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25. "actually the result of the sad state of music is in your coments"
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<P>>Keep in mind that in the <BR>>70s, the geniuses of the day, <BR>>Stevie and Marvin (and Prince in <BR>>the late 70s to modern day) <BR>>could pump out at least an <BR>>album a year, and most of <BR>>the ish was BRILLIANT. <P>not true at all. oh ye of limited knowledge. you picked the 2 figures that were notorious for making record label presidents pull their hair out.<P>stevie: SONGS IN THE... was held back for 2 and a half years. Berry was crying his eyes out. no one at motown was hittin like that $$$$. and when it did come out. the village voice panned it. rolling stone panned it. cream panned it. (yes, songs in the key of life) then money waits another 3 years and releases JOURNEY THROUGH THE SECRECT LIFE OF PLANTS he took an ass whippin for this one. now 3 years ain't shit. but then? shit was a lifetime. and when HOTTER THAN JULY came out (steve's true follow up to SONGS 4 YEARS MIND YOU).....critics havn't been impressed since innervisons. BUT OF COURSE THE PEOPLE SPOKE THROUGH TIME.<P>marvin: everyone knows that marvin was notorius for writers block (thus the mostly instrumental TROUBLE MAN, 2 LIVE RECORDS IN 2 YEARS, and all those instrumental passes on I WANT YOU.) not to mention david ritz himself (marvin biographer) says that all of HERE MY DEAR is freestyle. (sheeit just try reciting the words to "when did you stop loving me?" without fail. 6 minutes of madness!!!!!) <P>and prince?- PURPLE RAIN is his moment in the sun. no one gave a fuck about him til purple rain ("dirty mind is a classic!!!!" whatever, y'all know y'all discovered that shit in 85 after the movie came out.!) and then he churned out one mediocre record after another................(post sign that is)<P>so my point is....no one pleases everybody. personally these records made me into the person who i am today. but please don't go around blind thinkin that THE MASTERS went through the 70's unscathed just because the people ignored naysayers and made these records classics.<P>Does it <BR>>really take a true creative genius <BR>>five whole years to come up <BR>>with some good ish, and then <BR>>when it drops, for it to <BR>>be not THAT far removed from <BR>>its predecessor? <P>well you said marvin and steve were briliant. and you could easily mitch match innervisons, fullilingness, and songs. hands down.<P>now if you are saying that voodoo "sounds" like brown sugar.....well then i have to hear what kind of stereo system you got. (mind you i said <BR>"sounds" not "is better")i sure hear a difference. ain't no "smooth" on voodoo.<P>>The time spent waiting was used for <BR>>D to gloss magazine covers, and <BR>>have publicity articles heralding D as <BR>>the "Second Coming", when all we <BR>>wanted was a "second album"...eff the <BR>>G.D. hype!!! <P>well i now know who between you and me is in the industry and who is not.<P>voodoo was finished in august of 99. we spent 6 months waiting for lauryn to make up her mind....as for magazines...well....no one says "imma take a photo then i'll do "send it on" backrounds." sorry press starts once album is done. there are some exceptions however. one can take a photo and record at the same time.<P><P><BR>Real music doesn't require <BR>>all that hype artificial release dates <BR>>to build a big fan base....if <BR>>he is a real musical genius, <BR>>then it'll find an audience!<P>well. you sound disgruntled. hey that's you. as for me (or us) we never said anything about "king of soul" or we are the best. (however i wanna know.....what are the reqiurements of king in your book? i don't see the difference in "sweet little girl" or "poor abbey walsh" or "chicken grease" or "moviestar".........<P>who are you comparing this boy to? brian mcknight? ginuwine? case?......black thought? who money? <BR> <BR>>Now he faces the problem that the <BR>>expectations on the album were along <BR>>the lines of a "Songs In <BR>>The Key" meets "A Kind of <BR>>Blue" cum "Sign Of The Times"....and <BR>>it doesn't meet that hype. Although <BR>>I like the project, it surely <BR>>doesn't break any new musical ground <BR>>like expected. In a five <BR>>year wait, we could have gotten <BR>>three to five albums of similar <BR>>quality from him. <BR>>I don't feel ripped off, but I <BR>>do feel let down. <P><BR>well save the receipt and i hope your savior comes save you from the soul sky.....<BR>.....i don't know about y'all imma funk til then wit my boy<BR>THE SOULQUARIANS<BR>chewy (quest).....jan<BR>luke (d)........feb <BR>lando (jaydee)......feb<BR>cp30 (james poyser).....jan<BR>r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan<BR>hans (chaos)........jan<BR>anakin (lil mike)......feb<P>honorary members:<BR>kelo- soulacorn.......jan<BR>common- soulcies......march<BR>erykah- soulcies......feb<BR>

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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R U tired of defending VooDoo? [View all] , LeroyBumpkin, Sat Jan-29-00 09:48 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
My Thoughts On Defending Voodoo
Quinn
Jan 29th 2000
1
i had a discussion similar the other night
Jan 29th 2000
2
god i'm tired...so is he
Jan 29th 2000
3
      i'm lovin it...
Jan 29th 2000
4
      errr...
Jan 29th 2000
6
      that's peace!
Jan 31st 2000
17
      Non-Believer
Jan 31st 2000
19
same with jazzy's
Jan 29th 2000
5
James river, huh ?
Jan 30th 2000
7
GiveItUp
Snavon
Jan 30th 2000
8
That Angie Stone Joint
Jan 30th 2000
9
Reply! in OkayArtist Discussion
Jan 31st 2000
15
      black Diamond
Jan 31st 2000
18
           Black Diamond
Jan 31st 2000
20
Real vs Fake
nakeisha
Jan 30th 2000
10
TRUE STORY/how i defend
Kash2099
Jan 31st 2000
11
Oh yeah....you told me that story......EWWWW
Jan 31st 2000
12
Reply! in OkayArtist Discussion
Jan 31st 2000
13
Voodoo
valgirl_2000
Jan 31st 2000
14
i know how it is
novelty
Jan 31st 2000
16
      At The Risk of Sounding Like a Defector.....
Jan 31st 2000
21
      Wow...
Jan 31st 2000
23
     
           THANKS for the FACTS QUEST!!!!!
Jan 31st 2000
26
           I'm not going to get into a fight with you over this. It's only music.
Jan 31st 2000
28
           Let me see if I understand
Feb 01st 2000
32
           setting the facts STRAIGHT
Feb 01st 2000
41
           If you are in the industry...
Feb 01st 2000
42
           Quest....how you figure nobody cared about Prince?
Feb 01st 2000
38
                true dat
Feb 01st 2000
39
                     ha ha..no doubt..I forgot about those black panties
Feb 01st 2000
40
      Yella's View on &quot;Voodoo&quot;
shortybrown
Feb 05th 2000
58
My Contribution
iLL
Jan 31st 2000
22
Whats not to love?
Cherea10
Jan 31st 2000
24
i R not...
deejaydub
Jan 31st 2000
27
I stopped listening to the Radio About 5 Years Ago...
Jan 31st 2000
29
      well dj yella,
Jan 31st 2000
30
      Hey...plants need love too!
Feb 01st 2000
31
           okay so i win?
Feb 01st 2000
33
           What happen?
Feb 01st 2000
37
           hi, this is Alan Page...
Feb 01st 2000
43
                My Final Reply on This Subject...and Probably In This Forum.
Feb 02nd 2000
45
                     Yella's Final Post/Voodoo Drama
Feb 02nd 2000
46
                     other p.o.v's are definetly needed
Feb 03rd 2000
50
      oh, dear...
deejaydub
Feb 01st 2000
34
           Ok Peeps!!
Feb 01st 2000
35
D's always had Game...been in the Game
masterG
Feb 01st 2000
36
voodoo, etc.
Feb 02nd 2000
44
i heard that
masterG
Feb 02nd 2000
47
Re: To Big Worm
Feb 02nd 2000
48
Amen BigPerm!
Indygo
Feb 03rd 2000
52
Voo Doo by D'Angelo
Pookie
Feb 04th 2000
57
Defend the master? Why should we have to?
Excellent1
Feb 02nd 2000
49
Just for kicks...
Feb 03rd 2000
51
You're so right
Indygo
Feb 03rd 2000
53
D'Angelo New Release
blackbutterflye
Feb 03rd 2000
54
Aquarius or not...it's huge
abedog
Feb 03rd 2000
55
I feel you.....
Chelle
Feb 03rd 2000
56
R U tired of defending VooDoo?
DRKnLVLE1
Feb 07th 2000
59
Warning Will Robinson! Danger!
Feb 07th 2000
60

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