http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At7kiHgETevUIDfU6TG57Ee8vLYF?slug=ap-us-skorea&prov=ap&type=lgns

"In other exhibition games leading up to the world championships, Vasilis Spanoulis scored 12 points to help Greece defeat Germany 84-47 in the final of the Stankovic Cup in Kunshan, China. Dallas Mavericks forward Dirk Nowitzki was held to nine points for Germany."

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http://de.sports.yahoo.com/15082006/14/dbb-riesen-griechen-unter-raeder.html

Additional humor: At freetranslation.com, the first sentence of the above page reads, "The general sample for the World Cup in Japan went for the German basketballs thoroughly into the pair of pants."

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And I was one of the few people who believed they were a legit contender going into last year and while all the analysts were calling them "pretenders" during the season (seriously, does Charles Barkley even watch basketball any more?)

Not that they are getting old or anything, I just think that Phoenix and the Clippers will be better not to mention that Duncan will be 100% which he wasnt through any part of last season. The Clippers can deal with them at every position, they have depth, they gained some serious playoff experience and they have the most complete player in the NBA leading their squad.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

> but if they come back, they'll be up agains the Heat. Again.

Dwade to destroy the Mavs in the event this happens.

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http://www.nba.com/usabasketball/germanyangola.html

Dirk Goes Off For 47 Points As Germany Outlasts Angola

"HIROSHIMA, Japan, Aug. 24 (Ticker) -- Whenever Germany was in doubt against Angola, Dirk Nowitzki of the Dallas Mavericks seemed to have all the answers.

Nowitzki scored 47 points and grabbed 16 rebounds to lead Germany to a thrilling 108-103 triple-overtime triumph over Angola in Group B at the World Championship.

Nowitzki buried a 3-pointer late in the first overtime and made two free throws to tie the game, 95-95, after the second. He dominated the third extra session, scoring 11 of Germany's 13 points.

Nowitzki made 13-of-29 shots from the floor and hit all 17 free throws. His 47 points is the fifth-highest single-game total in tournament history. Jae Hur of Korea scored 62 in 1990.

"What am I going to say that you didn't see out there?" German coach Dirk Bauermann said. "That's competitive greatness. He gives you your best when you need it most."

With 25 seconds left in the fourth quarter, Nowitzki found Mithat Demirel for a wide open 3-pointer to tie the game, 69-69.

Nowitzki took the game into his hands late in the first extra session, burying a 3-pointer from the left wing over Joaquim Gomes with one second remaining to tie the contest, 83-83.

Nowitzki opened the third OT with a basket from the arc and three free throws with 2:52 left for a 101-95 edge. Olimpio Cipriano and Mingas made two foul shots apiece and Mingas nailed a jumper to trim the deficit to 103-101 with one minute remaining.

However, Nowitzki sealed the win with another 3-pointer and a pair of free throws in the final with 39 seconds."


http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2562589

Worlds roundup: Nowitzki rescues Germany

Dirk Nowitzki made a key defensive play at the buzzer as Germany edged Nigeria 78-77

Second round
Germany 78, Nigeria 77

SAITAMA, Japan -- Nowitzki, who scored 23 points, gave Germany a 78-71 lead on a dunk with 2� minutes left in the game. But his most important contribution came on defense.

Nigeria pulled to within one on free throws by Chamberlain Oguchi and Tunji Awojobi and had a chance to take the lead with seconds remaining. Ime Udoka drove for the basket but Nowitzki tipped his shot and grabbed the rebound at the final buzzer."


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The purer the African blood of the team he plays against, the
more dominant he is. Or maybe white people bring out the worst
in him, in which case me and him have something in common.


That's the only explanation.


Unfortunately, the 10-33% of the average African-American's genome which is
caucasian seems to be enough to make him suck in the NBA come playoff time.
If only he'd face a frontline of Olajuwon, Luol Deng, and Emeka Okafor in the NBA
finals. You'd have none of that "Dirk Nowitzki - the third best player on the Mavs"
disappearing act when it matters.

In fact...

..Dirk Nowitzki could be molecular biology's next great tool.

Check it out:

You have him play one on one against two random black people.
The person that Dirk goes off on is the one with the purer African Ancestry.

I just want him to play the Dominican Republic team and go off for 60
and make a lot of people upset.

And I'd be curious to see him go one on one with Bill Clinton, confirming
lots of suspicion.

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The only consistency that you'll get from Dirk is he'll shoot at least 5 3-pointers a game and he'll be in the paint approximately 3 times a game.

Oh, and he won't be able to win a championship as the leader of his team, because he's too soft, doesn't have heart, and blames other players when the team HE'S supposed to lead loses.

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Dirk the last two seasons. 3.13 three pointers attempted a game.

man your hate is so irrational and unintelligent that it's hilarious.



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I was pegging it in actuality to be somewhere around 1.8 or something.

Jesus, that guy shoots far too many threes.

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no, it's really not too much at all.


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im not sure what the issue is

he could stand to *develop* that consistantly viable post game, which isnt anyhere near as nonexistant as many would like us to believe... however, i also believe that a guy shuld play to his strengths. now, if he was, oh, say, antoine walker, who isnt nearly as efficient a three point shooter, i wuld have a gripe.... but for dirk its a definite strength, so you can nly complain so much about it imo.

he still needs amore consistant and effective inide game, and he has shon flashes of being able to if he commits... but how much can you complain about him shooting threes when its a strength of his? lets not forget the role the refs played in that series either... im not gonna makes scues for them blowing a 2 game lead... but even a fool knos somethings werent right on that front..

im not sure what the issue is

he could stand to *develop* that consistantly viable post game, which isnt anyhere near as nonexistant as many would like us to believe... however, i also believe that a guy shuld play to his strengths. now, if he was, oh, say, antoine walker, who isnt nearly as efficient a three point shooter, i wuld have a gripe.... but for dirk its a definite strength, so you can nly complain so much about it imo.

he still needs amore consistant and effective inide game, and he has shon flashes of being able to if he commits... but how much can you complain about him shooting threes when its a strength of his? lets not forget the role the refs played in that series either... im not gonna makes scues for them blowing a 2 game lead... but even a fool knos somethings werent right on that front..

im not sure what the issue is

he could stand to *develop* that consistantly viable post game, which isnt anyhere near as nonexistant as many would like us to believe... however, i also believe that a guy shuld play to his strengths. now, if he was, oh, say, antoine walker, who isnt nearly as efficient a three point shooter, i wuld have a gripe.... but for dirk its a definite strength, so you can nly complain so much about it imo.

he still needs amore consistant and effective inide game, and he has shon flashes of being able to if he commits... but how much can you complain about him shooting threes when its a strength of his? lets not forget the role the refs played in that series either... im not gonna makes scues for them blowing a 2 game lead... but even a fool knos somethings werent right on that front..

yup.

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I shit you not, I'm not exaggerating or joking.

JJ can't win the championship as a leader. We know this. That's why it's good that he's gonna be a supporting player to Dwight Howard's leader in the big league.

Dirk is his team's undisputed leader. And the results will be exactly the same as the JJ Redick era of Duke. Great regular season when there's no stakes, maybe even a good playoff series or two. But no championship.

Excellent point you brought up.

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Took his point and bodied him with it.

You just made him call Dirk Nowitzki a jumpshooter who
should be a very good supporting player on a championship
team.

All that and you don't seem like any less of a JJ Redick fan.

Well, well, done.


>I shit you not, I'm not exaggerating or joking.
>
>JJ can't win the championship as a leader. We know this.
>That's why it's good that he's gonna be a supporting player to
>Dwight Howard's leader in the big league.
>
>Dirk is his team's undisputed leader. And the results will be
>exactly the same as the JJ Redick era of Duke. Great regular
>season when there's no stakes, maybe even a good playoff
>series or two. But no championship.
>
>Excellent point you brought up.

... has no point, but forced a desperation shot anyway and blew it again.

>You just made him call Dirk Nowitzki a jumpshooter who
>should be a very good supporting player on a championship
>team.

... if Dirk was 6'4" like Redick, that is. But Dirk's size and skillset make him a perennial All-Star, first team All-NBA player who's likely headed to Springfield, while Redick will be nothing more than a role player in the NBA.

>All that and you don't seem like any less of a JJ Redick fan.

of course not, he's a Dukie. Nobody ever expected him to be any less of a Redick fan. The irony of his Dirk hate, though, is that if he was a Dallas native attending UNC, he'd be a Nowitzki fan and perpetually hating on Redick.

but at least he was able to put aside his bias for a second and look at the situation objectively. which is more than I can say for you.

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Remember:

Longo's hate >>>>> O_E's hate.

I was merely commenting on how he reversed your own point
and took this mini-squabble in the process.

Really not that serious.

Google away, though.

Lol.

>... if Dirk was 6'4" like Redick, that is. But Dirk's size and
>skillset make him a perennial All-Star, first team All-NBA
>player who's likely headed to Springfield, while Redick will
>be nothing more than a role player in the NBA.

Lol.

I'm not the one who called Dirk a 7'0 J.J. Redick.

You did.

I think Dirk is perhaps the best shooting 7 footer in league history, and
when hot, one of the most uconscious shooters of any size.

There's still 8 players I'd take ahead of him today.

But I don't feel like having that debate right now, because its
old, and because I'm right.


>of course not, he's a Dukie. Nobody ever expected him to be
>any less of a Redick fan. The irony of his Dirk hate, though,
>is that if he was a Dallas native attending UNC, he'd be a
>Nowitzki fan and perpetually hating on Redick.

Uh.

Thanks.

Lemons are on sale 4/$1.00 at the corner bodega too.


>but at least he was able to put aside his bias for a second
>and look at the situation objectively. which is more than I
>can say for you.

Lol.

No picky fighty, today.

Hurt your feelings I have, and shall not here.

Go google 'Frank' and 'Longo' or something.

That'll be more fun.



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cuz I coulda sworn you jumped into this shit *today*

>Longo's hate >>>>> O_E's hate.

and yet, Longo's objectivity >>>>> O_E's objectivity.

Ironic, huh?

>I was merely commenting on how he reversed your own point
>and took this mini-squabble in the process.

He didn't "reverse" my point, he agreed with my point.


>I'm not the one who called Dirk a 7'0 J.J. Redick.
>
>You did.

uh, yeah... and being 7'0" vs. 6'4" makes a hell of a lot of difference in the pros.


>I think Dirk is perhaps the best shooting 7 footer in league
>history, and
>when hot, one of the most uconscious shooters of any size.
>
>There's still 8 players I'd take ahead of him today.

Is Jermaine O'Neal still one of them? LOL


>But I don't feel like having that debate right now, because
>its
>old, and because I'm right.

no, you don't feel like having that debate right now because you were wrong before, and you're wrong now. nothing new about that though.


>>of course not, he's a Dukie. Nobody ever expected him to be
>>any less of a Redick fan. The irony of his Dirk hate,
>though,
>>is that if he was a Dallas native attending UNC, he'd be a
>>Nowitzki fan and perpetually hating on Redick.
>
>Uh.
>
>Thanks.

uh, the irony of that was kinda the point of making the comparison for Longo.


>Lemons are on sale 4/$1.00 at the corner bodega too.

at the bodega? how would you know?

LOL


>Lol.
>
>No picky fighty, today.

*checks timestamp on post #27*

... yup, that was still today.


>Hurt your feelings I have, and shall not here.

LOL - I'd hurt your feelings, but I can't stand watching a man cry.


>Go google 'Frank' and 'Longo' or something.
>
>That'll be more fun.

nah - he never tried to be on some tough guy shit while trying to hide where he's really from, so there's no need to pull his card like that.

LOL.

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Edit.

Nah.

Not worth it.



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Dirk Nowitzki against USA on August 30th:

33 minutes, 15 PTS, 3-12 FG, 0-2 3-PT, 9-9 FT, 9 REB (0 OFF REB), 1 AST, 5 TO

WOW.

Just...just WOW.

Poor shot selection? Check.

Three-point shots not helping the team? Check.

Zero post presence? (as shown by the offensive rebounds) Check.

More turnovers than field goals and assists combined? ..... WOW.

This game proved that Dirk's best features are his height and his free throw shooting (but not his clutch free throw shooting, of course).

Thank you. Seeing as how if Germany had won, every Dirk supporter would've been in this post talking about it. But I'MMA TALK ABOUT IT.

The expected happened: Dirk lost. But it's even more than that. Dirk is his team leader, and couldn't even BEGIN to get the job done. He doesn't help the team with advice like, "Hey guys, we should pass the ball more." They got a staggering SIX ASSISTS AS A TEAM. That's half the amount of attempted shots Dirk took in the game.

He also didn't give them advice, like "Hey guys, LET'S PLAY IN THE FUCKING PAINT." OF COURSE DIRK WOULDN'T SAY THAT, LOL! But you know what happened as a result of absolutely no post presence by anyone on the German team including Dirk? They got outrebounded 48-29, including in offensive rebounds, with an EMBARRASSING 3 REBOUNDS TO THE 22 AMERICA GOT. WOW!

Oh man. You know what? Dirk hate gets too easy. I'm sorry that I have to rub it in like this. And you know what's funny? For every unimportant game he plays (against non-competitors in the World Championships, against teams in the regular season in the NBA), y'all are gonna up this post. But for the games that COUNT? The World Championships, the NBA playoffs?

Well, you'll have no reason to up it. Or maybe you'll get lucky and be able to up it once or twice, he'll get good in a couple of games. But when it really counts, the team leader won't get it done.

It's a good thing Erick Dampier isn't on that German team, or he'd be getting his ass chewed out right now. LOL.

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seriously...what the fuck are they teaching you there?

Hmm, Dirk scored only 15 points against a team composed entirely of upper-echleon NBA players when he was the only high-calibur player on his entire team? Therefore, shit-talking could ONLY work if Germany had pulled off the upset and he had a great game. When they lose by 20 (a better performance than some teams with more NBA players put forth), you don't get to talk shit. Sorry. You don't. Dirk's a better player than any one Duke's ever produced, and a Top 5 NBA player right now, (oh and PS he's going to be in the Hall of Fame in 10-15 years), so please, go back to sucking off Will Avery.



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As a Dallas fan, don't get it twisted-- you're ALLOWED to criticize your leaders. Just as JJ Redick needed criticism for having an imperfect game, just as Stephon needed criticism for having an imperfect game, Dirk needs criticism for having an imperfect game.

You as a Dallas fan have the most to lose by Dirk's inability to play in the paint. I'm surprised you are the one getting the most defensive about it.

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As a Dallas fan, I know his game better than you. As a Dallas fan, you're absolutely right, I have just as much of a right to criticize him, actually more, than you. So maybe, the fact that I don't should tell you something. Is his defense high-calibur? No. Is it vastly improved from 5 years ago? Yes. Is it showing signs of still improving? Yes. Is he ever going to be a first team All Defense player? No. Is he going to end up as a decent defender? All signs point to yes. Is his style of play different from that which you desperately cling to as the norm for a person of his size? Certainly. Does that mean he has to change his style of play? Hmm, when he's averaging 26 points and 9 boards a game as the best player on an NBA Finals team that would have a title right now if its owner wasn't named Mark Cuban, I think not.

He plays in the paint FAR MORE than you'd like everyone to think in your posts. His post game is developing, his 3 point attempts are down from the beginning of his career as it develops more and more. But he would be INSANE to not shoot at least three 3 pointers a game given how adapt he is at hitting them (hmm 2006 3 point contest champion? yes)


But seriously, get in your 'digs' at his 'lack of a post game' now, cause in 2 or 3 years you will just look even dumber clinging to your Dirk hate and making posts like these.



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I've taken Ls before, and I've immediately admitted to them and accepted them with as much graciousness as a man can.

So when Dirk does win a championship, I will take that L.

But all I'm saying is in this meantime, where Dirk doesn't play in the paint and has poor performances in the majority of the big games he plays in (or at least at the end of the game when it counts), attacking me for my comments with talks about what Dirk could be in the future and me being gay with Duke players is not a good look, homie.

But in all seriousness, if Dirk wins the championship, I'll graciously put up a Dirk avatar for a month with the sig reading "I was wrong." And I won't even be bitter about it. I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again.

But until I'm PROVEN wrong about Dirk, I am not wrong, and I'll continue to hate on him and those who ride his nuts, talk about him being the next Larry Bird, talk about how he'll be the key leader in taking the Mavs to a championship, and other such nonsense.

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So, leading a team to the NBA Finals and then winning 2 games, and losing several others on what is at best questionable officiating, isn't good enough, and makes him a bitch in your mind. But those two extra games make him okay in your mind. I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit. I'm gonna guess that, when the Mavs win a title, you'll find a way to say it wasn't Dirk's doing, or that "they wouldn't have won the title without Jason Terry" as if that somehow means that Dirk isn't the best player on the team. (e.g.: me saying, "The Heat wouldn't have won the title without James Posey" as a justification to a post saying "Dwyane Wade Sucks")

Also. STOP COPPING PLEAS DIRK WAS MONEY THROUGHOUT THE PLAYOFFS. Seriously, you cop more pleas. Admit it. Dirk balled his ass off in an EPIC Game 7 against the defending champions. Sorry. He did. You know it. It makes you furious, but he did. He balled his ass off throughout the playoffs, and then struggled somewhat against a Pat Riley coached defense - hmm, I wonder if we compiled a list of All-Star players who struggled somewhat against a Pat Riley coached defense over the last 25 years, would you be calling them soft and saying they don't show up in big games?

Point remains, HE BALLED HIS ASS OFF THROUGHOUT THE PLAYOFFS AND YOU KNOW IT. and it makes you SO mad that you try to attack his performance on the GERMAN NATIONAL TEAM! LOL at you hating on Dirk for leading GERMANY to the quarterfinals of the World Championships, succeeding where Italy, Puerto Rico, and others didn't.

So, sure, if - when the Mavs win the title - you actually man up and give him props, then maybe it offsets this hate, but as I mentioned, I'd put good money on the fact that you will either cop pleas and say he didn't win the team the title, or you will make a post and use the whole thing as a backhanded compliment.

FYI: No Mavs fan on this board has compared him to Larry Bird in my memory. I certainly haven't, and if that makes you so furious that the media would compare a tall white guy to Larry Bird, then really, I am sorry. But that's not enough to justify your irrational, bitchmade hatred.

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>So, leading a team to the NBA Finals and then winning 2
>games, and losing several others on what is at best
>questionable officiating,

Dude, you can't cop pleas like that. You simply can't. Refs making bad calls is part of the game. Players throughout history have found ways to win even when the calls aren't going their way. Blaming the refs is never a reasonable excuse. Ever.


But those two extra games make him okay in
>your mind. I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit. I'm gonna
>guess that, when the Mavs win a title, you'll find a way to
>say it wasn't Dirk's doing, or that "they wouldn't have won
>the title without Jason Terry" as if that somehow means that
>Dirk isn't the best player on the team. (e.g.: me saying, "The
>Heat wouldn't have won the title without James Posey" as a
>justification to a post saying "Dwyane Wade Sucks")

That's not true at all. I've said several times Dirk won't win as the leader of his team. If he leads his team and they win, I'll cop to it, I promise. If Dirk is scoring 15 and 10, and Jason Terry is scoring 28 with 7 assists, then that's one thing. But if Dirk is balling and leads them to the trophy, I'll admit it.


>Also. STOP COPPING PLEAS DIRK WAS MONEY THROUGHOUT THE
>PLAYOFFS. Seriously, you cop more pleas. Admit it. Dirk balled
>his ass off in an EPIC Game 7 against the defending champions.
>Sorry. He did. You know it. It makes you furious, but he did.

Um. I seem to recall that they were up by 20 and almost blew it. You're absolutely right that Dirk's shots were dropping, and his offense was top notch. But they came ONE SHOT away from losing after winning by TWENTY in the 2nd quarter. If you'd like to go and look at the play-by-play (which I did to confirm this), at LEAST 3/4ths of the shots San Antonio made to catch up after being down by twenty were slam dunks and layups. How does that translate, that all of San Antonio's points were scored in the paint and they almost made a comeback to embarrass a team that was up by twenty? I'll let you decide.

I admit that Dirk's offense was very impressive that game, and late in the game when he FINALLY played in the paint, he emerged victorious. That's what he needs to do to become a champion.

>He balled his ass off throughout the playoffs, and then
>struggled somewhat against a Pat Riley coached defense - hmm,
>I wonder if we compiled a list of All-Star players who
>struggled somewhat against a Pat Riley coached defense over
>the last 25 years, would you be calling them soft and saying
>they don't show up in big games?

But as I said, it wasn't the first time he hasn't showed up in big games. Come on, man. On defense or on offense, he has struggled many times in the playoffs. This isn't hate, this is fact.

>
>Point remains, HE BALLED HIS ASS OFF THROUGHOUT THE PLAYOFFS
>AND YOU KNOW IT. and it makes you SO mad that you try to
>attack his performance on the GERMAN NATIONAL TEAM! LOL at you
>hating on Dirk for leading GERMANY to the quarterfinals of
>the World Championships, succeeding where Italy, Puerto Rico,
>and others didn't.

The point remains, great jumpshooting during a playoff series does NOT a champion make. He must play defense in the paint. Shit, when his jumper isn't falling, the solution isn't to take MORE JUMPERS, it's to PLAY IN THE PAINT. The point here is that he hasn't helped his teammates. And LMAO at Italy and Puerto Rico, teams where their best players are FAR worse than Dirk Nowitzki.

>
>So, sure, if - when the Mavs win the title - you actually man
>up and give him props, then maybe it offsets this hate, but as
>I mentioned, I'd put good money on the fact that you will
>either cop pleas and say he didn't win the team the title, or
>you will make a post and use the whole thing as a backhanded
>compliment.

You can put good money all you want. I'll take that bet, and if Dallas wins, I'll have a Dirk avi and all of your money.

>FYI: No Mavs fan on this board has compared him to Larry Bird
>in my memory. I certainly haven't, and if that makes you so
>furious that the media would compare a tall white guy to Larry
>Bird, then really, I am sorry. But that's not enough to
>justify your irrational, bitchmade hatred.

There's nothing bitchmade about hating on a guy who in the past has struggled in MANY playoff games and clutch situations, and has in the past blamed his teammates in the media which is bitchmade on its own. If YOU can't see how his behavior has been bitchmade and deserving of hatred in the past, then I'm stunned.

This is a guy who didn't make a single shot in the 4th quarter in the final game last year. This is a guy who let Wade, Payton, and EVERYONE in EVERY GAME OF THE FINALS THAT THEY LOST take the ball to the hole at will. There's absolutely no excuse for people absolutely owning the Mavs in the paint. It's pretty much an accepted fact that Jason Terry was the best player in the Finals for the Mavs last year, no hate at all with that statement. If I were you, I'D be hating on the guy just a bit too. That's all I'm saying. Or you can pass the blame off to Dampier and Diop, like Dirk does.

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>But seriously, get in your 'digs' at his 'lack of a post game'
>now, cause in 2 or 3 years you will just look even dumber
>clinging to your Dirk hate and making posts like these.
>
Who's post game gets BETTER the older they get? HE's already as good as he's ever going to be...

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>Who's post game gets BETTER the older they get?

Grammatical error aside, good point.

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Obviously you haven't watched him play in the last 3 years cause if so you'd see that it has been steadily developing. This is universally agreed upon by NBA experts and writers and you can find plenty of articles detailing just that.

That's a lot of good solid evidence you supplied to back up your assertion that Dallas fans are jokes too. I mean, really, you just won me over like that. I'm a joke. I admit it. Bravo.


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0-0. vs Jacksonville.

>Who's post game gets BETTER the older they get? HE's already
>as good as he's ever going to be...

...you have the courage and audacity to suggest that anybody in the league has the same kind of talent that give them the same kind of ability as MJ? you smoking.

Haven't watched him play? I live in Dallas...my family has season tix to Mav games...i've watched him play his ENTIRE Career...Avery Johnson was the best thing to ever happen to him...and in 10 yrs he finally learned how to go to the post...and you think he's going to get better? you smoking.

Longo - good looking out - i was a bit embarrassed when i read that just now...

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3 points on 1-11 FG, 0-5 from 3-PT

and that was against a bunch of euroscrubs, while Nowitzki was up against NBA all-stars.

Boy, that Dwyane Wade really sucks, don't he?

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...highlight reel after highlight reel of clutch shooting last year in the Finals.

But then again, Wade wouldn't have had all that space to make shot after shot after shot after SHOT in the paint had there been, say, a big tall man with post presence who wants to be a team leader and a champion standing in his way.

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>But then again, Wade wouldn't have had all that space to make
>shot after shot after shot after SHOT in the paint had there
>been, say, a big tall man with post presence who wants to be a
>team leader and a champion standing in his way.


he wouldn't have had all that space if the refs didn't whisle Dallas players for breathing on him.

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You honestly think your team has no problems?

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>You honestly think your team has no problems?

my team is the Knicks, so yeah my team definitely has problems.

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I don't care how bad the reffing is. If the reffing combo is the ghosts of Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Benito Mussolini, the team is still accountable for not adjusting, for not making the plays, for not making free throws, for not playing smart defense, for not playing in the paint. For all of it. If your team gives the refs a chance to decide the game with one call, it is YOUR FAULT, and you better pray to the gods of basketball for forgiveness.

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but did the refs give Wade some ridiculous calls or not? simple question.

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But the point is those calls shouldn't matter.

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you can argue on whether it mattered or not, I'm just saying let's not pretend like it didn't happen.

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i mean, we should have taken care of business on our own, but "a contestable call or two". Try, the entire final 5 minutes of game 3 were a fucking mockery, and the end of Game 5 was a joke as well. Did the Heat deserve to win? sure, they took care of business. But to exponentially understate it like that is hilarious. There were a SHITLOAD of EXTREMELY questionable calls.


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0-0. vs Jacksonville.

NO ONE SHOULD GIVE A FLYING FUCK BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Dallas lost. The refs didn't win, Miami did. If Dallas let it get to a point where the refs can make a call to decide a game, then they've already deserved to lose.

Case in point: the Dirk Nowitzki foul on D-Wade with 1 second left in Game 6. You can contest whether you thought it was a foul or not. There was clearly contact, but you can argue the "let them play the game" theory or the "Dwyane was just pummeling into the offense, someone was bound to hit him" theory or any of that. The bottom line is Dallas shoulda closed off that game earlier, be it first half, second half, or earlier in overtime. The Heat counted their lucky stars Wade won that game for them that day, but it shouldn't have even gotten to that.

I don't care whether the Heat got one call in a game or twenty calls in a game. The bottom line is the Mavericks should not have put themselves in a place where the refs can decide the game.

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http://www.nba.com/media/brand3_400_060830.jpg

http://www.nba.com/media/battier_400_060830.jpg

Also, here's some pics of Dirk doing his favorite hobby on defense: watching.

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oh wait.

THOSE DON'T EXIST. AT LEAST WITHOUT PHOTOSHOP THEY DON'T.

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specifically THE signature moment f that run. i dont see ho the fuck that shit can be ignored.

so its copping pleas to point out that the thing he claims dirk can never do is exactly what he did, effectively, in a big mment in a big game in a big series against a rival that they never could get past?

or... maybe it didnt happen and im just misremembering.

...he took steps towards redeeming himself.

And eventually ended up blowing it by continuing the exact same bullshit that ALMOST cost them against the Spurs.

That season-saving play, you know where it took place? IN THE PAINT. You're absolutely right. Why do you think that Ginobili fouled him so hard? He was probably stunned to see the big man in the paint, so he tried to foul Dirk like Dirk was the 6'6 guy who he models his game after. Big mistake, Manu. Dirk got the momentary W.

That shoulda given him a sign about how to play throughout the rest of the playoffs. But no.

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...this cat ALWAYS CHOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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He's actually TALLER and BIGGER than EVERY SINGLE PLAYER
ON THE US TEAM.

If he'd fucking POST SOME NIGGAZ and BANG maybe he wouldn't
have to rely on his jumpshot all the time.

That way, he could've diversified his arsenal.

He should EASILY be able to post up Elton Brand given
his height advantage.

Then, they would have collapsed on him, and Dirk could've
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If he wasn't soft or scared or whatever he is, he should be able to really bang around in the paint with the best of them. It's not like he's in poor shape, or that he lacks the capacity to finish on offense.

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>He should EASILY be able to post up Elton Brand given
>his height advantage.

Brand's wingspan gives him the reach of a seven footer, so nope.

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But you make a pretty good point to counter O_E's. Brand's wingspan is ridiculous.

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he might be a little taller, but he's not bigger.

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It doesn't matter anyhow, since Howard plays defense against whoever is banging around in the paint, and either Nowitzki isn't there (most likely) or isn't used to playing there at all so he was immediately shut down (also a possibility).

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Which is...sort of the point.

>It doesn't matter anyhow, since Howard plays defense against
>whoever is banging around in the paint, and either Nowitzki
>isn't there (most likely) or isn't used to playing there at
>all so he was immediately shut down (also a possibility).


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I can't believe that. If he starts playing in the paint and the Mavs do even BETTER, it gives me the chance to say "I TOLD YOU SO." What hater in their right mind would forfeit the privilege to prove that he was right?

Man, if next season Dirk plays 25 minutes in the paint every game, not only will Dirk and the Mavs improve, but I'll dance a happy "Longo was right" jig all season long. Shit, I'll root for the Mavs with Dirk in the paint, if I get to say "I told you so" to all these fools.

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Having a 7 foot wingspan does not mean that Brand is effectively
a 7-footer.

Its simply a finger to finger measurement.

Because he's shorter, his arms actually come out of the socket a lower
height than an actual 7 footer, and so, no, even his 7 foot wingspan
does not actually make him 7 feet tall, which again means Dirk
should be able to easily body up and shoot over the top of Elton
Brand. If what you are suggesting was true, we'd recruit centers
based on wingspan instead of height. We recruit based on height
because height is the more important metric.

EDIT: Wingspan, is however, important for stuff like shot-blocking,
etc.

You can argue that DIrk is good, and shouldn't be hated on
to the extent that he is.

His unwilligness is play in the paint is, however, almost beyond
apology or plea coppage. He should score more in the paint.


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>Having a 7 foot wingspan does not mean that Brand is
>effectively
>a 7-footer.

no, having a 7'5" wingspan does.


>Its simply a finger to finger measurement.
>
>Because he's shorter, his arms actually come out of the socket
>a lower
>height than an actual 7 footer, and so, no, even his 7 foot
>wingspan
>does not actually make him 7 feet tall, which again means
>Dirk
>should be able to easily body up and shoot over the top of
>Elton
>Brand.

I didn't say it actually makes him 7 feet tall, I said it gives him the reach of a seven footer. Which it does: Brand has the same standing reach as Chris Kaman, who's 7 feet tall. Which means Dirk should not be able to easily body up and shoot over the top on him.


>If what you are suggesting was true, we'd recruit
>centers
>based on wingspan instead of height. We recruit based on
>height
>because height is the more important metric.

they recuiut based mainly on height because height is usually relatively proportional to wingspan/standing reach. but there are exceptions, such as Brand, who don't follow the norm. Which is why they measure those other metrics as well.


>EDIT: Wingspan, is however, important for stuff like
>shot-blocking,
>etc.

you just said Dirk should be able to easily shoot over the top of Brand despite his wingspan. which is it?


>You can argue that DIrk is good, and shouldn't be hated on
>to the extent that he is.

that's all I've done.

>
>His unwilligness is play in the paint is, however, almost
>beyond
>apology or plea coppage. He should score more in the paint.

agreed.