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Before I get the big backlash, I'm gonna save myself some "reply typing time" by asking everyone to read carefully before they reply. Hell, read it 2 or 3 times, then reply...here we go...<P>Here I was reading the liner notes on "Voodoo" thinking to myself "boy, this is really poetic". Till I got to the third page and read what to me was pure nonsense. The author (Nesta said it was Saul Williams) bust out with "is there any way to speak of that which is feminine without having masculinity right in the middle of it?". <P>Yo, I understand the play on words (woman with the word "man" within the word, female with "male" in the word), but wy immediate thought was still: "damn, dude is basically saying women can't exist without men. a quaint idea, in a chauvinist condescending way (the proper way to express the concept is "neither women nor men can exist without one another" rather than implying that one cannot speak of femininity w/o speaking of masculinity). <P>I was gonna let that slide though....till my man said this eye-popping phrase next: "Female. Woman. Unless, of course, these words came first and we later deriuved male and man from them. Somehow I doubt that." Now, why would he doubt that? I mean, at least he could have given his reasoning. as it stands, it looks like chauvinism, like "why would they name women first?" why not?<P>And the breakdown of "heart" to equal "he-art"? Huh?<P>Man, y'all know how deeply I look into words, right? (hence my usage of quotation when responding to posts). That two little sentences almost blew my whole vibe, in an otherwise excellently written set of liner notes.<P>Any thoughts? Read the liner notes, hit me back...<P>Peace,<P>Spirit<BR><a href="http://amphibians.iuma.com" target="_blank">http://amphibians.iuma.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://infiniteloop.iuma.com" target="_blank">http://infiniteloop.iuma.com<;/a><BR>DC hip-hop is on the rise...<P>"High grade when I create beats/if I don't get signed/I'ma be the most dope bum that ever walked the streets" - <BR>Aychell (HL, of Khemystery)<P>"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a tool of the conspiracy" - unknown

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Voodoo liner notes (chauvinism?) [View all] , spirit, Tue Feb-01-00 01:57 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
feel ya
elena
Feb 01st 2000
1
Never that...
Feb 02nd 2000
7
      So I contradict myself
elena
Feb 03rd 2000
8
I Saw It The Other Way Around
Quinn
Feb 01st 2000
2
Can't find my liner notes
Feb 01st 2000
3
      Saul is all about...
adamant
Feb 02nd 2000
4
           That's what I thought!
Feb 02nd 2000
5
Yeah, I thought the opposite as well
Feb 02nd 2000
6
I say.....
Feb 03rd 2000
9
ok naz if u want to put it thatta way
Feb 05th 2000
12
      LOL.....
Feb 05th 2000
13
      Dammmmmmnnnnnnn
Tha_Rula
Feb 07th 2000
16
           yep
Feb 08th 2000
19
well i hope y'all are right
Feb 04th 2000
10
anybody notice....
Feb 04th 2000
11
WORDS.....
SAVIR
Feb 05th 2000
14
Peace all
Feb 07th 2000
15
      Well actually.......
Feb 08th 2000
17
      faith
elena
Feb 08th 2000
18

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