Hakeem at his
>best was better, LeBron had a better career though.

that's what i'm saying.

Shaq and
>Duncan are his peers and both guys were more successful in
>more places. Moses was another guy that you got on your roster
>and right away you were in business, even if the rest of your
>team was suspect. Everything Dwight Howard should have been
>and more.

i can only put them ahead if i cancel out everything once the rings are counted. To me 4 MVPs and ruling a conference for the better part of a decade puts him in a category that these guys aren't in. Duncan is close but I don't think his personal accomplishments match up. Shaq has more rings but his prime wasn't quite as long as it should've been (the MVP count isn't 100% fair to him, I know).