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"Caught "Murder Rap" yet? It convincingly solves who killed Pac & Biggie...."


  

          

It came on Reelz last night and damn I was not intent on watching another Biggie & Tupac conspiracy documentary. However, this documentary was based on the investigation of Greg Kading, a member of the special task force that was the last major official attempt to solve the case and the last two thirds of the film expertly explains who murdered Tupac and Biggie AND most importantly, corroborates just about every assertion made in the movie (also a book).

By the time you finish watching the documentary you will be satisfied you know who killed the two hip-hop artist.

There is also the satisfaction that the simplest and most obvious explanation of who killed them is also the truth.

That is, Biggie and Pac got caught up in some Bloods & Crip feuding. Orlando Anderson, the Crip who Pac stomped hours before and who had been beefing Suge's crew, killed Pac. Then Suge had Biggie killed in retaliation. There is a whole lot more to the story but that is it at it's simplest.

The other part that makes this explanation the easiest to believe is that it explains the basis for so many of the conspiracy theories. (e.g., Chuck Phillips switch Puffy's role to Biggie to avoid libel lawsuits).


The only part of the whole story that is hardest to believe is that Puffy put a 1M bounty on Tupac's head. But even the investigator Kading treats this assertion as what it was, the confession of a key informant granted immunity but was also highly motivated to provide a bigger target than himself. I believe that Puffy talked wrecklessly and talked about putting a bounty on Pac's head (which seems to be corroborated), I doubt that Puffy had a follow-up meeting with the crip members to double down on the offer.

It also just seems to big a coincidence that Pac starts a fight that night with the dude who was hired by Puffy to kill him.

However if it is true, and it is also clear that Puffy didn't follow through a pay when it was done (another source of a conspiracy theory), then Puffy is actually the coldest gangster of them all and Long Kiss Goodnight makes Hit Em Up look like Kid's play.


Anyway, I need to discuss this.


If you ain't got time for the movie or book these couple of articles tell alot of the story.

http://hiphopdx.com/editorials/id.3007/title.murder-rap-inside-the-biggie-tupac-murders-seeks-to-decode-the-truth-behind-the-crimes

This article in particular poops all over other conspiracy theories and explains why the case will never be solved officially.


http://www.complex.com/music/2012/03/interview-former-lapd-detective-says-he-knows-who-killed-the-notorious-big


I know ten dudes are going to show up and say this is all common knowledge but this documentary puts it all in one place and gives the definitive unified account IMHOP.

Check it out.




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Caught "Murder Rap" yet? It convincingly solves who killed Pac & Biggie.... [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Sun Nov-15-15 02:53 PM
 
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I fell asleep watching it last nite.
Nov 15th 2015
1
you got dvr?
Nov 16th 2015
5
      Not currently no.
Nov 16th 2015
6
What about that ex-cop who dressed up like a NOI dude?
Nov 15th 2015
2
Yeah, they spent alot of time dissecting that theory. It doesn't add up...
Nov 15th 2015
3
My takeway, an investigation determined to absolve the LAPD of any
Nov 16th 2015
4
yea still dont get how deep LAPD was involved and just walked off
Nov 16th 2015
12
HAHA, I remember now, had to think about it
Nov 19th 2015
15
      But what is the basis for saying David Mack was involved?
Nov 19th 2015
16
      LOL, Fam, you can type david mack shot biggie into a search engine
Nov 19th 2015
18
      He was in LA that night
Nov 19th 2015
19
RE: My takeway, an investigation determined to absolve the LAPD of any
Nov 19th 2015
20
      It was more than that.
Nov 19th 2015
21
           RE: says this Kading dude
Nov 19th 2015
22
                I'll go back and re-read Pooles book. One thing that doesn't make sense
Nov 23rd 2015
26
there was actually some good stuff in here
Nov 16th 2015
7
to this day i think Pac was killed behind some regular old hood shit:
Nov 16th 2015
8
I think you mostly got it right. I just don't think it was a cop.
Nov 16th 2015
10
Sounds reasonable.
Nov 23rd 2015
25
      Only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why didn't the police go aft...
Nov 23rd 2015
27
           RE: (no money exchanged hands)
Nov 23rd 2015
28
                That part was pure speculation with no corraberation.
Nov 23rd 2015
44
I thought it was part of the lifestyle
Nov 16th 2015
9
Because it's an unsolved mystery of two of the all time great rappers.
Nov 16th 2015
11
because it's interesting
Nov 23rd 2015
47
because it's our JFK
Jul 13th 2018
68
plan to watch it later on dvr
Nov 16th 2015
13
RE: plan to watch it later on dvr
Nov 23rd 2015
30
There was an exchange of fire in one of the murders. I forget which one....
Nov 23rd 2015
31
This shit is *wild*
Nov 18th 2015
14
got it saved on the dvr, watching tonight!
Nov 19th 2015
17
wowwwwwwwww(c)Flava Flav @ all of this
Nov 20th 2015
23
CUZ A BROTHER LIKE ME SAID WELL
Nov 21st 2015
24
Ice-T was saying it a while ago. It sounded harsh, but he basically
Nov 23rd 2015
29
^^
Nov 23rd 2015
37
why would Suge, a Crip, have Biggie killed
Nov 23rd 2015
32
RE: why would Suge, a Crip, have Biggie killed
Nov 23rd 2015
33
      okay. the question stands.
Nov 23rd 2015
34
           RE: okay. the question stands.
Nov 23rd 2015
35
                i asked the question in response to this quote from the OP:
Nov 23rd 2015
36
                     RE: i asked the question in response to this quote from the OP:
Nov 23rd 2015
38
                          this is the least credible part of the theory:
Nov 23rd 2015
39
                               RE: this is the least credible part of the theory:
Nov 23rd 2015
40
                               RE: this is the least credible part of the theory:
Nov 23rd 2015
41
                               ^^^ this is the least credible part of the theory:
Nov 23rd 2015
42
                                    RE: ^^^ this is the least credible part of the theory:
Nov 23rd 2015
43
                                         except for the 2 major figures in any theory offered to date are still a...
Nov 23rd 2015
45
                                              RE: except for the 2 major figures in any theory offered to date are sti...
Nov 23rd 2015
48
                               The doc doesn't outright contend that Puff actually made that offer.
Nov 23rd 2015
46
                                    Suge may have thought Puff put out a hit on Pac.
Nov 23rd 2015
49
                                    yah.
Nov 23rd 2015
51
                                         Damn.
Nov 23rd 2015
52
                                         ^^This. Like folks have been saying Pac & Puffy started kicking
Nov 23rd 2015
53
                                              It doesn't seem outlandish to me
Nov 23rd 2015
54
                                              That part is true beyond doubt.
Nov 23rd 2015
56
                                                   talking shit at a party and the Crips took him serious?
Jul 13th 2018
69
                                              Keefy has reason to lie about Puff's involvement.
Nov 23rd 2015
55
                                    RE: The doc doesn't outright contend that Puff actually made that offer.
Nov 23rd 2015
50
Too much coincidence RE: South Side Crips
Nov 24th 2015
57
They weren't planning on killing Pac that night though
Nov 24th 2015
58
      Yeah i misstated that part
Nov 24th 2015
59
back on tonite 11pm OVTV directv..
Feb 06th 2016
60
Man I think its officially caused closed on who killed Pac
Jul 04th 2018
61
So Haitian Jack wasn't involved?
Jul 04th 2018
62
1st shooting in New York, maybe
Jul 04th 2018
64
People really thinking P ain't about that life
Jul 04th 2018
63
Hours before?
Jul 12th 2018
65
Also why shoot Big for what Puff did?
Jul 13th 2018
66
So it turns out to be gang shit and corrupt record company people?
Jul 13th 2018
67

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