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"This is why we have to have "school resource officers"..."


          

https://www.facebook.com/kayel.ellis/videos/10156094308525567/

And no its not the exact same situation as in SC but it illustrates the fact of the importance of a teacher maintaining order and discipline in the classroom by enforcing rules even for minor offenses such as pulling out a cell phone because once you start letting the "small" things go it can eventually escalate to the a situation like this really fast.

The young lady in SC obviously had some specific unfortunate personal issues going on that obviously everyone involved wasn't aware of at the time. But this is the type of stuff some educators have to deal with in school on a daily basis.

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This is why we have to have "school resource officers"... [View all] , ThaTruth, Mon Nov-02-15 11:54 AM
 
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This is why no one wants to hear both sides
Nov 02nd 2015
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so?
Nov 02nd 2015
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did someone argue that they weren't needed?
Nov 02nd 2015
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i did
Nov 02nd 2015
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      RE: i did
Nov 02nd 2015
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      One the fuzz would one cop in a school do about that?
Nov 02nd 2015
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      oh aiight
Nov 02nd 2015
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      lolz
Nov 02nd 2015
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You really wanna see a kid fucked up...
Nov 02nd 2015
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the one in the red t-shirt? yep
Nov 02nd 2015
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      the one in the red t-shirt? yep
Nov 02nd 2015
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Chicago
Nov 02nd 2015
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arresting the children will make it better.
Nov 02nd 2015
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arresting children for behaving like children will teach them
Nov 02nd 2015
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Yeah. Arrest that dude. Sometimes it ain't about making it better.
Nov 02nd 2015
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      arrest records make things harder to contain.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           So you are arguing don't arrest people ever?
Nov 02nd 2015
37
                IMO, arrest should be the last resort and only used where
Nov 02nd 2015
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                Why are there any posts after this one?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     b/c these ppl hate Black kids.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                cops should treat us like they treat rich white kids.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     ^ agreed.
Nov 02nd 2015
56
This nigga just described broken windows
Nov 02nd 2015
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ThaTruth bout to mess around and turn the tide on the discussion by
Nov 02nd 2015
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This might be a "special" class...
Nov 02nd 2015
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honestly I'm guessing she's probably a sub, or at least I'm hoping.
Nov 02nd 2015
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This video reinforces the notion that the SC school misused the SRO.
Nov 02nd 2015
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agreed.
Nov 02nd 2015
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Exactly.
Nov 02nd 2015
Thats nice and all but where do you teach at, what subjects? (c) ThaTrut...
Nov 02nd 2015
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RE: Thats nice and all but where do you teach at, what subjects? (c) Tha...
Nov 02nd 2015
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      how far down the rabbit hole does this go?
Nov 02nd 2015
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      there are different types of students in different types of classes in.....
Nov 02nd 2015
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           what kinds of students take which classes?
Nov 02nd 2015
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           RE: there are WHITE students in different types of classes in...
Nov 02nd 2015
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           Edit.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           Btw SoWhat it was nice how you ignored this part, lol:
Nov 02nd 2015
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                that means you WIN!
Nov 03rd 2015
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      :-(
Nov 02nd 2015
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awesome post
Nov 02nd 2015
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can anybody from that area speak to what that school is like?
Nov 02nd 2015
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RE: can anybody from that area speak to what that school is like?
Nov 02nd 2015
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That girl in SC didn't say or do anything and got abused.
Nov 02nd 2015
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that teacher probably still disapproves of what happened in SC
Nov 02nd 2015
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maybe i am being too hard on you jerks.
Nov 02nd 2015
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You can have resource officers and not have to arrest a child.
Nov 02nd 2015
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i just worked on
Nov 02nd 2015
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Somewhat agreed.
Nov 02nd 2015
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You are really arguing we should never put children in police custody?
Nov 02nd 2015
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arrest records have permanent consequences.
Nov 02nd 2015
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too often arresting a kid DOES mean this:
Nov 02nd 2015
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      I think the disagreement I have with y'all is seeing this as "acting out...
Nov 02nd 2015
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           'fuck that kid'
Nov 02nd 2015
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           Hey man if you are willing to put that work in and do all that, god bles...
Nov 02nd 2015
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           The fact that neither of us has the patience to work with that kid
Nov 02nd 2015
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                I don't disagree with you but my question is what should happen immediat...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     do what they do for rich white kids.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     that's a special education class.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           RE: 'fuck that kid'
Nov 02nd 2015
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                or maybe the kid has a mental health issue.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                sure but what about the misbehaved kids whose parents beat them?
Nov 02nd 2015
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           the kid in the red t-shit doesn't need to be arrested, he needs...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                he gets his ass beat and then what though?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     Teach him that there are consequences for his actions...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          how come rich white kids don't need this treatment from cops?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               Beat there ass too. Do this kid like they did this white boy.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                    yet rich white kids don't get arrested and jailed for bullshit.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                         yes they do. like i said 10% of the kids in my school had MIPS
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                         Dude, I say treat the white boys like the black people.
Nov 03rd 2015
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                                         both set of kids need intervention and correction
Nov 03rd 2015
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                                              so it's possible to correct kids w/o law enforcement?
Nov 03rd 2015
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juvenile records get expunged
Nov 02nd 2015
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that's what I was thinking
Nov 02nd 2015
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that's because you are a liar.
Nov 02nd 2015
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not necessarily.
Nov 02nd 2015
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it would for what was in the video
Nov 02nd 2015
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      not necessarily
Nov 02nd 2015
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           so possibly exposure for maybe 3-4 industries in a select # of states?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                like i said.... life long consequences.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                just think you are overstating the impact
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     they should treat our kids like they treat rich white kids.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     was this kid even arrested?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          i live in florida.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               wow florida had 12k classroom arrest last year?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                    RE: wow florida had 12k classroom arrest last year?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                    yes, mostly black kids.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     we don't know how a kid is going to turn out.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          Explain how a person becomes a lifetime criminal bc
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               no.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               he's confusing correlation with causation
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                    the black kids are inherently bad as children.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                         Don't forget absent and negligent Black parents.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                              which totally justifies black kids getting arrested...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                                   I didn't know all White kids were rich.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                                        poor white kids get fucked by police.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                sure.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     You think it shouldn't be?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          that's not what we're discussing here.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               It is and I say they shouldn't be more lenient
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                    great.
Nov 02nd 2015
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and they still have an arrest record.
Nov 02nd 2015
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      not true
Nov 02nd 2015
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      you are a liar.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           not true
Nov 02nd 2015
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      i caught charges as a minor and as an adult.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           in my experience ppl's juvie/adult records aren't expunged
Nov 02nd 2015
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                Your experience is with ppl back in court bc they're in trouble.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     and rich white kids did the same thing without getting arrested.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     great.
Nov 02nd 2015
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Nah every juvenile arrest record doesn't show up
Nov 02nd 2015
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no, you're being appropriate w/them.
Nov 02nd 2015
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meh, juvie records can usually be sealed or expunged
Nov 02nd 2015
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niggas are less likely to get this shit.
Nov 02nd 2015
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This is the rare occasion I ever talk about this, but...
Nov 02nd 2015
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      hmm.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           As far as Wayne County and Detroit is concerned, it never happened
Nov 02nd 2015
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                STEP?
Nov 02nd 2015
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RE: meh, juvie records can usually be sealed or expunged
Nov 02nd 2015
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      maybe it's your jurisdiction then...
Nov 02nd 2015
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           yea it's pretty common
Nov 02nd 2015
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           "have you ever entered a plea of guilty or no contest for a criminal cas...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                Guess what? You lie
Nov 02nd 2015
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                do they ask the question?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                where the fuck you live at???
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     Florida.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     huh?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          keep it in context though, SoWhat...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               he right.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           in my jurisdiction this doesn't happen.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 02nd 2015
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                right, so it's a difference in the jurisdiction.
Nov 02nd 2015
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if some "kid" did that to my wife, both our lives would be ruined
Nov 02nd 2015
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I was at a continuation school...
Nov 02nd 2015
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THIS here is why. The SC situation wasn't why
Nov 02nd 2015
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Mark Whalberg. Rich now. Arrested many times. Record has followed him
Nov 02nd 2015
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caron butler too
Nov 02nd 2015
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An arrest record ain't hurt a white guy who's brother was rich+famous?
Nov 02nd 2015
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Didn't hurt young Will Smith either, but for real I'm just stirring shit...
Nov 02nd 2015
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      you made your feelings on this clear already.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           #92. Sarcasm right? I take it feelings are your forte though yeah?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                k
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     ex fucking xactly.
Nov 02nd 2015
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In an industry where background checks aren't the norm.
Nov 02nd 2015
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      isn't awful pop rap the career most are aiming for these days? Or sports...
Nov 02nd 2015
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Gone from moving goal post to just welding new ones together
Nov 02nd 2015
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in this city here...aint no way in hell u couldn't have em
Nov 02nd 2015
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^^^^^
Nov 03rd 2015
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Wtf kind of young man threatens a woman like that tho? !
Nov 02nd 2015
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a mentally-ill one, perhaps.
Nov 02nd 2015
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Crack babies
Nov 02nd 2015
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      RE: Crack babies? You do know what the main ingredient in crack is...?
Nov 02nd 2015
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           uh....cocaine? lol
Nov 02nd 2015
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how come only white kids get to have mental health problems?
Nov 02nd 2015
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well, in fairness black kids don't have mental disorders.
Nov 02nd 2015
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Of course
Nov 02nd 2015
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that IS an special ed class, it seems.
Nov 02nd 2015
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would a rich white ppl's special ed class have more staff?
Nov 02nd 2015
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      black kids don't deserve what white kids get
Nov 02nd 2015
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           yup.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           Plus Black kids have lower IQ's and are incapable of keeping up
Nov 02nd 2015
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                the IQ test was developed by nazis to oppress minorities.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     I was just adding on to what SoWhat posted. He forgot to mention
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          k
Nov 02nd 2015
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It's possible the lady is in the wrong class.
Nov 02nd 2015
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i work in a school that is 97% black. your statement is not true.
Nov 02nd 2015
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how so?
Nov 02nd 2015
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it's not an assertion, it's in the DSMwhatevernumberwe'reonnow
Nov 02nd 2015
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      It's the stress of being poor
Nov 02nd 2015
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      There's been studies.
Nov 02nd 2015
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the question is moreso about how black dont recieve
Nov 02nd 2015
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Black misbehavior is criminalized more than white kids.
Nov 02nd 2015
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      i work in a school and this is pretty much what i do.
Nov 02nd 2015
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      true
Nov 02nd 2015
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Sounds like both are horrible problems
Nov 02nd 2015
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      i don't want cops interacting with kids.
Nov 02nd 2015
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EVEN IN THIS SITUATION
Nov 02nd 2015
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If he sees him running up to her with a chair?????? SHEEEEIT
Nov 02nd 2015
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I thought SROs became a thing after Columbine?
Nov 02nd 2015
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they did.
Nov 02nd 2015
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can we get SROs in movie theaters?
Nov 02nd 2015
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      they did not reduce school shootings, it seems.
Nov 02nd 2015
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RE: I thought SROs became a thing after Columbine?
Nov 02nd 2015
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what happens to a rich white kid if they disobey?
Nov 02nd 2015
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      We drug them up and let them walk around like zombies lol
Nov 02nd 2015
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           mental health treatment can and does work.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                I'm not disagreeing but how so? like how do we know it works?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     i'd talk about this in another post if you made it.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     k
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     especially on 'us' ? All kids have the same behavior issues right?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          but rich white kids don't get arrested.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          To me the reality seems to be as follows:
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               the criminal justice system doesn't fuck with rich ppl, mostly.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                    I'm not okay with it. I've always stated the black and poor are targets.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                         yet you seem okay with SRO harrassing poor black kids...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                              but I'm not and I stated that from the jump so what are we talking about...
Nov 02nd 2015
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                                                   cool.
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          the dx can be the same but the approach/treatment can differ
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               Why would the approach need to differ? What make us that different?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               i said can...not need...that goes for any illness
Nov 03rd 2015
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                                    People are the alternative treatment
Nov 03rd 2015
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                               No!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 02nd 2015
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pretty much.
Nov 02nd 2015
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Detroit had 'em since at least the 80's.
Nov 02nd 2015
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I'll reply to this video after I get off work...damn school firewalls
Nov 02nd 2015
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2 questions: 1) is the lady a substitute?
Nov 02nd 2015
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      video is from 2011...
Nov 03rd 2015
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Dear god I hate that "But why kids can get away with it" argument.
Nov 02nd 2015
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RE: parents
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They probably turrible too.
Nov 02nd 2015
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What is 'because they ain't shit' Alex
Nov 02nd 2015
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my dad used that argument to justify abusing me and my sister.
Nov 02nd 2015
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Yeah we are talking past each other.
Nov 02nd 2015
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      sure, buddy.
Nov 02nd 2015
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           Oh, when I say he deserves an ass whipping it has nothing to do
Nov 02nd 2015
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                k.
Nov 02nd 2015
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I don't think this is true AT ALL with some people in this poast.
Nov 03rd 2015
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I don't know how you go about making the world fairer w/o pointing out t...
Nov 03rd 2015
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      I think it's easy in this instance. The girl in SC was treated unfairly...
Nov 03rd 2015
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           I can dig it. though, post 161's vibe made it seem you'd have a
Nov 03rd 2015
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Something something something..... rich white kids
Nov 02nd 2015
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I'm almost certain that was an emotionally disturbed class
Nov 02nd 2015
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I had to stop watching. My heart rate shot up
Nov 02nd 2015
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This is what y'all asked for by removing prayer and corporal punishment
Nov 02nd 2015
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we want the same treatment other folks get.
Nov 02nd 2015
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^^This guy.
Nov 02nd 2015
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      The truth hurts.
Nov 03rd 2015
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           how would you know? the truth ain't in you.
Nov 03rd 2015
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                Not today.
Nov 03rd 2015
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This situation is 80% the teacher's fault
Nov 02nd 2015
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what would you're friend had done if a student refused to give their...
Nov 02nd 2015
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      This is my man Al's friend, the teacher
Nov 03rd 2015
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That nigga needed to be punched in his mouth.
Nov 02nd 2015
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the link died. is there another one?
Nov 03rd 2015
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RE: the link died. is there another one?
Nov 03rd 2015
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thanks. that kid is a fucking dickhead.
Nov 03rd 2015
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the video was shot in 2011...
Nov 03rd 2015
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Did not go to school in America
Nov 03rd 2015
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