or "personality" (wow! the way he said "raaaow raoow like a
>dungeon dragon!!!!" cool!!!)
>or the i know its coming "where's hov?" "where's nas?"
>"where's ghost?" "where's kanye?" post...i mean that to me
>reads "easy". i enjoy the art of all my label mates but that
>to me is starting on the wrong foot.
>
>why can't we just be consistant on our 3 pointers? like we
>gotta 360 monster jam shit from the half court EVERYtime?
>
>"wow you hear that drum and bass thing on you got me?"
>
>sorry folks...that was called "a trick"---look "innovative" or
>"cutting edge" but at the end of the day that was a seaworld
>"trick".
>
>the beauty/coolness of "you got me" was that it was a great
>song. not "the drum shit at the end". that was my dave
>letterman stupid human trick/cherry on top.
>
>keep em coming, we might as well debate now before the album
>comes out.
44307, I hate to be this brutally honest with myself...
Posted by ak618, Tue May-16-06 10:36 PM
but JIHAD definitely has a point. Sometimes I wish yall would take some risks. What I love is that you groove like a muthafucka every time so mindblowingly well, and i could listen to that roots all day. But sometimes you gotta do something different, maybe real uptempo, like showing the band off more.

That being said this joint is bangin, and as long as your making music this dope im not complaining at all. im just suggesting that one day you do something a little more spontaneous or in your face.

This is a suggestion for the future. as for game theory as long as its dope im happy.
44308, RE: please tell me
Posted by 15, Wed May-17-06 04:26 AM
>dog,please...
>
>come with some uptempo shit, with a bassline o.k. ?

thought@work was 110 bpms
the seed was 115 bpms

i've done uptempo shit before.

and what does speed have to do with a good effective song?

the fastest song on the top 100 is 100bpms ("tell me when to go") the rest are sitting somewhere between 80-90 bpms.

im not saying "im following the marketplace" but if your answer is "we would like this if you just went faster like the other faster things out" then i would have to bring up the point that most of the shit out today that is "success" is waaaaaaaaay under this son bpm wise.

I talked to a straight hip-hop dummy who summed the Roots up
>perfectly, and I quote:
>
>"These guys stuff is all mid-tempo, it's not soft, but it's
>more like wallpaper,nothing ever jumps out, the beats are
>COOL, the rhymes are COOL...but it's usually pretty flat"


i did the "jump out" record called phrenology. again just because you got fast bpms does that mean i can just discount the other elements that make a song a success?



>I feel that that dummy spoke for once with some serious
>insight.
>He's right.
>Y'all play it a little too safe (BPM/Dynamic wise).
>You get a lil' crazy and it's like Scooby ate too many pot
>brownies (Water)


well...again. the fact that i am a root within itself is the risk. this is the tom hanks/allen iverson in his 9th year reaction. hanks is a master and after phila/big/gump/road to/ryan/toy/seattle/cast away---i mean after awhile a critic said that hanks is so good in his work that to praise him becomes cliched.

now i aint saying everything i touch turns to gold. but you also can't say that this song ranks with the filler from the Ghetto Superstar album either. and compared to the shit you dealing with now? i find it really some curious shit that im getting picked on over this.



>Now I'm really not trying to crack, cuz you posed the
>question.
>
>I remember when Late Registration came out, my first reaction
>to "Crack Music" was I would love it if "the Roots" sounded
>like this (as a band...in a room with a mic) on a track.
>
>This joint sounds like you and Kamal collaborated two
>individual pieces into a beat. Where's Hub? Where's Knuckles?,
>Where's Capt. Kirk?


so the idea of the roots fulfilling your fantasy is better than the idea of the roots making a good song?

the roots ain't made no striped down hip hop since "clones"--i mean need i make a list of "Stripped Down" hip hop? if you a "head" then you questioning why i made a stripped down jawn confuses me. that's like me asking the bomb squad circa 87 why "dont believe the hype" was slower than "rebel"/"noize" and with half the samples. i mean it aint the end of the world if mofos sit one out right? this is just a piano/drum song.

something we NEVER done before.



>If it's gonna be like that...just let Thought shine over the
>Dilla beat. That has a bassline, a dope beat, and is UPTEMPO.
>
>and I'm not trying to rake you over the coals,player.
>
>It seems you're trying to please more than one master.


no...i'm only trying to please myself.
you bring that subject up again like we aint never used a "bassline", or the drums aint knocking (if these drums dont knock to you i question the system you listening on.
and ive done shit at high speed, and ive done shit at slow speed.


>If you gotta do radio...blow radio away. This track ain't
>gonna blow radio away. This is gone Ghostface and not even be
>on the radar by the time the album drops.



what the hell yall smoking? this sounds like the "radio" attempt cause we got a girl singing the hook? the reason why SHE singing it cause if i sing it the windows will shatter! lol....oh god yall got this SO WRONG....

i am a DJ
this is 2006.

if you gonna go radio--you need to follow in the marketplace. this hip hop im tryna keep alive for yall mofos is all but DEAD in the eyes of radio.

this does NOT sound like the cousin of "the whisper song" or remotely remind you of it!!!!!
is "lean with it ,rock with it" the song you thought we were doing?
what about that chamillionare joint "ridin" that what you thought we thought we was doin?
or "oh i think they like me"? that gotta be it
or "snap your fingers"?
or that din da da ying yang song?

matter of fact...lets go to billboard:

ti-what you know
chamillionare-ridin
yung joc-its goin down
dem franchise boyz-lean with it, rock with it
bubba sparks-ms new booty
lil jon-snap your fingers
field mob-so what
50 cent-best friend


what song was we tryna approximate? the whole top 100 looks like this list. oh please don't pat yourself on the back for this one.



>I ain't saying you gotta go club single, but y'all do too many
>tracks for the "bitches" (that's that mid-tempo shit
>again)...I consider it the "Apple Martini Movement".


wow. a protest song about the state of the world executed in a way that is light years away from what anybody is doing today and you just dismiss this as us having drunk bitches in mind.


>If y'all niggas ain't got nothing that sounds like a BAND
>freaking the "jungle boogie" sample on some Bomb Squad/Dilla
>ish with Thought ripping it...then fuck it...you gonna be
>grumblin' about Gnarls Barkley eating your dinner and Andre
>and Big Boi wearing your shoes this time next year.



>I wish you'd hear me though.


eh...ok. i asked for the "argument"

and this is it?


yall really dont know what niggas is up against do you?
44309, Defensive
Posted by JIHAD, Wed May-17-06 05:21 AM
>>dog,please...
>>
>>come with some uptempo shit, with a bassline o.k. ?
>
>thought@work was 110 bpms
>the seed was 115 bpms

O.k. T.A.W. was doper with the Beatles sample...THAT would've been a good look. Wait...was that a single? Y'all need a single that ROCKS...
hear me when I say drop the Thought/Dilla/Dice Raw joint as is...cats foam at the mouth whenever they hear it (not necessarily knowing who the hell it is either)

The Seed was better as Cody's song on Cody's album. It got you a lot of play, and a gang of new audience. But are you following through with that sound? No.

I'm saying give me this song with a "moving" bassline and not just some dumbed down piano loop and we're talking.

Like I said, you should've inverted the middle 8 loop to be the meat and potatoes of the song. Why? Cause it's got more shit to move to than that stiff ass piano loop. (read that part slowly 2 or 3 times)f

>i've done uptempo shit before.
>
>and what does speed have to do with a good effective song?

Effective song is what you want as a first single.
Remember when Prince clowned Wendy & Lisa for the Waterfalls video...

Y'all be coming with the Waterfalls video/song more often than not.
Mid-tempo joint that's locked down but generally kind of dull...
fuck tryna sound like a loop nigga ZIGGABOO MODELISTE that shit. OPEN THE HIGH-HAT 30 times in one song.
Y'all ish be kinda like leggos.

>the fastest song on the top 100 is 100bpms ("tell me when to
>go") the rest are sitting somewhere between 80-90 bpms.
>
>im not saying "im following the marketplace" but if your
>answer is "we would like this if you just went faster like the
>other faster things out" then i would have to bring up the
>point that most of the shit out today that is "success" is
>waaaaaaaaay under this son bpm wise.

Not what I'm saying at all Ahmir.
You've got a band. Not many hip-hop groups in the top 10,20 or otherwise have a band.
You need to show that band ROCKING THE CROWD w/ a song with MAD CRAZY ENERGY AS YOUR DEBUT SINGLE FOR DEF JAM.

The crowd wants to identify with that BAND...
slow or fast...whatever, come with some "KING OF ROCK" shit or a "SUCKER MC's". You thinking too hard coming with that mid-tempo again.

Play a old '73 soul train dance line video with the sound off...you're first single should sync up to whatever those free ass negroes were getting buck too...

After you cats did "RAW" at the VH-1 Honors...everyone who saw that clip was like "I WANT MORE ROOTS LIKE THAT!!!!"

this ain't that, THAT will cut through all the top 20,10 shit, this will not (sorry charlie, I'll put money on it)

If the RockSteady Breakers can't fuck with it...don't put it out as a first single. Feel me?

folks see 6 niggas in the picture and hear 3 on the record.

Booo!
>
>I talked to a straight hip-hop dummy who summed the Roots up
>>perfectly, and I quote:
>>
>>"These guys stuff is all mid-tempo, it's not soft, but it's
>>more like wallpaper,nothing ever jumps out, the beats are
>>COOL, the rhymes are COOL...but it's usually pretty flat"
>
>
>i did the "jump out" record called phrenology. again just
>because you got fast bpms does that mean i can just discount
>the other elements that make a song a success?

phrenology was o.k., I'm not asking for "phrenology" though.
I'm asking for "She Watch Channel Zero", ain't no "She Watch Channel Zero's" on Phrenology,player. Overstand what I'm saying.
>
>
>>I feel that that dummy spoke for once with some serious
>>insight.
>>He's right.
>>Y'all play it a little too safe (BPM/Dynamic wise).
>>You get a lil' crazy and it's like Scooby ate too many pot
>>brownies (Water)
>
>
>well...again. the fact that i am a root within itself is the
>risk. this is the tom hanks/allen iverson in his 9th year
>reaction. hanks is a master and after phila/big/gump/road
>to/ryan/toy/seattle/cast away---i mean after awhile a critic
>said that hanks is so good in his work that to praise him
>becomes cliched.

You're best work is with Dilla, and it's not "Roots" albums.
Seriously.

>now i aint saying everything i touch turns to gold. but you
>also can't say that this song ranks with the filler from the
>Ghetto Superstar album either. and compared to the shit you
>dealing with now? i find it really some curious shit that im
>getting picked on over this.

I'm not picking, I just want a banging ass remix with a bass line and some funky hi-hats, and a guitar and some percussion.
the rhyme is cold, but it's wearing the wrong threads in my opinion.
>
>>Now I'm really not trying to crack, cuz you posed the
>>question.
>>
>>I remember when Late Registration came out, my first
>reaction
>>to "Crack Music" was I would love it if "the Roots" sounded
>>like this (as a band...in a room with a mic) on a track.
>>
>>This joint sounds like you and Kamal collaborated two
>>individual pieces into a beat. Where's Hub? Where's
>Knuckles?,
>>Where's Capt. Kirk?
>
>
>so the idea of the roots fulfilling your fantasy is better
>than the idea of the roots making a good song?

damn...you just mind melded with my wifes debating rational.
NO! OVERSTAND!
"YOU JUST SIGNED TO DEF JAM YOU'RE FIRST SINGLE SOUNDS LIKE ___________"

sure,expectations can get high after reading liner note after liner note detailing the battles with Geffen/MCA/Geffen...but now you've gone and made a record that could've been on Illadelph or T.T.P.
as I said...the vocals/lyrics are tight...but y'all ain't light no fireworks in my opinion.

Of course it bangs in your whip.

I tried to bang it in mine...and it was just "AIIGHT"

>the roots ain't made no striped down hip hop since "clones"--i
>mean need i make a list of "Stripped Down" hip hop? if you a
>"head" then you questioning why i made a stripped down jawn
>confuses me. that's like me asking the bomb squad circa 87 why
>"dont believe the hype" was slower than "rebel"/"noize" and
>with half the samples. i mean it aint the end of the world if
>mofos sit one out right? this is just a piano/drum song.
>
>something we NEVER done before.

dog, if you gonna strip it down. STRIP IT DOWN. First Priority sounded stripped down, BDP "POETRY" sounds stripped down. This sounds like y'all recorded it in 3 studios on 4 coasts.

yeah...make that list.

Follow the Leader was stripped down, but mastered so terribly you can't tell.

This is nowhere near Follow the Leader.

Shit...I wish y'all would bring some "don't believe the hype" or "rebel/noize" type shit. Hear me...I WISH!!!
Not this bassless,1/2 a RZA stuff.

How much would it cost to do a bring the noize/don't believe the hype jam to your liking?

do you have anything like that instore?

Again...don't sleep on that Thought/Dilla track. That shit is a crackhouse on FIRE.

>
>>If it's gonna be like that...just let Thought shine over the
>>Dilla beat. That has a bassline, a dope beat, and is
>UPTEMPO.
>>
>>and I'm not trying to rake you over the coals,player.
>>
>>It seems you're trying to please more than one master.
>
>
>no...i'm only trying to please myself.
>you bring that subject up again like we aint never used a
>"bassline", or the drums aint knocking (if these drums dont
>knock to you i question the system you listening on.
>and ive done shit at high speed, and ive done shit at slow
>speed.

by all means DO YOU,kid. I got nothing but respect for you and your work...

but yeah...give me some memorable "Roots" basslines, not them whole note stunners.

>
>>If you gotta do radio...blow radio away. This track ain't
>>gonna blow radio away. This is gone Ghostface and not even
>be
>>on the radar by the time the album drops.
>
>
>
>what the hell yall smoking? this sounds like the "radio"
>attempt cause we got a girl singing the hook? the reason why
>SHE singing it cause if i sing it the windows will shatter!
>lol....oh god yall got this SO WRONG....

for one chill w/ the girl on the hook joints.

>i am a DJ
>this is 2006.

You're serrato crazy,dog. You're giving "dummy nation" a shorter attention span with all of that instant gratification to go with their red bull and vodka.

>if you gonna go radio--you need to follow in the marketplace.
>this hip hop im tryna keep alive for yall mofos is all but
>DEAD in the eyes of radio.

and this track is just as confusing as them free throws the Fugees put up.

>this does NOT sound like the cousin of "the whisper song" or
>remotely remind you of it!!!!!
>is "lean with it ,rock with it" the song you thought we were
>doing?
>what about that chamillionare joint "ridin" that what you
>thought we thought we was doin?
>or "oh i think they like me"? that gotta be it
>or "snap your fingers"?
>or that din da da ying yang song?
>
>matter of fact...lets go to billboard:
>
>ti-what you know
>chamillionare-ridin
>yung joc-its goin down
>dem franchise boyz-lean with it, rock with it
>bubba sparks-ms new booty
>lil jon-snap your fingers
>field mob-so what
>50 cent-best friend
>
>
>what song was we tryna approximate? the whole top 100 looks
>like this list. oh please don't pat yourself on the back for
>this one.

this sounds like "Don't Say Nothing" been reading the paper for 2 years.

I'm sorry you're in the same business as Dem Franchise Boys, you will have a more lasting legacy than those guys...will you be talking about "Roots" albums? Hmmm...I don't know, prolly not.
>
>>I ain't saying you gotta go club single, but y'all do too
>many
>>tracks for the "bitches" (that's that mid-tempo shit
>>again)...I consider it the "Apple Martini Movement".
>
>
>wow. a protest song about the state of the world executed in a
>way that is light years away from what anybody is doing today
>and you just dismiss this as us having drunk bitches in mind.

dog,you more sensitive than Arnold Drummond on the bedwetting ep of Different Strokes.

You stupid for trying to sneak a mid-tempo protest song on the radio with all that shit you listed in the top whatever.

The girl on the hook will pull in the bitches and you know it,son.
C'mon...
C'mon...
Nigga C'mon!

dummy's will say, "Oooh, it's like "you got me" and "don't say nuthin"

C'mon dude.

>>If y'all niggas ain't got nothing that sounds like a BAND
>>freaking the "jungle boogie" sample on some Bomb
>Squad/Dilla
>>ish with Thought ripping it...then fuck it...you gonna be
>>grumblin' about Gnarls Barkley eating your dinner and Andre
>>and Big Boi wearing your shoes this time next year.
>
>
>
>>I wish you'd hear me though.
>
>
>eh...ok. i asked for the "argument"
>
>and this is it?
>
>
>yall really dont know what niggas is up against do you?

You trying to argue. I'm trying to suggest some shit as a fan who can bend your ear back. After the last 2 albums...y'all need to come with some Rage Against The Machine-Battle of Los Angeles shit.

As I've stated I'm feeling the vocals, but the track is lackluster.
I'm almost expecting Keith Murray to come on talking shit.

I can't wait to hear the rest.
considering y'all are up against Outkast,Fugees and Busta Rhymes on some "cats that have SOME credibility" tip... I can't wait.
And for once I refuse to read the fucking liner notes...
the songs will have to stand on there own...no anecdotes about the ghost of Jimi Hendrix programming motifs through infants.

it's not so bad,just jump off of an exploding speaker or something.
44310, Wow u sure are bitchin' a lot..
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Wed May-17-06 10:49 AM
Just enjoy the music man!!! This is a dope song, take it for what it is! If you want something uptempo then go purchase some uptempo shit. Or better yet, since you have all these wonderful ideas of what a good hip hop record should sound like, why don't you get in the studio and make this shit happen?!? And no I ain't a dick rider but you seem to be going out of your way to HATE on this song. Do you think Quest, Thought, Kamal, and Hub went in the studio like, "Yeah we gonna make a jawn just for JIHAD"? GTFOOHWTBS The Roots are moving on and expanding their sound! Give me 2 Roots Albums (Major Releases) That sound alike....
44311, Dickrider's are like goats
Posted by JIHAD, Wed May-17-06 03:20 PM
they'll eat anything cause they don't have independent thought.

You're a MAJOR dickrider,kid.

Maybe ?uest'll let you shine his nuts when you're done meditating on them.

>Just enjoy the music man!!! This is a dope song, take it for
>what it is! If you want something uptempo then go purchase
>some uptempo shit. Or better yet, since you have all these
>wonderful ideas of what a good hip hop record should sound
>like, why don't you get in the studio and make this shit
>happen?!? And no I ain't a dick rider but you seem to be
>going out of your way to HATE on this song. Do you think
>Quest, Thought, Kamal, and Hub went in the studio like, "Yeah
>we gonna make a jawn just for JIHAD"? GTFOOHWTBS The Roots
>are moving on and expanding their sound! Give me 2 Roots
>Albums (Major Releases) That sound alike....
44312, Naah dude..
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Fri May-19-06 06:02 PM
Im just a fan that enjoys good hip hop. You on the other hand seems like someone insecure and starving for attention. You feel the need to go back and forth with ?uest about how much you dont like this single and what YOU think HE should do to make HIS music to YOUR standards. Grow the fuck up! You're just a message board poster
>they'll eat anything cause they don't have independent
>thought.
>
>You're a MAJOR dickrider,kid.
>
>Maybe ?uest'll let you shine his nuts when you're done
>meditating on them.
>
>>Just enjoy the music man!!! This is a dope song, take it
>for
>>what it is! If you want something uptempo then go purchase
>>some uptempo shit. Or better yet, since you have all these
>>wonderful ideas of what a good hip hop record should sound
>>like, why don't you get in the studio and make this shit
>>happen?!? And no I ain't a dick rider but you seem to be
>>going out of your way to HATE on this song. Do you think
>>Quest, Thought, Kamal, and Hub went in the studio like,
>"Yeah
>>we gonna make a jawn just for JIHAD"? GTFOOHWTBS The Roots
>>are moving on and expanding their sound! Give me 2 Roots
>>Albums (Major Releases) That sound alike....
>
44313, "VROOM VROOM" what does that mean?
Posted by JIHAD, Fri May-19-06 07:18 PM
speako English

OOOoohhh...you're speaking dickrider AGAIN

yeah BITCH, it's a message board.

perfect place for me to ask homeboy WTF IS UP W/ THAT SNOOZER OF A 1ST SINGLE.

seems your the one that loves attention CHAMP.

hope ?uest tickles your chin while you're servicing him.

VROOM VROOM
44314, ^^^Im not even responding to this bullshit!
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Fri May-19-06 08:30 PM
n/m
44315, i got to admit
Posted by betelgeuse, Wed May-17-06 11:03 AM
i agree w/ most of what you just said. i'm happy we got a taste of
the new roots album. this song is okay to me, but nothing to get too
excited about. especially when intended as a single.

>You need to show that band ROCKING THE CROWD w/ a song with
>MAD CRAZY ENERGY AS YOUR DEBUT SINGLE FOR DEF JAM. Play a old '73
>soul train dance line video with the sound off...
>After you cats did "RAW" at the VH-1 Honors...everyone who saw
>that clip was like "I WANT MORE ROOTS LIKE THAT!!!!"

maybe it's an expectancy thing, but why not cater to that a little.
i'm not talking tricks, i'm talking about that energy you guys have
onstage. take that to the studio. you hardly do that imho.

>Of course it bangs in your whip.
>I tried to bang it in mine...and it was just "AIIGHT"

lol, but true.

>for one chill w/ the girl on the hook joints.

feel the same way.

>I can't wait to hear the rest.
>considering y'all are up against Outkast,Fugees and Busta
>Rhymes on some "cats that have SOME credibility" tip... I
>can't wait.

this is good for hiphop. some pretty tough competition.
can't wait either.

>And for once I refuse to read the fucking liner notes...
>the songs will have to stand on there own...no anecdotes about
>the ghost of Jimi Hendrix programming motifs through infants.

lol

44316, RE: please tell me
Posted by Origin05, Fri May-19-06 10:38 PM
Sorry fuck that.. "Water" is one of my top 3 favorite Roots tracks.
44317, i hope you read The Lesson post too
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Wed May-17-06 01:43 AM
because it seems like a lot more people are feeling it over there

overall, i'd say its been a pretty positive response from OKPs
definitely better than the response to the last 2 first singles

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44318, well since dude was responding to my little post in this thread
Posted by temps2020, Wed May-17-06 09:59 AM
at first listen i wasn't feelin it. i don't get into "i don't like how the drums sound", etc. I don't get too technical, i just go for how the track feels to me and if i can get into it. i'm not expecting y'all to go in a certain direction, or use any kind of sound that's on the radio.

you're right, this sounds like nothing on the radio, and that's what I love about y'all, and you still do you despite the criticisms of the past two albums. that said, after many more listens, I really do like the song now. sometimes it takes time to grow on me. at first the thing that was bothering me most was the singing...and its not like i don't want any singing, i just wasn't feeling that, but after more listens it fits the song well. drums kick hard, and as i pay attention to BT's lyrics, i like what he's spittin.

?uest i know you want some bulletproof reasons why some cats don't like this song, but some just hear it and it might not grab them. some get real technical and break the track down to its parts and don't like it, and some want you to conform to something that they want to hear.

anyway, i ain't saying i like it now because you're responding to posts, i just gave it more listens and i'm feeling it. i never look for certain things from artists, if i connect with the song and it sounds good to me than cool.

i'm excited to hear the rest of the album.

Rotating
Wilco - Live in Chicago
PUTS - Stepfather
Tool - 10,000 Days
Ohmega Watts - The Find
LB - Separate But Equal

"everybody gets hated on. a nigga on this board hated on me because I hated him for hatin" Darryl Reeves
44319, RE: Not feeling it at all
Posted by Power In Numbers, Tue May-16-06 02:14 PM
finally a song that actually has kamal in it. keyboards gotta make their way back into the music, kamal was missing on tipping point
44320, Saiiiight
Posted by jigga, Tue May-16-06 02:05 PM
44321, people that like it >>> people that dont like it
Posted by Von Pea, Tue May-16-06 02:09 PM
shit is a banger...folks must have forgot what a good new song sounds like


its fun with popular samples week!
http://www.myspace.com/vonpeamusic

The Red Giants are the shit.
44322, OR
Posted by analog2digital, Tue May-16-06 02:18 PM
people are just REALLY REALLY thirsty.

Kast and The Roots are a combined 0-2.

The sky is indeed falling, brother.
44323, you don't like that Kast? that shit bangs
Posted by temps2020, Tue May-16-06 03:07 PM

Rotating
Wilco - Live in Chicago
PUTS - Stepfather
Tool - 10,000 Days
Ohmega Watts - The Find
LB - Separate But Equal

"everybody gets hated on. a nigga on this board hated on me because I hated him for hatin" Darryl Reeves
44324, no way in heck! both singles are dope
Posted by Von Pea, Tue May-16-06 08:08 PM
i dont know what people are looking for but it seems like a lot of people dont like anything and i feel literally sorry for them...there is no lowered expectations going on...a good song is a good song. mighty o is just as good as i like the way you move and hey ya...and i remember people not liking those when they came out

as for this roots joint the shit is a jam




its fun with popular samples week!
http://www.myspace.com/vonpeamusic

The Red Giants are the shit.
44325, RE: people that like it >>> people that dont like it
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Tue May-16-06 02:19 PM
True! I think the roots fanbase is so diverse though that you will get all kinds of opinions. As for me though... Im Lovin' it (C) Mc Donalds!
44326, maybe it will grow on me, but i just don't like it
Posted by temps2020, Tue May-16-06 03:05 PM
i really don't think it is very good and anything new, anything that would catch my attention

Rotating
Wilco - Live in Chicago
PUTS - Stepfather
Tool - 10,000 Days
Ohmega Watts - The Find
LB - Separate But Equal

"everybody gets hated on. a nigga on this board hated on me because I hated him for hatin" Darryl Reeves
44327, After hours of listening to this song on repeat....I Likes Alot
Posted by jimi, Tue May-16-06 02:27 PM
i m a fan of the roots anyway so void
44328, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by noetik, Tue May-16-06 02:52 PM
Yo man i see you work for Bling47.com when is that Wajeed Vs. Marvin Gaye dropping i have snippets of the joints and that ish is hot to def!! Let me know the deal on that and doing some promo for you guys for sure.

Peace,
44329, hopefully pretty soon
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 03:18 PM
like mid-summer.

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44330, yep
Posted by wally, Tue May-16-06 03:15 PM
hotness.

asw
44331, The Lesson is feeling this more than OkayArtist
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 03:19 PM
its a sign of the apocalypse.

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44332, The Lesson is feeling this more than OkayArtist
Posted by INKtheZionCrewRep, Tue May-16-06 03:19 PM
its a sign of the apocalypse.

Kenny Fresh
www.Bling47.com

(by the way, my screenname's lame.)
44333, DAYUM! man, i'm likin this alot. i must admit....
Posted by jzilla, Tue May-16-06 03:29 PM
i wasn't expecting it to be this nice
44334, i luuugh the drums
Posted by Iltigo, Tue May-16-06 04:38 PM
dirty and extra loud

can't wait to hear this live. its so simple (instrumental wise) that i knwo they can freak the hell out of it.

and thoughts lyrics are as usual on point.

i can see the video already, but im not getting my hopes up.

the fellas don't really have good video karma que no?

i see them examining an ever changing world, tkaing things from the song literally. driving the messaage home. don't leave anythign for the viewer to figure out. star did that and people got confused.

but yeah i dig the song, and this makes me want to hear the rest of gt


________________________________________
return to your home citizens

madagascar titties- (c) phontiggalo the rap jiggalo

I would never, ever hit a woman....but i'll beat a bitch (c) wifey

http://www.myspace.com/iltigo
44335, damn...samples....those drums sound tight
Posted by Imokuede, Tue May-16-06 04:45 PM

______________________________

R.I.P. - The Curse

Let's hug it out bitch
www.lhiob.com

1918-2004

NEW ENGLAND...FUCK YEAH!!!
http://www.myspace.com/strongliketauro
44336, For me, this is like "break you off"
Posted by yoplay, Tue May-16-06 05:14 PM
I like it, but it's not hitting me hard. That's cool though, looking forward to hearing the rest of the album.
44337, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by LANSTARR, Tue May-16-06 05:17 PM
Raw beat. Catchy hook. BT is on point. Im feeling it
44338, i like this
Posted by ak618, Tue May-16-06 05:24 PM
it seems like there's something that could be added though, I like it a lot though, especially the breakdown
44339, The title is awfully ironic.
Posted by hideyaface, Tue May-16-06 05:36 PM
I love the Roots, but this song isn't catchy to me and doesn't make me want to buy the new album. I like it, though - but not enough to play more than once. I like the concept, it's the way it's executed that bothers me.
44340, i'm indifferent right now.
Posted by pimpinstein, Tue May-16-06 05:48 PM
its definitely not what i expected but that happens on every roots album. thought's lyrics are nice but nothing spectacular or different from the past. the chorus is meh. the beat is probably the highlight but its not spectacular either. its definitely listenable and definitely has me wanting to hear the rest of the album, but i can't say this song was a "banger" or anything. sorry ?uest.
44341, i'm liking it. all EXCEPT the part where
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 05:49 PM
she says it don't feelit can't feelit c'mo....

but when she starts with the "THINNNGS don't feel right ova here"..... it's cool.

shit sounds cool to me.

found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44342, Songs cool
Posted by Wendell, Tue May-16-06 05:50 PM
This site needs a media player like this for all these damn artists!!!
44343, Ohio Players
Posted by blam danks, Tue May-16-06 06:26 PM
is dope!
44344, This is very promising!
Posted by el_rey, Tue May-16-06 06:23 PM
Great track IMO. Remeber this is the first SINGLE, and so if the single sounds this good (read:raw hip-hop and not on some Don't Say Nuthin BET tip) the rest of the album won't dissapoint.

- Love the beat.
- Actually feeling Kamal's key line, and I been kinda down on his creativity lately.
- The sample stabs are a nice touch.
- The breakdown at 3:16 is beautiful.

This shit sounds from the heart, so I give props to the crew for putting this out first. It sounds like a gamble in terms of a single (not that radio-friendly, but since I don't listen to the radio I could care less), but I give respect for taking the risk and blessing us with something like this off the bat.
44345, RE: This is very promising!
Posted by makaveli, Tue May-16-06 07:25 PM
i like it, people love to bitch on this site...
44346, haters be gone
Posted by 1seeker, Tue May-16-06 07:24 PM
This track is nothing but pure fire.

Man I am seriosuly shocked people are hateing on it, from start to finish it bangs, the drums are ridicolus, the chourous is nice, great samples and the flow of BT is on point.

It all blends so nice, just transports you into the music.

I know we all got different tastes but serious, if your not feeling this I dont know, maybe its time to figure out if you really like hip-hop.

Just my 2 cents. Cant wait for the album. Big up ?uest and crew.
44347, ?uest is right....I want TRICKS!!!!
Posted by analog2digital, Tue May-16-06 07:45 PM
I'm not afraid to admit that.

I'm gettin old.

Thought At Work, Boom and Web are the last of the great Roots songs, imo.

Some rhyme-tastic, MC channeling, non-stop, boom-bap, TRICKS songs.

TRICKS are NOT for kids, in fact, they're for people slowing outgrowing the genre.

So to get my full praise, modern rap acts have to either

A) PERFECTLY capture a moment from the 80s/90s

B) Do something totally crazy but yet effective (B.O.B., The Cold Vein, Neptunes)

C) Have some kinda cool image. (Kanye/Clipse/Kast)

I've had an epiphany. This has nothing to do with the Roots.I even hat e that new Kast which I neverevavavavavavavav thought would happen. In fact most hip hop bores me. I have become Brainchild.

Damn, that felt great!
44348, i hope i never get like that!
Posted by Von Pea, Tue May-16-06 08:20 PM
not even trying to play you or whatever, but id hate to get to the point where a good "regular" hip hop song isnt good enough for me...i mean especially nowadays. is it just because its the roots and they are put on a pedistol? well when they gave people more tricks people dissed it (phrenology) and when they stripped it down people "eh"'d it (ttp) what is left to do but whatever the heck you want to do? (game theory...i hope)

if i was in that situation i would defintely do whatever i felt like and give up on trying to impress people if they keep letting you down...and thats when you've won...




its fun with popular samples week!
http://www.myspace.com/vonpeamusic

The Red Giants are the shit.
44349, It is absolutely because they're the Roots
Posted by analog2digital, Tue May-16-06 08:43 PM
and the same goes for Kast.

There may be something to ?uest's point that the palate of the populous has changed.

I think he took it a little far though, because it's not like I/we don't "recognize" good stuff when we hear it. (Which is what I think he was trying to say)

That's not it. It's that "regular" ain't regular no more. Regular's what's the radio.

And while groups like the Roots and Kast will always be my base (in that I know they really bring it), that base WILL get elevated in their absence.

It's a little counterintuitive, man. You'd think that after long periods of eating slop, you'd be THANKFUL for a hamburger with all the fixings. But instead, I, and a lot of people are like "What? No steak?" And if you give steak, then it doesn't matter, it'll keep escalating. They/I need a higher high, each time.


Kast actually took it higher and higher and crazier with each album. And the Roots too with a few miscues imo.

So at the current tally, I'm expecting some really expensive sushi from the Roots. And I got a fish sandwich. Good? Yes. Nutritious? Probably. But not what I had a taste for. And maybe that CAN be related to what's on the radio.

From Kast? I was expected an alien delicacy. And I got some bare bones track that didn't even sound finished. I'll take it, but not what I had a taste for.

Given this crazy mindstate that I (and other "supporters" hold), it's completely reasonable for them to do them and not pay us too much attention.

Cause at the end of the day, I'll buy the album. And I'll be at Radio City this weekend, lol.

44350, well
Posted by 15, Wed May-17-06 04:34 AM

if the world was that honest about themselves then i wouldn't have a problem.
my beef is cats that complain and have no clue that they drank a shitload of koolaid
only to think they are clearheaded.

drunk people dont wanna be reminded they are not in their right mind.

yall think i be crying modern day minstrel movement for my health?

mofos cant handled the truth sometimes.
44351, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by okhumboldt, Tue May-16-06 08:01 PM
this shit just made my day
44352, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by jwill, Tue May-16-06 09:12 PM
I really like the track and very looking forward to the new album.

Rich
44353, Thank you posting this
Posted by Oak27, Tue May-16-06 09:25 PM
And tahnk you to whoever posted the yousendit link!

Im loving the new track

Cant wait for the album
44354, LINK TO THE MP3 am i allowed to post this?
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 09:28 PM
if not, i'm sorry please delete

http://rapidshare.de/files/20610605/the_roots-dont_feel_right.mp3.html


found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44355, you're welcome you 92 bitches
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-16-06 11:04 PM

found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44356, Well I'm Bitch 93... and thank you
Posted by J_Bear29, Wed May-17-06 07:41 PM

Most people die with their music still locked up inside them.
-- Benjamin Disraeli

www.myspace.com/alma_29
44357, Well I'm Bitch 93... and thank you
Posted by J_Bear29, Wed May-17-06 07:42 PM

Most people die with their music still locked up inside them.
-- Benjamin Disraeli

www.myspace.com/alma_29
44358, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by GetSweptAway, Tue May-16-06 10:10 PM
aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssss
44359, this shit really really grows on you
Posted by ak618, Tue May-16-06 10:22 PM
great song
44360, before you judge this song
Posted by HighVoltage, Tue May-16-06 10:36 PM
please bump this shit in your car.

not you tiny piece of shit computer speakers.

cause i listened to it in the ride today and it fucking BANGS so much harder.
44361, well, my computer sounds alot more of a car system
Posted by 58impala, Wed May-17-06 07:01 PM
and my car sounds alot more like tiny computer speakers

btw... im using creative computer speakers and sub, and a stock system in the whip


but will do that anyways

44362, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by subsurfaceNC, Tue May-16-06 10:43 PM
I'm feeling this and the Kast joint.......plus anyone who can throw the correct medical name for Botox in their rhyme and it comes across tight gets props. I'm looking forward to the album.
44363, tough crowd
Posted by samiam61182, Wed May-17-06 12:02 AM


i love the fact quest jumps on for some rebuttal, noone has stated a remotely significant reason why this song is worth so much scorn. what direction as far as a group or artists are you looking for them to follow. for mine "The Roots" are one of a very exclusive group in which each album is followed by a superior piece of work. their songs are such that love at first sight rarely happens. they grow on you and for mine there last release continues to grow on me, their not bird bath depth songs you need some scuba gear for some of there shit. wait for the album i reckon the cliches are coming from the haters not the band, more raw hiphop, more tricks, too radio friendly, more dywm,tfp type songs these are cookie cutter excuses, if your still there the lovers love it far more than the haters hate it. keep it coming

ps (if there was 1 complaint its that there isnt enough of it)
44364, FUCK....i'm a little late, but this shit is
Posted by musikluva, Tue May-16-06 11:03 PM
OFF THE FUCKING HOOK...WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN THIS SHIT SOUNDS LIKE SHIT ON THE RADIO???...DAMN, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT MADE ME SMILE LIKE THIS FOR A LONG TIME...AND NO BITCHES I AIN'T DICK RIDDING...

for all of you who want to get technical let me say this, i really don't know shit about music other than listening to it...from that stand point, this is the shit...on some technical shit, y'all can argue amongst yourselfs...

damn, this shit knocking on some L7 solobareics with some nice mids and highs...damn...


Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
Tomorrow actually happend today but you planned for it yesterday.
Yesterday will soon be tomorrow so live your life today.
-Los
44365, some of yall....
Posted by billa, Tue May-16-06 11:17 PM
are buggin....

love this record...i'm really feelin the tone of the record and the umcompromised lyrics....

i liking this like volvo suv's...this is super work...understated by the raw sensibility of the track...it feels right to me....

i'm glad that there is a fair amount of hate...i don't like when we're all on one accord...it makes me feel like i'm loosin a step....

i'm now officially excited about what the game theory may bring to the table....

cheers!

ps. continue to support john legend
44366, how can you fuckers complain about this?
Posted by okaycomputer, Tue May-16-06 11:30 PM
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

_________________________________

rivers burn
and then run backwards
for her, that's enough
44367, for real at least play this with some real speakers if you are streaming
Posted by Menphyel7, Wed May-17-06 01:16 AM
this please shut the fuck up this shit bangs.

most of yall asking for an inbox and a link to the mp3 is in the thread lol.
44368, "yall n*ggas want the real get at me dog"(c)DMX
Posted by Drama Setter, Wed May-17-06 01:23 AM
I read every comment before listening to the new jawn.
The General sentiment that pops up a few times here and
there was sounds like some "filler" TTP type jawn.
It is documented and um Remix or scratch mag(one of them)
that their will be some tracks from the TTP sessions on GT.
When i first read that, I was like man no!! we folks deserve "fresh tracks"
not something imo that was not good enough to make the cut for TTP? What makes
them good enough to GT? With that said I dont know the creative process of
the legendary or even what the overall album will sound like but I will purchase
like I always have since I was um...... 19. Okay so I will be 30 this year and still hail
illadelph/halflife as one of my favorite albums period when it comes to hip-hop.
this album was lyrically surprioer and ill on production.
Im going off track but back to the single. I was first taken in by the sample
probably most famous flip by E double back in the day.
I like the song though I can't front BT is nice like the vibe of it.
on a side note I was at a recent Roots show Jean grae was like
where the 70's babys at "yayayayaWW"(from the crowd) then she say where the 80's
babys at? "awawawawawawawawWWWAWAWAWAWAWAWA!!!"(from the crowd)
WOW Roots fanbase has changed man I felt old and isolated lol. I gone support this album
and make a fair judgement with hardcopy inhand though its only fair.

peace.
44369, i think they're 're-using' tracks because the creative direction...
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Wed May-17-06 11:36 PM
of TTP got co-opted by the attraction of certain executives at Interscope with Don't Say Nuttin', so maybe, hopefully there are some tracks that were created that were really fresh, but simply didn't fit with the album.

I like the song well-enough, but i want to preface this by saying that i WILL buy the album on the day it's released, no doubt, so it's not like i'm not going to support the band.

* big exhale *

I think this is their best effort to take the 'mountain to muhammad'. it's a good song, it's straight forward, it's distinctive. i guess the best way to describe this song is 'effective' like he mentioned on the boards around the time TTP was about to drop.

It feels like I've listened to the band for the past 13 years, but I still don't know the band. When i heard the instrumentals on TTP (Melting Pot and Din Da Da) i thought the band had finally hit their stride, that they had found something different than what the average band could put together. kind of like a superband, but for hip-hop.

But that being said, i don't like the singles the group picks initially. and it takes the music a little while to grow on me before i actually 'get' it. if it sounds like i'm hating, i don't mean to and given what the band is up against (being on a new label, coming off an album that screwed with the band's psyche, being a near anachronism in their field) i think this is a solid song.

i was thinking that The Roots are as close to 'un-filtered' hip-hop as you can get. it's high-quality, well-thoughtout, and aesthetically pleasing. but that's the image that would work well to attract a music historian or someone new to music, i don't know what that means to the average hip-hop listener...

((( (( ( my rambling thoughts ) )) )))
44370, My Beef: Current live version
Posted by Troubled Spirits, Wed May-17-06 02:26 AM
the live version done last year and the studio version are both great to me...

but the currently performed live version using the NORE "Superthug" beat... yuck!!!

What was the deal with that choice? It sounds much better with those piano stabs they used to use when performing it with Maimouna...
44371, Sounds a lot like the hidden track off Phren
Posted by prophet j, Wed May-17-06 03:16 AM

- - - - -

jy
1974-2006

peace & love
44372, The Lesson likes this song a lot more than Artist
Posted by HighVoltage, Wed May-17-06 03:34 AM
and considering that this section has been labelled a place for dickriders... i dont know what the hell to think anymore.

44373, Good Job Roots
Posted by BarTek, Wed May-17-06 03:49 AM

@}-,-`-

He looks determined without being ruthless
Something heroic in this man, there's a courage about him
Doesn't look like a killer
Comes across so calm, acts like he has a dream
Full of passion
44374, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by kicksnarehats, Wed May-17-06 04:35 AM
i am fucking DOWN! My "fuck the haters" battery was just recharged. New shit to ride till die for yeaaaaa. The drums on this are different, I can't put my finger on it yet, but I wouldn't of guessed it was ?uest if i just heard it on the radio. You using different hi hats?
44375, on first listen
Posted by Eddy, Wed May-17-06 04:53 AM
its a dope track, seems like people will criticise whatever it sounds like
44376, The Drums are hot
Posted by fowler, Wed May-17-06 06:39 AM
I've listened to the track about 20 times already now and it really grows on u. Put it onto CD and listen on a full stereo and you will see the quality of the song. As a single I think its an excellent choice, should connect with black and white audiences of all ages.

The drums are quality! Glad its an organic sound.

When is single released??
44377, Great song!!! Loving it!!!
Posted by BarTek, Wed May-17-06 11:28 AM

@}-,-`-

He looks determined without being ruthless
Something heroic in this man, there's a courage about him
Doesn't look like a killer
Comes across so calm, acts like he has a dream
Full of passion
44378, Definatly a great track....
Posted by rawbreed, Wed May-17-06 12:39 PM
After all these albums I dont know what I expect in a lead off track from them. I mean, the song is great, but I dont think its gonna fly off for a new audience (the brainless 17-23 year old Def Jam audience).

So yeah, I hope it does good at radio, but I didnt get that wow factor
44379, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by dkos22, Wed May-17-06 02:34 PM
brought tears to my eyes - hope they keep it on that level.

peace.
44380, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by Jimmyuk, Wed May-17-06 03:27 PM
I like it, not bad, looking forward to the album
44381, It's a grower
Posted by Andrew595, Wed May-17-06 04:44 PM
Really feelin this. Like someone else said, give it 15-20 spins before you hate it. If Def Jam can get these cats some airplay and some time to saturate the market, I feel this single could really be successful. Sounds strange to say, but I could see some BEP-lovin' soccer moms gettin down to this alongside Roots fans who dig the TFA keys and dirty drums. Nice work and def their best first single since You Got Me.
44382, hold up..that negro said "filler from the ghetto superstar album". i'm thoo
Posted by lazyboi, Wed May-17-06 04:56 PM

found this ignorant colored ...paid him to tie a tail to his ass & run around half-naked, making monkey sounds....made him eat *bananas* Oh, how the white boys danced that night...& when we slit his throat, u know that fool asked us what he did wrong.
44383, The Drums are hot.
Posted by Tom and Jerry, Wed May-17-06 09:46 PM
I'm tired of hearing this females all over Roots albums, singing and doing some damn poetry
I thought it was like 6 niggas in this band
Drums are hot, I really don't care for Thought or that chick singing
Lil Wayne, Dre, Big Boi any nigga from the South would fucking kill this track

I give this song a B for Barnes and Nobles

Just not hard enough for first single off Def Jam
44384, No bass?
Posted by heiseman, Wed May-17-06 09:53 PM
Is it just me and these speakers, but I don't think I heard any bass. That's very interesting. Not necessarily a bad thing. I just don't think I've ever heard a hip hop song without bass that I remember. Even if it's minimil. But still, I like it. Thought definitely brings it. He's sounding hungry again. I thought he was a bit sloppy on some tipping point songs (esp. star). Looking forward to hearing more!
44385, Yo this is good fucking song props
Posted by Quills_N_Ink, Wed May-17-06 10:23 PM
Its got a real gritty East Coast feel to it.
Yes, I'm geeked!
Let's see what i play more this week--Don't Feel Right? Or Thing They Say (Meth ft. Lauryn)
44386, full single (link)
Posted by budz4zo, Thu May-18-06 12:33 AM
who wants it?

2 links for yall

http://www.sendspace.com/file/x4uzgm

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=02EB9C6217C09109

44387, BANGIN'!
Posted by ToeJam, Thu May-18-06 02:43 AM
ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill ill
44388, this song has a very full sound
Posted by ailicess, Thu May-18-06 03:55 AM
I like it no doubt
44389, RE: first single from Game Theory streaming on Giant Step's Jukebox
Posted by desmondo66, Fri May-19-06 03:00 PM
Hey now boys and girls - this sounds good to me - nice beat, nice hook fom Maimouna and nice piano - good choice for a first single

I have to say I am still expecting something heavier on GT.

Cheers

des
44390, what this song REALLY NEEDS
Posted by 58impala, Fri May-19-06 03:43 PM
http://needmorecowbell.ytmnd.com/