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with someone as equals. You see this all the time with people at the top of their game but that shit is true at every level (I've lost some good friendships over it).
I think what inevitably happens with a winning partnership is at some point you start wondering who is bringning more to the table and whether you can do it without the other person.
It's the breakup story of every music group.
What's super interesting to me is when folks try to leave the partnership and then they realize that they may have been wrong and return and try to reclaim that old magic.
I feel that's what happened with Snoop because dude was definitely bugging when he was trying to say he didn't need beats.
I think Shaq learned some appreciation for Kobe after dude went on to do it without him.
Shit I think it must have been hard for Andy Richter to accept that his best work was as Conan's sidekick. I also think when Conan was down he turned to Andy Richter to get that old magic back.
I also think it's interesting when people at the top of their game have mutual respect for their rivals, even enough to come together to do a project or two together, but then know better than try to do anything more sustained than that.
Nas & Jay will show up on each other albums, but ain't no one thinking they should do an album together.
Funny to see Jay and Diddy all buddy buddy now though they rarely appear on each others projects.
And not exactly on the topic but I think Drake should have spoken up for Meek Mills with the probation violation, that would have been a classy move.
>We often talk about celebs who feud with each other, but what
>are some stories and examples of those who just seem to have
>complicated friendships, relationships, and even friendly
>rivalries?
>
>First one I think about is Steve Harvey and Cedric The
>Entertainer. They appeared to be best friends in the 90's when
>Steve had the show, and they both did Kings of Comedy and were
>always rolling together. Then, I started hearing about
>different incidents, mainly due to Steve's arrogance and diva
>type attitude. I've heard they clashed a lot, and I'm not sure
>if this was before or after the incident where Steve tried to
>steal Bernie's role behind his back. A lot of folks felt Ced
>was giving him an invisible side eye during the Def Comedy Jam
>when Steve talked about Bernie.
>
>I for sure think about Brandy and Monica. I'm not sure exactly
>when and where their rivalry started, but it had to be
>somewhere around 95-96 when they first debuted. A L.A. "urban
>legend" claims that Monica was on 92.3 The Beat one morning,
>and when someone asked her about Brandy, she said "oh, you
>mean Mo to the, Ho to the."
>
>"The boy is mine" brought them together of course, but I've
>seen them in interviews together where you can still see that
>there is tension, even if they claim to be friends. I also
>caught Brandy's performance at some award show last year where
>she threw shots at Monica, so who knows where they currently
>stand. It seems like they're on bad terms again though.
>
>I know that Snoop has had a few relationships like this. The
>first was with Dre, after Dre left Death Row. They never
>blatantly dissed each other, but a lot of folks (somewhat
>accurately) predicted that Doggfather would fail because Dre
>wasn't involved. On the song "Freestyle conversation," the
>skit starts off saying "I heard Snoop Dogg ain't shit without
>a beat," and Snoop says "I don't give a fuck about a beat!"
>which was a straight sub shot. Even "Been there, done that"
>could be seen as a diss to most Gangsta Rappers, including
>Snoop/DPG.
>
>They got cool again in 99 once Snoop was on Death Row, and
>they did The Wash in 2001...and then, Dre dissed Jermaine
>Dupri, who was Snoop's homie. Snoop took offense to Dre and
>Xzibit dissing him, while knowing they didn't have the balls
>to diss Suge Knight, who's the one who deserved it way more
>than anything JD did. They made up pretty fast, but Snoop did
>throw shots at Xzibit on "Pimp Slapp'd" (I'm not Xzibit, you
>can't pull my hoe card!) He also had quick feuds with Daz and
>Kurupt around 99 and 2003.
>
>Drake and Kendrick are another prime example...Drake had
>Kendrick on the "Take care" skit, and I think they might have
>even toured together. All seemed to be great, and then
>Kendrick mentioned him on "Control" and all hell broke loose
>on Drake's part. I don't think they really became cool again
>until 1-2 years ago...I figure the line on "For free" and even
>the whole song concept was a nod to Kendrick.
>
>I know there's a few of these within the world of Sports. Kobe
>and Shaq are a prime example...from Kobe being the little bro,
>to becoming better than Shaq and having that huge ego clash
>that lead to Shaq being traded...to them halfway making up
>when they first played (remember Kobe got inbetween Shaq and
>Bynum after Bynum dunked on Shaq?)...and then, whenever Shaq
>made that "Kobe how my ass taste?" diss. They had a long
>podcast last year, and it seems like they're BFFs again. Kobe
>spoke at his statue unveiling, and I'm sure Shaq will speak at
>Kobe's retirement this month.
>
>What are some examples that y'all have knowledge about?
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