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Trinity444
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"A Handmaid's Tale..."


  

          

anyone watching this?
Wednesday's on Hulu
Canada is heaven and there's no more United States...

I can't imagine living in complete submission of a government. thank God I'm old...they can't use me, lol. really tho, it got me thinking if I would have the guts to live through such circumstances. I don't think I would...like, I'll be trying everything to get killed.

just keeping it real



  

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are you up to date?? I have feeling next episode will be most heartbreak...
Jul 01st 2018
1
that damn garage door..... ugghhhhh
Jul 01st 2018
2
that wolf must have had a nice big meal recently...
Jul 02nd 2018
12
      lol. same. same.
Jul 02nd 2018
18
I thought I replied to you in #3
Jul 03rd 2018
27
yes...
Jul 01st 2018
3
My MIL is watching this
Jul 01st 2018
4
shit is heavy
Jul 02nd 2018
5
Is this like New Slavery: The Movie?
Jul 02nd 2018
6
It's like if Scientology overthrew the government
Jul 02nd 2018
7
      Nah, it’s more white Evangelical fundamentalists
Jul 02nd 2018
8
           I actually typed Evangelical but backspaced
Jul 02nd 2018
9
                I hear ya.
Jul 02nd 2018
10
                Christians?
Jul 02nd 2018
11
                nothing's happening in Gilead that Christians haven't pulled before
Jul 04th 2018
31
Under his eye
Jul 02nd 2018
13
May the Lord open
Jul 02nd 2018
14
      Blessed be
Jul 02nd 2018
15
Aunt Lydia may be the craziest character on the show
Jul 02nd 2018
16
Aunt Lydia?
Jul 02nd 2018
17
      She's the wicked stepmother that trains these women
Jul 02nd 2018
19
           Man, when she cried before ringing the bell
Jul 03rd 2018
20
                I think she really believes
Jul 03rd 2018
22
                     It’s weird...
Jul 03rd 2018
28
                          She was probably powerless in the old society now she has power
Jul 06th 2018
42
I'm glad it's once a week and not bingeable
Jul 03rd 2018
21
I watch on the stick but gave up this season
Jul 03rd 2018
24
Man, this show is so oppressive, I feel like it's suffocating me
Jul 03rd 2018
23
That aerial shot of the funeral...ooh boy, brilliant!
Jul 03rd 2018
25
on my list.. not yet started tho.
Jul 03rd 2018
26
I didn't care for the season finale
Jul 04th 2018
29
If I'm not misaken
Jul 05th 2018
32
      Yeah I watched episode 12, I thought that was it
Jul 05th 2018
33
           There is a 13th episode. I've seen the trailer.
Jul 05th 2018
34
           what did you think of last night?
Jul 05th 2018
37
                that ending made no sense
Jul 05th 2018
38
                     if gilead is governed by biblical principles...
Jul 05th 2018
39
i don't understand how the eden plot fits into gilead at all
Jul 04th 2018
30
Eden Represented all of the ideals of Gilead ***Spoilers****
Jul 06th 2018
40
*The* It's "The Handmaid's Tale"...
Jul 05th 2018
35
it’s cool...
Jul 05th 2018
36
      I hear ya. Respect.
Jul 06th 2018
43
I don't understand how they can exist without propaganda
Jul 06th 2018
41
was their media or symbols when it came to slavery?
Jul 06th 2018
44
how did Gilead come into existence?
Jul 06th 2018
45
      RE: how did Gilead come into existence?
Jul 06th 2018
46
           They talk about it vaguely and briefly in some episodes
Jul 11th 2018
49
Hell of an episode to end the season
Jul 11th 2018
47
yeah. don’t say anything lol
Jul 11th 2018
48
I knew once she looked at the pic of her first daughter...
Jul 11th 2018
50
How is she going to get Hannah back?
Jul 12th 2018
51
They feel the need to stay in Gilead for Season 3 for some reason.
Jul 12th 2018
52
that's what causes revolt tho...
Jul 12th 2018
56
they always leave moira dangling too.
Jul 12th 2018
57
I believe June becomes the matriarch...
Jul 12th 2018
55
RE: I knew once she looked at the pic of her first daughter...
Jul 12th 2018
53
See, Emily (Don't) Play.
Jul 12th 2018
54
Marthas are the Underground Railroad
Jul 13th 2018
58
Has anyone read the book?
Jul 13th 2018
59
If you are a fan of the show
Jul 13th 2018
60
      I remember seeing her name in the credits
Jul 13th 2018
61
      thank you...
Jul 13th 2018
62

mellowboogie
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1. "are you up to date?? I have feeling next episode will be most heartbreak..."
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yet

Not sure I can bare it

'Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. ~Victor Hugo'

  

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2. "that damn garage door..... ugghhhhh"
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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12. "that wolf must have had a nice big meal recently..."
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....because I thought June was DINNER a few times!


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18. "lol. same. same."
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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27. "I thought I replied to you in #3"
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My bad...

yes I’m caught up.

  

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3. "yes..."
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I think something going to happen to the Waterford’s. I’m still not sure if he knows he’s not really the father...

  

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4. "My MIL is watching this "
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5. "shit is heavy"
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I watched the first season and the first few episodes but had to take a break.

Show is so good but gotdamn... I can't watch this right now with all that is going on in the world.

shut up already, damn

  

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6. "Is this like New Slavery: The Movie?"
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>I can't imagine living in complete submission of a government.

Haven't watched it, obviously.

  

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7. "It's like if Scientology overthrew the government"
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shut up already, damn

  

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8. "Nah, it’s more white Evangelical fundamentalists"
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9. "I actually typed Evangelical but backspaced"
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I didn't know what word to use to describe those who are legit crazy so I went with Scientology.

shut up already, damn

  

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10. "I hear ya. "
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Anyway, like you said, the show is tough going. I think it's really really good but, damn, shit is heartbreaking to sit through.

Fun fact: the voice on the radio when Offred is in the car is Oprah.

  

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11. "Christians?"
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nothing in any of the world's established religions is in any way, shape, or form, less crazy than Scientology.

  

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31. "nothing's happening in Gilead that Christians haven't pulled before"
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(that's not a condemnation of all Christians, although we're not having a great 2018)

that's the point.

they're not crazy. they're just deep in their own shit.

  

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13. "Under his eye "
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Show is so damn good

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14. "May the Lord open"
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15. "Blessed be"
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16. "Aunt Lydia may be the craziest character on the show"
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17. "Aunt Lydia?"
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there is gaggles of white men raping women cause THEY ARE infertile while their wives are forced to participate / "watch", killing each other because they don't trust each other, hanging people all over the damn city, beating the shit out of women who CAN have babies if they say or do the wrong thing, organizing secret brothels while still trying to build their psychotic christian civilization, and did I mention the hangings and the raping...

Yes Aunt Lydia deserves to be knifed slowly to death, but she ain't as bad as Waterford and his team of political sociopaths.

  

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19. "She's the wicked stepmother that trains these women"
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To be slaves and goes nuts if it isn't done right

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20. "Man, when she cried before ringing the bell"
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I thought it was because she knew shit was fucked up but I think it was tears of joy.

Iont know. She is the slave hand that keep everyone in line. Not sure she is truly evil or just surviving.

shut up already, damn

  

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22. "I think she really believes"
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>Not sure she is truly evil or just surviving.

It may have started as a survival mechanism, but I think she now genuinely believes in her mission. People will rationalize anything if they're convinced it's "for the kids."

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28. "It’s weird..."
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I try to place myself there...that life...that world so I can understand the mindset of these people like. is their life some form of survival of the fittest?

I might be overthinking lol
but it’s so much I don’t understand...

  

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42. "She was probably powerless in the old society now she has power"
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and the privilege of not being checked on her beliefs.

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21. "I'm glad it's once a week and not bingeable"
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Because this shit is so bleak and depressing. It's good, but there's no way I could watch 3 of these in a row.

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24. "I watch on the stick but gave up this season"
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I will return but damn sure won't binge watch

its too much

and its done too well to think its just a show

shut up already, damn

  

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23. "Man, this show is so oppressive, I feel like it's suffocating me"
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It's just so fucking bleak and maddening.

Fucking brilliant television..and arguably the most beautifully shot series I've ever seen. Every damn frame is literally art.

Masterpiece.

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25. "That aerial shot of the funeral...ooh boy, brilliant!"
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I’ve said to a couple of friends that haven’t seen it that every single shot is amazing.

  

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26. "on my list.. not yet started tho."
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heard nothing but fire about it.

  

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29. "I didn't care for the season finale "
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32. "If I'm not misaken"
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the season finale airs next week. The most recent episode you watched was the 12th one, right? If so, that's the penultimate episode for this season.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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33. "Yeah I watched episode 12, I thought that was it"
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I hope you're right

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34. "There is a 13th episode. I've seen the trailer."
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37. "what did you think of last night? "
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that couple being drowned was deep. I recall her conversation with Offred about love so I’m assuming that’s why she felt that way. “grab love where you can find it”

then Emily. Her new house assignment seems like it’s going to be weird.

  

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38. "that ending made no sense"
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considering how they've bent over backwards (torture/conditioning/bargaining/surgery/new placements) for two ladies (one of whom just came through months of radiation farming) who've caused way more trouble just because they can give birth.

they're going to let a teenager go out like that over a crush? not even give an aunt a shot at turning her around?

that's shitty writing.

  

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39. "if gilead is governed by biblical principles..."
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although I think many of the principles are misinterpretations, adultery would be a greater offense that required death. What was amazing to me is they were willing to die for their love. Part of me was sad for them...the other was like hell yeah lol

tough scene nonetheless...

  

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30. "i don't understand how the eden plot fits into gilead at all"
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last two episodes have been doing a lot with plot shenanigans.

  

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40. "Eden Represented all of the ideals of Gilead ***Spoilers****"
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She was a child born into the system and really believed in it until she got caught up with dude.

when nick told her to lie she was like I cant do that against God.

She was a real one...

unlike any of the others who would have lied to get out of the situation.

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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35. "*The* It's "The Handmaid's Tale"..."
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Sorry but my pedantry won't allow me to have this go un-addressed.

Feel free to flame me etc...

  

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36. "it’s cool..."
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it’s a fair point and I’m not offended

in my mind, im building off the story itself not so much the true title of it. If that makes sense.lol It’s so much in this show I don’t know how to digest...

  

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43. "I hear ya. Respect."
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41. "I don't understand how they can exist without propaganda"
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There doesn't seem to be any media or symbology.

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44. "was their media or symbols when it came to slavery? "
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seems like fear and pain is the best symbol for their propaganda

and dressing the same

shut up already, damn

  

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45. "how did Gilead come into existence? "
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there were glimpses of it in a few episodes but it’s still unclear to me.

Like. The bombing when there was a gather of other world leaders. Gilead isn’t a super power...they’re try to recruit other nations on the idea of handmaids.

  

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46. "RE: how did Gilead come into existence? "
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>there were glimpses of it in a few episodes but it’s still
>unclear to me.
>
>Like. The bombing when there was a gather of other world
>leaders. Gilead isn’t a super power...they’re try to
>recruit other nations on the idea of handmaids.
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this only the second season... im sure they gonna circle back to some of this later on....

Im still trying to figure out the Colony stuff and what happened to make it so bad...lots of questions.

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49. "They talk about it vaguely and briefly in some episodes"
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Pollution and industrialization got so bad that women (well we know now it's really the men) became infertile. That's one reason they were able to take things back to pre-technology phase for the most part. I think they were trying to trade handmaids for food/resources, and that's why the colonies where they send the "unwomen" are so toxic and deadly.

  

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las raises
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47. "Hell of an episode to end the season"
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48. "yeah. don’t say anything lol"
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I’ll be back tonight...

  

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50. "I knew once she looked at the pic of her first daughter..."
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she wasn’t going to leave.

Like. you can’t take one and leave the other especially since she promised she’d be back for her. Nothing is more powerful than a mother’s love...a courageous woman.

and Eden’s death was the jump off lol

Is aunt Lydia really dead?

talk about it...

  

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las raises
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51. "How is she going to get Hannah back?"
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She can't go back to the Waterford house, he just had his wife's finger cut off what will he do to her? Aunt Lydia not sure if she is dead and the home owner that got them out sounds like he helps most maids get out

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52. "They feel the need to stay in Gilead for Season 3 for some reason."
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Maybe so they can continue to dwell in its misery.

When in reality a Season 3 devoted to Canadians planning and executing a heist of June's kid would've been a lot more riveting than more waiting around in Gilead to see who gets raped and when. They already established earlier in Season 2 that June knows leaving is the best path to getting her kid back, as she'll have the freedom to operate, she'll have allies, resources, her husband, etc. She tried it once! (Not to mention the idea that she'd leave her baby right now in favor of an impossible path to success also goes against much of what we know about June.)

But nah. They want more Offred suffering in Gilead. Make her pay, get her beaten, lots of rape, etc. The show has a lot of good stuff but fuck it's maddening in other areas.

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56. "that's what causes revolt tho..."
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the injustices...
June is so damn courageous lol

  

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57. "they always leave moira dangling too. "
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i didn't like the last 10 minutes of either of the last two episodes, because they were more about setting up a transition to next season's shoots than trying to make sense of gilead.

but everything before those last scenes worked so ....

  

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55. "I believe June becomes the matriarch..."
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going back to the conversation in the kitchen with Fred...I think she will take him up on the offer but, somehow sabotage it to free more women...girls. She's always been a rebel.

She'll free Hannah in that way...

  

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53. "RE: I knew once she looked at the pic of her first daughter..."
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>Is aunt Lydia really dead?

Nah, she ain't dead.

The very last shot of her is of her breathing/moving.

If she was dead there would be no doubt.

  

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54. "See, Emily (Don't) Play."
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58. "Marthas are the Underground Railroad "
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I love how she deadpanned when June asked who? Marthas

The offspring :-D

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59. "Has anyone read the book?"
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back in the day Janey would of told my ass to read the book lol

but yeah...
it can’t seem to stay on the shelf at the local library...in any format so I ordered it

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I be asking myself what would I do if I were June...could I be June (Offred)? Like. where does that will to fight come from?

passion
conviction
or was she just born like that?

I’m stuck

  

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60. "If you are a fan of the show"
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it is a short and worthwhile read. Some sections are somewhat nebulous, but the book overall does a great job of getting inside June's head. At the same time, the show does wonders in expanding on the book.

Since you mention the book, I do wonder if Margaret Atwood (sp?) has any say in how the story is being told for this Hulu version. I don't see her name in my brief skimming of the post-show credits, so I suppose I already have my answer there.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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61. "I remember seeing her name in the credits"
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Don't remember in what capacity tho. I plan on reading the book. Almost copped it the other day at the bookstore but put it on pause. Not sure if I'll get a physical or go Kindle.

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62. "thank you..."
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I’ll going to look into the author’s thoughts on the movie too...

  

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