https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBKx8PyE5qQ


Seems pretty obvious that this team is never going to win a title. Coaching change was masturbatory at best. They don't have money to bring people in even with the cap going up. The three stars don't really play off each other and the bench is just average. This is 10 years too late for Richard Jefferson to be getting tick in the Finals.

So is he going to bolt on them? IMO it's not a question of if but when. What better year than now with so many teams having flexibility?

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It's funny because the first-time around Dan Gilbert played the insecure girlfriend by totally failing to chill and realize he had LeBron in hand for at least four and really more like seven years. He could have built around him the way Portland has or used him as a chip to lure FAs. Instead he tried to improve quickly and they never did a thorough job with the roster.

This time he continued playing the same role basically begging Bron to come back and saying he would do anything for him. The coaching change was an L. The Love trade, though hindsight is 20/20, was pretty much an L. Banking on veterans didn't net them the next Ray Allen, hell it didn't even net them the last Ray Allen.

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>He could have built around him the way
>Portland has or used him as a chip to lure FAs. Instead he
>tried to improve quickly and they never did a thorough job
>with the roster.

he could have not have, because the previous ownership screwed the team over with dumb-ass deals and drafting before he bought the team.

plus, once LeBron got going (much sooner than usual), it was essentially FA or GTFO because the lottery-stage of things wasn't happening.

a "Portland" situation wasn't going to happen, with the dumb fucks that ran the team before Gilbert's arrival. that failure is 90% on Gund/Pax

Gilbert's hand was forced when LeBron had ascended to one-man army status. sometimes the people who have the right intention can't get shit to go their way (see: Miami Heat in 2014)

the effort to lure FAs just fell flat. it's actually been better the second time around, but....

I hear what you are saying but they had time and options. They went in a clear direction and kept pushing in it. They kept trying to make these something-for-nothing deals to add a piece (e.g. Shaq). It was creative but not a substitute for a longer view.

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but GM Lebron will probably just trade everyone.

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And he seems like a guy who cares about that.

I think it's more likely he pushes for a Kyrie trade (with CP3 being the obvious target) and then they look to move Love for multiple people ala AB, Amir, Kelly (not that I'd want to give up Bradley for Love. That might be irrational but I love AB and think Kevin's been overrated for a long time.)

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i thought he'd surpass kobe but he has stalled. now steph might pass him. if he can go to another team and win 1-2 more titles it would look a lot better than rotting his 30's away in CLE. it gets more embarassing showing up every june to lose.

People who say well, all these other greats could have had more titles if they left and chased better teammates.

And if he went somewhere and DIDN'T win? It would be bonkers. Which is why he'd probably have to stay in the East and I'm not sure where he goes that is that much better off.

He HAS to bring a title to Cleveland. The rest of his career is all about that.

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not all of them...but I def. think he'll try to get CP3 there, somehow. I don't think he will leave Cleveland.

>not all of them...but I def. think he'll try to get CP3
>there, somehow. I don't think he will leave Cleveland.

Love might be the one moved
they might also ship out the other guards
and let CP3/Kyrie be what Delly and Kyrie are now

that way LeBron can be a PF

they'll need another forward though and those are scarce
(if they go after Harrison Barnes I'm gonna vomit having to root for that jabroni)

And I doubt Rivers is going to trade CP3 for Love unless they have a trade of Griffin for a PG.

Although that's another issue with Irving for CP3; I doubt Doc would want Kyrie. It would have to be a three team deal.

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meanwhile the smarter teams in the league
will follow the okc blueprint against gs
and try to assemble a roster of long athletic role players and defenders
to compliment their scoring stars.

Both teams are somewhat desperate to make a change, one wanting to get younger, one looking for a title now.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

he can basically NyQuil out the rest of his career.
came back when he could have kept losing in Miami under similar circumstances, decided to write his own story and gamble on an up and coming talent on a team with assets to spare.

gave his best years to Miami.
at this point, I'm truly not mad anymore.

he's about 93% back in the "Donovan McNabb" category of "you better not say a bad word about him" mode with me

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they not gettin past whatever team he's on.

old news

still carrying that torch for bean, i see

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is because people don't want to be honest bout Bron playing on Voltron teams beating up on shitty comp in the East.

Spurs killed off the Heat and GS is 2 games away from potentially starting a dynasty of their own.
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Yal nyggas simple


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Folk spoiled

Shame

He been great so long it's become mundane


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this has to be rough

but but but 6 str8 finals.. yeah and he's 2 games away from a 3peat of finals losses.. unless Bron is trying to win the Buffalo Bills award ain't shit good about this..


Mofos was so convinced when Bron & nem was running thru the Hawks.. lololololol


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put himself up there with the Bills


best case scenario for your boy at this point

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

And more to the point he doesn't play on a Detroit or Minnesota or some other up and comer, this team is not gonna get over the hump.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

That's wassup


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You think LeBron himself is satisfied with anything less than a title? Absolutely not. He is not getting one here. This thread isn't even about success or failure, it's about his goals and what he will do next. The fact that you are taking it that way says a lot to support the idea that getting your ass handed to you in the finals is not something to celebrate and you know it.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

I'm saying playing in June ain't a failure and for sure ain't reason to blow a team up or jump ship

Think about how stupid that sounds

A team that lost 2 whole games in the playoffs and muhfuggahs talkin about rebuilding lol

The warriors r probably the greatest team this decade and losing to them ain't some catastrophic failure

Not winning the east.. yea u can talk this dumb shyt

Bron straight

Of course he wants to win a ring

But yal sound like complete idiots saying he needs to jump ship or rebuild

It's good troll clowning material

But nothing that should be seriously considered unless ur a complete fukin idiot
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the dubs aren't going anywhere and they were one of three teams in the west that would beat cleveland in a seven-game series.

usually i am in the same camp you are but this is a unique situation. they lost two games all playoff against a series of first-round quality opponents. they did what they were clearly supposed to do and nothing else. they want to take the next step and this group ain't taking it.

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could beat anyone they face when they was up 2-0 to the raps?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

iight

But yea

Cavs play well and they winning

They don't and we got games 1&2


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I've always been of the opinion that it can't be good for team chemistry when you have the superstar usurping the role of the coach and even the GM at times.


Imagine Curry telling Bob Myers who and who not to sign in FA. THank god we don't have that in Oakland.



Everyone knows their role. Whether in the offense, defense, coming off the bench or player personnel.



Embodiment of a team.

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4 years ago Curry was considered injury-prone one-way player and some fans were mad that Monta was traded over him. Then Klay and Green came along and the rest is history.
But the point is, your boy never had this kind of sway early in his career. He couldn't mess with the front office decisions even if he wanted to. Yung Spice wasn't that kind of player back then. Hell, he couldn't even get a max contract, so...

thats the question


I don't see it happening.

Just enjoy the winning.

Don't attempt to drive an even bigger wedge between
he and Lebron. Steph's team is winning. Just live
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k got it thanks

>k got it thanks


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Every superstar player who has been "not like the others" eventually takes a more assertive role wrt coaching/FO moves when they're not winning rings. We haven't seen Steph be in a superstar position and not winning YET.

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he will push to get his money tho, bet on that.

and Steph is stuck to the dark ages?

He absolutely should.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Before then, he was just another excellent player.

You better believe that from now on, he will be consulted
on all front office moves.

Like when Curry shitted on his owners in public for
talking bad about Mark Jackson. He's earned the right
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lol you really see it going down that way?

If Steph doesn't trust his boss, he will.




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if he tried that shit



Bron wanted to leave Miami so he could play amateur toy GM in Cleveland



he got his way.. is it working?

So that's an L for you right there

Riley wouldn't "slap" a damn thing

Lebron just respected the Miami front office.

You're trying to make this narrative about Lebron being
a bossy nigger, and Steph being a nice negro. That isn't
it, so just let it go.


>he got his way.. is it working?

Back to back NBA Finals says it is working, actually.


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What is this narrative of Lebron wanting to be a bully
but being scared to do so in Miami? Lol. Just stop it.

What is wrong with you?

Just enjoy your good team.

You don't have to create a phantom Lebron narrative.


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>What is this narrative of Lebron wanting to be a bully
>but being scared to do so in Miami? Lol. Just stop it.


How was his initial relationship with Spo in Miami the first couple years? Fortunately, for Spo he had Riley backing him up. Otherwise Primabronna was going to try and get him fired just like he did to Blatt.




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>What is wrong with you?
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>Just enjoy your good team.
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>You don't have to create a phantom Lebron narrative.
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Oh, I'm enjoying every second of this. Especialyl seeing Lebron apologists cape for dude


My biggest concern now is trying to decide how early I should get to the parade this year. Hopefully it won't be too hot man. I need to buy a big farmer's hat -- already got super tanned in Maui last week

I fux with you sometimes, Skip.

LeBron should win GM of the Year retroactively.
Traded Wiggins.
Paid Tristan.
Fired Blatt.
Got clowned for every decision.
Championship!