I'm on season 1...whooaa, acting makes Young the Restless
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http://25.media.tumblr.com/32e92c3194732fc5782d679491e417b0/tumblr_mgubcwcVTa1rlsck1o1_1280.png

Let me know now

I thought it was supposed to be great

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When they're not sitting around jerking themselves off thinking they are creating compelling drama by having ridiculously lengthy debates, and they just have shit happen and the story progress, it's a lot more fun. But I don't know if I would've made it through season 2 without the wickedly hilarious Videogum recaps. Check them out. It'll help you keep your sanity.

The action is pretty intense at times and drives the show. When they start taking themselves too seriously is when it fails. Whether or not you keep watching it depends on your expectations of the show. If you're looking for a good drama, don't bother watching any more.

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I just started it and it is WAAAAY better than I thought it would be. Kevin Spacey is incredible in this. I'm hooked.

Thanks

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I'll stop watching and move onto something else.

Too many other things deserve my attention

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But I agree with pretty much everything you said. The first half of S2 felt like it took forever.

Nothing ever touched the high of those first couple of episodes. It just became annoying characters sitting around, waiting, bitching at one another, and making head-scratching decisions. So many moments where a character stands up and says exactly how they're feeling at length instead of letting us observe how they feel by their behavior. Occasionally a cool zombie moment, but they're rare compared to the bland-to-obnoxious human moments, which are plentiful each hour.

I've watched a couple of eps since, when people have told me, "great moments this week!" and the action is all competent and enjoyably gory, but the writing in between those scenes is still cringe-inducing for me.

I've been told it gets better a number of times by various people, but at this point, the amount of work I'd need to do to get there doesn't seem worth it. Not when there are so many better TV shows and movies out there I could watch instead.

I think even for most of the show's fans (could be wrong here) that it's one of those where now they feel they need to stick it out, just for those occasional great moments, but they realize it's gonna be trying between those moments. Not unlike Dexter is for some, or the last couple of seasons of The Office.

I only watched the last few seasons because I had watched the previous six. I didn't really *want* to, but I had to.

It's the kind of show that usually has 5 minutes of greatness per episode. And when an episode doesn't deliver those 5 minutes, it's pretty much a complete waste of time.

But it's basically a soap opera for dudes so your Young and the Restless comparison isn't too far off.

>It's the kind of show that usually has 5 minutes of greatness
>per episode. And when an episode doesn't deliver those 5
>minutes, it's pretty much a complete waste of time.
>
>But it's basically a soap opera for dudes so your Young and
>the Restless comparison isn't too far off.

How did I get the impression that this was supposed to
be great storytelling? SMH

>How did I get the impression that this was supposed to
>be great storytelling? SMH

It's one reason that I'm stunned that more networks haven't done a zombie show. It really shouldn't be hard to match Walking Dead's quality or surpass it. It has its moments but it's pretty average (and often annoying) most of the time. There's almost always at least one character that fans can't stand (and not in a Marcia Gay Harden in The MIst intentional sort of way.)

I dunno what kind of show you guys were looking for, but this is a great horror show.

It's not supposed to be The Wire.
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It made boatloads of money, doggie no reason to be
mad

it was dogg doo though

Horrid, in fact

btw re: walking dead

Mad people came in here and supported my sentiment

I thought it was a supposed to be a gripping drama

Looks like its a shitty run of the mill zombie show whose
main attraction is the guts and shit

Good for it, I ain't about to watch that

I be reading books and shit B


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I'm happy with MOS and the money it made, so I'm good.

Far as books.. you ever get your audiobook game up?

>Far as books.. you ever get your audiobook game up?

o that was you?

Damn I feel bad calling you a stinky breath

you're a nice guy

nah, never did actually, but gonna refer back to
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>Damn I feel bad calling you a stinky breath

FOH. I fully expect the same sort of exchange the next time there's a difference of opinion that wide. Contrary to popular belief, I don't take this shit seriously like that, unless I say some shit to someone that's over a reasonable line of decency. It just wouldn't be the same.

>you're a nice guy
>
>nah, never did actually, but gonna refer back to
>that post soon

LOL, thanks man. I just came up on the whole Stephen King audio bibliography, as well as all the Jack Reacher and Left Behind books and god knows how many books in between. I've just got a wide variety man. I got a metric ton of shit if you ever want to get started. I have The God Delusion and The Case For God, which are great to read back to back. A lot of memoirs, true crime, economic and political joints, all types of shit.

it's worth it just to hear P reading these stories in his hard-ass monotone but then also some of the fun facts/stories:

-P's mom being a member of The Crystals (Da Doo Ron Run, And Then He Kissed Me)
-His father having him in the car with the engine running while he robbed a jewelry store
-Prodigy's struggles with bed-wetting at an early age
-P turning down a starring role on Broadway as a child that ended up going to Alfonso Riberio
-Emmanual Lewis coming over to his grandmom's house with his younger/normal-sized brother then showing off his breakdancing skills until P & his friend start pestering him about being Michael Jackson's boytoy
-Havoc accidentally shooting a Def Jam intern in their offices while waiting in the lounge for their meeting with Lyor Cohen then all of them running out of the office with their crew knocking over Run-DMC on the way out the stairs by the exit.

And that's just up to about age 14 so far that I've gotten.

Not to mention the comedic value in hearing Prodigy's literary turns of phrase like 'as we scampered by' or hearing Prodigy actually do other people's voices whenever quoting other people in the book.

His cop voice is worth the price of admission alone.

I've been dying off this shit for a minute, I'm not even halfway thru it but it's a winner.

how a show can have that much going for it in terms of an interesting network, cast n showrunner and fuck it up so gloriously is something to behold. i stuck it out for s1 but that finale was the last thing i ever saw. not worth the time.

V.

He's never seen from for the next 5 seasons or so, and there are other blacks who dont say jack shit. Then he re-appears and acts the shit out of an episode again then he's gone.

He's like a magical thespian Negroe that pops out of an Oscar with a kufi on it, then vanishes.

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for trying to jam in as many pretty people as possible

nobody really expects greatness from shows targeted to a female 18-34 (and younger) demo

Now explain to me why a GOTDAMN fucking zombie show is supposed to be high drama?

but when it constantly gets critical acclaim and people think it deserves golden globes/emmys, there is a much higher level of ability expected than in the nonsense the cw shows

- I came in with some shit that could have interpreted
as hate or snark

- Y'all interpreted it correctly, sniffed out the the
fact that I had a real question/concern

- Y'all addressed it squarely, some disagreeing, but
nobody being mad...backed up your thoughts, some even
providing alternatives

Well done


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i cant make it through more than a few eps


very repetitive and if its not parts where its going down then ive lost interest.

i might watch an ep here or there going forward


i need to go watch the wire

i bailed halfway through season 3

I liked/loved season one, even with its flaws

First half of season two was fucn awful, second half had good scenes and episodes, so I held tight

Season 3, fucn el, more horse shit with lil sprinkles of good

I'll lurk season 4's thread to see what's happening, but never again. Fuck that show

people love the shit out of this show though. i tried to give it a legit shot. whenever i lagged or got bored, everyone just said keep going because it's about to really pop off. i watched part one of the 3rd season, and just realized i'll probably never see why damn near everyone i know thinks it's top notch tv. it has its moments, i guess, but i'm good

season one is very patchy. season two is largely godawful. season three is much better than the first two - but still a bit shit.

i dunno. i watched it with a group of friends every monday and it's a fun group activity.

>i dunno. i watched it with a group of friends every monday and
>it's a fun group activity.

But I'm in a zoneout, trying to really dig deep into
a good, new series

Sounds like this ain't the one for that


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i'm out.
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people swear it's the best show on tv. it angers me.


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Walking Dead was on Heroes status until the third season brought it around a little bit. But even then it was as much annoying as it was entertaining.

I posted largely because I was confused...real spit
I didn't even plan on stopping when I made the post

I have given it up as consequence of this post, I trust
y'alls opinion

But I was just asking a question at first because
the acting was so horrifyingly bad that I thought I
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it's that rare combination of spectacular television that also happens to be wildly popular. it's easily the most watched and discussed show in PTP. but O_E throws up the hater bat signal, and suddenly everyone's too cool for school.

*slips and loses key*

>it's that rare combination of spectacular television that
>also happens to be wildly popular.

Lol

Its popular all right

Wish someone could tell me what's good about it

it's easily the most
>watched and discussed show in PTP. but O_E throws up the
>hater bat signal, and suddenly everyone's too cool for
>school.

If I was Longo or someone you'd have a point

People have talked bad about their momma on here just
to disagree with me

I'm easily the most disagreed with poster, probably
in the history of the boards

So if I came with some negativity, that was actually the
cue to come in and defend it...I was honestly looking for
someone to say something good about it, because I've already
wasted like 8 hours of my life...I'd prefer it be good so
that I can feel like those hours went to good use

Cats came in here not mad, listened to my point, gave their
honest take

You came in here mad, though

Good, now that my question been answered I can go back to
doing what I do best, that is, telling you how much you smell
like old hummus

We all could pretty much agree that we watch the show even though the acting sucks.

Wasn't this all common knowledge?

i'm out.
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oh, wait. the season 4 post will have 100 replies before the first episode even airs. what a sucky show this is that everyone can't stop watching and talking about.

>oh, wait. the season 4 post will have 100 replies before the
>first episode even airs. what a sucky show this is that
>everyone can't stop watching and talking about.

Don't know what happened to you, but you're not putting
on a good show

Go back to the drawing board, do something different and
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You're having sour grapes because somebody thinks your favorite show sucks. Then you got the nerve to pull out the popularity = quality card AS IF that's a foolproof notion.

2 And A Half Men had crazy ratings and I'm pretty sure that's one of the worst sitcoms of the past decade.

i'm out.
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in that triple platinum two and a half men post where everyone can't stop talking about oh wait.

meanwhile...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=30&topic_id=56590&mesg_id=56590&listing_type=search
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=30&topic_id=57966&mesg_id=57966&listing_type=search
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=30&topic_id=65205&mesg_id=65205&listing_type=search
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=30&topic_id=68903&mesg_id=68903&listing_type=search

That totally makes your point.

And a huge chunk of those replies sound like THEY WANT THE SHOW TO BE BETTER AND IT DOESN'T DELIVER.

It's like you don't get the point of relaying criticism in a public forum.

Your agenda weak as fuck, b.

they exist for shows that people can't stop talking about. don't get mad at me 'cause you can't grasp that simple concept. the fact that PTP's usual suspect low-self-esteem niggas are trying to get popular by hating on something that's popular is irrelevant. walking dead is awesome and you're mad about it. easily the most watched show on cable, easily the most talked about show in PTP. cry.

all you gotta do is tell me what you like about it,
why you think the acting isn't bad

really that simple

that's all i asked for


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hating on successful films and tv shows to win internet points is like the saddest life goal i can possibly think of. get your self-esteem up. do better.

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thought i was laughing at PTP's latest hater circle jerk.

You're the only one late to the party, pal.

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the wonderful wizard of pause.

.

stop proving my point for me.

Don't need to get upset about it.

A lot of it is the writing and pacing of the show, hence them replacing the showrunner.

it's not on Breaking Bad/The Wire/Sopranos level of acting at all, but it gets noticeably better to me.

I'll step out there and say season 3 is largely very solid acting/pacing/story-wise.
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the show/storyline gets a lil better and the bad acting becomes less noticeable.

but yeah, this show has become my guilty pleasure because the acting and story lines are *that* corny.

And even I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. It's kinda garbagey. I've never watched a show before in which I root for like 9 out of 10 characters to die every episode. Seriously, they're all terrible people who make terrible decisions and then have terrible conversations about those terrible decisions.

But I've read all the comics and am pretty invested in the world that Kirkman built. I enjoy seeing it play out on TV. And they do come through with a heater every 4 or 5 episodes. On a lazy Sunday night (or more likely Wednesday night when we've already seen everything good on the DVR), me and the girl can sit on the couch with a book, or playing a game on my phone or something and watch Walking Dead out of the corner of our eyes while snarking the shit out of it.

WHERE'S CARL? OH MY GOD, WHERE'S CARL? That shit never gets old to me. And at this point I can't stop until I've seen Andrea's I-just-smelled-a-fart-smirk get chewed off by a zombie.

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.

Wow that's perfect

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this place always shits on the show but the ep posts are hundreds of replies thick with strong like for the show

The four seasonwide posts (linked above) contain a HUGE chunk of people talking about how much they want the show to be better but they watch it again and again and again because there's a decent episode in there sometimes.

IkeMoses specifically said that the only character he likes is "crossbow dude": A character that wasn't even in the graphic novel. He was created for the show. You don't see much fandom for Dale or Rick or Andrea.

Of that whole cast, ONE character is likable for a majority of the series? Even the Governor seemed to be a bit middling at one point but David Morrissey seems to be doing a LOT with his character, which might be a testament to his talent rather than the writing staff.

Every one of those posts contain criticism of every kind. It's a shitty show that shouldn't be shitty.

That's why it's popular here.

i'm out.
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>The four seasonwide posts (linked above) contain a HUGE chunk
>of people talking about how much they want the show to be
>better but they watch it again and again and again because
>there's a decent episode in there sometimes.
>

which is no different than any other show discussed here


>IkeMoses specifically said that the only character he likes is
>"crossbow dude": A character that wasn't even in the graphic
>novel. He was created for the show. You don't see much fandom
>for Dale or Rick or Andrea.
>

That's Ike, not everyone feels the same way
in fact I know quite a few fans for each character


>Of that whole cast, ONE character is likable for a majority of
>the series? Even the Governor seemed to be a bit middling at
>one point but David Morrissey seems to be doing a LOT with his
>character, which might be a testament to his talent rather
>than the writing staff.
>

I don't agree with him carrying the character, he has been given a lot more to do than people ever considered to begin with and he's turned into something different altogether


>Every one of those posts contain criticism of every kind. It's
>a shitty show that shouldn't be shitty.
>
>That's why it's popular here.
>

it's a far from shitty show, it's just not what everybody wants all the time and that's not something I give a fuck about
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>
>which is no different than any other show discussed here
>
>

Actually it's quite different. The only other two shows that I can think of that get the "Come the fuck on" treatment here are Dexter and True Blood. Again two other shows that would be better if they didn't' make their plots so illogical and characters so goddamn unlikable.

Breaking Bad, Boardwalk, Burn Notice and Luther don't get such a heightened critical reaction in their posts because those are actually good shows.



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>Actually it's quite different. The only other two shows that I
>can think of that get the "Come the fuck on" treatment here
>are Dexter and True Blood. Again two other shows that would be
>better if they didn't' make their plots so illogical and
>characters so goddamn unlikable.
>

TWD is based on a comic, they're suuposed to be illogical if you think about them outside of the worlds they were created in
and saying 'nobody's likable' is an untrue blanket statement; Dale, Herschel, Carol, Maggie, Morgan...come on now
everything about that show works fine in the world Hickman created


>Breaking Bad, Boardwalk, Burn Notice and Luther don't get such
>a heightened critical reaction in their posts because those
>are actually good shows.
>
>

all of those shows have a lot of ridiculous shit happening in them, which is weird you say thatbecause they're more rooted in reality/real world shit than TWD so I'd think that sort of thing would be kept to a minimum
but I like all those shows listed, especially Boardwalk

>
>>Actually it's quite different. The only other two shows that
>I
>>can think of that get the "Come the fuck on" treatment here
>>are Dexter and True Blood. Again two other shows that would
>be
>>better if they didn't' make their plots so illogical and
>>characters so goddamn unlikable.
>>
>
>TWD is based on a comic, they're suuposed to be illogical if
>you think about them outside of the worlds they were created
>in
>and saying 'nobody's likable' is an untrue blanket statement;
>Dale, Herschel, Carol, Maggie, Morgan...come on now
>everything about that show works fine in the world Hickman
>created
>

The comic isn't illogical in the context of the characters created. And they were even likable even if you hate their guts because they had a clear, reasonable motive when you consider their personal histories. The TV show is nothing but. They manufacture drama where it isn't needed, stretch out boring plotlines with pointless dialogue about pointless actions that they do and they seem to mess up every storyline that isn't plucked and massaged from the books.

>
>>Breaking Bad, Boardwalk, Burn Notice and Luther don't get
>such
>>a heightened critical reaction in their posts because those
>>are actually good shows.
>>
>>
>
>all of those shows have a lot of ridiculous shit happening in
>them, which is weird you say thatbecause they're more rooted
>in reality/real world shit than TWD so I'd think that sort of
>thing would be kept to a minimum
>but I like all those shows listed, especially Boardwalk
>
>
>

They have ridiculous shit happening in them but they work in the context of the universe that is set up for you.

Example: The Wolverine 2 flick hinged on being able to pass DNA from one mutant to the other. Yeah it's a movie about a mutant with an indestructible skeleton and lizard woman. But we KNOW how DNA works. It can't be passed down. This is something that they threw in to create drama and a sense of danger on Wolvie's part.

That's lazy writing and it insults the intelligence of the audience even if the audience doesn't know they're being insulted.

TWD does that because they know people will tune in because DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA at any illogical cost. Then occasionally there will be a point where somebody comes up missing and maybe a really tense part shows up where a zombie appears.

It's lackluster.


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How do you objectively gauge acting ability? It's not like lighting or sound, where either you can see (or hear) what's happening in a scene or not. Whether someone convinces you that they are "expressing" real emotion that someone would feel in a given situation or not is wholly subjective. Even still, I'd be hard pressed to understand how, for example, someone could watch the episode where Rick runs into Morgan again and say that Rick or Morgan were "acting badly" in their scenes together.

Could someone point out an actual scene where they felt the acting was bad, so we can debate specifics?
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you're right, the acting is top-notch, often stunning. there are some weak links in the main cast, as with any show, but overall it's one of the strongest on television. but you may as well save that discussion for the season four post, 'cause this post here has nothing to do with walking dead and everything to do with niggas not getting enough hugs as children.