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el_rey
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65. "peace man"
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Tue Nov-22-05 10:57 PM by el_rey

  

          

I'm just speaking on some things that what you've said is making me think about. I'm glad we're having this discussion. I ain't trying to pass on any negativity, just build on knowledge that was passed down to me.

>My belief about everyone being an individual
>ain't come from any history lesson. I made that determination
>on my own because I find it to be truth in my eyes.

But because it is the truth in YOUR eyes doesn't make it the truth. MANY PEOPLE think differently and experience life through their experience as cultured beings ... as belonging to a community ... a collective. It is important to them and their survival, so when you say:

>If
>everyone TRULY believed that, none of this would even be in
>question.

that's not entirely true, because if everyone subscribed to your philosophy of individualism, you would be necessarily denying many people's experience and worldview. and since, like i said before, individualism is an ideology that came from Europe (whether or not you came to it "naturally" is irrelevant ... you were still influenced by the generaions of people thinking that individualism was the best way to look at things in this country), this denial of their culture can easily become a form of Eurocentric violence that is still commonly practiced by many white people.

>I don't even know much about any race's history,
>including my own.

Learning about these histories can only help us not repeat he mistakes of he past, to know where we came from, and how to better understand each other as we live together on this planet.

>I know about slavery and I damn sure don't
>agree with it. So how can you or anyone put me in the same
>distinction as the people that made this country up just
>because my skin is the same color as theirs?

I never said you were the same. I just said we are ALL living in a place that was formed by this history and the many cultural practices and social institutions that came out of it. We can't help what happened in the past, but we can seek to understand how it affects our lives today, both in how the world is run and how we ourselves act within the structures that were set up as a by-product of this history.

>It's like being
>mad at me for something that I didn't do... Doesn't make sense
>to me.

I ain't mad at you man.

>So all of this ideaology and Eurocentricsim or whatever
>they called is all irrelevant to me. They mean nothing.

Only because you don't allow them to mean anything to you. They certainly HAVE MEANING ... its up to you to make sense of it for your life, cuz it definitely is relevant.

>It's called the Global Beads class... And you get a different
>color bead for whatever race that person is... Then at the end
>they make you look at your beads and how diverse everything is
>in your life. And they ask you stuff like if you'd be willing
>to change to different people because of their race... THEY
>want you to become more diverse..

who is THEY? Why do you think they want your life to be more diverse?

>Does that have anything to do with why I wasn't hired for that
>job? I don't know, won't ever know, nor do I care...

what I wanna know is ...

what does this have to do with Lauren Hill wanting to kill her children because some deformed albino buys her album? TELL ME!













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Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics... [View all] , Soularson, Mon Nov-21-05 06:30 PM
 
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RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Nov 21st 2005
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RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Nov 21st 2005
2
Is there something wrong with reading Third World Press?
Nov 21st 2005
3
WE ALL THE SAME RACE
Nov 21st 2005
4
I don't disagree, nor did I say otherwise...
Nov 21st 2005
12
So, Lauryn has the right to say "I'd kill my children before letting a
Nov 21st 2005
5
RE: So, Lauryn has the right to say "I'd kill my children before letting...
Nov 21st 2005
10
RE: So, Lauryn has the right to say "I'd kill my children before letting...
Nov 21st 2005
11
RE: So, Lauryn has the right to say "I'd kill my children before letting...
Nov 30th 2005
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RE: So, Lauryn has the right to say "I'd kill my children before letting...
Nov 30th 2005
73
RE: So, Lauryn has the right to say "I'd kill my children before letting...
Nov 30th 2005
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      RE: So, Lauryn has the right to say "I'd kill my children before letting...
Dec 06th 2005
80
First, you've addressed NOTHING that I asked you...
Nov 21st 2005
15
No one KNOWS the source of the rumor.
Nov 22nd 2005
37
RE: First, you've addressed NOTHING that I asked you...
Nov 22nd 2005
39
RE: SHE NEVER SAID THAT IN HER LIIIIIFFFFFEEEE!
Nov 22nd 2005
44
RE: SHE NEVER SAID THAT IN HER LIIIIIFFFFFEEEE!
Nov 22nd 2005
45
RE: SHE NEVER SAID THAT IN HER LIIIIIFFFFFEEEE!
Nov 22nd 2005
60
"I don't care what she says...
Nov 29th 2005
69
re: socially agressive
Nov 22nd 2005
50
maybe . . .
Nov 30th 2005
71
RE: Is there something wrong with reading Third World Press?
Nov 21st 2005
9
I think its a combinations of both...
Nov 21st 2005
16
      RE: I think its a combinations of both...
Nov 21st 2005
24
RE: Is there something wrong with reading Third World Press?
Nov 22nd 2005
57
I think ya'll are lookin @ it too narrowly....
Nov 21st 2005
6
RE: I think ya'll are lookin @ it too narrowly....
Nov 21st 2005
8
      He means, "should I be saying all of this in public"...
Nov 22nd 2005
40
RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Nov 21st 2005
7
LOL!
Nov 21st 2005
17
*CLASSIC*
Nov 22nd 2005
38
woooooooooow
Nov 22nd 2005
51
RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Nov 21st 2005
13
I got a different question though...
Nov 21st 2005
14
      Why do you care?
Nov 21st 2005
18
      RE: Why do you care?
Nov 21st 2005
22
           Well of course....
Nov 21st 2005
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                RE: Well of course....
Nov 21st 2005
26
                     You know what?
Nov 21st 2005
28
                     None taken
Nov 21st 2005
30
                     RE: None taken
Nov 21st 2005
32
                          RE: None taken
Nov 21st 2005
34
                     RE: You know what?
Nov 21st 2005
35
                     ain't nothing wrong with your delivery
Nov 22nd 2005
53
                     i like you
Nov 22nd 2005
58
                     hi
Nov 22nd 2005
62
                          *shudder*
Nov 22nd 2005
63
                     RE: ain't nothing wrong with your delivery
Dec 02nd 2005
77
                     Peace man..
Dec 06th 2005
82
                     RE: You know what?
Nov 23rd 2005
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                          RE: You know what?
Nov 30th 2005
76
                          I should have been more clear...
Dec 06th 2005
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                     You know what?
Nov 21st 2005
29
      i hope you don't mean
Nov 21st 2005
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      RE: I got a different question though...
Nov 21st 2005
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      RE: I got a different question though...
Nov 21st 2005
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           RE: I got a different question though...
Nov 21st 2005
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                RE: I got a different question though...
Nov 21st 2005
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                Lol.. didn' t mean to get all cryptic on you...
Nov 21st 2005
33
                     That makes sense, I understand what you're saying now...
Nov 21st 2005
36
                          Hi NJ Dolphin
Nov 22nd 2005
55
                               RE: Hi NJ Dolphin
Nov 22nd 2005
59
                                    RE: Hi NJ Dolphin
Nov 22nd 2005
61
                                         RE: Hi NJ Dolphin
Nov 22nd 2005
64
                                             
On the topic of Ms. Hill
Nov 21st 2005
20
RE: On the topic of Ms. Hill
Nov 27th 2005
68
man, i hate these boards. when he says that about the mic being on
Nov 22nd 2005
41
just so y'all know...
Nov 22nd 2005
42
RE: the TRUTH about the RACIST tumors (DOWLOAD!!!!!!!!)
Nov 22nd 2005
43
Lauryn
Nov 22nd 2005
46
Did I ever SAY Lauryn Hill was a racist...
Nov 22nd 2005
47
this post is a joke
Nov 22nd 2005
48
p.s.
Nov 22nd 2005
49
RE: p.s.
Nov 22nd 2005
52
Isis Papers is dope
Nov 22nd 2005
54
RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Nov 22nd 2005
56
Donda West
Nov 22nd 2005
66
RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Nov 30th 2005
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Nov 30th 2005
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RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Dec 06th 2005
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RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Dec 06th 2005
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RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Dec 06th 2005
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      RE: Talib Kweli's Ms. Hill questionable lyrics...
Dec 08th 2005
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