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"OKparents, does your child have white friends?"


          

was it an adjustment for you?

  

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yes and no adjustment
Dec 15th 2014
1
you do sleep overs?
Dec 15th 2014
2
Yes, but they are still little
Dec 16th 2014
3
What is the white friends talk?
Dec 16th 2014
4
your parents didnt make it a point to undermine your relationships?
Dec 16th 2014
7
lol.
Dec 17th 2014
228
lmao.
Dec 17th 2014
247
:)
Dec 18th 2014
361
lmfao
Dec 16th 2014
13
lol I wanna hear this too
Dec 16th 2014
57
the "white friends" talk?
Dec 16th 2014
12
something like
Dec 16th 2014
41
      Thanks...this is pretty much what I was gonna say nm
Dec 16th 2014
44
      so yeah, totally undermining the friendship
Dec 16th 2014
51
      i'm glad my parents never talked about my white friends like that.
Dec 16th 2014
85
      it doeant serve any kid well. pretty sure thats how racists are cultivat...
Dec 16th 2014
93
           there's this placed call utopia.
Dec 16th 2014
94
           i could not care less about your opinions on just about anything. nm.
Dec 16th 2014
98
                thanks for the chat. means so much.
Dec 16th 2014
101
           i wish them all the best.
Dec 16th 2014
113
           racists are cultivated by being taught they are superior
Dec 17th 2014
230
           Yoda tried to tell you. anger -> fear -> hate
Dec 17th 2014
243
                So the colonialists and their royal masters
Dec 17th 2014
250
                     i dont even think that's racism tbh.
Dec 17th 2014
326
                          how do you explain away the white washing of history?
Dec 17th 2014
327
                          well it's not good will towards men that much is certain
Dec 18th 2014
385
           racists are cultivated by educating kids on America?
Mar 31st 2016
405
      LOL. Basically.
Dec 17th 2014
270
      these are total crap and i've had Blacks do me the same way
Dec 16th 2014
72
      which makes the experiences from which those points
Dec 17th 2014
196
      Lol white friends be the downest most having your back people on earth
Dec 16th 2014
171
           These just sound like examples of privilege...
Dec 16th 2014
182
           or generosity lol
Dec 16th 2014
183
           or both
Dec 16th 2014
185
           Uh no. Saying fuck you cop is probably gonna work out a lot different
Dec 17th 2014
306
                that was 1 of a list of 4 and i offered a possibility for the other 3
Dec 17th 2014
323
                     The rest are economic privilege in some way.
Dec 19th 2014
395
                          so did i miss that white people meeting?
Dec 19th 2014
397
           You are a terrible person
Dec 17th 2014
190
                That would be you projecting again.
Dec 19th 2014
394
           hahaha amazing
Dec 17th 2014
226
girl can you have to explain this one?
Dec 16th 2014
17
why are people acting surprised?
Dec 16th 2014
21
naive as to what?
Dec 16th 2014
24
how will children understand the dynamics of race without and accurate
Dec 16th 2014
47
      relevance?
Dec 16th 2014
65
           RE: relevance?
Dec 16th 2014
67
                mine is a response to the "white friends" talk
Dec 16th 2014
76
                My issue is the "White Friends Talk"...
Dec 16th 2014
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because the notion that it's a common &/or necessary thing is absurd.
Dec 16th 2014
32
Yes, they really are nm
Dec 16th 2014
43
I know what you're talking about
Dec 16th 2014
49
everyone's talking about a conversation(s) that we all have w/
Dec 16th 2014
154
Have no idea what the "white friends" talk is
Dec 16th 2014
46
^^^
Dec 16th 2014
151
So should white parents have the "black friends" talk?
Dec 17th 2014
195
      White parents do have the "black friends" talk
Dec 17th 2014
223
      these replies are reminding me
Dec 17th 2014
260
           why would i choose to keep my white friends
Dec 17th 2014
267
                *blink*
Dec 17th 2014
293
                See: #41
Dec 17th 2014
302
                     Yeah...yall are telling on yourselves
Dec 17th 2014
334
                          I'll be that all day, sweets.
Dec 18th 2014
343
                               what's the point of knowing history if you're just going to ignore it?
Dec 18th 2014
345
                               keep the faith and kill whitey, player.
Dec 18th 2014
347
                                    i hope you thought about the question but decided to act like you didn't...
Dec 18th 2014
350
                                         it was very deep, chief.
Dec 18th 2014
352
                                              i understand. nobody is perfect.
Dec 18th 2014
353
                                                   sho nuff.
Dec 18th 2014
355
                               okay let the record show
Dec 18th 2014
363
                                    Yeah, I guess.
Dec 18th 2014
366
                                         k
Dec 18th 2014
383
                If my parents had told me anything
Dec 17th 2014
294
                     word up.
Dec 17th 2014
317
I live in Sweden.. so yes
Dec 16th 2014
5
my child has friends...............
Dec 16th 2014
6
Adjustment? I have white friends and so does he
Dec 16th 2014
8
^
Dec 16th 2014
26
kinda. way more Latino friends tho
Dec 16th 2014
9
my son used to
Dec 16th 2014
10
Yes and no adjustment needed
Dec 16th 2014
11
this reminds me of my childhood friend Eric
Dec 16th 2014
14
RE: this reminds me of my childhood friend Eric
Dec 16th 2014
78
Not a parent but some of yall acting brand new in here.
Dec 16th 2014
15
what did anyone say...
Dec 16th 2014
18
i think she is referring to the way people are responding to
Dec 16th 2014
19
      Afrogirl's reply is dumb as shit...at least what it insinuates is....
Dec 16th 2014
35
           lol
Dec 16th 2014
48
           No you're dumb as shit
Dec 16th 2014
50
                My priorities aren't focusing on things that frame my childs view of the...
Dec 16th 2014
52
                Also, your lame ass reply said nothing about fighting white privilege......
Dec 16th 2014
56
                Touched a nerve huh? Sit down nm
Dec 16th 2014
59
                     When it comes to Black children, yes, my nerve is very large and exposed...
Dec 16th 2014
61
                u dont have to fight against privilege
Dec 16th 2014
66
                     why would you leave it up to the child to process such a thing?
Dec 16th 2014
68
                          right.
Dec 16th 2014
74
                          wat
Dec 16th 2014
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                          maybe not
Dec 16th 2014
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                               grown ass adults don't know what privilege is
Dec 16th 2014
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                                    do they not know what it is or do they just not have a name for it?
Dec 16th 2014
91
                                         through experience or through talk?
Dec 16th 2014
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                                              both.
Dec 16th 2014
99
                                                   i feel like most of those lessons
Dec 16th 2014
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                                                        i definitely feel like there's a way to
Dec 16th 2014
138
                          Carlton Banks racial identity episode
Dec 16th 2014
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so u gotta have a white privilege talk to have white friends?
Dec 16th 2014
30
Providing our children with unnecessary baggage is good Black parenting
Dec 16th 2014
36
      Ask Laurence Otis Graham n/m
Dec 16th 2014
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           what does that have to do with having white friends?
Dec 16th 2014
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           who? why? what?
Dec 16th 2014
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no kids and I agree...
Dec 16th 2014
42
Not that I know of. SMH.
Dec 16th 2014
16
yeah...it wasn't an adjustment but lately (since shes in Kindergarten)
Dec 16th 2014
20
That's sad. And yet many okps in here acting brand new
Dec 17th 2014
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      I do appreciate this share.
Dec 17th 2014
309
they family.
Dec 16th 2014
22
yup :)
Dec 16th 2014
23
Yes and it's not that big a deal.
Dec 16th 2014
25
YES AND IT KILLS ME INSIDE
Dec 16th 2014
27
LOL
Dec 16th 2014
28
LMAO
Dec 16th 2014
29
GREAT LOL OF CHINA
Dec 16th 2014
31
I can't wait to see the parent's faces on my daughters bday when
Dec 16th 2014
33
      perfect.
Dec 16th 2014
69
My daughter doesn't have any black friends
Dec 16th 2014
34
no
Dec 16th 2014
40
Damn yall really not giving the White Man is the Devil talk?
Dec 16th 2014
45
NO child should be raised believing that evil only lurks behind white sk...
Dec 16th 2014
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      Even though plenty of white children are taught
Dec 16th 2014
148
Afrogirl Lost, you might wanna explain "the talk"
Dec 16th 2014
53
Atillah broke it down nicely in #41
Dec 16th 2014
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      that's HIS breakdown. And i'm not even sure it's him agreeing to....
Dec 16th 2014
62
           hee haw @ modern times.
Dec 16th 2014
64
                If you're maneuvering through the racist climate of 2014 like it's 1960
Dec 16th 2014
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                     what's a 1960's mindset?
Dec 16th 2014
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                     nobody in this thread was alive in the 60s
Dec 16th 2014
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                     NO, people are regurgitating traditions, ideals, beliefs, limitations, e...
Dec 16th 2014
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                          eh
Dec 16th 2014
81
                          the tone of the post sprung from the idea that many of us have prejudice...
Dec 16th 2014
83
                          I really wish you wouldn't leave your posts so under developed yo....
Dec 16th 2014
87
                               the 'white friends talk' is not my idea, but i fully support it.
Dec 16th 2014
90
                                    Do you enjoy reading?
Dec 16th 2014
                                         and here's where i thank my parents.
Dec 16th 2014
107
                                              funny thing is, I used to be on some of the same shit being spewed here....
Dec 16th 2014
109
                          No one is regurgitating or reliving anything
Dec 17th 2014
234
                               the tone i'm referring to is cumulative....
Dec 17th 2014
252
                                    yeah it got real warm and POASTY didn't it?
Dec 17th 2014
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                     Wake the fuck up Black man.
Dec 17th 2014
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my daughter ;prolly has one black friend
Dec 16th 2014
55
Yes. Why would anyone need to adjust this aint 1960?
Dec 16th 2014
60
Yup, theres only 3-4 that look like them in each class
Dec 16th 2014
63
my son lil click looks like a benetton ad...all flavors
Dec 16th 2014
75
How do you teach a kid younger than 16 that whitey is out to get them?
Dec 16th 2014
80
why is whitey out to get them? can the child just fall into that answer?
Dec 16th 2014
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      who is to say whitey IS out to "get them"?
Dec 16th 2014
103
           honestly, the idea that okp is 'ran' by white folk is kinda wild to me.
Dec 16th 2014
112
           we've been down this road before (c) Teena Marie
Dec 16th 2014
125
           History books, statistics, the police, photos of
Dec 18th 2014
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RE: Our children don't live in the same world we do.
Dec 16th 2014
89
are you white?
Dec 16th 2014
92
this post really made me appreciate my parents all over again.
Dec 16th 2014
95
me too.
Dec 16th 2014
116
lol two sides to every coin
Dec 16th 2014
120
now that i got.
Dec 16th 2014
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      word.
Dec 16th 2014
133
           mine did.
Dec 16th 2014
141
^^^
Dec 17th 2014
258
i just realized this might read funny
Dec 16th 2014
121
growing up we were one of the very few white families in our neighborhoo...
Dec 16th 2014
97
they don't. that idea blacks doing you dirty is just the status quo.
Dec 16th 2014
100
not for a fucking child you moron
Dec 16th 2014
105
      gotdammit, your whiteness is showing! put that petty name calling shit
Dec 16th 2014
110
           lol fuck off. i dont like u b/c ive seen how u operate, dont go victim ...
Dec 16th 2014
111
                real quick I think you are just interpreting the 'talk' as a tad more
Dec 16th 2014
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                quote here
Dec 16th 2014
117
                you don't think that's true in a lot of cases though?
Dec 16th 2014
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                I don't believe it's a good course of action to send your kids into the
Dec 16th 2014
129
                I get your approach as well, and I think your thinking is valid
Dec 16th 2014
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                     it doesn't stop at weariness.
Dec 16th 2014
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                          obviously constantly reinforcing positive self image is top priority
Dec 16th 2014
139
                any kid willing to skate while his friends get in trouble aint shit
Dec 16th 2014
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                I tend to advocate it-- here's why
Dec 16th 2014
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                     i can get w/that.
Dec 18th 2014
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                          Cool now I get it
Dec 18th 2014
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                               solid.
Dec 18th 2014
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                there's nuance in the talk that's not communicated here.
Dec 16th 2014
118
                how did you explain to your child why black folks are mad?
Dec 16th 2014
122
                You misinterpreted
Dec 17th 2014
240
                     integrity is integrity. period.
Dec 17th 2014
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                          it is what is man,
Dec 17th 2014
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Don't u think growing up around all non whites had something to do
Dec 17th 2014
310
most okps live in one of the top 10 segregated cities
Dec 16th 2014
102
...Little Rock, Arkansas?
Dec 16th 2014
106
None of those "most segregated" lists account for social integration
Dec 16th 2014
108
      seems like ppl in here don't have access to that
Dec 16th 2014
114
           my surprise is that people actively prevent that access.
Dec 16th 2014
119
           that sounds like a bad assumption given the fact in #102
Dec 16th 2014
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           my reply in #119 isn't related to that at all.
Dec 16th 2014
153
           lol...where u get that from
Dec 16th 2014
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                RE: left up to me he probably won't be around white people much
Dec 16th 2014
157
                     Shorty said that she don't be around white people like that
Dec 16th 2014
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           our situation is more income inequality than anything else
Dec 16th 2014
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                This is what I was saying above. it is CLASSISM not RACISM
Dec 16th 2014
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                she's probably going to public schools for k-12
Dec 16th 2014
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                we sending ours to public schools
Dec 16th 2014
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                     We like our zoned schools. he only thing that would keep her out
Dec 16th 2014
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                meh, the 2 are tightly integrated though
Dec 16th 2014
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                i beg to differ...
Dec 16th 2014
142
                man at first I thought you were saying Acres was in between the ward and...
Dec 18th 2014
354
                yea i'd imagine income equality is a big factor in segregation
Dec 16th 2014
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                     you confuse explanation with justification
Dec 16th 2014
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                          don't care. didn't ask
Dec 16th 2014
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                               lol wtf
Dec 16th 2014
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                               you specifically talked about his reply bro
Dec 16th 2014
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                               didn't ask about none of that.
Dec 16th 2014
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                                    anyway I think maybe you're just NY bashing which is cool
Dec 16th 2014
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                                         he bought NYC up....not me
Dec 16th 2014
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                                              oh aight. doesn't matter to me none. I've seen you NY bash on here
Dec 16th 2014
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                                                   He's talked a lot about NYC's segregation
Dec 16th 2014
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                                                        link?
Dec 16th 2014
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                               smh...that is some South Philly shit fo real
Dec 16th 2014
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Shit I had white friends as a kid
Dec 16th 2014
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I have no issues my kids having white friends, I don't want my kids
Dec 16th 2014
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if you couldn't tune their minds just right, wouldn't a superiority
Dec 16th 2014
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Exactly it's a shame to see a Blk person with no Blk friends
Dec 17th 2014
313
not a parent but reflecting on my own childhood
Dec 16th 2014
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Similar
Dec 16th 2014
186
My stepdaughter has white friends.
Dec 16th 2014
156
People are being naive but the "white friends" talk is definitely a....
Dec 16th 2014
161
what makes today's "racial climate" any worse than the 60s, 70s or 80s
Dec 16th 2014
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this is your barometer?
Dec 16th 2014
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I mean...
Dec 16th 2014
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But they don't all get shot for mouthing off
Dec 17th 2014
222
im still not clear on the difference btwn the white friends talk
Dec 16th 2014
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its basically the same thing
Dec 16th 2014
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      ^^^^
Dec 17th 2014
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I just ain't know what she meant
Dec 16th 2014
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      exactly
Dec 17th 2014
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RE: OKparents, does your child have white friends?
Dec 16th 2014
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i have a feeling this is a huge part of it
Dec 16th 2014
167
And these are college educated people working in corp america
Dec 16th 2014
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      no. they have degrees but make rap albums in their dad's basement
Dec 17th 2014
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           dan is very disconnected from this kind of content, speciifcally.
Dec 17th 2014
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           Mom's basement or Grandmama's not Dad's Deej
Dec 17th 2014
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                Pay Attn.
Dec 17th 2014
273
                     shots fired at 'sha and the legacy'.
Dec 17th 2014
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                          Man, you need to SIT DOWN!
Dec 17th 2014
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                               get a grip.
Dec 17th 2014
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And if you have white friends you know there's certain things they can.....
Dec 16th 2014
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      RE: And if you have white friends you know there's certain things they c...
Dec 17th 2014
225
A+ Post would read again
Dec 16th 2014
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This is a really ugly post
Dec 16th 2014
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extremely so. and archaic as well.
Dec 16th 2014
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Yep. They have friends of all races.
Dec 16th 2014
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Of course just like me, but I live in Cali
Dec 16th 2014
178
Not really.....
Dec 17th 2014
328
Wow at this post
Dec 16th 2014
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"espousing race blind ideology" ?? WTF?? LOL...smh...I swear...
Dec 17th 2014
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you laughing with your mouth wide open, but she's absolutely right.
Dec 17th 2014
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      link every post in this thread that supports this notion.
Dec 17th 2014
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           dont tell me what to do.
Dec 17th 2014
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                eat the cake
Dec 17th 2014
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A actively try to teach my daughter about race, but she doesn't get it
Dec 17th 2014
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      yeah fucking right.
Dec 17th 2014
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           holla at me when you're raising a mixed toddler in a white environment
Dec 17th 2014
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                a toddler identifying other humans as beige?
Dec 17th 2014
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                dude, if you've ever RAISED a child you know they make shit up
Dec 17th 2014
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                how much television does your child watch?
Dec 17th 2014
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                     None.
Dec 17th 2014
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                Young children are strangely literal
Dec 17th 2014
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                     what african culture have you preserved in your home?
Dec 17th 2014
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                          i had ZERO "african" culture in my home as a kid
Dec 17th 2014
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                          this makes perfect sense.
Dec 17th 2014
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                               but yet ive been to africa and dated a Ndebele for 4 years
Dec 17th 2014
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                          nope. she doesn't know what an Asian, European, or
Dec 17th 2014
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                not only dont most okp dont have kids. they dont have a MIXED kid.
Dec 17th 2014
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                     so what you had a child with a white woman.
Dec 17th 2014
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                          Why not the vitirol for John? His wife is Korean.
Dec 17th 2014
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                               mongo and jstew's black wives aint shit, probably.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    RE: mongo and jstew's black wives aint shit, probably.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    Never go full armchair activist retard.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    It was believable for a while too
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    someone had to type it. and im willing to defend it.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                         RE: someone had to type it. and im willing to defend it.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                         I really hope you don’t get caught reaching for your waistband
Dec 17th 2014
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                                              do you really mean this? you promise?
Dec 17th 2014
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                                              Absolutely. You have zero worth to human existence.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                                   ok. now type something nice.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                                        Do you actively know you’re garbage?
Dec 17th 2014
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                                              start some shit with some cops ==
Dec 17th 2014
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                                                   Fair point, but he's gotta do *something*
Dec 17th 2014
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                                                        *waves at officer while saying hello* Bang!!
Dec 17th 2014
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                                                             That might work, especially if he's got his phone in his hand
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    Hmmmm. Let me ask you. Where you "successfully" raised?
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    tough call.
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    lol u ain't shyt bruh
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    that nigga is trippin up the stairs...
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    LOL What a fantastic punk bitch post!
Dec 17th 2014
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                                    john ordered a woman up from korea like she a gotdamn piece of pizza.
Jan 18th 2015
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                                         too fucking funny. i probably giggled myself to sleep that night.
Jan 18th 2015
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She didn't really, until college.
Dec 17th 2014
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yup and cousins
Dec 17th 2014
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I came back and LOL
Dec 17th 2014
245
funniest part....only 2 people answered no and are not
Dec 17th 2014
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Girl, I'm so over this place lol
Dec 17th 2014
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This happens on this board a lot, ppl judging ppl because they only
Dec 17th 2014
315
      Only by dumb niggas saving white women
Dec 17th 2014
330
      well, this isn't true:
Dec 18th 2014
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           yup
Dec 18th 2014
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           Oh ok
Dec 18th 2014
375
archive this post please.
Dec 17th 2014
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damn deadzombie out deejobram'd deejobram
Dec 17th 2014
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lol nygga was legit flustered
Dec 17th 2014
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not really. i dont know why he aint been BANNED yet tho?
Dec 17th 2014
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      you want me banned, dog?
Dec 17th 2014
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      You need to have a seat.
Dec 17th 2014
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      It's not as cool as you getting torn to shreds by wolves
Dec 17th 2014
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           does your wife wonder why you always type with a scowl?
Dec 17th 2014
285
                Please post a youtube video of you lighting yourself on fire.
Dec 17th 2014
                Please post a youtube video of you lighting yourself on fire.
Dec 17th 2014
292
      zombies don't stay dead
Dec 17th 2014
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           In that case, CAN WE HAVE AN ignore BUTTON PLEASE???
Dec 17th 2014
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LMAO at OKP troll royal rumble!!! n/m
Dec 17th 2014
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I am entertained (C) NoPayne
Dec 17th 2014
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White friends talk is not malicious
Dec 17th 2014
261
they used 'precocious' and 'malicious'?
Dec 17th 2014
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i never heard PRECOCIOUS until i studied for the GRE
Dec 17th 2014
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I'm paraphrasing a talk given to me around 4th grade
Dec 17th 2014
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      bless your heart.
Dec 17th 2014
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i didn't have this talk and still knew better
Dec 17th 2014
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      When there are two systems of punishment at schools
Dec 17th 2014
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           i think the pushback is from the 'don't trust your white friends'
Dec 17th 2014
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                But who said don't trust your white friends though?
Dec 17th 2014
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                     apparently you did you racist
Dec 17th 2014
335
                     wasn't malcom x a racist?
Dec 18th 2014
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                     Malcolm ain't have white friends
Dec 18th 2014
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                          im sure he was friendly to a number of whites.
Dec 18th 2014
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                          Correction
Dec 18th 2014
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                               you messin up man
Dec 18th 2014
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                     i am entirely fine w/however i sound to you in this post, love.
Dec 18th 2014
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                          my white friend would have corrected me
Dec 18th 2014
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                     right here, toots:
Dec 18th 2014
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                          Don't count on != Don't trust
Dec 18th 2014
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                               i disagree.
Dec 18th 2014
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I had the "white friends" talk when I was about 10.
Dec 17th 2014
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*hugs*
Dec 17th 2014
266
this is sad.
Dec 17th 2014
282
i dont think them sharing a high school would've made a bit
Dec 17th 2014
284
or like with so many people
Dec 17th 2014
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      or that.
Dec 17th 2014
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I had the SAME experience
Dec 18th 2014
370
he has white school friends...
Dec 17th 2014
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The saddest part about this is that kids don't care/don't know.
Dec 17th 2014
288
another white response. a postcard from utopia.
Dec 17th 2014
289
also. infants are able to nonverbally categorize people by race
Dec 17th 2014
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RE: also. infants are able to nonverbally categorize people by race
Dec 17th 2014
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what's the solution?
Dec 17th 2014
298
my moms used to collect those lil nygga angel statuettes
Dec 17th 2014
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      This post really does have it all tho
Dec 17th 2014
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      I choked on my damn food onthis reply
Dec 18th 2014
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you can keep thinking that if you want to.
Dec 17th 2014
333
i am convinced some of you folks have never met a white person.
Dec 17th 2014
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what kind of messages do you think white parents are passing down?
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fucked up ones, just like the black parents-- generally.
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*looks at ur avi*
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When situations arise is a good strategy
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thats actually exactly what yall are doing
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Well when do you think parents bring it up?
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a bitch is a bitch.
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      all 'fuck you overs' aren't the same.
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      i know.
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      yes. completely ignore context of what was said
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           the context is, ppl ain't shit, generally.
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                naw.
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                ^^ He's pretty consistent
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That avi ain't gonna make u seem unbiased....
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or they might actually know some white people.....
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      ^^^^^^^^
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The dynamics of this one video per the exchanges here are hilarious...
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that cute ass video made this entire post so worthwhile yo....lol...
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lol at White posters kumbaya shit in here
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it's not just white posters
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      THAT'S what you got outta this?? THAT???!!?? smh....
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      Hyperbolic shit goes both ways
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           what's this "Y'all"?? you won't find a single post with that angle from ...
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                . . .
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                     terminology glitch maybe?
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                          cuz you said it up top...lol
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                          How are y'all making the leap to baggage = color blind???
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                          feel free to correct yourself
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                               nothing to correct. confirmed the "Y'all" you refer to doesn't = Me....
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                                    it does
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                                         You've yet to back that up. Which clearly shows me that you're
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      its not but I can see the black perspective to some degree
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           i just realized
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                yeah I'm curious why he's so up in arms
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                I dunno why I don't hate white ppl.
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                     I dont either
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                     cool.
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                     http://media3.giphy.com/media/62PP2yEIAZF6g/giphy.gif
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                     LOL
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                     omg please please hate white people
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misguided (dumb) black child taken advantage of by Devil
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Cmon, man. That kid looks like a real-life Kenny McCormick.
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no really. I want a trophy for this. can it be archived?
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RE: no really. I want a trophy for this. can it be archived?
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nah. seriously. why don't my shit get archived?
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I live in Sweden, so yes.
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didn't realize this was a two year old thread...
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tomjohn29
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1. "yes and no adjustment"
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we are still minorities in this country

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Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
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2. "you do sleep overs?"
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3. "Yes, but they are still little"
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We'll have the "white friends" talk when they are around 9 or so. *sigh*

  

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4. "What is the white friends talk?"
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I must've missed out on that


but im banned tho.
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7. "your parents didnt make it a point to undermine your relationships?"
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Lol

  

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228. "lol."
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...
we understand you can easily come back and we're not impressed. how about getting a life first.© okpdan

  

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247. "lmao."
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361. ":)"
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n/m

  

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13. "lmfao"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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57. "lol I wanna hear this too "
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12. "the "white friends" talk?"
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41. "something like"
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"you friends will get away with things you can't"

I think the "work twice as hard" gets thrown in there around this time if not re-enforced. what else--

Something along the lines of 'Don't count on them having your back if you get in trouble with them"

Something about cops-- I think it was they'll single you out should you get into trouble while with said friends.

This was what I remember from the 80's version.

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44. "Thanks...this is pretty much what I was gonna say nm"
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51. "so yeah, totally undermining the friendship"
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>Something along the lines of 'Don't count on them having your
>back if you get in trouble with them"

  

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85. "i'm glad my parents never talked about my white friends like that."
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LOL

shit.

i think it's a reason i have been able to get along socially w/white ppl for as long as i can remember.

i don't think that talk would've served ME well.

fuck you.

  

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93. "it doeant serve any kid well. pretty sure thats how racists are cultivat..."
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94. "there's this placed call utopia."
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where shit is sweet and all people can eat.

this isn't that.

...

do you want your child to exploit or be exploited?

just kidding, but for real.

  

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98. "i could not care less about your opinions on just about anything. nm."
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101. "thanks for the chat. means so much."
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113. "i wish them all the best."
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i'd have missed out on some of my closest, most reliable friends if i'd heard a talk like that and actually taken it to heart.

if they'd waited 'too long' i'd have already developed my own ideas about race and white ppl and would've either challenged what they said or have lost a bit of respect for my parents.

so i'm glad it didn't happen. or if it did i was able to minimize the damage and put the talk in context. but i really don't remember hearing that stuff. i heard other ppl say they'd heard it but it was never communicated to me by any of my parents. thankfully.

fuck you.

  

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230. "racists are cultivated by being taught they are superior "
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to everyone else based on the color of their skin from birth. That is the only way.

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243. "Yoda tried to tell you. anger -> fear -> hate"
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Superiority is just window dressing

  

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250. "So the colonialists and their royal masters"
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hated Africa? Manifest destiny and the white man's burden are the product of hate and anger? I'm not following and I love yodaisms.

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326. "i dont even think that's racism tbh."
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Manifest destiny and colonialism were motivated by the same shit Atilla the Hun was. Do you think he was racist towards the Romans or Visigoths? Or did he just want their land and their shit?

Im saying that i think racism is personal first, and it only needs to develop on its own once to be implanted into a generational cycle. A sense of superiority may be incidental to that, but it starts with negative emotions.




  

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327. "how do you explain away the white washing of history?"
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385. "well it's not good will towards men that much is certain"
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and if not racism whatever we call it certainly can not be ascribed to any type of humane behavior, but only something from the unfathomable darkness that is the human heart.

>Manifest destiny and colonialism were motivated by the same
>shit Atilla the Hun was. Do you think he was racist towards
>the Romans or Visigoths?

He may very well have been. Being a barbarian, I'd argue that was something akin to racism in that day and a Hun hating a Goth would be akin to black on black crime. I'd also argue he had some degree of hatred towards Rome given their own brutal methods of conquering, plus if your're going to commit to killing someone it's very rare that your motivation is love based.

Or did he just want their land and their shit?

People tend to covet when the other person has something they themselves do not possess. It's their anger at not having what they feel should be theirs that leads to such acts of conquest. The oil in Ukraine for example.
>
>I'm saying that i think racism is personal first, and it only
>needs to develop on its own once to be implanted into a
>generational cycle. A sense of superiority may be incidental
>to that, but it starts with negative emotions.

Well of course it's personal. Europeans had to first meet Africans and observe their customs before they could exploit them. I'll throw you a bone in also saying that those African should have played it like Tokugawa and isolated themselves from said group, but I digress. Too late now right?



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405. "racists are cultivated by educating kids on America?"
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mind you, this post was a troll

but yeah teaching your kids the definition of injustice is not the same as teaching them racial intolerance

  

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270. "LOL. Basically."
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72. "these are total crap and i've had Blacks do me the same way"
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>"you friends will get away with things you can't"

uhhh like how i could light a girl's hair on fire my senior year and not get expelled but another kid and "play slap" another in computer graphics class and he is expelled out the school district

i had the grades, he didnt


>
>I think the "work twice as hard" gets thrown in there around
>this time if not re-enforced. what else--


oh, you mean like me vs "pretty tony"?
i had to work four times as hard to get half the recognition dude did
c'est life



>Something along the lines of 'Don't count on them having your
>back if you get in trouble with them"


oh you mean how me and a group of the homies go "stealin" and we get caught and one of them starts squealing on the rest of us in the back of the squad car?



>Something about cops-- I think it was they'll single you out
>should you get into trouble while with said friends.


i was the tallest and darkest so easiest to spot


>This was what I remember from the 80's version.


i grew up in the 90s
but everybody i hung with was black
but i was the only black in most of my "gifted" classes but in the halls and at lunch time and where i grew up i was with all my black ppl

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196. "which makes the experiences from which those points"
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were developed total crap as well. And I guess in a way says the sum experiences of your forebears are crap as well.

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171. "Lol white friends be the downest most having your back people on earth"
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You get harassed by the police your white friend is in his face cussing the cop out

"why you messing with my friend bro, FUCK YOU COP"
"Hey bro come do shots with us, PUT YOUR WALLET AWAY BRO!"
"Bro I just rolled 15 joints you want 14 of them? PUT YOUR WALLET AWAY BRO"
"You need to crash bro, here take my house for the next month. I'll go sleep in my other house!"

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182. "These just sound like examples of privilege..."
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>"why you messing with my friend bro, FUCK YOU COP"
>"Hey bro come do shots with us, PUT YOUR WALLET AWAY BRO!"
>"Bro I just rolled 15 joints you want 14 of them? PUT YOUR
>WALLET AWAY BRO"
>"You need to crash bro, here take my house for the next month.
>I'll go sleep in my other house!"

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183. "or generosity lol"
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185. "or both"
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306. "Uh no. Saying fuck you cop is probably gonna work out a lot different "
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For one of us than one of y'all....that's kinda fact at this point...

prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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323. "that was 1 of a list of 4 and i offered a possibility for the other 3"
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I wasnt discounting #1 for what it is

  

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395. "The rest are economic privilege in some way."
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Sure, it's generous, but you can't fault folks for not giving what they don't have anyway...
or not having the mindset to give what they aren't used to having, even.

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397. "so did i miss that white people meeting?"
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Was i supposed to redeem a voucher or something for my economic privilege package?

Because i havent gotten mine

  

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190. "You are a terrible person"
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394. "That would be you projecting again."
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226. "hahaha amazing"
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>"Bro I just rolled 15 joints you want 14 of them? PUT YOUR
>WALLET AWAY BRO"

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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17. "girl can you have to explain this one?"
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21. "why are people acting surprised?"
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are we really that naive?

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24. "naive as to what?"
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i have confidence in most kids to peep/understand the basic dynamics of race

the birds and the bees not so much lol

what talk needs to be had about "white friends"...it's not the same as the talk about racism...or privilege...but of white fucking friends...that's a pretty specific and mysterious talk that might involve some of those other things...but yea...

what are people being naive about?

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47. "how will children understand the dynamics of race without and accurate"
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cultural/historical reference?

  

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65. "relevance?"
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that should be taught...im not saying it shouldn't be...more often than not it should be experienced and then explained imho

but my point is teaching those things has nothing to do with "white friends"

u don't need that knowledge to have diverse friends

it's not essential within that context...

the police thing is iffy but is probably already taught when the rest of those cultural lessons is taught

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67. "RE: relevance?"
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i think there's where we disagree.

i'd rather not my child go into the 'situation' unarmed.

i don't think a responsive plan is the main plan.

i think i prefer to be proactive.

the 'white talk' isn't just about white friends. it's about how the child fits into the world.

i didn't suggest a white talk in the original post.

i only asked if it was an adjustment.

im curious as to how you all deal.

there are a lot of factors in place.

environment.

money.

time.

it's definitely a balancing act.

  

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76. "mine is a response to the "white friends" talk"
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yea, u didn't say that...

i thought that sounded odd

talking to kids about race isn't a bad idea to me...depending on age

i don't want to arm my future kids with prejudice nor do i want them to have them unprepared...i think kids are smart enough to pick up on a lot at a young age but aren't mature enough to understand how it will play out in their own lives until at least 3-5th grade

it's not reactive...it's allowing them to gather enough experiences for it not to go in one ear and out the other lol

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84. "My issue is the "White Friends Talk"..."
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still have NO clue what the hell that even is...

and it's always amusing to see you guys read and frame my fairly clear responses in a way that suggests i'm somehow this white folks worshiping dude with a low sense of pride in my lineage, culture and heritage....
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32. "because the notion that it's a common &/or necessary thing is absurd. "
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43. "Yes, they really are nm"
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49. "I know what you're talking about"
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154. "everyone's talking about a conversation(s) that we all have w/"
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our parents growing up regardless of whether we have white friends, tho.

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46. "Have no idea what the "white friends" talk is"
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My parents explained to me about the challenges black people face in america, but never was taught to me because of which friends I had.

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151. "^^^"
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195. "So should white parents have the "black friends" talk?"
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smh

I thought we were trying to get away from this.


Glad I never did this dumb shit with my kid, probably why she has a ton of white and black friends that get along with each other just fine.

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223. "White parents do have the "black friends" talk"
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You can be friends or date them, but don't bring them home.

Don't have them in my house

Pick a better grade of friends

No one's really trying to get away they're just ignoring the reality and if anything getting closer to how blatant things once were. 2015 is going to be a great year for racism.

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260. "these replies are reminding me"
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of #blacklivesmatter
then the #alllivesmatter


i'm really looking at yall like
0_o

who said dont have white friends?
who said they shouldnt have white friends?
yall have inserted all sort of things that ya'll are telling on yourselves

if you dont know
say you dont know
but this shit?
smh*

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267. "why would i choose to keep my white friends"
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after my parents have told me the friends WILL stab me in the back? or that i can't count on them when i need them?

it's like if we have the 'jump off a bridge' talk where the parent told me i'd die if i jumped off a bridge but didn't tell me not to jump off the bridge.

LOL

please.

fuck you.

  

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293. "*blink*"
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yep yall doing it to yourselves

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302. "See: #41"
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do you think that's the way to talk to a kid about race?

fuck you.

  

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334. "Yeah...yall are telling on yourselves"
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343. "I'll be that all day, sweets."
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Bc I cant imagine how awful it would've been to hear my parents tell me the lie that my white friends would not be trustworthy and I'd never say it to my kids. I'm glad I never heard that lie.

fuck you.

  

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345. "what's the point of knowing history if you're just going to ignore it?"
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347. "keep the faith and kill whitey, player."
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fuck you.

  

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350. "i hope you thought about the question but decided to act like you didn't..."
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352. "it was very deep, chief."
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and i'm too in love w/white ppl and white power to answer it b/c the ramifications would shake the foundations of my world. so instead i choose to ridicule you b/c i can't handle my truth.

pray for me.

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353. "i understand. nobody is perfect."
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355. "sho nuff."
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fuck you.

  

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363. "okay let the record show"
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SoWhat entrusts racial parity in his white friends and for his children with white friends in all things always

*fingers guns*

yeah you own that
and um good luck

you want to entrust all men with sexual parity as well
all the time always?

i mean while we here lets go for all of it
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366. "Yeah, I guess."
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I've had sex with plenty non-black dudes. Even white ones.

My dick is not a racist ((c) John Mayer).

fuck you.

  

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383. "k"
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294. "If my parents had told me anything"
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regarding who I could be friends with when I was 9, I am sure I wouldn't have been friends with them anymore.

If my parents had said anything regarding that I should be wary of my black friends I'm sure that would have affected me for my entire life.

The only time my parents said anything about my friends was when they were just genuinely bad kids... those all happened to be white..and they were bad news LOL.

  

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317. "word up."
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fuck you.

  

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5. "I live in Sweden.. so yes"
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there isn't anything to adjust to since their mom is one too

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6. "my child has friends..............."
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that happen to be white.
yes.
but she's a toddler so.....

  

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8. "Adjustment? I have white friends and so does he"
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He's 10, and goes to a diverse school and has a diverse group of friends; black, white, indian, latino...and he's never known any difference.

Even though my childhood was more segregated, I've always had a diverse group of friends, so it makes me happy to see him free of some of the hang-ups I might have experienced.

...and yeah they do sleepovers.

  

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26. "^"
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---
Stoicism and chill.
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Stay +.
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9. "kinda. way more Latino friends tho"
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America is gonna be en espanol in the next fifty yrs


does it really matter?

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10. "my son used to"
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but he fought with him so not anymore


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11. "Yes and no adjustment needed"
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Kids are only fucked up when we, the parents, are fucked up. They just like to play and have fun.

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14. "this reminds me of my childhood friend Eric"
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I'll never forget that white nigga

he was an older white kid that lived a couple doors down from me...

i was in like 1st-3rd grade or so

he was a good 4 years older than me but somehow we got along...

i learned some of my best insults from him and his friends...i remember the first time i heard "dickwad"...i started hearing jasmine ala vanessa williams singing "whole new world" and shit...

i picked a fight the next day and pulled that shit out during a playground roast and was that nigga for a minute

coolest thing about dude though...he was a straight doppleganger for Fred Savage and i used to love that nigga in Wonder Years

i wish i knew his last name...i'd facebook him...cool motherfucker back in the day

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78. "RE: this reminds me of my childhood friend Eric"
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>.i
>remember the first time i heard "dickwad"...i started hearing
>jasmine ala vanessa williams singing "whole new world" and
>shit...

  

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15. "Not a parent but some of yall acting brand new in here."
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As if white privilege is going to up and disappear as your non white child gets older.



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18. "what did anyone say..."
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>As if white privilege is going to up and disappear as your
>non white child gets older.

...that said that? seriously, i'm not seeing it in any of the previous replies.

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19. "i think she is referring to the way people are responding to "
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afrogirl's reply

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35. "Afrogirl's reply is dumb as shit...at least what it insinuates is...."
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lol

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50. "No you're dumb as shit"
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You just posted a lame ass thread about your kid speaking "proper English," but won't arm them with the necessary tools to fight against white privilege. Your priorities are out of place, and your kid will suffer. They'll end up in my college class, stupid and full of racial innocence. Smdh.

  

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52. "My priorities aren't focusing on things that frame my childs view of the..."
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>You just posted a lame ass thread about your kid speaking
>"proper English," but won't arm them with the necessary tools
>to fight against white privilege. Your priorities are out of
>place, and your kid will suffer.

in way that suggests she's sub-anything. You can focus on limitations all you want, i'm focused on the things that show there are no limitations.

Gone ahead and Debbie Down your kids to death though....

  

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56. "Also, your lame ass reply said nothing about fighting white privilege......"
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>You just posted a lame ass thread about your kid speaking
>"proper English," but won't arm them with the necessary tools
>to fight against white privilege. Your priorities are out of
>place, and your kid will suffer. They'll end up in my college
>class, stupid and full of racial innocence. Smdh.

You yapped off some drivel about having a talk with them about having white friends. To which my reply was 110% appropriate.

  

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59. "Touched a nerve huh? Sit down nm"
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61. "When it comes to Black children, yes, my nerve is very large and exposed..."
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.
You still have yet to explain your reply though....

  

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66. "u dont have to fight against privilege"
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that's something they have to acknowledge moreso than something we have to fight against

be aware of it sure...but as a kid...not something i entrust children to understand in talking form

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68. "why would you leave it up to the child to process such a thing?"
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the child could easily walk away from the situation feeling substandard by nature.

thinking - the natural order of things is for me to be treated like shit, simply because i was born black.

to me? that's a devastating idea.

  

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74. "right."
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i thank my parents for introducing certain concepts into my life early
(5/6 years old)
it didn't stop me from having white friends. my experience with white friends stopped me
from continuing to have white friends though.

but i digress...

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79. "wat"
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are yall even responding to what i'm saying?

why do you let any kid learn anything through experience?

my mom was a black panther...she talked to me about a lot of shit...i had white friends completely separate from those talks...

none of that shit made any sense at all until i experienced...that's my point...it's not something you can process without having enough scope to process it

i'm not saying don't talk to your kids about race...i'm saying it's unlikely to prepare them just like how the sex talk rarely prepares people for the multitude of social dynamics revolving around sex

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82. "maybe not"
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it read to me like you were saying you should speak to your kids about privilege bc they won't get it.
i think at around 5 or so kids get a lot more than we give them credit for.
but perhaps that's not what you were saying at all
ppl have misunderstandings all the time.

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88. "grown ass adults don't know what privilege is"
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i'm not really saying you shouldn't talk to kids about it...

but most people don't get that shit until they are on the wrong side of it...

kids do get a lot more than they get credit for....but i don't think they typically have the scope to do anything with that knowledge at such an age...

at that age...if it doesn't impact who and what they can play with...it really doesn't matter...

i'm mainly saying privilege (besides police treatment) has little to no effect on children...all those other important cultural lessons are far more useful than privilege and how it relates to white friends is really all i'm saying

when u talk to kids about sex...u don't go into the complexities of consent or social currency...cause that shit gonna sound like Clignon until they become active lol

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91. "do they not know what it is or do they just not have a name for it?"
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my parents never used the term but i got the concept from early.

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96. "through experience or through talk?"
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it's easy to see someone else's privilege and hard to see one's own

privilege is more complex and nuanced than "i don't have what they have"

that's only a small part of it and kids tend to learn that about a lot of things...with or without those talks

it's one thing to intuitively sense something and something else to fully understand it

i think experience is the better teacher of all that...sometimes those lessons help...but they are often wrapped up in the lessons we all get anyway

most cultural lessons are learned through experience

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99. "both."
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there are certain things you are going to experience regardless
i was glad to be armed with certain knowledge so that when i experienced it
it didn't effect me as badly as it could have
it will always effect you though.

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104. "i feel like most of those lessons"
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can be packaged without giving them the same hangups as our predecessors i guess

to each his own...

my mom was a black panther long before i was born but became a consultant on diversity...

so even though i learned a lot of cultural lessons...i didn't get a whole lot of the baggage or fear...

i had pride in who i was but also got the chance to feel safe while engaged with others...

i remember in 2nd grade i went to a Catholic school that was majority white...crushed on a white girl...peeped the difference in when i crushed on black girls...but then i felt other forms of rejection too...

so i was like...oh shit...these things are unpredictable and took my ass back to a black school cause that shit was too expensive and not worth it lol

i feel like it's a balancing act between preparing your kid for the lows of racism/privilege and keeping them hopeful that they navigate around it in their own way

cause too often i see kids adopting the hopelessness of their parents or the hyper-cynicism and that's equally as dangerous to me

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138. "i definitely feel like there's a way to "
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inform your kids without making them fearful of the world and the people in it.
for me personally being told the ways of the world only allowed me to understand my place
in it better. that despite these crazy people who are literally out to oppress people
we are and continue to be great.

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155. "Carlton Banks racial identity episode"
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30. "so u gotta have a white privilege talk to have white friends?"
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and then check off the "white friends" talk off your good nigga parenting checklist?

that's shit u should be teaching in general...not in reference to having white friends lol

that's some odd shit...how does that talk even go

parent: "lookie here tyrone...those kids that are white don't have the same lifestyle as you so you need to be careful not to compare your living situation too closely with theirs. you might be their token black friend or even worse start talking like them around your black friends and that's socially dangerous. Also, if you ever get pulled over by police in your bigwheel and sidecar...they only going arrest, beat, or kill you. So have fun...but not as much fun as them. Ok? Love you!"

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36. "Providing our children with unnecessary baggage is good Black parenting"
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apparently.
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37. "Ask Laurence Otis Graham n/m"
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38. "what does that have to do with having white friends?"
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that's just proof that you don't inflict your own fucked up thoughts upon your kids lol

u raise them to know right from wrong and help them understand that things aren't fair and how race relates to that...but u don't have a white friends talk lol

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39. "who? why? what? "
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42. "no kids and I agree..."
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my parents had the talk with me.

It was a warning about how to prepare myself if 5 white kids and 1 black kid got in trouble.

and they were right.





  

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16. "Not that I know of. SMH. "
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20. "yeah...it wasn't an adjustment but lately (since shes in Kindergarten)"
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some of these kids I don't particularly care for.
When she was in daycare and preschool she had diverse friends. The parents were really cool. She still keeps in touch with some of them.

Now that she's in kindergarten, we've gone to some PTA sponsored events and notice that only the white kids in her class and their parents attend these events. So naturally, my daughter wants to hang with her classmates. But some of them be acting brand new at the PTA events, mad cliquish (at age 5 and 6!!), not speaking, not wanting to talk to my daughter, just looking at her.
Friday we went to a movie night at the school gym and she tried sit with a couple of the white girls from her class. I watched as they basically ignored my daughter. So I told her its ok if she wanted to sit with her friends from before and after care (who were basically older black and hispanic girls). She sat with them and was fine.

  

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307. "That's sad. And yet many okps in here acting brand new"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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309. "I do appreciate this share. "
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22. "they family."
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but no.
im not projecting that bullshit on my child(ren).

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23. "yup :)"
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but they are more like cousins

their parents and i are best friends
she calls their parents "aunt and uncle"
the kids all me "aunt"

she has other friends that are not black
as well

she is closest to them though

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25. "Yes and it's not that big a deal."
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My daughter attends a Montessori with mostly white and Hispanic kids.

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27. "YES AND IT KILLS ME INSIDE"
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28. "LOL"
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29. "LMAO"
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31. "GREAT LOL OF CHINA"
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33. "I can't wait to see the parent's faces on my daughters bday when "
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they come to the crib for her party and see the books we have on the shelf and pictures we have on the walls!!

I might have an old Farrakhan tape from the mid 80s playing in the basement while they are singing Happy Birthday. LOL.

  

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69. "perfect."
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34. "My daughter doesn't have any black friends"
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There are no black kids in her class at pre-school and we don't have any local black friends who have kids. There are black kids in her gymnastics class, but that's so frenetic and the kids don't really interact with each other.

  

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40. "no"
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Coolin...

  

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45. "Damn yall really not giving the White Man is the Devil talk?"
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to me it ties in nicely with the white privilege chat.

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54. "NO child should be raised believing that evil only lurks behind white sk..."
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Or that white skin is any more or less prone to evil than Black skin.


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148. "Even though plenty of white children are taught"
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Evil lurks behind black skin and our entire "culture" re-enforces and supports it? Why can't we hate others the same way we're hated? It's almost like black people aren't even considered equal in how we can respond.

For the record I'm playing devils advocate, but sometimes I do wonder...

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53. "Afrogirl Lost, you might wanna explain "the talk""
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I think I understand, and it's not as bad as the conclusion people seem to be arriving at.

  

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58. "Atillah broke it down nicely in #41"
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There's no need for me to expound.

  

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62. "that's HIS breakdown. And i'm not even sure it's him agreeing to...."
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it being a necessity in modern times.....

  

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64. "hee haw @ modern times."
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70. "If you're maneuvering through the racist climate of 2014 like it's 1960"
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then you're doing it wrong and bound for failure.
If you're intent on teaching your children how to maneuver through a future using a 1960's mindset and approach then you're doing it wrong.

To frame a discussion, or a lesson to an adolescent in a way that suggests or even conveys that the racist structure of modern society is something they have to cower from, or be afraid of, or think that they don't have a chance for any sort of greatness outside of the confines of the Black diaspora is just.....it's just dumb as shit. That's the best way for me to say it to convey the utter absurdness of it.

You modern wannabe Black activists really trip me out sometimes...smh.
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71. "what's a 1960's mindset?"
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acknowledging that white people don't care about your blaack-ass?

AND they think they're better than you.

but the reality is that you are better than them

and they know it.

and have tried to keep you from that understanding for centuries on-end.

'they' haven't given up exploiting you in 2015.

and you need to act accordingly.

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73. "nobody in this thread was alive in the 60s"
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could it be that people are navigating based on wtf is happening in the world right now?

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77. "NO, people are regurgitating traditions, ideals, beliefs, limitations, e..."
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>could it be that people are navigating based on wtf is
>happening in the world right now?

that continue to be passed down through the generations. Essentially what has resulted in the current state of affairs we find ourselves in now. Stagnant.

The first kneejerk reaction is still "White=enemy" "Black=friend".

The entire tone of this post (not clear that it was the intent) is that for a Black child to have a white friend is somehow NOT an ideal situation. Is somehow something that needs to be "addressed" or "mediated" or "redirected". The notion of it is absurd. ESPECIALLY considering that the downfall of SO MANY Black youth over the past say 25 years is a direct result of the bonds, friendships, associations, grooming, etc. that they've had with their BLACK friends...and not a result of some White oppressor.

Growth needs to be taught from the standpoint of what the individual can do to be the best person, not from the angle of you're going to be victim your entire life at the hands of white folk....

  

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81. "eh"
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i call it being realistic.

*shrug*

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83. "the tone of the post sprung from the idea that many of us have prejudice..."
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but our children might not.

sure, we all want our children to be limitless and understanding.

even more understanding than ourselves.

and then i wondered how a parent with a prejudice, guides a child to not have prejudice.

does the parent just not say anything?

that seems dangerous.

does the parent impart half a prejudice.

that seems incomplete.

so, what does happen?

it's a question im sure some of our parents have asked themselves, im guessing.

  

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87. "I really wish you wouldn't leave your posts so under developed yo...."
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>but our children might not.
>
>sure, we all want our children to be limitless and
>understanding.
>
>even more understanding than ourselves.
>
>and then i wondered how a parent with a prejudice, guides a
>child to not have prejudice.
>
>does the parent just not say anything?
>
>that seems dangerous.
>
>does the parent impart half a prejudice.
>
>that seems incomplete.
>
>so, what does happen?
>
>it's a question im sure some of our parents have asked
>themselves, im guessing.

^^^^THIS is something that I can fully wrap my head around and dialogue on....

the whole "White Friends Talk" really got my goat though....

  

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90. "the 'white friends talk' is not my idea, but i fully support it. "
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im finding it hard to separate the two.

i feel like you gotta tell them the whole story.

what do you think the white child's parent is saying about your black child?

think of the possibilities.

does knowing, or imagining the worse change your approach to what you impart in your child?

  

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FLUIDJ
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"Do you enjoy reading? "


  

          

>im finding it hard to separate the two.
>
>i feel like you gotta tell them the whole story.
>
>what do you think the white child's parent is saying about
>your black child?
>
>think of the possibilities.
>
>does knowing, or imagining the worse change your approach to
>what you impart in your child?

When someone recommends a book to you....do you take them on their recommendation or prefer for them to set the tone up for you, steer you towards their interpretations, evaluations, and lessons that they gained from the text?

Or do you prefer to read it front to back...and if you run into complexities or concepts that you don't fully grasp, then go to them for insight?

I don't believe in telling anyone the whole story as if it's the whole truth or their truth. That's MY story, my truth, not theirs. The story that hasn't been written is never going to be the same as the one that has already started or already ended. I can be a point of reference, a footnote, a dictionary....but to try and shape someone elses story based on MY story isn't appropriate. It's stifling. It's potentially a means to stunt growth. I've been UNlearning so many fcked up "lessons" and narratives my parents and elders put on my back that have been proved to be only 1/2 the story over the past 20years...
Don't get me started on parenthood....BOY....THOSE stories....I swear....

  

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107. "and here's where i thank my parents."
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i may be delusional, but i don't have much to UNlearn.

i wasn't given the bible or anything similar.

i wasn't given the phrase 'kill whitey', but when armed with all the facts ....

i can admit that i was given an inflated sense of pride and historical self worth - you know being from kings and queens and shit.

but i think that shit is necessary in the current climate.

i noticed how easily i could've respond to the world with a sense of hopelessness that this is my role as a black person.

i had one half white friend.

he lived across the street.

we were PALS.

sleepovers, the whole nine.

my parents never talked shit about Larry's mother, even though my curriculum was full of not so complimentary facts about history. Larry's mother treated me warmly. I think she was graduated trailer trash though. not a big deal, made her easier to get along with i think. ok not trailer trash, just poor and white.

i knew to discern that Larry's mother wasn't a direct enemy.

but i also knew that she's not necessarily and ally, either.

i think that's important.

...

do i take reading suggestions from others?

fuck yeah, if i respect, appreciate and can learn a lot from them. yes.

those people are few and far between, but they exist.

books and movies are mostly bullshit. i value recommendations from trusted advisors - when i dont find my own way, of course.

  

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109. "funny thing is, I used to be on some of the same shit being spewed here...."
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For me...shit changed the second I started attempting to see the world through my daughters eyes. I knew right then and there that the baggage I carry was being checked at the gate never to be handed off to her.

I should say...it's being recycled. I don't have it all figured out. Not trying to suggest I do....but I do know a direction that we intend to take.

>i may be delusional, but i don't have much to UNlearn.
>
>i wasn't given the bible or anything similar.

Layers to this shit. See....we all have layers....sometimes I think OKPs stop to think about these layers. They're quick to make assumptions based on folks' statements, without waiting for context or the fleshing out of the statements....

>i wasn't given the phrase 'kill whitey', but when armed with
>all the facts ....

I grew up in the south.

>i can admit that i was given an inflated sense of pride and
>historical self worth - you know being from kings and queens
>and shit.

I grew up in the south.....lol.... slaves was emphasized more than kings and queens....by all concerned parties...not just parents. ie; the victim mindset....not the victor. The notion that there's even a "winner" to all of this is a whole OTHER topic of discussion...but i digress...


>but i think that shit is necessary in the current climate.

The climate is weird right now....very weird. There's levels. There's things that we...WE are choosing to ignore and take off the table....but I digress...

>i noticed how easily i could've respond to the world with a
>sense of hopelessness that this is my role as a black person.

>i had one half white friend.
>
>he lived across the street.
>
>we were PALS.
>
>sleepovers, the whole nine.
>
>my parents never talked shit about Larry's mother, even though
>my curriculum was full of not so complimentary facts about
>history. Larry's mother treated me warmly. I think she was
>graduated trailer trash though. not a big deal, made her
>easier to get along with i think. ok not trailer trash, just
>poor and white.
>
>i knew to discern that Larry's mother wasn't a direct enemy.
>
>but i also knew that she's not necessarily and ally, either.

I don't believe in allies. An ally is an enemy that hasn't shown his true colors yet.. A friend is a friend.

>i think that's important.
>...
>do i take reading suggestions from others?
>
>fuck yeah, if i respect, appreciate and can learn a lot from
>them. yes.
>
>those people are few and far between, but they exist.
>
>books and movies are mostly bullshit. i value recommendations
>from trusted advisors - when i dont find my own way, of
>course.


.

  

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234. "No one is regurgitating or reliving anything "
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Is the radioactive fallout from Chernobyl or Fukushima being "passed down"? No, it's left over residue from the meltdown. There is no real way to clean it up and it permeates everything within and to a degree outside it's radius. Plant's, earth, water, wildlife, air-- everything.

America and the western world experienced
a "racial meltdown" about 400 years ago and the fallout is identical. It is naive, dangerous, and unwise to not tell those you love about the toxic environment that surrounds them. One that can kill them.


>The first kneejerk reaction is still "White=enemy"
>"Black=friend".

You know it's way more nuanced than that. Some whites are in fact our enemies have you not noticed? Some blacks are too. At any rate that's not what the OP is about.

>The entire tone of this post (not clear that it was the
>intent) is that for a Black child to have a white friend is
>somehow NOT an ideal situation.

I didn't get that impression. I just thought it was a "have you spoken to your child about race and friendship?"

>ESPECIALLY considering that the
>downfall of SO MANY Black youth over the past say 25 years is
>a direct result of the bonds, friendships, associations,
>grooming, etc. that they've had with their BLACK friends...and
>not a result of some White oppressor.

It's all connected. Without an oppressive influence the bonds may have been better. Without boiling water crabs won't pull each other down.

>Growth needs to be taught from the standpoint of what the
>individual can do to be the best person, not from the angle of
>you're going to be victim your entire life at the hands of
>white folk....

I don't think victimization was an angle in OP either.

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252. "the tone i'm referring to is cumulative...."
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I had no inclination or suspicion that it would spiral this way, and it's turned into the total opposite discussion than i'd imagined. That's what I'm referring to by the "whole tone of this post".....

I don't disagree with your other points. I do get the impression that some folks are being very literal with respect to the way they intend to handle discussion about this with their children.
.

  

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277. "yeah it got real warm and POASTY didn't it?"
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308. "Wake the fuck up Black man. "
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Shit this post is scary

prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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55. "my daughter ;prolly has one black friend"
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60. "Yes. Why would anyone need to adjust this aint 1960?"
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Go out and meet some people. We all the same man.

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63. "Yup, theres only 3-4 that look like them in each class"
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It's just the world we live in. I had white friends as a kid and was allowed to sleep over if our parents knew each other and I follow that rule. For me in 3rd or 4th grade they rezoned and about 90% of the white kids disappeared and were not seen again until middle school <shrug>

My kids will probably not have the opportunity to be the majority anywhere other than church and maybe at an HBCU one day.

I haven't had the talk with my young ones but the my man-child got the talk in middle school when he realized that teachers, administrators and some parents treated him differently. The talk was needed and appropriate but focused on the way this county as a whole tends to view black males. He had a hard time understanding but most of what we said happened to him or his Black friends repeatedly. It was a hard pill to swallow. We had the talk again since Travon, Mike Brownn, etc... we worry about him while he's away at college and the local police near campus have a history.......

  

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75. "my son lil click looks like a benetton ad...all flavors"
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80. "How do you teach a kid younger than 16 that whitey is out to get them?"
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Yall really teaching that shit to kids before high school?
I'd figure by that age they'd already have figured it out themselves
unless they lived a totally sheltered life

my parents aint have to teach me that
the streets and LIFE taught me that
i aint cry
just accepted it for what it was and moved forward

i was raised in a time of OJ Simpson, Sagon Penn and Rodney King

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86. "why is whitey out to get them? can the child just fall into that answer?"
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do you even know the answer?

  

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103. "who is to say whitey IS out to "get them"?"
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>do you even know the answer?

i dont know the answer cause yalls questions be ass backwards
do yall ever stop and think that this site is ran by white folks?
a GOOD portion of the ppl that post here are white folks.

but then you gonna say "no not them, they're not like the REST OF the white folks."

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112. "honestly, the idea that okp is 'ran' by white folk is kinda wild to me."
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when i first met this site 10 years ago (i really am a charter member) it was a huge adjustment to realize that while the tone of the site is very steeped in black culture, there are people who read and contribute to the conversation that are far from black.

i've come to terms, but i'd still rather think that most of the eyes and fingers on this site are like in-mind to me.

... and maybe i aint so racist on the surface.

but when the race war breaks out, which is inevitable, i think i'm prepared to not hesitate to act on my allegiance.

...

also, the fact that you don't know that whitey is out to get you is scary to me.

  

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125. "we've been down this road before (c) Teena Marie"
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>...
>
>also, the fact that you don't know that whitey is out to get
>you is scary to me.


you just a fake racist
my wife white
half my daughters family white
sowhat, im sposed to teach her that her momma half of her family is "out to get her"?
when in actuality these niggas on her daddy side will probably have her credit ruined before she starts kindegarden if i let them?
she'd have all types of iPhone 6 and BestBuy accts in her name
having colelction agencies calling her and she not even potty trained yet


im on hunting sites and i hear what super southerner conservatives say about us
exact polar opposite of what we think bout michael brown
a bunch of them are LEO too
but there are a few (VERY FEW) ofays on them boards that dont immediately trash everything black and stick up for ppl like Eric Garner and that 12 year old in cleveland

i think it is more CLASSISM than racism these days
most OKP would have no prob with their black kid spending the night at an affluent white classmate's house
but a single mom who works at Applebees and trying to put out a rap album they'd steer clear of.
black on black hate crime.

it's funny how D'Angelo and the likes bring us all together because without music, i doubt many of us from such a broad spectrum would even speak to one another

some of yall barely keeping yalls lights on and others are talking about spending months in Dubai and Rarotonga

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388. "History books, statistics, the police, photos of"
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Black folks hanging from trees with a bunch of smiling as shit white folks around the corpse. Images such as these were sold as postcards meaning there was a profit to be made (and still is) in killing black folks. I mean this was when most folks didn't even smile in their photos.

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89. "RE: Our children don't live in the same world we do."
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It is pointless to try and indoctrinate them with our views. Is there any wonder that children and their parents do not get along when the child is forming an adolescence? It is usually because the parent is attempting to "inform, teach, raise" their child under the pretenses which formed their adolescence, and ultimately, their adult hood.

Expecting a 13 year old to have the mental process of a mid 30 to 40 year old is asinine and completely irrational. The best we can do as parents is teach them a correct set of virtues: ie. truth, love, loyalty, honesty, focus, etc. Inform them about the dangers of violence, substances, and sex, and trust that we did our job. We have to trust our children. Attempting to hold their hand through every aspect of life is counter intuitive and counter productive to their development. If they come face to face with the less glamorous side of a growing and evolving society, then it is their job to find a place in it. You cannot live your child's life.

Also, based on my personal observations, kids these days do not care about our ideals or perception of race. Many of them rebel against the idea of having to pick a side and consider all of us to be "stupid". I see many interracial groups of kids hanging out and forming relationships that live completely beyond the confines of our views. Asking them to stand a certain way, or to act, fight, or respond a certain way will only ensure that they do it their own way. It is an act of futility. The spirit of the young should not be tempered with and will not allow itself to be tempered with.

A recent scientific study has shown that when children hear the criticism or advise of their parents, their brains immediately shut down and become unresponsive. It is literally like screaming at a blank wall. Stop wasting your breath and save your children from your views, let them learn their place on their own with a good foundation and they will be more than ok, and actually consider you as a friend instead of a figurehead.

  

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92. "are you white?"
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95. "this post really made me appreciate my parents all over again. "
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thanks, deadzombie.

as for my son all of his friends are black & mostly family members
cept for two who are half white half black

(one of their dad's had on a roots ugly sweater the other day i wonder if he posts here 0_0)

left up to me he probably won't be around white people much
i will try really hard to not make him racist.
#promise

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116. "me too."
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if i ever heard a talk like this from my parents i don't remember it. to the point where i was surprised to discover their race prejudice and racism as i became an adult. LOL

they kept their stuff from me though they grew up in Jim Crow America and had some pretty nasty race-based interactions w/non-Blacks over their yrs. they kept that to themselves and allowed me to develop my own ideas about race w/o carrying their baggage.

this post has reminded me how glad i am about it. lol

fuck you.

  

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120. "lol two sides to every coin"
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i can dig that
my parents didn't go in on individual white people
but they definitely gave us the 411 as far as race relations and stuff like that

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124. "now that i got."
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yes.

but they never made it about white ppl i knew. it was never about my friends or our neighbors or their coworkers or my teachers, et al. it was about 'white ppl'. some mythical force.

fuck you.

  

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133. "word."
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pretty much the same as far as what they verbalized.
one thing i always noticed though is
my parents didn't/don't have white friends.
aside from the lady across the street

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141. "mine did."
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well, they had white coworkers and neighbors who came to the house when we had parties.

and now my mom has had 2 close friends for like 10 or 15 yrs who are both white (one is Jewish).

meanwhile my friends were like a damned Benetton ad. LOL. my best homie in the first half of elementary school was a Guatemalan kid (his mom made awesome tamales for us after school almost everyday). my other homie was a white Jewish kid. my 'girlfriend' was Japanese. then we moved to a Black nabe and all my friends were Black until i was put in the gifted student class. from then on through college i had a mix of white and Black friends.

fuck you.

  

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258. "^^^"
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121. "i just realized this might read funny"
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i just don't be around white people like that
so as a result my son will probably not be around that many white people in general
i'm not gonna KEEP him from white people though lol that would be just crazy

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97. "growing up we were one of the very few white families in our neighborhoo..."
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By the time i got to high school we were just about the only one.

And im eternally grateful my parents never gave me a "talk" about my black friends and how dirty they thought my black friends would do me given the chance.

Shit sounds like Pre-Racism 101



  

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100. "they don't. that idea blacks doing you dirty is just the status quo."
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thanks for being a nice guy?

  

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105. "not for a fucking child you moron"
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That shit comes from somewhere

White kids dont have to be de-racistfied to not hate black people

Its actually the exact opposite

This is why your opinions mean approximately fuckall to me

  

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110. "gotdammit, your whiteness is showing! put that petty name calling shit"
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away!

white children aren't born in some special pod that shields them from all the prejudiceness of their environment for years until they come in contact with non-whites.

do you want me to believe they do?

do you want me to believe you did?

this question could easily have been asked in a way that was directed to white parents.

do you think they would all just have the perfect response to this very real issue?

you funny.

  

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111. "lol fuck off. i dont like u b/c ive seen how u operate, dont go victim ..."
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When kids grow up to be racist, their racist parents are the biggest reason why.

Its one thing to teach a black kid that racism exists in the world, and how it may affect them.

Its an ENTIRELY different thing to teach a black child that his white friends dont give a shiy about him because he is black.

You're an even simpler fuck than i imagined if you dont get that.

  

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115. "real quick I think you are just interpreting the 'talk' as a tad more"
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absolute or extreme than it actually is

>Its an ENTIRELY different thing to teach a black child that
>his white friends dont give a shiy about him because he is
>black.
>

I don't think this is exactly what is being conveyed in these 'talks'


  

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117. "quote here"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12676263&mesg_id=12676263&listing_type=search#12676867

again...this is what was clapped to...
not saying that Atillah was advocating it...he just layed out what the potential discussion would be, based on his recollection of what it was to him in the 80's
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123. "you don't think that's true in a lot of cases though?"
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my experience is different when I was getting in trouble with a mixed group of kids at a young age

but there are definitely times that when the going gets rough, white kid may fold easily into the benefits of their privilege that black kids do not enjoy. they don't do that out of coldness for their black friends but because it is an option for them. letting them know that there is a difference with how they are treated and with the lenience they are afforded and that ultimately that may become stronger than their friendship is something that should be said at some point (probably not when they are kids though)

  

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129. "I don't believe it's a good course of action to send your kids into the "
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world with the impression that something that MIGHT happen....will DEFINITELY happen. I don't want to color my child's outlook on life and the world. I'll prepare them to handle general adversity. They'll be equipped with the appropriate mental tools indeed.
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134. "I get your approach as well, and I think your thinking is valid"
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I personally know people that got 'the talk' as kids growing up, and they grew up to have a pretty diverse array of friends and acquaintances

I don't think hearing 'the talk' at a young age is the be-all end-all of the mind frame a young person eventually adopts, just that it is a precautionary tale told to kids to instill a certain sense of wariness about certain situations.

  

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136. "it doesn't stop at weariness. "
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it goes to pride.

and the idea that your skin is not a curse.

in fact, it is to be celebrated.

we're not trying to only prevent jail time, but we also want to raise leaders.

right?

  

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139. "obviously constantly reinforcing positive self image is top priority "
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164. "any kid willing to skate while his friends get in trouble aint shit"
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My dad gave me *that* talk 500 times

  

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158. "I tend to advocate it-- here's why"
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It was mostly accurate. Most of my close friends today are from my HS/Jr. HS days and they are mostly white or pass for it. As a teen I knew my mom was trying to prepare me for the real world and I didn't really take the things she said to heart, but as I got older I could see exactly what she was trying to tell me and why. It hasn't affected my social interactions negatively at all, but has helped me in understanding how folks can be at times and why they tend at times to be that way.

It wasn't framed as any kind of 'talk' it was just a message comprised of a few select points that she had on repeat during my teenage years (which were actually the early 90's not the 80's my bad).

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348. "i can get w/that."
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someone else in here advocated for talking about the shit as it comes up and not as a 'sit down here and let me tell you about your white devil friends' thing. LOL.

i probably never got the 'your white friends won't have your back' shit b/c...my white friends had my back so that was never a thing i needed to hear. i do think if i'd heard it out of context it could've/would've had a negative impact on my respect for my parents or for my ability to trust some of my friends. so i'm glad i didn't hear that shit.

fuck you.

  

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373. "Cool now I get it"
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You may have seen some posts where I'm stating my confusion with some of your comments and to be completely honest my friends and I (all of whom were "white" in quotes cuz one was Jewish and there were 6 of us in total) did actually get in trouble with the cops for a kind of a big deal type of petty crime I guess and no one sold me down the river, BUT that may be because my alibi was air tight (I was the voice of reason) and couldn't really be disproved without a serious Othello type conspiracy.

I'd like to chalk it all up to having good friends, but that wouldn't be entirely true because two of the guys in the group were actually Jr. dirt bags and probably would have turned on me had it just been the three of us. So I'd say it was 8/10 or 9/10 advice which is still good.

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376. "solid."
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fuck you.

  

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118. "there's nuance in the talk that's not communicated here."
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plus the kid(s) will ask questions during the talk and the responses to those questions likely temper the tone of the talk as presented here.

and i think we all present ourselves here as being a bit more than we are IRL.

fuck you.

  

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122. "how did you explain to your child why black folks are mad?"
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when children grow up to be racist their parents are to blame?

what about the influence of the friends, school, media and their immediate environment?

surely there are racial notes sprinkled about.

if the parents doesn't take action, how will the child shield him or herself from all these other messages?

shouldn't the parent take an active approach.

  

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240. "You misinterpreted "
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It's not that white friends wont't give a shit-- it's that the system will often times offer them an easy out in the face of adversity. Being given an easy out when the heat is on is a hard thing to turn down (regardless of your skin color) wouldn't you agree?

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244. "integrity is integrity. period."
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And like i said just above this, any kid willing to skate while his friends face trouble...aint shit.

And my dad reinforced that idea throughout my whole life.

  

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251. "it is what is man,"
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your old man is right, but so is the human condition.

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310. "Don't u think growing up around all non whites had something to do"
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With how ur parents raised u? The way u came up is not standard. And most Blk kids have to navigate in a world where the rules are set by standard white upbringing....which is not what u had

prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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102. "most okps live in one of the top 10 segregated cities"
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still wouldn't have guessed that the individual situations were such that this would be an issue though

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106. "...Little Rock, Arkansas?"
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108. "None of those "most segregated" lists account for social integration"
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NYC is one of the most socially integrated cities in the country, even if it's geographically segregated.

  

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114. "seems like ppl in here don't have access to that"
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thus my surprise
even in your reply it seems like your kid doesn't have a balanced exposure level

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119. "my surprise is that people actively prevent that access."
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Like...go OUT of their way to keep their kids away from anything white.
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127. "that sounds like a bad assumption given the fact in #102"
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nobody knows afrogirls living situation or environment
maybe where she lives those type of precautions are necessary
i would have imagined they aren't cause i have some preconceived notion about where/how okps live
but clearly that ain't the case for everybody given the replies in here
so who knows

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153. "my reply in #119 isn't related to that at all. "
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it's a general reply to things I often see posted on the boards....

  

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144. "lol...where u get that from"
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=======================================
Coolin...

  

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157. "RE: left up to me he probably won't be around white people much"
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it's in here bro...

left up to me he probably won't be around white people much
i will try really hard to not make him racist.
#promise

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180. "Shorty said that she don't be around white people like that"
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Hell...I don't either

hence me not having any white friends

or my son

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126. "our situation is more income inequality than anything else"
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we send our daughter to a pricey (for this market) pre-school in an affluent neighborhood. As I've said in other threads, black Pittsburghers go to college and never come back. There's a very small class of young black professionals here and from what I've seen, they like to live in the burbs.

If we were to move back to NYC or Chicago, she'd likely have a different set of classmates, as we'd live in a more diverse neighborhood and she'd attend less ritzy schools.

  

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128. "This is what I was saying above. it is CLASSISM not RACISM"
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>we send our daughter to a pricey (for this market) pre-school
>in an affluent neighborhood. As I've said in other threads,

we live in a very affluent neighborhood
my daughter goes to music class in River Oaks (old white money/slave mansions on acreage)
she is the only one in her class
but every day she goes to my inlaws who babysit in Acres Homes (in between 5th Ward and South Side you will have Acres Homes for it's violence and noteriety)

so she goes from one extreme to the other on the daily

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131. "she's probably going to public schools for k-12"
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and our zoned school is far more diverse than her pre-school.

  

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140. "we sending ours to public schools"
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houston's private schools are a BEAST on that classism shit
plus, we dont got that kinda dough to be throwin at AWTY or River Oaks Baptist

if we move to suburbs school will be more racially and socially mixed
but in the city proper, nothing but a buncha messkans and gangs

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143. "We like our zoned schools. he only thing that would keep her out"
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is getting into Pitt's lab school.

  

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132. "meh, the 2 are tightly integrated though"
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splicing them is often impossible...and usually difficult

the basis of racism is classism...but if that classism impacts blacks differently...then yea...safe bet racism is more to blame

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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142. "i beg to differ..."
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a white cop that makes $50k a year can make a $50,000,000 black man's life miserable

yeah the black man got a team of lawyers that can get him out that jam
but for the time being that the white officer got black man's nuts in that vise, black man in a vice

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354. "man at first I thought you were saying Acres was in between the ward and..."
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I was ready to pounce lol.

>>we send our daughter to a pricey (for this market)
>pre-school
>>in an affluent neighborhood. As I've said in other threads,
>
>we live in a very affluent neighborhood
>my daughter goes to music class in River Oaks (old white
>money/slave mansions on acreage)
>she is the only one in her class
>but every day she goes to my inlaws who babysit in Acres Homes
>(in between 5th Ward and South Side you will have Acres Homes
>for it's violence and noteriety)
>
>so she goes from one extreme to the other on the daily
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130. "yea i'd imagine income equality is a big factor in segregation "
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no need to justify your kids situation imo

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135. "you confuse explanation with justification"
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I don't justify any of my parenting choices to anyone but my wife

  

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145. "don't care. didn't ask"
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146. "lol wtf"
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i hate this place sometimes

www.royallegacy.org

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRoCPO8esE

  

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149. "you specifically talked about his reply bro"
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160. "didn't ask about none of that. "
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he replyed to me with a rebuttal about nyc not being segregated "socially"
i just highlighted his own situation to illustrate how often times that doesn't really mean anything (admittedly i thought he lived in nyc, don't know much about pittsburgh)
his explanation further illustrated my point, i was just telling him it ain't that deep to explain to me the reasons why
didn't know that was hard to follow

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166. "anyway I think maybe you're just NY bashing which is cool"
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cause I don't think you really know NY like that despite you coming up here

  

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168. "he bought NYC up....not me"
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i assume his rebuttal , and your reply right now, is about some kind of defensiveness/insecurity
thats kind of par for the course on here. i wasn't even thinking about nyc. (i was actually thinking of another city on the list...philly)

ain't that deep. take NYC off the most segregated list if it helps you feel better about your locale etc

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169. "oh aight. doesn't matter to me none. I've seen you NY bash on here"
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which you do for whatever reasons you have
I think the assumption was you were talking about NY but that's cool

  

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172. "He's talked a lot about NYC's segregation"
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it was a very thinly veiled shot.

  

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176. "link?"
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since i've talk alot about it, smh
iono what's weirder
yall being defensive about something that's not your fault and well known fact at this point
or the fact yall think i came into a thread about befriending white kids trying to throw "thinly veiled shots" at some niggas i don't know or give two shits about
get over yourselves, seriously.
sheesh

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159. "smh...that is some South Philly shit fo real"
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137. "Shit I had white friends as a kid"
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I knew abt racism. I felt it in person and still dug yt. My mom never prefaced anything or "prepared" me for anything as far as that. She just made sure i knew who I was and my culture. I was raised to be strong in my culture.

Amir has yt friends, his best friend and neighbor as a matter of fact. They have a great relationship and I am so cool with that.

I don't worry abt privledge because I am teaching him strength in character and abt power and his community.

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147. "I have no issues my kids having white friends, I don't want my kids"
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being the ONE black friend in the all white group of friends.

I went to school with those kids in college. They were usually more fucked up, with more identity issues, and more self esteem issues than the kids from black schools or more diverse schools.

BTW I was raised constantly having the TALK about racism, the power structure, our proud history, etc. but the way some of y'all describe the talk sounds like y'all going to give your kids an inferiority complex.


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150. "if you couldn't tune their minds just right, wouldn't a superiority "
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complex do just fine?


  

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313. "Exactly it's a shame to see a Blk person with no Blk friends "
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And they do have some warped issues on life IMO

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152. "not a parent but reflecting on my own childhood"
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my father never discussed anything like that with me. being an immigrant, i don't think it entered his head, since he didn't grow up in a white society & have to deal with the specifics of that kind of environment.

  

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186. "Similar"
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Not exactly the same
My mom had to learn fast

Pthewiio assumption of her being the nanny really got to her
And also since she was an immigrant
The idea of me being taken away was a very valid thing
She had me cautious of everyone
My dads fam taught me the special place I have in society
North not so much but going down south was definitely a hard and fast lesson


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156. "My stepdaughter has white friends."
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When we stayed in Marietta, they were all black but once we moved to Kennesaw (which is heavily white), she easily started getting white friends.



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161. "People are being naive but the "white friends" talk is definitely a...."
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necessity in today's racial climate.

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162. "what makes today's "racial climate" any worse than the 60s, 70s or 80s"
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if anything
the racial climate today is better
you can be a black dude with a white chick and no one will bat an eye
all my nephews have non-black girlfriends
either white, asian or latina
none have been black out the four of them dudes

now my lil cuzzo is coming along and he got him a blanquita as well
so that makes 5 of them

white kids and black kids all listen to the same music these days from taylor swift to lil wayne to beyonce
they all listen to the same stuff
in the 80s it was either NKOTB or NE
you had to choose
no straddling the fence

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170. "this is your barometer?"
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>you can be a black dude with a white chick and no one will bat
>an eye

>white kids and black kids all listen to the same music these
>days from taylor swift to lil wayne to beyonce

  

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187. "I mean..."
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222. "But they don't all get shot for mouthing off "
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Or for being black

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165. "im still not clear on the difference btwn the white friends talk"
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and the white people/america/racism/etc. talk everybody has with their kids, white friends or no white friends.

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179. "its basically the same thing"
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229. "^^^^"
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I'd say if you're black, over 30, working and or living -- odds are you've gotten it.

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188. "I just ain't know what she meant "
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my mom's talked about it to us when situations arose

but it was never a 'sit down and let me tell u about these blue eye'd devils'

ish just sounded funny being framed as 'the white friends talk'

plus I don't know how effective that would be to a 9yr old




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304. "exactly"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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163. "RE: OKparents, does your child have white friends?"
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I got white friends. So why would it be an adjustment for her to have white friends? I'm just a little thrown off by this question.

Now that I've read the thread... Yes, she sees them in daycare. But, since she's only 2, its not a big deal who her friends are.

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167. "i have a feeling this is a huge part of it"
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>I got white friends.

I think this puts you in the minority

Some ppl here post like theyve never even met a white person before

  

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173. "And these are college educated people working in corp america"
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202. "no. they have degrees but make rap albums in their dad's basement"
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some are unemployed
others are between call center jobs

some can live off $30k in NYC for a family of 3

shit is wild bananas

how many of the posters that fly to dubai for a week or au/nz for a month dislike white people?

you actually have black ppl here that "dislike the south"
like f'real
the place where like 70% of all blacks in this country live you "dont care for"?

again, they talk shit about "white people" but a white man controls/runs this website, LITERALLY

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206. "dan is very disconnected from this kind of content, speciifcally."
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or even 'general discussions'

i noticed that in his 'hi, im dan' post.

what's he have to do with this conversation again?

oh. he's white and he controls a website with a message board.

im fucking shocked.

we should thank the all mighty white dan for giving us this platform?

ooooooh. thanks dan. we wouldn't know what to do without you.

  

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232. "Mom's basement or Grandmama's not Dad's Deej"
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I mean-- if we're going to get all self hating and stereotypical about this.

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273. "Pay Attn."
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>I mean-- if we're going to get all self hating and
>stereotypical about this.

How many rap albums have been produced and released from dad's basement here on GD?

You need to pay attn more.
It's not self hating.
The people who do the most "hating" here are the ones more likely to be on public assistance.

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276. "shots fired at 'sha and the legacy'."
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a studio is a studio.

  

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278. "Man, you need to SIT DOWN!"
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279. "get a grip."
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181. "And if you have white friends you know there's certain things they can....."
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do that you can't, like run away from the police, curse out a cop, etc

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225. "RE: And if you have white friends you know there's certain things they c..."
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True. But, again...my daughter is 2. So, its not like I have to have that talk with her NOW. It can wait a few years.

But, with all that said...I will have that talk with her. But, I also think there should be a way to do it without discouraging her from building relationships with people outside of her skin color.

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174. "A+ Post would read again"
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early contender for Archive too.

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175. "This is a really ugly post"
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Unlike other #WARZ, this just seems like people looking for opportunities to take mean-spirited potshots at each other.

  

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184. "extremely so. and archaic as well."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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177. "Yep. They have friends of all races. "
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No adjustment needed.

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178. "Of course just like me, but I live in Cali"
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hard not to have white friends in Cali

we keep it moving,

  

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328. "Not really..... "
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>hard not to have white friends in Cali

I know hella white folks. I may consider one a friend......

  

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189. "Wow at this post"
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Reminding me of the 'new' black thing
I thought everyone knew about the white/black doll test
I don't know if yall realize you are espousing race blind ideology
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192. ""espousing race blind ideology" ?? WTF?? LOL...smh...I swear..."
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193. "you laughing with your mouth wide open, but she's absolutely right. "
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194. "link every post in this thread that supports this notion."
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198. "dont tell me what to do."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12676263&mesg_id=12676263&page=#12677048

  

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200. "eat the cake"
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197. "A actively try to teach my daughter about race, but she doesn't get it"
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She understands culture/ethnicity, but not race. She knows that I and my family have brown skin, but think I'm Korean because I eat Korean food and can read/speak the language a little.

  

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199. "yeah fucking right."
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201. "holla at me when you're raising a mixed toddler in a white environment"
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she understands Jewish, but not black. Everyone is brown or beige to her...whites and asians are beige, blacks and Indians are brown. She doesn't know any latinos.

  

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203. "a toddler identifying other humans as beige?"
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beige not even in the crayon set.

is this a word you've given her?

why didn't you give her racially descriptive words like ... black people?

does she know mommy's family is different from daddy's family?

or you just got a gang of light-skinned people in your family?

  

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205. "dude, if you've ever RAISED a child you know they make shit up"
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shit you never taught them they will say or do and you will ask how the hell did they come up with THAT?!?!!?

you're angry
and filled with hate
what happened?
something happened in your life to cause this tormenting pain.
have you ever been stopped-n-frisked?
have you ever been arrested or falsely thrown in jail?


>beige not even in the crayon set.
>
>is this a word you've given her?
>
>why didn't you give her racially descriptive words like ...
>black people?
>
>does she know mommy's family is different from daddy's
>family?
>
>or you just got a gang of light-skinned people in your
>family?

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207. "how much television does your child watch?"
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209. "None."
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How much does yours watch?

Let me take that back.
Mine only watches whatever sports game I'm watching when/if she's sitting with me on the couch.
But she don't "watch" it, she just hears it as background noise.

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208. "Young children are strangely literal"
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I've given her black and white, and she says, "but you are not black, you're brown".

She understands that mommy and daddy's families are different, but the culture/language difference is more meaningful than the skin/hair difference.

  

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211. "what african culture have you preserved in your home?"
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does she know what an african is?

  

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213. "i had ZERO "african" culture in my home as a kid"
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nobody even talked about africa
well, we watched "roots" and "shaka zulu" when they came on tv back in the day
but thats just cause we didnt have cable and my folks didn't like Dynasty or Dallas or Love Boat.

have you ever BEEN TO africa?

you trippin dude

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Deadzombie
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216. "this makes perfect sense."
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218. "but yet ive been to africa and dated a Ndebele for 4 years"
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go 'head black man

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214. "nope. she doesn't know what an Asian, European, or"
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South American is either. She knows that Daddy's friend uncle Pierre is Haitian and uncle Kojo is Ghanaian. She's been exposed to all types of different cultures. She gets culture. Race, not so much.

  

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204. "not only dont most okp dont have kids. they dont have a MIXED kid."
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okp is sposed to such the land of "open mindedness"
but really it is a bastion of hatred.
they love the gays and bisexuals.
but if you're a WHITE gay or bisexual or just a white person period
you and your ancestors are the devil and have privilege.

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210. "so what you had a child with a white woman."
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personally, i think that was socially irresponsible.

what was your black-ass thinking?

  

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212. "Why not the vitirol for John? His wife is Korean."
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socially irresponsible?
LOL

this is the kind of stormfront type shit that i'm used to now on okp
Mongo's wife is black.
Is she socially irresponsible as well?

I can't believe Dan and the other white folks in power here stand for this kinda racist BS.

What about JStew?
His wife is black.
She socially irresponsible too?


What makes a black person marrying/having children with a white person socially "irresponsible"?
Please explain.



>personally, i think that was socially irresponsible.
>
>what was your black-ass thinking?

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Deadzombie
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215. "mongo and jstew's black wives aint shit, probably."
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i got a theory about american black women that go for american white men (if that's what those two are - throw cold truth in there too. his poor, poor wife).

... john ordered a woman up from korea like she a gotdamn piece of pizza.

>I can't believe Dan and the other white folks in power here
>stand for this kinda racist BS.

oh shit, dan and the other white folks should shut this place down, cause these niggas might be plottin'!

sounds real familiar.

>What makes a black person marrying/having children with a
>white person socially "irresponsible"?
>Please explain.

ok so you got these mixed babies, but the parents (and society) come with so much fucking baggage, i'd argue that you haven't a clue as to how to successfully give the child a sense of belonging.

belonging to something greater than mommy and daddy.

you give him/her a piece of this culture, a little of that culture and voila a well rounded human. nevermind both cultures are at each other's throats.

nah. you and you the white woman want to live in a bubble. and make love babies. and send them out into the world not knowing what black and white is.

...

ok im kidding, but for real.

  

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217. "RE: mongo and jstew's black wives aint shit, probably."
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>i got a theory about american black women that go for
>american white men (if that's what those two are - throw cold
>truth in there too. his poor, poor wife).
>
>... john ordered a woman up from korea like she a gotdamn
>piece of pizza.
>
>>I can't believe Dan and the other white folks in power here
>>stand for this kinda racist BS.
>
>oh shit, dan and the other white folks should shut this place
>down, cause these niggas might be plottin'!
>
>sounds real familiar.
>
>>What makes a black person marrying/having children with a
>>white person socially "irresponsible"?
>>Please explain.
>
>ok so you got these mixed babies, but the parents (and
>society) come with so much fucking baggage, i'd argue that you
>haven't a clue as to how to successfully give the child a
>sense of belonging.
>
>belonging to something greater than mommy and daddy.
>
>you give him/her a piece of this culture, a little of that
>culture and voila a well rounded human. nevermind both
>cultures are at each other's throats.
>
>nah. you and you the white woman want to live in a bubble. and
>make love babies. and send them out into the world not knowing
>what black and white is.
>
>...
>
>ok im kidding, but for real.

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219. "Never go full armchair activist retard. "
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220. "It was believable for a while too"
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221. "someone had to type it. and im willing to defend it."
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actually,

i just re-read it.

i stand behind it all.

  

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227. "RE: someone had to type it. and im willing to defend it."
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>actually,
>
>i just re-read it.
>
>i stand behind it all.

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Cold Truth
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231. "I really hope you don’t get caught reaching for your waistband"
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I really hope you don’t get caught reaching for your waistband

Not because I’d have any problem with you getting unjustly gunned down by a maniac heard of pigs or anything, since there’s literally nothing anyone could do to you that you wouldn’t deserve.

The biggest reason is, you getting shot to death would be disappointing. I’d much rather you receive a long, drawn out beating.

Coming in a slight second? The fact that it would make you a martyr.

99.9 % of all the marches, protests, blood, sweat, and tears that would get shed over your carcass would be wasted because frankly, you, the guy who posts online under the screen name Deadzombie, aren’t worthy of such effort on your behalf. On the flip, you’re the perfect pile of shit to sacrifice to the greater good so it might not be so bad.

You know what? I take it back. Go start some shit with some cops and do the whole world a favor.

  

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235. "do you really mean this? you promise?"
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238. "Absolutely. You have zero worth to human existence."
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246. "ok. now type something nice."
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249. "Do you actively know you’re garbage? "
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Or are you somehow convinced otherwise?

If you don’t believe you’re trash, there’s hope in a nice overdose of whatever drug you’re taking to aid this delusion.

  

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236. "start some shit with some cops =="
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Go outside with your skin showing, better yet with a tan. Actually-- don't do that.

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Cold Truth
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239. "Fair point, but he's gotta do *something* "
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He has to at least reach or ignore an order or SOMETHING.

If he got shot up simply sitting at a park bench without even menial provocation, his martyrdom would be through the roof. He needs to follow the established script.

  

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241. "*waves at officer while saying hello* Bang!! "
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He moved his hand and I feared for my life. I think he was on something.

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242. "That might work, especially if he's got his phone in his hand "
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A camera is considered a terrorist weapon these days, you know.

  

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224. "Hmmmm. Let me ask you. Where you "successfully" raised?"
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233. "tough call."
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jury is still deliberating.

  

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254. "lol u ain't shyt bruh"
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but im banned tho.
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259. "that nigga is trippin up the stairs..."
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262. "LOL What a fantastic punk bitch post! "
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400. "john ordered a woman up from korea like she a gotdamn piece of pizza."
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this is so sad but yet so funny
i often think of this line and laugh
like how can somebody be this fucKing ^$^*&*(#%^%
i'm not even going to display the adjective
but yeah
keep on truckin podna!

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401. "too fucking funny. i probably giggled myself to sleep that night. "
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191. "She didn't really, until college. "
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legato, staccato, andante, forte, fortissimo, piano, allegro, presto.

  

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237. "yup and cousins"
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245. "I came back and LOL"
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Some of yall are really super senstive to this.

Its almost as if a parent decides to arm their offspring with some knowledge its terrible

Folks keep saying its not the 60 or 70 and perhaps thats true but trust and believe white supremacy is still alive and kickin'

Its almost as if some of yall are offended if other peoples offspring dont have white friends.

You know there is diversity among Black people right?

I am sure living in Detroit colors (pardon the pun) my outlook. Since 1960 white folks been moving out because they want to but because I choose not to "chase" them so my offspring can have a "diverse" outlook Im the one thats racist..TUH *kisses teeth*

Black people and Non Black people of color always have to do the heavy work..FUCK THAT
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248. "funniest part....only 2 people answered no and are not "
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involved in all the goofy shit up top

=======================================
Coolin...

  

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287. "Girl, I'm so over this place lol "
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I'm preggo and need to stay calm. I just cannot with these brand new Black folks.

  

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315. "This happens on this board a lot, ppl judging ppl because they only"
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Have Blk friends. Yet this same criticism so never levied against Asians and Latinos if they stick to their own

It's only us that gets criticized ( usually by other Blk ppl) for not having a "diverse" group of friends.

I suspect most of these Blk folks that make these judgements don't even feel fully comfortable around their own ppl, or were so socially awkward and "geeky" that they felt like they only belong with whites or Asians because they bought into their middle class myth that all Blk ppl were thugs and hoodrats

It's really sad and annoying

prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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330. "Only by dumb niggas saving white women"
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>Have Blk friends. Yet this same criticism so never levied
>against Asians and Latinos if they stick to their own
>
>It's only us that gets criticized ( usually by other Blk ppl)
>for not having a "diverse" group of friends.

Ignore their dumb asses.....

  

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357. "well, this isn't true:"
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>Have Blk friends. Yet this same criticism so never levied
>against Asians and Latinos if they stick to their own
>
>It's only us that gets criticized ( usually by other Blk ppl)
>for not having a "diverse" group of friends.

i've heard the same criticism levied @ Asians and Latinos who 'stick to their own kind'. i may have heard this b/c i have had Asian and Latino friends.

LOL

but yes, they get the shit too. they got it in college from ppl who felt some kinda way about them all sitting together - like we blacks tended to sit together. i heard it from ppl who felt some kinda way about them having their own parties - like we blacks had our own parties. i heard it from ppl who felt some kinda way about them having their own student orgs...et al.

i also hear it as an adult, of course. i've heard it from ppl who complain about Asian and Latino gays having their own orgs/parties. i hear it from ppl who complain about Asians and Latinos communicating w/each other in their foreign languages.

it ain't just us.

fuck you.

  

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367. "yup"
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375. "Oh ok "
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prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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253. "archive this post please."
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255. "damn deadzombie out deejobram'd deejobram"
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it's like a okp troll royal rumble in here
feelings is getting hurt

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256. "lol nygga was legit flustered"
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268. "not really. i dont know why he aint been BANNED yet tho?"
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271. "you want me banned, dog?"
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yeesh.

  

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274. "You need to have a seat."
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283. "It's not as cool as you getting torn to shreds by wolves"
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but we'll take it.

  

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285. "does your wife wonder why you always type with a scowl?"
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"Please post a youtube video of you lighting yourself on fire. "


  

          

thanks

  

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292. "Please post a youtube video of you lighting yourself on fire. "
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thanks

  

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272. "zombies don't stay dead"
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275. "In that case, CAN WE HAVE AN ignore BUTTON PLEASE???"
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265. "LMAO at OKP troll royal rumble!!! n/m"
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257. "I am entertained (C) NoPayne"
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261. "White friends talk is not malicious "
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I went to a white elementary school with only 3 black kids including myself. The one I got went like this….
"Your white friends are great but they will not be punished for certain things the way you will. When they mess up or do something dumb adults will consider it "precocious" and not malicious. When you do the same, there is a likely chance that it won't be perceived that way and in fact can land you in deep trouble. So always keep the stuff we teach you in mind and don't follow behind your white friends blindly when they do dumb stuff, be your own person because the consequences are different for you and them. Now go outside and play."
I got the same talk for all my friends but race added an extra layer that I needed to understand to protect myself when my parents weren't around.

Surprise, surprise... study after study shows my parents were 100% right.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/12/11/racism_and_school_suspensions_black_girls_are_punished_more_harshly_than.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/03/21/292456211/black-preschoolers-far-more-likely-to-be-suspended
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264. "they used 'precocious' and 'malicious'?"
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fuck you.

  

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269. "i never heard PRECOCIOUS until i studied for the GRE"
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and sarah heard it at 9 years old

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280. "I'm paraphrasing a talk given to me around 4th grade"
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So no, that's not word for word but the over all gist of what was said.
But no, those words wouldn't have been beyond me. As much as I struggle with dysgraphia til this very day, by the 4th grade I was reading at a college level. It was one of the few things I was good at beside art, so my vocab/comprehension was out of this world.

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281. "bless your heart."
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that's precious.

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305. "i didn't have this talk and still knew better"
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race is not necessary to teach kids that life isn't fair...

we all learn that lesson...

i think the lesson may be valuable but how many people do yall think are going around getting in trouble while theire white friends aren't are doing so ignorant of white privilege?

i'm not saying a talk shouldn't be had...but with children ill-equippied to

a.) understand

b.) be willing to listen whether they understand or not

is wild to me

i grew up around white people...was aware of racial issues...and didn't have the white friends "talk"

*shrugs*

i'm over it at this point bc i realize that i don't even want to come to an understanding with the folks who find this necessary

i don't have a color-blind view of the world and still find this "talk" bizarre and doing as much harm as good

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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314. "When there are two systems of punishment at schools"
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one for white and one for black… even at the elementary level, I feel it's necessary. The whole, "don't trust your white friends, they'll leave you" nonsense I'm not down for at all, make no bones about it. But the "Hey, there are two systems of punishment so don't do dumb stuff and think you can get away with it just because your friends get away with it" is important, especially for kids in an all white environment, like I was. Kids just want to be just like their peers. If their peers have a privilege that they don't well that can end very badly… Most kids don't pick up the nuance but internalize that they are just bad because that's how kids process shit.
Saying shit to kids without explaining to them why is a crime. I'm not saying tell a child that at 2 years old but when they can understand it there's nothing wrong with explaining it to them.

You may have picked that up without anyone explicitly saying that to you but believe me there are many that don't.

It's not as divisive as people are trying to make it out to be. Out of all 5 of my siblings, I am the only one with a black partner. They all got the same talk too.



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318. "i think the pushback is from the 'don't trust your white friends'"
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part of the talk as laid out and cosigned in reply 41.

that's the part i found the most troubling and it seems most others who are expressing a problem w/the talk are also bristling at that part in particular.

and then others are chiming in support of that talk b/c they generally hate white ppl. LOL

fuck you.

  

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329. " But who said don't trust your white friends though?"
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People are hearing that part about easy outs for white kids in trouble in a fashion similar to someone literally hitting the keyboard when the message "hit any key to continue" appears on the monitor.

I'm starting to wonder if some of those taking it to heart are actually white dudes that bailed on their black friends at some point.

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335. "apparently you did you racist"
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Oh yeah maladjusted black folk who if you never mentioned race to your children
The horrors of it would have never befallen yall
Yall are the real racists
That right keep mentioning and noticing it
There!
Thats why yall can't have nice things
Like white friends

Frankly they went hyperbolic as fuck on yall
And are steady on that race blind ideology
Having no clue
Yes this is what they are sounding like

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336. "wasn't malcom x a racist?"
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dont we need more of that?

  

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338. "Malcolm ain't have white friends"
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351. "im sure he was friendly to a number of whites."
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356. "Correction"
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Malcolm did in fact have white fiends and spoke of them after his trip to Mecca. He marveled at the fact that in Islam (and north Africa) being white is nothing more than a descriptor e.g. "I am a man with white skin" as opposed to "I am a white man". Which is probably one of the reasons the west is so opposed to it

We can speculate he had friends in Europe (England) as well seeing as how he gave a talk at the Oxford union.

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384. "you messin up man"
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we are supposed to be firmly in NO NEW WHITE FRIENDS
section
and malcolm x creator of hithertoaforementioned no white friends section
ie white devils
would rumoredly non factually absolutely be in no white friends territory

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346. "i am entirely fine w/however i sound to you in this post, love."
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no problem w/it.

LOL

fuck you.

  

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387. "my white friend would have corrected me"
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darn
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344. "right here, toots:"
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Something along the lines of 'Don't count on them having your back if you get in trouble with them"

^^ that lie right there. I'm glad I never heard that lie from my ppl.

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358. "Don't count on != Don't trust"
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similar to how the saying "don't count your chickens before they hatch" does not equal "all the eggs will not hatch"

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369. "i disagree."
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fuck you.

  

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263. "I had the "white friends" talk when I was about 10."
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My best friend in the entire world was a white kid.

We went to different high schools & lost touch.

Then here comes Facebook, ten years later. He's grown up to be an extreme right-wing type with more than a touch of racism, and I can't deal with it. I was genuinely hurt, like "how can you be saying or believing these things? We used to be boys. You KNOW me."

But, he would come on my FB page periodically and have my comments sections in a shambles almost every time.

You know how sometimes you unfriend folks out of spite and feel better afterwards? I unfriended him out of frustration, pity, and a desire to not keep tarnishing my childhood memories of someone who was once a good friend.

Cut to last Thanksgiving, when I'm telling my mama this story.

"Mama," I said, "I had no idea dude would grow up to be--"

"--a racist?" She'd cut me off and finished my sentence.

"Yeah. How did you know?"

"That's what I was trying to tell you all the time twenty years ago: their whole family's like that. I had his cousin in one of my classes (Mama taught school, and this is a smallish town), and her parents had her moved to another homeroom because they didn't want her to have a black teacher."

So, yeah. Sometimes the "white friends" talk has some validity to it. That being said, I've had plenty of white (and everything else) friends as a teenager and in college where this wasn't an issue, so it's important not to stereotype and to address it on a case-by-case basis based on what the family is like, the kid's demeanor, lol.

And now I'm sad again. THANKS, OKP.

  

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266. "*hugs*"
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>And now I'm sad again. THANKS, OKP.

yeah i considered it a cushioning the blow
or no little lfresh you are not crazy
there is a good possibility that what you felt happened

i had a friend come back an apologize for some shit she did im middle school
it was more she bought into the crap another girl fed to her about they are alike (korean) and they should be friends and she shouldnt be friends with me
it wasnt specifically anti black
more xenophobic
but still she knew and for years i was like ...?


dunno the image that people have in here(militant anti white ...something) vs what i've had happen (dad checking on me constantly asking me questions my POV about things that happened how i felt that sort of thing)
yeah they tellin on themselves in here


and yes i have white friends (russian(ukrainian jew) lol!
shes married one of my best friends
i hooked them up
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282. "this is sad."
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i can only speculate that his views would have been different had you stayed close friends the whole time.

once that influence (you) was out of his life, it sounds like his familial influence took over and made him into another douche in a long line of douches.

  

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284. "i dont think them sharing a high school would've made a bit "
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291. "or like with so many people"
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"you're ok because i know you" but when it comes to the rest...

  

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296. "or that."
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and i think that's almost worse.

  

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370. "I had the SAME experience"
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286. "he has white school friends..."
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no adjustment required.

  

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288. "The saddest part about this is that kids don't care/don't know."
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Our parents spend so much time preparing us for the "real wold" that we do not realize we fall back on their perspective at the first sign of trouble. I do not believe anyone is born racist.

Every racist individual is an innocent child at birth which is slowly indoctrinated by their parents social views. Racist people don't just pop out of thin air, they are created by their care givers and society.

Let's consider Johnny (A white boy) is friends with James (A black boy) and they have a healthy and normal friendship. The black parents warn James about Johnny, and the white parents warn Johnny about James. The kids ignore it and continue being friends, and everything goes swimmingly until something bad happens.

Let's say Johnny and James have a heated argument and both walk away being angry/hurt by one another. What is the only frame of reference they have of each other that extends beyond their friendship?

Their skin color, and what each of them were taught/warned about by their parents. From this point on, both children will begin to equate being hurt by that person by their skin color, and on the cycle goes until they are adults, and have blinded themselves from the obviousness of the truth. That they were once friends that placed no emphasis on their skin color, until they were taught to.

These lessons will now extend to any other person of each color. Regardless of the quality of that person.

  

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289. "another white response. a postcard from utopia."
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290. "also. infants are able to nonverbally categorize people by race"
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and gender at six months.

yall keep thinking children don't understand race and differences.

you all should really be equipping children with the whole story.

...

a nigga up there said he had zero african-centered cultural items in his house.

grew up to marry a white woman.

STILL. no african centered shit in his house.

shit is a travesty.

  

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295. "RE: also. infants are able to nonverbally categorize people by race"
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Children can differentiate between race/color but they do not understand the social significance. The social significance is given to children by their parents.

I'm going to assume you are trolling and stop responding at this point.

Good luck to you in your quest.

  

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298. "what's the solution?"
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how should a parent introduce racial biases?

you think the child should essentially be 'colorblind'?

both black and white and other children should not know the atrocities that all their parents have done to each other?

should the child take this information personally?

or is it some disconnected idea that parent should probably not impart in the child.

not a troll. we're on this quest together.

are you white?

  

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297. "my moms used to collect those lil nygga angel statuettes"
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does that count?



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299. "This post really does have it all tho"
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>does that count?
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333. "you can keep thinking that if you want to."
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300. "i am convinced some of you folks have never met a white person. "
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not on my most paranoid, racially anxious, misanthropic day
would i try to get my kid to distrust his white friends on the basis of race.

you know who will leave you hanging high and dry when the chips are down?
assholes.

which race of ppl is more likely to be an asshole?

none of them.

talk to your kids about how to figure of that somebody ain't shit.
race don't play into that.

  

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301. "what kind of messages do you think white parents are passing down?"
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for years whites have reinforced racism.

why wouldn't that shape our narrative?

  

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322. "fucked up ones, just like the black parents-- generally. "
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the general rule is that humans are terrible
and pass terrible messages to their terrible children.

i don't think you understand how deep my hatred of everybody goes.
I've been alive for 31 years.

i have less than 10 friends.


i have met thousands of ppl.
less than 10 are ride or die.

I've not found that you can sort ride or die ppl based on race.
it's not a reliable indicator of anything.

at least not for me.
i tend to hate everybody.



  

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303. "*looks at ur avi*"
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yea anyway

it wasn't about getting me to distrust my white friends

my 'talks' were never planned sit downs

just explanations and conversations when situations arose

ie:

my brother grew up playing soccer so needless to say he had a lot of white buddies

in 7th grade him and his friends stole a box of fundraising candy from a band member

it was after school and his friend took the box and they all went to his friend house and ate most of it

the next day word got out and they got called to the principles office 1 by 1

somehow my brother was the only one that got in trouble and they was trying to get my mom to pay for the eaten candy

of course she wasn't having it and went to the school and raised hell and ended up not giving them a dime

but my brother still got suspended for 2 days

that's my 1st recollection of the talk

there were others

like when I got in trouble for talkin in class but my white friends who were the ones initially talking ain't get written up

anyway

that's what 'the talk' was to me



but im banned tho.
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312. "When situations arise is a good strategy"
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I don't see anything wrong with that given that racism is obviously real. I think anyone would be a fool to deny that.

When I was in school we had 1 teacher that would allow us to paddle each other for talking, haha. The first person that was caught got 1 thwack, and that person would search for another and get to thwack them twice. I got caught on purpose and got 3 thwacks so I could get my buddy with 4. Fun times.

  

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337. "thats actually exactly what yall are doing"
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>I don't see anything wrong with that given that racism is
>obviously real. I think anyone would be a fool to deny that.
>


And clearly don't believe in preparing your children
And operation on a bandaid
20/20 hindsight
Oh yeah that pesky little thing called racism
Type deal


Yall are trippin
Hard


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390. "Well when do you think parents bring it up?"
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Of course it's when situations arise. When else would it be?

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319. "a bitch is a bitch. "
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it's folks that are down, and folks that are not.
whites are not more or less likely to fuck you over.

i have learned this because both have fucked me over in equal measure.
i hate all ppl equally.

  

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320. "all 'fuck you overs' aren't the same."
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there's some shit that will have you out of a couple of bucks, or a coupe of years.

it's some shit that will affect your psyche.

affect your social decisions.

associations with whites don't just stop at THAT white.

that white has immediate family, who they are influenced by, who you will cross paths with.

it's not just no run to the ice cream truck together type shit.

  

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324. "i know. "
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it works like this.

there's an inner circle.
call it a circle of trust.

if you ain't in the circle of trust,
i dunno.

blacks and white are equally likely to end up there.
i'll say that.

  

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321. "yes. completely ignore context of what was said"
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and make it about u and your feelings.


but im banned tho.
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325. "the context is, ppl ain't shit, generally. "
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i'm pretty consistent in that area.

  

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332. "naw. "
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But not goin down the rabbit hole with u on shyt u need to be talkin to ur therapist about.

peace


but im banned tho.
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360. "^^ He's pretty consistent "
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316. "That avi ain't gonna make u seem unbiased...."
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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349. "or they might actually know some white people....."
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and see how out of touch and oblivious a lot of them are
even the liberal "good ones"
that may not lead to racism per say but just awkward moments a kid might not understand

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396. "^^^^^^^^"
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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

  

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311. "The dynamics of this one video per the exchanges here are hilarious..."
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Notice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbfCPH0ZEDg

1)Tyler had two white girls AND a white dude run up to hug him first.

2)The first of the two black kids that ran up to Tyler made sure his waves were on point as he pointed out that they both had fresh brush cuts.

It's more taught than we can believe folks.

"The more a country produces..the richer it is...the better it should take care of it's people. - Dr. Aleida Guevara"

  

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340. "that cute ass video made this entire post so worthwhile yo....lol..."
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question though, what did his hair look like before?? they were really impressed with his haircut!

  

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331. "lol at White posters kumbaya shit in here"
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339. "it's not just white posters"
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Welcome to the 'new' black
Where is you tell your child that they maybe treated differently than their white friends because they are black it will scare away your white friends and cause you not to have any and this is your fault and why racism persists. 0_o

  

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341. "THAT'S what you got outta this?? THAT???!!?? smh...."
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342. "Hyperbolic shit goes both ways"
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guess which is worse?

Nah
Yall keep it up though
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364. "what's this "Y'all"?? you won't find a single post with that angle from ..."
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me...

  

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368. " . . ."
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""I don't believe it's a good course of action to send your kids into the "



world with the impression that something that MIGHT happen....will DEFINITELY happen. I don't want to color my child's outlook on life and the world. I'll prepare them to handle general adversity. They'll be equipped with the appropriate mental tools indeed. ."



thats putting a bandaid on shit after the fact
nope dont warn your black child that hey the police may very well view them differently
don't color your black boy childs view of the police
because they might shoot him
right
ok
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377. "terminology glitch maybe?"
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1st: The term "color" was not literal....
2nd: How does that statement suggest in any shape form or fashion that my child is being raised with a "race blind ideology"....or whatever term it is you suggested?

  

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380. "cuz you said it up top...lol"
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you don't want your kid going into the world with baggage.

I get it but I don't agree with it.



  

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389. "How are y'all making the leap to baggage = color blind???"
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Nowhere have I ever suggested, stated, insinuated, mentioned, come across or conveyed anything resembling being color blind or raising a color blind child or being color blind myself.

y'all be reaching like shit....
.

  

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386. "feel free to correct yourself"
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*shrug*

like i said
the hyperbole goes both ways
and frankly
yall dont sound too connected to the current world in here
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391. "nothing to correct. confirmed the "Y'all" you refer to doesn't = Me...."
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i'm good...
but you should do a better job articulating whatever point it is you're attempting to make here...because you're falling short. Nothing you've typed has made a lick of sense so far.
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392. "it does"
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you not good
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393. "You've yet to back that up. Which clearly shows me that you're"
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more focused the agenda of making baseless claims, and statements that aren't substantiated by any ounce of sound reasoning and thought. ...


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359. "its not but I can see the black perspective to some degree"
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but the white kumbaya shit here is extra lols for me.

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362. "i just realized"
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SoWhat is the dude that came up with
when whiteness goes unchecked

but he up in arms in here?
word?
right
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365. "yeah I'm curious why he's so up in arms "
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like if three kids end up in interrogation rooms even for something like graffiti and one is white (or however you want to break it down) let's not pretend like the cops wouldn't play that up in trying to get the kid to break. It doesn't mean the kid is bad for being white it means the system will play divide and conquer against him. Fuck man-- folks just don't know what the "Hatetrix" is.

Cops do that shit all the time and as a lawyer (I assume) you'd think that would be part of the understanding of the initial statement.

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371. "I dunno why I don't hate white ppl."
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Maybe bc my parents never told me I couldn't trust my white friends and I e had white friends who have been great friends and wonderful ppl and so I don't see white ppl as a monolith. I know they're not all monsters and I take them as they come.

fuck you.

  

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378. "I dont either"
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>Maybe bc my parents never told me I couldn't trust my white
>friends and I e had white friends who have been great friends
>and wonderful ppl and so I don't see white ppl as a monolith.
>I know they're not all monsters and I take them as they come.


And as an adult and young kid Ive had good white friends too *shrug*. That doesnt mean you cant have that talk. The talk isnt about individuals. Its about the system.

In much of the same way you have that talk to kids about police. It isnt about individual policemen. Its about the system.

I will say that teen adolescence is a time where we as people become more assholish in nature. Thats why you dont need to have that talk when kids are young. But adolescence + white privelege is a volatile combo.


You know how many of my friends my mom warned me off of in jr high and hs black, white, asian, mexican? I continued rollin with those friends til my experiences confirmed what my mom warned me about.

and lol at a parent telling a kid to watch out for friends and a kid actually listening and being like "ok, im not gonna be that kids friend anymore, period."


My white people are the devil shit above was tongue in cheek. Of course Im not telling my son white people are the devil. He barely knows what a devil is. But best believe we have conversations about race, inequity, and privilege in a context he can start to process as questions come up. At some point it will lead to the white friends conversation as outlined by Atillah - maybe less to some degree, maybe more to some degree depending on where he's at.

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379. "cool."
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fuck you.

  

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381. "http://media3.giphy.com/media/62PP2yEIAZF6g/giphy.gif"
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http://media3.giphy.com/media/62PP2yEIAZF6g/giphy.gif

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398. "LOL"
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382. "omg please please hate white people"
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good white folks will tell you to hate them too
ask janey and mongo
you have straaaaayed my brother

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372. "misguided (dumb) black child taken advantage of by Devil"
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http://www.nicekicks.com/2014/12/17/high-schooler-laces-lesser-fortunate-classmate-jordan-11s/

  

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402. "Cmon, man. That kid looks like a real-life Kenny McCormick."
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399. "no really. I want a trophy for this. can it be archived?"
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403. "RE: no really. I want a trophy for this. can it be archived?"
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http://i.imgur.com/rGaBCKJ.jpg

  

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404. "nah. seriously. why don't my shit get archived?"
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it's cause im black?

  

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406. "I live in Sweden, so yes."
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no adjustment they're half white

The offspring :-D

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407. "didn't realize this was a two year old thread..."
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smh...

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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