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John Forte
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"Give me ONE good reason we shouldn't legalize ALL drugs"


          

I can think of exactly one, but it's not a good enough reason.

  

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Give me ONE good reason we shouldn't legalize ALL drugs [View all] , John Forte, Wed Nov-04-15 09:21 AM
 
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high quality drugs may end up out of reach of average consumer.
Nov 04th 2015
1
I can see you've already taken it back.
Nov 04th 2015
3
not sure if srs or trl
Nov 04th 2015
39
      have you tried reading it?
Nov 04th 2015
50
           jmmmmmm, yes but no, it didn't
Nov 04th 2015
92
Legalization would take drug MONEY out of disenfranchised communities
Nov 04th 2015
2
tax money collected from drug sales will be spent in disenfranchised
Nov 04th 2015
4
I like that idea, but I can't see the govt doing that
Nov 04th 2015
6
      it's already happening.
Nov 04th 2015
9
           Colorado also has TABOR: the Taxpayers "Bill of Rights"
Nov 04th 2015
17
It's a reasonable assertion.
Nov 04th 2015
16
Yeah, it is. By living in the hood they 'spent it in the hood'
Nov 04th 2015
28
      that cash is 'in the hood' now.
Nov 04th 2015
53
           The problem is the hood can always do worse
Nov 04th 2015
61
                RE: The problem is the hood can always do worse
Nov 04th 2015
63
                     it's not about wealth, but basic employment
Nov 04th 2015
69
                          a bunch of jobs at drug stores?
Nov 04th 2015
70
                          yah
Nov 04th 2015
134
                          this is a very optimistic view of capital society
Nov 05th 2015
141
                          public jobs are #1-schools, post office, firefighters, cops, etc
Nov 08th 2015
183
i'm thinking it'll also take the violence out of those same communities
Nov 04th 2015
21
Don't know the politics behind it, but wasn't Opium legal in China?
Nov 04th 2015
5
I don't see a similar chain of events happening in the U.S. over drugs.
Nov 04th 2015
7
true but just because you can't see it doesn't mean it can't happen
Nov 04th 2015
8
      Yeah, but it does mean I wouldn't consider that a good reason.
Nov 04th 2015
10
And for that, I don't blame China for executing drug-dealers.
Nov 07th 2015
175
what you gonna do with all the zombies in the street?
Nov 04th 2015
11
haha, we're talking about legalizing drugs, not the zombie invasion
Nov 04th 2015
12
Bathsalts and they're legal
Nov 04th 2015
13
shoot them in the face, obviously
Nov 04th 2015
66
i don't see how legalizing dope (heroin) would help
Nov 04th 2015
14
i see what you mean, but i think the argument for legalization is
Nov 04th 2015
15
like methadone?....they zombie's too...it's like the same minus
Nov 04th 2015
18
      That's not true.
Nov 04th 2015
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      i used to lived down the street from a meth clinic..i seen it 1st hand
Nov 04th 2015
22
           They're probably cheating.
Nov 04th 2015
26
                gotcha...makes sense...thx
Nov 04th 2015
32
      sure, if they're abusing it. same with saboxin (sp).
Nov 04th 2015
23
           you mean suboxone?
Nov 04th 2015
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                yes. i put the little (sp) thing there Haha.
Nov 04th 2015
33
It would help on a number of levels
Nov 04th 2015
25
I was gonna say something that i shouldn't say in regards
Nov 04th 2015
34
      side note:
Nov 04th 2015
40
           honestly...i look at everybody here like characters on a reaity
Nov 04th 2015
48
                that makes sense.
Nov 04th 2015
58
I saw this documentary some years back about a heroin clinic in Vancouve...
Nov 04th 2015
36
I'm being nit-picky.
Nov 04th 2015
43
what? google harm-reduction model and get back with me
Nov 04th 2015
73
      I'm well aware of the 'safety' aspect...I'm personally not
Nov 04th 2015
86
           it would also open the conversation and better educate people
Nov 04th 2015
88
                i think your 1st paragraph is relevant to the 80s maybe 90s
Nov 04th 2015
103
                I think lack of education is what's driving the pill epidemic
Nov 04th 2015
106
                shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit ....they know EXACTLY what's in it round here
Nov 04th 2015
109
                     I doubt that.
Nov 04th 2015
113
                          that doesn't mean they don't know what's in it
Nov 04th 2015
124
                i dunno.
Nov 04th 2015
108
                true to a certain extent...but best believe they know ALOT more
Nov 04th 2015
111
                     and they're full of misinfo about both. LOL
Nov 04th 2015
112
                i'd respectfully disagree, i dont see an honest convo happening
Nov 05th 2015
145
                i agree.
Nov 04th 2015
107
What definition of legalization are we using?
Nov 04th 2015
20
yes, like booze.
Nov 04th 2015
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lack of education on the real effects of not using moderation
Nov 04th 2015
27
Taking jobs out the hood.
Nov 04th 2015
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RE: Give me ONE good reason we shouldn't legalize ALL drugs
Nov 04th 2015
31
who they stickin up? CVS?
Nov 04th 2015
35
RE: who they stickin up? CVS?
Nov 04th 2015
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drug stores get stuck up for oxy all the time...
Nov 04th 2015
55
      uh, not so fast
Nov 07th 2015
180
That's a reasonable assertion.
Nov 04th 2015
38
      that's a different skill set. doing hand-to-hands on the corner is one t...
Nov 04th 2015
45
           not quite sure if I agree with this here
Nov 04th 2015
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This would be the hood...
Nov 04th 2015
41
Doesn't this article prove the opposite?
Nov 04th 2015
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      no. there's no prohibition here. it's a 5 minute drive away.
Nov 04th 2015
52
most people are trying drugs UNDER 21 so there would still
Nov 04th 2015
42
No.
Nov 04th 2015
46
probably true to a large degree but grey/black markets will exist
Nov 04th 2015
49
that's not legal. selling drugs to kids, college students is not legal ...
Nov 04th 2015
51
it would go from black market to tinted-grey market
Nov 04th 2015
64
      That would create a false sense of security
Nov 04th 2015
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      Not at all
Nov 04th 2015
89
           just because dare didn't work, doesn't mean
Nov 04th 2015
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                RE: just because dare didn't work, doesn't mean
Nov 05th 2015
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                     cartels will not fail. they'll sell heroin like they are in colorado
Nov 05th 2015
149
                          uh, it says ALL DRUGS, doens't it?
Nov 05th 2015
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                               It does and you really don't know what they would do
Nov 05th 2015
156
                                    Because this has never been tried lmao
Nov 05th 2015
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                                         see post 42. we know the black market doesn't go away
Nov 05th 2015
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                                              Is there a thriving black market for alcohol for underaged kids?
Nov 05th 2015
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                                                   no but there would be if it cost the same per ounce....
Nov 05th 2015
164
                                                   define "thriving," sounds pretty niche to me, compared with ...
Nov 05th 2015
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                                                        probably billions, one co alone put 1/2 billion fake wine out there
Nov 05th 2015
172
                                                             uh, do you not see the problem here?
Nov 07th 2015
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                                                   there is a thriving black market for cigarettes in new york.
Nov 05th 2015
173
                                                        you mean where they cost more than double the national average?
Nov 07th 2015
181
      ppl are still selling illegal mexican weed in colorado, so no.
Nov 04th 2015
123
           You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
Nov 04th 2015
140
           Nah. Its D-I-R-T cheap in Colorado
Nov 05th 2015
144
                doesn't matter. black market is still thriving.
Nov 05th 2015
151
                     the black market they're talking about is unlicensed local growers
Nov 05th 2015
153
                          doesn't matter, your safer, regulated drugs argument is null/void
Nov 05th 2015
155
                               I really can't help you at this point. Good luck.
Nov 05th 2015
157
                                    your help isn't needed. see post 42.
Nov 05th 2015
161
Legalizing is a no-brainer but HOW we do it is a big question
Nov 04th 2015
47
The ads would be ridiculous. *Remembers cigarette commercials*
Nov 04th 2015
54
      just pick up any local independent newspaper in Colorado
Nov 04th 2015
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           right but it should be limited to that, no hyping up of the product/habi...
Nov 04th 2015
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huge argument in favor of legalization: CUSTOMER SERVICE IMPROVEMENT.
Nov 04th 2015
56
to piggyback your point that partly depends on the availability of
Nov 04th 2015
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      yeah
Nov 04th 2015
60
some drugs can kill people.
Nov 04th 2015
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that assumes use would increase, which is ridiculous
Nov 04th 2015
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      It's worth asking and studying the effects of legalization on use rates
Nov 04th 2015
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      here are some old numbers:
Nov 04th 2015
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      well, where would you find data? here is what i can tell you
Nov 04th 2015
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      ask Portugal.
Nov 04th 2015
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           i am curious to go there and see what it's really like
Nov 04th 2015
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      use might not increase but it would be easier access for users
Nov 04th 2015
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           users use anyway; but we can stop arresting (poor) ppl for using.
Nov 04th 2015
119
Decriminalize some of them - yes
Nov 04th 2015
71
Portugal legalized (decriminalized?) all drugs several years ago.
Nov 04th 2015
72
Thank goodness I'm not Emporer
Nov 04th 2015
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      RE: Thank goodness I'm not Emporer
Nov 04th 2015
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           lmao
Nov 04th 2015
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           Did not know that
Nov 04th 2015
100
LMAO
Nov 04th 2015
126
I would argue that PCP (sherm/wet/butt naked/etc) should stay illegal
Nov 04th 2015
81
How, why is heroin or crack superior or safer?
Nov 04th 2015
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      have you seen what happens to folks on PCP?
Nov 04th 2015
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           Pcp myths debunked (links w/video):
Nov 04th 2015
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                enough arrests have been made of people high on PCP
Nov 04th 2015
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                     A Florida man ate a person's face while high on weed.
Nov 04th 2015
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                          that's the only thing they were able to detect
Nov 04th 2015
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                               Right.
Nov 04th 2015
120
BTW....not sure if you guys are aware....
Nov 04th 2015
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That's not legalizing all drugs. 99% of ppl smoke weed
Nov 04th 2015
85
Here he is.......
Nov 04th 2015
139
will negatively impact minority/poor communities
Nov 04th 2015
84
I forgot about that k2 shit too.... but yeah...i just said we got a
Nov 04th 2015
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yea ppl acted shocked by the way investors strongarmed the weed
Nov 04th 2015
93
addressing causes of drug use is also important
Nov 04th 2015
91
Does the K2 epidemic happen if legal pot is available?
Nov 04th 2015
94
you can get 6 blunts out of a $5 pack i heard.......so yes
Nov 04th 2015
97
      yes?
Nov 05th 2015
146
           there's no getting 6 blunts of cannabis for $5 though
Nov 05th 2015
150
                I mean is K2 "decent?"
Nov 05th 2015
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                my source is a k2 smoker who was being interviewed on reasons
Nov 05th 2015
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                doesn't matter, if you're on probation or are being drug tested
Nov 05th 2015
165
                     good point, actually forgot about that "benefit"
Nov 05th 2015
166
                     yup, which would no longer be the case if it were legal on a fed level
Nov 05th 2015
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                          no because some people are drug tested for their jobs like cops
Nov 05th 2015
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                               Wow, conceded that easily? Well I'll address your abrupt topic change
Nov 07th 2015
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                RE: there's no getting 6 blunts of cannabis for $5 though
Nov 07th 2015
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                     i looked up prices online and people were selling it for $4-$7 per gram
Nov 07th 2015
179
Kinda off topic
Nov 04th 2015
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^^ yup.
Nov 04th 2015
98
Poor ppl have easy access to illegal drugs at low cost now.
Nov 04th 2015
96
who are these ppl that don't use drugs that would use them if it was leg...
Nov 04th 2015
117
      lol. look at colorado. way more pppl are smoking weed now.
Nov 04th 2015
122
           1. That's weed though.
Nov 04th 2015
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           I agree with you with an important distinction.
Nov 04th 2015
128
           not to mention a generation of ppl would be coming up in an
Nov 04th 2015
135
Been to Amsterdam? The drug tolerance zones are shit holes.
Nov 04th 2015
110
Compared to current American ghettos?
Nov 04th 2015
116
this reads wrong...
Nov 04th 2015
129
Ever been to Detroit? Lived there?
Nov 04th 2015
132
      I said 'I don't really know'.
Nov 04th 2015
136
Portugal though:
Nov 04th 2015
121
That's compelling data. I still think there a difference between decrim...
Nov 04th 2015
127
They create a beacon/magnet for all the seediness, of course they suck
Nov 05th 2015
148
If it comes from earth = legal
Nov 04th 2015
130
everything comes from the earth though.
Nov 04th 2015
133
Yah.
Nov 04th 2015
137
take advantage, man. take advantage(c)
Nov 05th 2015
143
We shouldn't decriminalize all drugs because white kids are just now get...
Nov 04th 2015
131
The FBI is having problems finding programmers 'cause of weed
Nov 04th 2015
138
alcohol is legal... and coming to work drunk is frowned upon
Nov 05th 2015
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      Reasons:
Nov 05th 2015
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how do dipshits like this get jobs like this? (swipe)
Nov 05th 2015
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It's their livelyhood he's fighting for
Nov 05th 2015
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      oh i get the agenda. that's not really what concerns me.
Nov 05th 2015
169
           Agreed.
Nov 08th 2015
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