BrooklynWHAT Member since Jun 15th 2007 85076 posts
Wed Jul-11-18 08:33 AM
5. "RE: 4 shows a week, and they film 2+ hrs a day <- that's it?" In response to Reply # 2
Vice should've cut the check (cause i damn sure watch a lot less of Vice now that the show aint on) but it has to be more than 2 hrs of work per day to get the show poppin.
3. "They weren't upset about 160 shows...." In response to Reply # 0 Tue Jul-10-18 09:19 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik
They were upset at 160 shows at whatever Vice was offering to pay them.
You're trying to make it look like a work ethic/laziness kind of thing ("only 3 shows a week") when it's really a money thing. I bet if Vice upped the pay enough, they'd be willing to do 4-5-6 shows a week
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jul-10-18 09:39 PM
4. "That’s a lot of shows. " In response to Reply # 0
and it’s not like they are a band doing the same songs.
Fuck you, pay me is the motto. Vice gave them a shot and they crushed it.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
I married into a Entertainment Industry family so I hear all the ends and outs. My Bro-Law tells about stuff al the time when he's working on Big Brother.
sometimes u gotta leave ur inner nigger in the bank vault. - desus
"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
16. "That is an INSANE amount of work. " In response to Reply # 0
Do you think they show up and just rant into cameras for 21 minutes and that’s a show?
Late night shows are 4 nights a week, but the hosts are some of the highest paid on TV. I’d venture to say Viceland isn’t paying what NBC is. But they’ve also got huge staffs, large writers rooms, etc and that is STILL an incredibly hard job that’s broken many a person.
D&M’s magic is that they are “effortlessly” funny - but most people don’t realize how much work it is to make it seem like they’re just showing up and talking. As low fi as the show is - it’s still 12+ hour days to make each episode, not to mention all the ancillary stuff (tours, talk shows, interviews, etc) to keep the brand strong.
The moral here is that TV shows are an immense amount of work and the day doesn’t end when the cameras turn off. 160 shows a year is insane - worse when you figure they’re making a fraction of what they just got from Showtime
That's an insane task and they were right to not want to keep doing it for a company notorious for a company culture that (among other things) emphasizes paying people as little as you can for as much work as you can get from them.
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25. "probably your dumbest post on OKP. definitely top 3. " In response to Reply # 0
the main point to take out of that article was this:
they network is so reliant on them that they are telling them they can't take time off because if they do the network ratings dip too far.
ANYTIME a job is telling you you're so valuable that you can't get time off? it's time to go have that value realized, because you're current employer isn't doing that.
this isn't even taking into account other issues going on at Vice.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Wed Jul-11-18 11:23 AM
35. "POST JACK: You still taking photo's? " In response to Reply # 0
post more photos and less NOT TAKES
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
36. "sounds like viceland thought they were owed something for" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jul-11-18 11:57 AM by T Reynolds
putting them out there?
real petty
They got plenty of other content not sure what they were bitter about
Also with an emphasis hopefully at Showtime on quality over quantity, I know desus joke-writing can shine. Both these guys would be better served long-term career-wise with a chance to prepare their content more and get beyond the two guys in the living room box. Plus I sense a real potential for emotional range and depth from Mero, dead ass, son.
and shoulda collapsed even earlier, when everybody found out shane is a billionaire and the entire rest of the company lives off protein bars and grabbing the female writers' nipples
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38. "which makes me sad and feel kinda weird about things" In response to Reply # 37
because vice...the old vice, the old vice of Dos and Don'ts fame is what shaped my worldview as a late teen/early 20s year old man
I've been sad seeing what in the fuck it is Gavin became when he left
I feel weird seeing what Vice has become and knowing that the old version of itself is an echo of an echo. It went from shaping hipster culture in the early 00s to trying to maintain a hipster edge while being Vox lite.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Wed Jul-11-18 07:27 PM
40. "Every person wants to be rich. " In response to Reply # 39
and most hipsters or progressives will become the rich assholes they swore they would never be once they make it.
Especially once they see those taxes taking their wealth.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
46. "If you looked real close at '99 era Vice there was problematic shit" In response to Reply # 38 Thu Jul-12-18 07:37 AM by T Reynolds
in the shadows for sure though
And after reading the type of comments I would see on the website (particularly in a Do's and Don'ts that somebody I knew was featured in as a Do) it helped me put together who their demographic was
48. "Exactly. All those things" In response to Reply # 47
>they kinda lead the charge with ironic racism, sexism, >columbusing, etc all under the guise of edginess > >which is why I think the vice of today took a look at the >writing on the wall and realized shit had to change or die. > >edit: Yo, didnt' Mero used to write for them as a record >reviewer?!
52. "This is a treasure trove" In response to Reply # 48
The Guided By voices review: "I JUST GOT DEPRESSED BECAUSE IN A FEW DECADES FROM NOW I'LL HAVE A GROSS SOGGY OLD MAN DICK. FUCK IT I'LL JUST START A BAND AND CALL MY ALBUM "ACERBIC DUCK NOVELS""
44. "They seem cheap AF which is sad" In response to Reply # 37
Desus & Mero, gone to a better deal. Bong Appetit might be done for, too. At least "FUCK, THAT'S DELICIOUS" is back for another season. On the website side they also cheap out, like Vice Sports cut all its stringer budget and now overworks their staffers like crazy. A lot of the shit could be *so* much better if they didn't skimp so much on it. Some of the hosts seem like college kids who did it for a Luna bar and a bus ticket.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
43. ""Only" three shows a week?" In response to Reply # 0
It's four shows with weeks off as you know, but that seems like a lot to me, man. They were the whole f'ing show (c) Rob Van Damme, basically had two or three crew members, no writers. Sounds like mad work to me. I hate that Viceland spited them and robbed us of another 30-ish shows. This makes sense though because the finale was mad slapped together, it was like TUNE IN TOMORROW ... OH YEAH SHIT'S OVER, HIT THIS BOTTLE AND SAY G'BYE, EL PRESIDENTE!!!
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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