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Jakob Hellberg
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"Am I the only one bored with ''industry''-related discussions?"
Sat Apr-30-11 06:41 PM by Jakob Hellberg

          

I'm bored and drunk and my gf and baby are sleeping but basically, discussions about downloading and various formats and yada-yada seem to generate more interest than the actual *music*. I'm NOT saying these issues aren't important or that they won't affect the way we view music and yada-yada (they obviously do) but still, they are not really about the actual music, are they?

It says a lot about current music that the best way to get hundreds of responses is to make a post about these issues...

EDIT:And this is in no way a jab at dalecooper's highly informative thread on some of these issues which made it clear where a lot of lessonheads stand (I'm on the side of dale/AFKAP if anyone cares but I grew up on digging in the crates and is clearly out of the loop), just a general observation...

  
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Am I the only one bored with ''industry''-related discussions? [View all] , Jakob Hellberg, Sat Apr-30-11 06:38 PM
 
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I find those discussions kind of disheartening myself
Apr 30th 2011
1
they're fun until they go off the rails.
Apr 30th 2011
3
only when people are misinformed...
Apr 30th 2011
2
RE: No you're not. And I'm calling you out AFKAP.
Apr 30th 2011
4
Why are you calling me out specifically?
May 01st 2011
15
      RE: No, I was being sarcastic.
May 01st 2011
20
           Oh okay.
May 01st 2011
22
They're necessary.
Apr 30th 2011
5
RE: And even more of them are just trying to LOOK smart.
Apr 30th 2011
7
*yawn* That was not very useful and boring.
May 01st 2011
8
      RE: Substance! Alright!
May 01st 2011
9
           I'm interested in media in general and music is a part of that.
May 01st 2011
10
                RE: I guess the distinction then. . .
May 01st 2011
11
                     I don't know that it does. I think that we're both interested
May 01st 2011
12
                          I'm in general agreement with Firebrand I think.
May 01st 2011
18
                               You are totally oversimplifying and misrepresenting the argument here.
May 01st 2011
21
                                    It's like this:
May 01st 2011
25
                                    Again simplifying, though.
May 01st 2011
27
                                    but when we DO have these discussions, they go off the rails...
May 01st 2011
29
                                    Death? This is a REBIRTH!
May 01st 2011
44
No offense but this ''content'' shit...
May 01st 2011
13
      It doesn't really matter that you like it or not.
May 01st 2011
14
      eh... I've already gone back and forth with him on that shit.
May 01st 2011
16
           I think Jay Rosen and his attack on the caveweller idea
May 01st 2011
17
                Well, then I guess the bone of contention
May 01st 2011
23
                     I'm not sure that's what we're saying at all.
May 01st 2011
40
I don't mind when it's about the state of the industry overall
Apr 30th 2011
6
full disclosure I've been bored with this forum for a minute now
May 01st 2011
19
It's boring only when some insist on propping up the old model
May 01st 2011
24
let me ask you THIS:
May 01st 2011
28
Your whole post bored me.
May 01st 2011
30
      Of course it did. Good day to you.
May 01st 2011
31
           Literally NO ONE has posted exactly how to fix the industy.
May 01st 2011
32
                here's the problem.
May 01st 2011
33
                     Your perspective on the fans should encompass more than okp
May 01st 2011
35
                          fair enough.
May 01st 2011
45
and another thing. What's the "New Model"?
May 01st 2011
34
      Uh, the new model is free and a muthaf*ckin' t-shirt
May 01st 2011
37
      LOL
May 01st 2011
38
      hmmmm.
May 01st 2011
39
      Right now the answer is: There is no one model.
May 01st 2011
41
      but to some degree, most artists have the same goals...
May 01st 2011
43
           Those aren't specific goals and it'll be different
May 01st 2011
49
                that's what I said..."it varies by genre"...
May 01st 2011
50
                I think the best way to "save" music is to abandon
May 01st 2011
52
                although your adamant stance about music = free irks me...
May 02nd 2011
65
                     Man I'm just a journalist. I see what cats are doing
May 02nd 2011
74
      *double post*
May 01st 2011
42
      "number of hits on youtube/followers" is part of the new model
May 02nd 2011
62
      That can be part of it. And...
May 02nd 2011
64
      In the "New Model," the artist controls how far they go.
May 02nd 2011
73
ok, I have more time to comment further...
May 01st 2011
26
I completely agree with you
May 01st 2011
36
RE: Am I the only one bored with ''industry''-related discussions?
May 01st 2011
46
yes...and no.
May 01st 2011
48
RE: yes...and no.
May 01st 2011
54
RE: Am I the only one bored with ''industry''-related discussions?
May 01st 2011
53
      RE: Am I the only one bored with ''industry''-related discussions?
May 01st 2011
55
           Trust me...
May 01st 2011
56
           and neither does being a fan.
May 01st 2011
58
                You going after me?
May 02nd 2011
59
                     umm. no I'm not...so don't make shit personal.
May 02nd 2011
60
                          ethugging?
May 02nd 2011
61
           bingo.
May 01st 2011
57
I'm Never Tired Of Those ''Industry Related" Discussions
May 01st 2011
47
man this is on point
May 01st 2011
51
#musiccivilwar
May 02nd 2011
63
since it is called the music industry, i think industry posts are valid
May 02nd 2011
66
there's like a >10:1 ratio w/ music discussion vs industry posts
May 02nd 2011
67
Yes, but those posts seem to generate MUCH more indepth discussion...
May 02nd 2011
68
      here is where I would like to know OKP's age demographics
May 02nd 2011
71
           This is a great point
May 02nd 2011
72
Here's the thing
May 02nd 2011
69
^^^The new description for The Lesson^^^
May 02nd 2011
70
technology is more interesting than the artefact these days
May 03rd 2011
75

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