6. "ppl 'living' in an idealized, (digitally?) simulated world." In response to Reply # 4 Mon Sep-14-09 11:06 AM by SoWhat
the reality is that the ppl are actually hooked into some machine/network and the 'life' they experience is being lived through their surrogates. som'n goes wrong w/the machine/program. folks experience 'death' via their surrogates that results in their actual death in the real world.
that's what i can make out from the trailer.
it reminds me of The Matrix in that the ppl in that movie had been tricked into thinking they lived in a real world but they were actually hooked into a big machine and were 'living' in an idealized, digitally created world. death worked similarly. ppl who 'died' in the Matrix also died in the real world.
I actually read the graphic novel it's based on so I'm filling in stuff the trailer isn't making clear, but if the movie is faithful to the graphic novel it really isn't like the matrix at all.
9. "i haven't read the graphic novel and i won't." In response to Reply # 8
once i heard the movie is based on a graphic novel (though i'd heard it's a comic book) i figured there must be more to it than what the trailers show. that's part of why i made this post.
the trailers haven't convinced me the movie is worth my time or money.
Darryl_Licke Member since Jun 06th 2002 70279 posts
Mon Sep-14-09 04:02 PM
10. "this is where you get it twisted." In response to Reply # 6
>it reminds me of The Matrix in that the ppl in that movie had >been tricked into thinking they lived in a real world but they >were actually hooked into a big machine and were 'living' in >an idealized, digitally created world. death worked >similarly. ppl who 'died' in the Matrix also died in the real >world. > >
no one is tricked into getting surrogates. Everyone willinging does it because your are effectively "safe" to do what ever you want from teh comfort of your own home. The Matrix was about freeing people and their minds from the enslavement of the machines in a world they thought was real.
Everyone in Surrogates lives in the real world...they just don't leave their houses.
so it's like OKP...only with better dialogue, bruce willis, and robots.
but there is nothing wrong with being odd. i mean you arent inkast or adwhizz odd. - VABestBBW Binlahab is a bitch. I wouldn't trust okp, some of them don't even get any anymore since the Re's stopped - Anonymous OKP
looked at the trailer again to make sure I'm not filling in stuff the trailer makes confusing, but the people in this movie don't live in a digital recreation of the world.
Darryl_Licke Member since Jun 06th 2002 70279 posts
Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 AM
14. "i think by digital he means the interaction." In response to Reply # 12
the more I talk about it the more this seems like veiled matrix hate.
but there is nothing wrong with being odd. i mean you arent inkast or adwhizz odd. - VABestBBW Binlahab is a bitch. I wouldn't trust okp, some of them don't even get any anymore since the Re's stopped - Anonymous OKP
5. "It feels like The Matrix meets The Stepford Wives" In response to Reply # 0
Not totally convinced, but on a slow weekend, maybe. I really woul dlike Bruce to win and get in a good movie, but it doens't look like this will be it.
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24. "The 1st 2 are certified Hoovers. The other two are debatable." In response to Reply # 20
>>>name ONE action flick STARRING BRUCE WILLIS in the last 20 >>>years that has SUCKED... > >>The Jackal
I can only recall some shiddy disguises from Bruce, a shiddy accent from Dick Gere & Diane Venora, & Jack Black gettin his arm blown off by a big ass gun. I forgot Sidney Poitier was even in it so yeah it's safe to say it sucked.
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As much as I love Monica Bellucci as a nurse & doin anything she can for the brothas, overall the movie was still lacking.
23. "I never saw Tron until maybe 2 ears ago." In response to Reply # 22
Which is kinda surprising considering I was prime demographic age when it first came out (10 y.o.)
It stank.
But still - take a look at this Wiki description of the Tron plot:
"Flynn is taken first to a holding pit, where he meets the Program Ram, and then is taken with a number of other Programs to meet Sark. Sark then informs everyone that they can either renounce their belief in the Users and join the MCP, or they will be forced to play games that result in their eventual elimination. Flynn eventually meets Tron (Alan's program), and he, Tron and Ram escape from the Light Cycle arena into the system, prompting Sark to send out his forces in pursuit. Eventually, a tank fires at the group, killing Ram and separating Flynn and Tron. While continuing to follow Tron, Flynn gradually discovers that as a User he possesses god-like powers within the computer dimension, enabling him to manipulate its 'physical' laws at will."
Apparently there was a movie called Brainstorm from 1983 that used a similar early approach to VR. Haven't seen that one.
And if you haven't read Neuromancer, it's worth a library loan even if you're not a big science fiction fan.
27. "RE: i couldn't follow the description." In response to Reply # 25
>lol
>i didn't see Tron but i wanted to b/c the graphics looked cool >in the trailers/commercials. i was maybe 6 when the movie >came out.
The graphics were the coolest thing and for the most part held up surprisingly well. The bike race is wicked.
Plotwise, what the above means: -people (users) get sucked into the computer -their digital avatars interact with a program that wants to dominate the users -users who expire in digital form expire
>i might be tricked into seeing the remake. mostly b/c the >graphics look cool. maybe i'll wait and rent/download/bootleg >it, instead.
It was a lot better than I anticipated. I didn't read the graphic novel so I wasn't too familiar with the story outside of what was on the commercials.
Darryl_Licke Member since Jun 06th 2002 70279 posts
Mon Sep-28-09 10:46 AM
49. "I'd recommend it if it was on USA and your other option was watching gol..." In response to Reply # 45
I want my fuckin money back.
but there is nothing wrong with being odd. i mean you arent inkast or adwhizz odd. - VABestBBW Binlahab is a bitch. I wouldn't trust okp, some of them don't even get any anymore since the Re's stopped - Anonymous OKP
53. "RE: I saw this last evening and..." In response to Reply # 45
I agree, that film was quite "meh". There was nothing wrong with it from a technical standpoint, but it just wasn't a very good story. I need to finish reading the graphic novel, I hope it's better than the film.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86673 posts
Sat Sep-26-09 11:32 PM
46. "I thought it was quite good." In response to Reply # 0
It was a really well-thought-out future world, with a history and all sorts of great details.
The plot itself was fine, fairly standard. The performances? Well, Bruce Willis does better at looking beat up than ANYONE. I liked the moments where we saw the human versions of the actors the best in terms of acting.
And with thrills... Jonathan Mostow creates tension as well as any big-name action director. When the girl throws a fucking parking meter at Bruce Willis? Shiiiiiit.
A solid 2.5-3 out of 4 stars. Worth seeing for sci-fi nerds.
47. "you cop pleas for a lot of shitty movies" In response to Reply # 46
note: I haven't actually seen this movie, but based on my estimated accuracy of the quality based on the trailers vs. your opinion having actually seen it, I'm going with my kneejerk reaction.
73. "RE: I thought it was quite good." In response to Reply # 46
>It was a really well-thought-out future world, with a history >and all sorts of great details.
are you fucking high? what details? there were. no. details.
> >The plot itself was fine, fairly standard. The performances? >Well, Bruce Willis does better at looking beat up than ANYONE. >I liked the moments where we saw the human versions of the >actors the best in terms of acting.
standard? that's a plea cop for NONEXISTENT. None of it makes any sense at all. none. no one does anything for any reasonable reason.
> >And with thrills... Jonathan Mostow creates tension as well as >any big-name action director. When the girl throws a fucking >parking meter at Bruce Willis? Shiiiiiit.
FUCK THAT.
there are no thrills, it's boring. a moment later when he shoots through the roof he does it as casually as you'd order food. so they have super strength and speed, but YOU ONLY SEE IT DURING THE ACTION SCENES
that's retarded.
> >A solid 2.5-3 out of 4 stars. Worth seeing for sci-fi nerds.
fuck you, and fuck everyone who thinks like you. this is a movie for idiots who are scared of technology becuase they don't know how it works, anyone with half a brain is wondering how this movie got greenlit with such serious problems.
it gets 0 stars and may god have mercy on your soul.
Darryl_Licke Member since Jun 06th 2002 70279 posts
Mon Sep-28-09 02:26 PM
52. "the matrix has holes and this shit makes it seem like shawshank" In response to Reply # 51
but there is nothing wrong with being odd. i mean you arent inkast or adwhizz odd. - VABestBBW Binlahab is a bitch. I wouldn't trust okp, some of them don't even get any anymore since the Re's stopped - Anonymous OKP
61. "apparently it's not." In response to Reply # 51
the 1st few times i saw the commercials for it i was reminded of The Matrix. thus, this post. folks in here explained it to me such that i now understand the movie isn't so much like The Matrix.
67. "Ha Ha this movie sucked so hard" In response to Reply # 0
I actually was quite entertained because I was laughing at all the fail in this movie.
Dumb ass story, shitty acting, horrible make -up\, etc...
Anyone else, could you take Ving Rhames character serious? that shit had me rolling.
Had to watch this movie btw, flipped a coin between this and cloudy with a chance of meatballs even tho I URGED the homies to watch it but they were all "Nah man I cant be watching a a kids movie"...
68. "ye this was pretty bad" In response to Reply # 0
my main motivation for seein it was cos Bruce had hair lol. the rest of it was pretty predictable, parts of it were cliched, other parts were just badly badly acted.
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