Critics are loving Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

I was already fucking excited. I thought it looked awesome-- monkeys fucking shit up, what's not to love?

Then, I saw Rotten Tomatoes sitting at 86% this morning, and read this FULL-BLOWN JIZZ-IN-YOUR-PANTS RAVE from Sasha Stone.

Sasha gets probably *too* excited by the review's end, but could this be one of the best movies of the year? Please for the love of God please...

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Unleashed: The Rise of the Planet of the Apes is 2011′s Best Film so Far

By Sasha Stone | August 3, 2011

The best movies you never see coming. Into the Age of Anxiety comes this redux of the familiar Planet of the Apes series which relies heavily on that familiarity as it charges forward into uncharted territory. That territory is part breathtaking technology, part human self-loathing for what we’ve done, who we’ve become and our own despairing hopelessness about our future, and part rumination of the animal within: it all vibrates and quakes in this, one of 2011′s best films.

Never underestimate the element of surprise. Expectations weren’t running high — the thinking was it would be as campy as the old Planet of the Apes movies or worse, as bad as the Tim Burton one. What most weren’t expecting, of course, was that the Rise of the Planet of the Apes would be so character driven: because the technology is now seamless, there is very little separation between our awe and our emotional reaction. But still, with a movie like this there will always be those who refuse to take it seriously because technology is scary, which of course, is part of the film’s central theme.

The reason to see this movie is marvel at what we can now do with motion capture if you have the right actor (Andy Serkis) and the right FX (WETA), and a director (Rupert Wyatt) knows how to tell a good story; it’s almost shocking, for instance, how long it takes the movie to get going. It takes its time without rushing the audience headlong into the action. We get little hints of it here and there but at some point it sinks in that we’re not going to get the non-stop action and violence to which our ADD culture has become accustomed. So the audience dials it down, sits back and absorbs this odd character Caesar.

The Rise of the Planet of the Apes comes out the same year as Project Nim, and a year or so after a big chimp bit off a woman’s face. Project Nim is a documentary about animal experimentation gone wrong — this idea that humans could somehow domesticate a chimp and teach him sign language proved that domesticity, the forced nature of suppression, isn’t something you can teach at birth, but rather, something that must be bred out of primates. Nim could not help his animal within. He did not have reason. But it’s perhaps more useful to look at what Nim did have rather than what he didn’t have. And that is what is heightened in the chimps who evolve with the help of a drug in the film.

Apes freak out humans because they are so like us and yet so different. They are the closest thing to us — separated, in some cases, by an astonishing 5% difference between us and chimps. They reveal what we all bury every day: sexual impulses, exposed rage. The animal in us has long been diverted underground but at our core we are still primal and we are apes too. What divides us from them, that 5% difference, is about standing upright and using our much bigger brains. If you study evolution you’ll know that nothing happens that cannot happen: we have bigger brains that can’t get any bigger because of the size of the human pelvis. The size of the human pelvis can’t get any bigger because then we could not walk upright. We needed to walk upright so that we could run from predators and carry our young. These are all just theories as to why humans evolved the way they did and why chimps went the way they did.

No one knows if chimps might evolve due to an environmental factor or a mutation in another million years. They might. And part of that evolution could be intelligence and walking upright. Dolphins, dogs or whales could also evolve. We already know elephants are a lot smarter than any of us ever realized. It is only our own ignorance and narcissism that prevents us from really looking and seeing what animals really are.

The film is infused with our terror and uncertainty about the world we’ve built for ourselves. There is a sense that we’ve taken the hand we’ve been dealt — a hefty hand, six million years or so of evolution — and royally fucked things up. Most of the country is on medication to curb depression, even children. The truth is that our technology is moving much faster than we can manage and while we’re living longer we’re also worried about future – a future that is seeming less and less hopeful as time goes on.

The same kind of distrust and anxiety was woven through the late ’60s and ’70s — so it’s not surprising that their apocalyptic view still resonates. Things are even more tense in 2011 because we really don’t know what will mean the end of the human race though many of us are starting to think it won’t be too far off – could be a super virus, could be nuclear war, could be global warming, could be … cell phones. We just don’t know. And we live with this white noise every day.

It’s quite something to find yourself more moved by a mocap ape driven internally by the master, Andy Serkis, than by any of the live action performances in any film so far this year. It was surprising how much he stuck with me long after the film came to an end and even into the night. It is the careful consideration of his own experience that makes this something exceptional. His emotional array is spectral. At no point do we not buy that these apes have gained intelligence, or had their own intelligence enhanced. At some point the Academy is going to have to give Serkis an Oscar for what he can do with this medium. They have to catch up with it eventually, though that could be a long time coming because the Academy is driven by actors and actors don’t take kindly to the idea that they can be replaced, enhanced, controlled.

Half of the exhilaration here is the director’s sleight of hand. It isn’t so much that the apes are faithfully rendered and seemingly real — so real you can’t believe you are not watching reality — it’s how he keeps the action moving. It’s that the director has such a command of the pace and the action, the film only slows down when we must head back into the human world and follow those stories. But any time it’s on the apes it exists in startling rapid-fire time. It’s as if every time an ape turns its head something falls off the shelf.

What’s most frightening about it in the end is how it reminds us that we’ve trapped even ourselves in a prison of our own making. When the apes decide they’ve had enough, something in us makes us wonder what would it take before we too have had enough?

**So, you will wonder, does The Rise of the Planet of the Apes have a shot at a Best Picture nomination? With Telluride, Venice, London and Toronto coming up it’s hard to imagine it won’t be wiped away by the Big Oscar Movies. If the Academy were truly a forward thinking bunch, which we know they aren’t, it would absolutely be seriously considered. But one must always remember that it’s like Thanksgiving. You have to pick the movie that everyone can get and tolerate. It isn’t about finding the best; it never has been. But a number one vote is a vote that comes from love. If they love it, they will vote for it. Hopefully they can overcome their genre prejudice with something like this. The key will be to celebrate the director. It’s not often that a movie comes out of nowhere like this — so the element of surprise is something they have in their favor.

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but i'm also a big planet of the apes fanboy

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the action was good, the casting i thought was fine, i just thought the script was really weak, which unless tim wrote the script, isn't necessarily his fault. it still has one of the trillest lines of all time though, when they were sitting at the table and the big ape shut shit down on some BOW YOUR HEADS steeze lol

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it still has one of the
>trillest lines of all time though, when they were sitting at
>the table and the big ape shut shit down on some BOW YOUR
>HEADS steeze lol

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Why don't some humans take the drug too? I mean, if we were to take the drug, wouldn't that REASSERT our superiority?

*shrug* It CAN'T just be that it gets destroyed. There HAS to be a better reason. Maybe that'll be in a sequel? I'd look forward to that.

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so us taking it wouldn't really add anything. But they have the physical advantages, which makes them scarier. Or something like that, lol.

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I have to admit though, I was ready for pure cheese when I saw the premise and I saw James Franco in it. Interesting to see if it's actually as good as all the reviews.

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it doesn't enhance them physically. we'd need a pill that enhanced humans physically not intellectually in order to compete. if lions had human brains, we'd be sheep.

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If they had our intellect

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>it doesn't enhance them physically. we'd need a pill that
>enhanced humans physically not intellectually in order to
>compete. if lions had human brains, we'd be sheep.

We wouldn't need more physicality.

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He's be on the same level as the apes intellectually but they would be physically much more superior. So we would either need even more intelligence to regain that dominance, or we'd need an increase in physicality to even the playing field.

If it increased their intelligence, it would increase ours as well - thus restoring our historical advantage.

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effect on humans. Thus, that is why humans become mute or lose the ability to communicate and become more animal like?

5% is pretty big when it comes to biology.

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9 billion people advantage.

Sure they have the pure physical advantage but we would still have the military hardware advantage. As well as 9 billions people to send to the front lines to fight, what maybe 100,000 primates?

Our technological advantage is a MUTHA.

Still, this is a movie, I don't want to make the mistake of taking it 'too' seriously.

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rome conquered half the whole world.
germany conquered half of europe.

numbers really don't matter

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and organization. So all the advantages that those countries had, which helped them conquar those areas of land the human also have; better weapons, technology, armies, and organization, plus they vastly out number the apes.

Unless this is a future earth where apes and other primates aren't near extinction, how the hell do 9 billion humans and nations with armies lose to a few thousand apes and other primates?

I mean, unless it increases their intellect EXPONENTIALLY, I don't see how we don't just LEVEL these fools. Also, this film takes place in SF. This shit ain't going down like this in Arizona or Texas, or any other state that has a lot of citizens w/guns.

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...to make sure no apes were harmed, since they're living breathing, now fully intelligent creatures too. This was backed up with a series of commercials showing a gorilla wearing red glasses and a Kermit the Frog t-shirt, looking sullen as Carole King's "You've Got A Friend" plays in the background.

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I also like how they set up the plausible demise of the human race. They did a FAR better job with it than I thought they would.

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something that a local SF writer said: In a town where you can barely buy a goldfish, how is this chimp research going to be approved?

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By Rene Rodriguez

...That’s the same effect Rise of the Planet of the Apes has on the viewer. You can’t wait for the film to get past its endless set-up and exposition and get to the fun stuff. But the wait is long. This prequel to the 1968 sci-fi classic explains exactly how Earth came to be overrun by hyper-intelligent apes while the human population died out. The idea is genius — what a creative way to relaunch a dormant franchise! — but the execution is something else entirely.

Rise of the Planet of the Apes is filled with irritating clichés, such as the men assigned to care for the apes who abuse and taunt the animals for sadistic fun (they’re like prison guards in an exploitation movie). That mistreatment is supposed to justify why the apes eventually rise against us, but the story would have been more interesting if the apes, once the drugs started taking effect, simply decided to wage war on mankind because they deemed themselves superior (arrogance is just as human a trait as a lust for revenge).

Rise of the Planet of the Apes could have done without the romance between Will and his girlfriend Caroline (Freida Pinto), arguably the most irrelevant romantic subplot in cinematic history, or scenes involving highly-skilled professionals who bicker like schoolchildren (no wonder the apes kick our asses), or a needlessly drawn-out middle section detailing the animals’ gradual evolution.

The movie’s pacing is all off: Wyatt dotes on needless plot points other filmmakers would skip. There’s no momentum to the film, no sense of a build-up to an all-out war. Rise of the Planet of the Apes throws out references to previous Apes films to amuse hardcore fans, and the film delivers on its promise to reveal exactly how this doomsday scenario could happen. But rarely has a story about the end of the world seemed so boring.

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because the pacing is tedious: a series of explanations that replace compelling narrative or character development. even Ebert (who gave a positive review) complained about Franco's listless usage and uninteresting relationship with Pinto.

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But I liked his interactions with his father and Caesar. The love relationship takes MAYBE two minutes of total film, so it is in no way a bother.

Really, Franco is so far away from being the main character that him doing a yeoman job doesn't disturb the film or make it drag. The focus of the film is predominantly Caesar, who is awesome every moment.

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I loved that movie as a kid but there's no doubt that shit needed to be redone... as good as the story and acting was (Roddy McDowall & Ricardo Montalban are great) the movie has a real cheesy look to it. So I was pretty excited when saw they were remaking this... now to hear it's well done has me extra juiced.

I really hope they use this is a starting point for a series of new POTA movies... I really want to see the ape world depicted using this technology.
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But I should add that the film's ending is fucking awesome, and visually arresting.

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IS FUCKING EPIC!! That shit needs a poster..

One thing I don't think anybody mentioned was the SCORE..

I've been looking at reviews both fan made and critics..

and one dude pointed out it was actually GREAT...so if that's

true this shit has hit written all over it.

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They have a ongoing monthly that would basically take place after this movie but before the original where human and apes are trying to live in peace.

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He gave it three stars and said it was exactly what you expect it to be, "no more, no less."

I expect to be fairly brainless action that I'll probably catch on cable in about nine months or so. Sounds about right.

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>I expect to be fairly brainless action that I'll probably
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>right.

I think the trailers have made people think it's something it's not... If anything some might call it slow. If you didn't care about Caesar the movie wouldn't work unless it was turned into a "brainless action" movie...but the movie takes it's time and get's it right. I'd stop short of calling the movie great (it's very good) but what Andy Serkis and the writers did with Caesar is pure greatness.

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At least not a lot of the human scenes w/o some ape shit to carry it.

I like Franco, Pinto & Lithgow just fine but I never really cared about their stories. Cox character was wasted as well. Minor gripe tho.

Most of the movie is all about Caesar's transformation from cute little pet to powerful 'panzee & it's very compelling.

Wasn't a fan of Heston flicks & hated Burton's shit but this was full on beastmode from the start & I dug it.

i'm kinda amped.

It's a weird movie, in the sense that it felt more like a Super-Hero origin story than anything. Which is not a bad thing, by any means. The movie is all about Caesar and an hour into it I was thinking it felt like a Spider-Man movie. anyway HIS arc is top notch. A corny line...messed up what should have BEEN A VERY EPIC ONE..but some people clapped anyway.

Don't wanna post to much...

I will say IMO the movie is just as much about race, and class, than scientific breakthrough, so its more like the OG Planet of the apes than many critics are saying

BUT IT IS ALL ABOUT THE APES.

And as for the human characters I think Lithgow was PERFECT, for what he was giving(cast as an alzheimer's patient) and was very believable.

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If yes I thought so as well & it's cause of the tool that uttered it

A corny line...messed up what
>should have BEEN A VERY EPIC ONE..but some people clapped
>anyway.