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"...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
Sat Oct-06-07 12:07 AM by FNF UP UP AND AWAY

          

So I've explained this to a lot of people...let me name drop a few:

#1 Fab 5 Freddy
#2 Q-TIP!!!!...THAT'S RIGHT THE LEADER OF THE GROUP HIMSELF!!!
#3 Common
#4 Questlove

and more....ahem....

"I DID NOT GROW UP ON ATCQ!!!..."

THE LITTLE GHETTO KID FROM THE MEAN STREETS OF THE WESTSIDE OF CHICAGO GREW UP ON SPICE 1, 8-BALL & MJG, NWA AND SNOOP DOGG...

I WASNT A BACKPACKER RAP ENTHUSIAST!!!...I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE...I GREW UP ON GANGSTA RAP!!!

HAVE I LISTENED TO MM IN ITS ENTIRETY?...NO!!!...(Sorry Quest)...

GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND YOUR SACRED COWS...SOME OF YA'LL MAKE ME SICK...

AND FYI WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY OFFERED TO ME I TURNED IT DOWN BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO BE HONORING THEM BECAUSE WHILE I WAS FULLY AWARE OF THEIR IMPACT IN HIP-HOP I WASNT REALLY AWARE OF THEIR MUSIC LIKE THAT...BUT GUESS WHO WANTED ME TO BE APART OF IT....HMMMM...HOW ABOUT...Q-TIP!!!...

SO NOW ARE YOU GOING TO HATE ON "ATCQ" BECAUSE THEY WANTED SOMEBODY WHO DIDNT REALLY KNOW THERE MUSIC TO HONOR THEM BY COVERING SOME OF THEIR MUSIC?...THINK ON THAT OKP'S

P.S. I FORGET THE WORDS TO SOME OF MY OWN SONGS ON STAGE...HEY IT HAPPENS...


THE COOL DEC. 18TH...

"SUPERSTAR"
A HYPE WILLIAMS PRODUCTION
COMING SOON

  

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You didn't have to explain jack, but alright, Lu.
Oct 06th 2007
1
first
Oct 06th 2007
2
Without forcing it
Oct 06th 2007
3
You should know not to mind some of the folks by now. Do ya thang Lupe!
Oct 06th 2007
4
DONT TAZE ME BRO!!!!!!!!
Oct 06th 2007
5
IS ANYBODY ELSE SEEING THIS!?
Oct 06th 2007
20
lmao
Oct 06th 2007
35
*dead*
Oct 07th 2007
288
FATALITY
Oct 08th 2007
401
you're the man lupe
Oct 06th 2007
6
8-ball's "lost" is technically "backpackerish-emo-gangsta shit"
Oct 06th 2007
7
hype's doing the superstar video? woooooo..
Oct 06th 2007
8
fuck em! (c) Weezy
Oct 06th 2007
9
...And is The Instrumental video ever being released?
Oct 06th 2007
10
cuz Tribe is backpack.
Oct 06th 2007
11
i'd bet you'd run from a street battle only togo talk slick on recoard
Oct 06th 2007
12
lollerskates.
Oct 06th 2007
13
you aren't any more 'hiphop' than souljah boy, chingy, j-kwon...
Oct 06th 2007
14
RE: you aren't any more 'hiphop' than souljah boy, chingy, j-kwon...
Oct 06th 2007
18
      do you ever think about when you outta here?
Oct 06th 2007
19
      nah you got sonned
Oct 06th 2007
44
           ^ ^ not very familiar with the KRS-ONE catalog
Oct 06th 2007
134
                ^^^ down with the sound called BDP
Oct 08th 2007
421
      PWND
Oct 06th 2007
168
um... ALL THE MORE reason why you should make an effort
Oct 06th 2007
15
RE: um... ALL THE MORE reason why you should make an effort
Oct 06th 2007
16
      no doubt i got the soulseek ready.
Oct 06th 2007
22
fuck all of that, superstar is directed by hype?!?
Oct 06th 2007
17
there are 3 (4) (5) people in tribe. it's not just Q Tip
Oct 06th 2007
21
oh shit! skeff anslem he gets props too...
Oct 06th 2007
24
      hahah. (c) tip
Oct 07th 2007
322
      ^ ^ never heard of jarobi or consequence?
Oct 08th 2007
445
I think you guys broke him
Oct 06th 2007
23
you don't have to explain yourself...
Oct 06th 2007
25
ok.. but i know u listened to it
Oct 06th 2007
26
homies got the pitch forks and torches ready.
Oct 06th 2007
27
Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not..
Oct 06th 2007
28
^skin thinner than rice paper
Oct 06th 2007
30
RE: ^skin thinner than rice paper
Oct 06th 2007
39
      No, seriously, you all need to shut the hell up.
Oct 06th 2007
42
           RE: No, seriously, you all need to shut the hell up.
Oct 06th 2007
45
                lol you ARE right!
Oct 06th 2007
49
                     RE: lol you ARE right!
Oct 06th 2007
51
                          you said it better than i could have
Oct 06th 2007
61
RE: Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not..
Oct 06th 2007
32
but you do like the same/similar music though, you're just being ornery
Oct 06th 2007
33
dude regardless of how his music sounds
Oct 06th 2007
46
lower your voice, who you cussin at?
Oct 06th 2007
50
sorry....
Oct 06th 2007
53
For someone who many on OKP say is *nice* on the mic,
Oct 08th 2007
426
Tell it like it is.
Oct 06th 2007
60
RE: Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not..
Oct 06th 2007
36
sarcasm isn't really helping you, but oh well
Oct 06th 2007
74
      AP-f'real tho...
Oct 06th 2007
172
      I'm just dealing with how he came off interacting with his fans
Oct 08th 2007
447
           on that, i fully agree...
Oct 08th 2007
462
      ETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 06th 2007
173
RE: Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not..
Oct 06th 2007
38
this is silly.
Oct 06th 2007
69
I couldn't care less about hearing Midnight Marauders
Oct 06th 2007
119
RE: I couldn't care less about hearing Midnight Marauders
Oct 08th 2007
442
co-sign
Oct 08th 2007
383
ok, i never really cared that much that you didnt peep it, but
Oct 06th 2007
29
Dude,
Oct 06th 2007
31
RE: Dude,
Oct 06th 2007
34
      RE: Dude,
Oct 06th 2007
37
      wtf are you talking about
Oct 06th 2007
47
           Some ppl on here are crazy.
Oct 06th 2007
146
                ...flipping out over a grown man who doesn't eat salad
Oct 06th 2007
174
                     ^ winner!
Oct 06th 2007
191
                     lol exactly lol
Oct 08th 2007
490
      you and hype shooting for superstar lu?
Oct 06th 2007
43
      sheesh
Oct 06th 2007
62
this thread delivers.
Oct 06th 2007
40
RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
Oct 06th 2007
41
Lupe's quick and efficient sonnage of okayplayer has....
Oct 06th 2007
48
FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCK TRIBE WITH A SICK DICK!!!!
Oct 06th 2007
52
I'm saying tho.
Oct 06th 2007
54
if the nigga doesnt want to hear it so what
Oct 06th 2007
70
you should've got spike jonze instead
Oct 06th 2007
55
basically dawg. matter fact WHY would u wanna hear it now?
Oct 06th 2007
56
this is possibly the most retarted post i've ever seen on here
Oct 07th 2007
289
It's SPM...everything he type is pretty retarded.
Oct 08th 2007
417
u funny as hell fam
Oct 07th 2007
300
awwready SPM in the building keepin it real for em
Oct 08th 2007
488
Just stop posting here, fam...
Oct 06th 2007
57
bottom line.. we would clown ANYONE who posted like lupe does...
Oct 06th 2007
89
      Cosign alla dis shit
Oct 07th 2007
296
But why do it at all? Q-Tip is big and all, but he can't be that scary
Oct 06th 2007
58
enough people have been jerks in this post already
Oct 06th 2007
59
this is pure revisionist history here:
Oct 06th 2007
80
      LOLz
Oct 06th 2007
82
      i was about to say. most heads were bumping all three
Oct 06th 2007
83
      when were u born....cause i think u lying
Oct 06th 2007
114
           i saw tribe at love, the biggest club in dc and...
Oct 06th 2007
138
           um....it was a tribe concert
Oct 06th 2007
175
           according to you, women don't go crazy over electric relaxation
Oct 08th 2007
448
           RE: i saw tribe at love, the biggest club in dc and...
Oct 06th 2007
179
           Nah fam, I'm 28, born in '79. I was in the 9th grade at Masterman
Oct 08th 2007
389
      damn dog, how young are you?
Oct 06th 2007
128
      i was in 3rd Grade during Midnight Maurauders
Oct 06th 2007
169
      dawg u must be forgetting METHOD MAN and CREAM
Oct 06th 2007
181
           RE: dawg u must be forgetting METHOD MAN and CREAM
Oct 06th 2007
187
           according to the RIAA database they both didn't go platinum till
Oct 06th 2007
196
           RE: dawg u must be forgetting METHOD MAN and CREAM
Oct 06th 2007
211
                how u think i heard of Wu genius
Oct 06th 2007
235
                     dawg, I don't know why you keep comin' at me like we're arguin' sports
Oct 07th 2007
270
                          nigga u white (i think) and from SJ
Oct 07th 2007
323
                               LMAO @ 'i think"
Oct 07th 2007
326
                               RE: nigga u white (i think) and from SJ
Oct 08th 2007
412
                                    Wu got mad play on 99
Oct 08th 2007
428
                                         THANK YOU
Oct 08th 2007
446
                                         The only two jawns that Tribe had that got major burn on 99
Oct 08th 2007
453
                                              RE: The only two jawns that Tribe had that got major burn on 99
Oct 08th 2007
465
                                         in 1993?
Oct 08th 2007
464
                                              You're corrcet about "C.R.E.A.M."
Oct 08th 2007
467
      Doggystyle was def the most popular album out of the three...
Oct 06th 2007
148
      EVERYONE ranks MM over doggystyle & 36chambers...
Oct 06th 2007
149
           not really n/m
Oct 06th 2007
159
           i do not.
Oct 06th 2007
160
           RE: EVERYME ranks MM over doggystyle & 36chambers...
Oct 06th 2007
180
           everyone YOU know maybe
Oct 06th 2007
240
I give you 16 dollars you give me 16 tracks... (c) 2pac
Oct 06th 2007
63
Rosenberg's take on it
Oct 06th 2007
64
LMAO @ ya'll pussies getting ya panties mad at Lupe
Oct 06th 2007
65
Lupe your music is amazing regardless.....
Oct 06th 2007
66
double post
Oct 06th 2007
67
you actually make it worse every time you talk about it
Oct 06th 2007
68
^^will he have anything to say about this
Oct 06th 2007
81
pretty much, dude's mad at himself & making another emo post about it
Oct 06th 2007
131
CO-SIGN ON ALL THIS SHIT.
Oct 08th 2007
404
and here we are agree-ish
Oct 06th 2007
184
i dont need an explination of this
Oct 06th 2007
71
Seriously though, if you get around to it, it's a good album , and
Oct 06th 2007
72
I'm confused here...
Oct 06th 2007
73
Co-sign!
Oct 06th 2007
110
co-signage!
Oct 08th 2007
424
Any Nigga That Grew Up Listening To Spice 1 and Too Short
Oct 06th 2007
75
come on, man
Oct 06th 2007
76
Truthfully, I find it as odd, cuz its one of my top 5 favorite albums
Oct 06th 2007
79
      im not hard on people like that
Oct 06th 2007
85
      RE: Truthfully, I find it as odd, cuz its one of my top 5 favorite album...
Oct 06th 2007
90
      RE: Truthfully, I find it as odd, cuz its one of my top 5 favorite album...
Oct 06th 2007
92
      You really area stuid wigger.
Oct 07th 2007
353
           Hi pete!!
Oct 08th 2007
470
      unless your like 12 what are you listening to hiphop for?
Oct 06th 2007
222
      Two false statements here:
Oct 06th 2007
229
hell yeah!
Oct 06th 2007
125
I HAD ELECTRIC RELAXATION BOOTLEG BEFORE THE SHIT
Oct 06th 2007
77
^^^failed to register a laugh
Oct 06th 2007
87
      ^^^^will be first in line to get the Cool^^^^
Oct 06th 2007
106
stop being so sensitive....
Oct 06th 2007
78
it's one thing to beat a dead horse, but to dig up a buried carcass
Oct 06th 2007
84
'On some CSI//cold case...solve a rape from '68'-shit lol
Oct 06th 2007
96
      ha. i can see some 98 year old woman suing her employer
Oct 07th 2007
294
Who thinks that was a good look for Q-Tip?
Oct 06th 2007
86
he should have gotten common or talib to take lupes place
Oct 07th 2007
266
why is this guy so sensitive, hey Lu you still movin Heroin?
Oct 06th 2007
88
I dont think the problem is that you didnt listen to it as a kid
Oct 06th 2007
91
RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
Oct 06th 2007
93
*shrug
Oct 06th 2007
94
MC Eiht >>>>>>>>>>> Spice-1...sorry to post-jack
Oct 06th 2007
95
Geeeah.
Oct 06th 2007
99
TROOF
Oct 06th 2007
101
Iono about that fam, the East Bay Gangsta had some shit....
Oct 06th 2007
113
Didn't Eiht show him out on numerous collabs tho?
Oct 06th 2007
118
      They was about even on Murda Show...
Oct 06th 2007
121
      Spice 1 and Redman destroyed that track on We Come Strapped tho...
Oct 06th 2007
122
agreed
Oct 06th 2007
127
still jackin'- 415 '41Fivin=classic most slept on by 'heads'
Oct 06th 2007
186
I disagree. Spice 1's styles are nuts. Plus the Spice cameo on WCS
Oct 08th 2007
476
But you gotta respect the irony/outrage
Oct 06th 2007
97
Its not that...its not even about Tribe really...its his blatant disresp...
Oct 06th 2007
103
yeah that all makes sense
Oct 06th 2007
117
its all about respect, homie...
Oct 06th 2007
120
very true
Oct 06th 2007
129
In the meantime, I hope this is someone who hacked Lupe's account
Oct 06th 2007
104
wait a second....so Q-Tip is your friend.....
Oct 06th 2007
98
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 06th 2007
176
Came here to post this!
Oct 07th 2007
299
out of curiosity, ever read the book Killobyte?
Oct 07th 2007
325
STOP MAKING SENSE!!!
Oct 08th 2007
384
i mean...not even a "my bad"?
Oct 06th 2007
100
You're a lame...
Oct 06th 2007
102
this thread is not nearly as entertaining
Oct 06th 2007
105
Ya'll are some funny style ass cats around here sometimes.
Oct 06th 2007
107
none of your wack analogies work though
Oct 06th 2007
135
So the fact that he posts here makes him "different" than those others?
Oct 06th 2007
198
      he played himself with this post, I have no desire to debate it further
Oct 06th 2007
214
FOH.
Oct 06th 2007
178
Something not make sense to you, sweetie?
Oct 06th 2007
199
      No. because Thought doesn't rhyme about poppn slugs n pimpn bidges
Oct 07th 2007
285
Blu and Death Certificate? Huh?!
Oct 07th 2007
259
when did not knowing classics make you less of an emcee?
Oct 06th 2007
108
I read a few of the replies & I gotta say
Oct 06th 2007
109
That is true, the East Coast never really popped in the Midwest...
Oct 06th 2007
111
basically i'm from the east coast and in 93 wasn't NONE of my peers
Oct 06th 2007
115
How old were you in '93 again? n/m
Oct 07th 2007
291
hood shit? wtf, tribe is from the hood, as well as most ny acts
Oct 06th 2007
132
probably not a good idea to use Common in defense of Lupe..
Oct 07th 2007
290
      Shoo only Com? What about friggin No ID
Oct 08th 2007
418
the hate and dick riding is this post is obscene
Oct 06th 2007
112
u are an idiot, "backpack" and "gangster" rap? nigger please
Oct 06th 2007
116
dog....you went a li'l kweli in this post
Oct 06th 2007
123
stop explaining yourself to people fam
Oct 06th 2007
124
Y'all niggas funny
Oct 06th 2007
126
COSIGN IN SIZE 72 FONT.
Oct 06th 2007
147
Had a spark when you started
Oct 06th 2007
130
Someone is gon have to explain this Tribe Paved the Way stuff for me
Oct 06th 2007
133
Geto Boys fam?
Oct 06th 2007
136
Storytellin....Political Content...
Oct 06th 2007
140
      you forgot voices too...
Oct 06th 2007
142
      I would say those are more Com type songs than anything.
Oct 06th 2007
144
      Fam, I've listened to the Geto Boys for over 15 years and...
Oct 08th 2007
466
Where you get Geto Boys outta Lupe?
Oct 06th 2007
137
I get more of a Skee-Lo vibe than anything n/m
Oct 06th 2007
139
LMFAO!
Oct 06th 2007
162
Pharrell was the first person i heard bring up Tribe, after that its bee...
Oct 06th 2007
153
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW this post is crazy
Oct 06th 2007
141
Wanna Leak "Wake up in Tokyo"? thanks
Oct 06th 2007
143
yo, lupe
Oct 06th 2007
145
The Low End Theory is a better album anyway
Oct 06th 2007
150
It's not simply about the fact that people love the album...
Oct 06th 2007
155
I know people who love hip-hop and refuse to listen to...
Oct 06th 2007
161
COSIZZLE!
Oct 08th 2007
443
lolz.
Oct 06th 2007
151
*bingo*
Oct 06th 2007
163
RE: lolz.
Oct 06th 2007
177
^^thinks OKPs buy albums
Oct 06th 2007
195
      RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums
Oct 06th 2007
236
           RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums
Oct 06th 2007
243
                RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums
Oct 07th 2007
268
                     RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums
Oct 08th 2007
408
agreed
Oct 07th 2007
264
right?
Oct 07th 2007
318
aaaand the thread can now be closed. excellent points.
Oct 07th 2007
344
I can't blame you for not listening..
Oct 06th 2007
152
I'm the same way.
Oct 06th 2007
157
yep.
Oct 06th 2007
167
to quote Andre Benjamin...
Oct 06th 2007
154
Let's not.
Oct 06th 2007
156
lol. you took that so personal.
Oct 06th 2007
158
      RE: lol.
Oct 06th 2007
171
      As I said...
Oct 06th 2007
182
      If someone is better than you..
Oct 07th 2007
328
      If he was asked to honor ATCQ
Oct 08th 2007
434
great music?!!?!
Oct 06th 2007
164
      RE: great music?!!?!
Oct 06th 2007
165
           lmao
Oct 06th 2007
166
NO ONE CALLED IT BACKPACK RAP BACK THEN.
Oct 06th 2007
170
RE: NO ONE CALLED IT BACKPACK RAP BACK THEN.
Oct 06th 2007
183
No One Called It Backpack Rap...they called it "That Weird Sh*t"
Oct 06th 2007
185
      i can't even roll with this, man
Oct 06th 2007
188
      RE: i can't even roll with this, man
Oct 06th 2007
192
      Oh I feel you...
Oct 06th 2007
216
           I don't think you heard Wise....he was saying that...
Oct 08th 2007
478
      RE: No One Called It Backpack Rap...they called it "That Weird Sh*t"
Oct 06th 2007
189
           When I got to college, I found this out n/m
Oct 06th 2007
190
           Welcome To The Midwest....(see post #216)
Oct 06th 2007
217
cosign posts 93, 103, 151, 155, etc.
Oct 06th 2007
193
Knowing or not knowing Tribe isn't this 'issue'
Oct 06th 2007
194
You Took An Huge "L." On Theze Boardz When You Firzt Mentioned It
Oct 06th 2007
197
Fuck what you do or don't listen to...
Oct 06th 2007
200
since Ahmir and none of y/our OG's are willing to say this, I will:
Oct 06th 2007
201
RE: since Ahmir and none of y/our OG's are willing to say this, I will:
Oct 06th 2007
202
lol
Oct 06th 2007
218
hilarious reply
Oct 06th 2007
232
LMAO @ the av
Oct 08th 2007
431
LOL
Oct 07th 2007
298
*laughs and leaves*
Oct 07th 2007
301
*cackles*
Oct 07th 2007
310
LMAOOOO that is hilarious.
Oct 07th 2007
345
bwahahaha
Oct 08th 2007
372
lmfao
Oct 08th 2007
387
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oct 08th 2007
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RE: since Ahmir and none of y/our OG's are willing to say this, I will:
Oct 08th 2007
459
AAAAAAANNNNNND CUT!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 06th 2007
203
ITS GETTIN HOT IN HURRR(C)
Oct 06th 2007
204
thats such bullshit man, seriously
Oct 06th 2007
205
Sonned? LMAO
Oct 06th 2007
206
RE: Sonned? LMAO
Oct 08th 2007
419
      yo, your album is bangin
Oct 08th 2007
449
           RE: yo, your album is bangin
Oct 08th 2007
460
Why does it matter
Oct 06th 2007
210
lmao @ calling your own "sonning"
Oct 06th 2007
212
RE: lmao @ calling your own "sonning"
Oct 06th 2007
215
'HE RAPS BETTER THAN ME!'
Oct 06th 2007
220
Tay raps better than you, too, so ...
Oct 06th 2007
221
RE: thats such bullshit man, seriously
Oct 06th 2007
239
arent u part of the white rappers entourage?
Oct 07th 2007
247
      RE: arent u part of the white rappers entourage?
Oct 07th 2007
361
You're the most consistently mad dude on here..
Oct 07th 2007
278
Basically
Oct 06th 2007
207
RE: WHY LU, WHY!!
Oct 06th 2007
209
RE: Basically
Oct 08th 2007
407
Thank you Tay!!! *wraps this post in caution tape*
Oct 06th 2007
208
On some serious shit.
Oct 06th 2007
213
meh, thats some backwards shit u just wrote
Oct 06th 2007
230
since you edited to make it more snarky....I'm goin in
Oct 06th 2007
242
      RE: since you edited to make it more snarky....I'm goin in
Oct 06th 2007
245
      lol i edited because of some spelling mistakes
Oct 07th 2007
256
      u know what. im stepping out of this argument. lol i dont care this
Oct 07th 2007
260
      I'mma break this shit down so it don't need to be broke no mo:
Oct 07th 2007
262
      *photographical embodiment of above post contained within*
Oct 07th 2007
271
      I DOUBLE DARE LUPE 2 REPLY TO THIS POST
Oct 07th 2007
284
      But DMX actually claimed he had no interest in listening to 2Pac.
Oct 07th 2007
370
      crack kills tho.
Oct 08th 2007
423
      wasn't that shortly before his career tanked?
Oct 08th 2007
440
      *drops mic*
Oct 08th 2007
392
      that makes perfect sense, however....
Oct 08th 2007
433
      You lump Lupe in with J*Davey? Your musical opinion is supect
Oct 08th 2007
438
      in the hopes of helpin my man out." No you weren't.....
Oct 07th 2007
295
      You apparently dont understand what it means to check someone
Oct 07th 2007
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           I understand the theory behind "friends checking
Oct 07th 2007
304
                alright kiddo
Oct 07th 2007
330
                if you see ya mans whylin out IN PUBLIC....
Oct 07th 2007
331
                     Im all for pullin people up on their shit......
Oct 07th 2007
355
                     lol nygga u full of shyt
Oct 08th 2007
432
                          if that wasn't checking someone in public, what is?
Oct 08th 2007
444
                               besides the fact that the nigga been baiting cats with MM for MONTHS
Oct 08th 2007
485
      my thoughts on that paragraph....
Oct 08th 2007
429
"Fiascogate" = ETHER
Oct 06th 2007
233
imma have to read this exchange later, when i'm not fucked up.
Oct 07th 2007
251
Word up, son. Let 'em know tho, son. I feel you, man. Let 'em know, son.
Oct 07th 2007
253
QFT...this post is crazy.
Oct 07th 2007
255
man i love this place
Oct 07th 2007
283
And there you have it.
Oct 07th 2007
297
Dear Phonte.
Oct 07th 2007
302
GET ME BODIED! GET ME BODIED! GET ME BODIED!
Oct 07th 2007
327
*chokes on popcorn*
Oct 08th 2007
377
you stupid.
Oct 08th 2007
386
you just sold me a copy of 'getback'
Oct 08th 2007
395
Grand-sonned
Oct 08th 2007
436
*tags name on wall*
Oct 06th 2007
219
why do you come on here and hang yourself?
Oct 06th 2007
223
I'm a fan of yours, and I will continue to be...
Oct 06th 2007
224
This would be like Stevie asking me to sing "Living for the City" with h...
Oct 06th 2007
225
I LOVE YOU LUPE
Oct 06th 2007
226
i had to check your profile to verify your gender just now.
Oct 06th 2007
228
word, cuz that's some straight up lickin' of the balls right there...
Oct 08th 2007
492
?!!?!
Oct 07th 2007
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RE: I LOVE YOU LUPE
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If you ever do listen to MM, please write a review of it for us.
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i didn't even know this assface fucked up the song, that is purely ...
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how fucking HARD is it to listen to an album ?
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PURE ETHER
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Lupe Clears the Air (Swipe)
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      RE: Lupe Clears the Air (Swipe)
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      RE: Lupe Clears the Air (Swipe)
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      if anything this is a L for Qtip
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      I agree with that too, they shouldn't have pushed him into it.
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      but
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      He did Busta's verse? I thought Busta came out to do his verse?
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see what NAS has started, y'all playing right into it
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I clicked on this post at 0 replies
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Now think on this...
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(*tipsy wail*)Ah, I'm still a fan and all but Lupe is either dumb as hel...
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LOL @ Lupe Haters....
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I think it is those that have come in here to defend him on the matter
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Guys, Phonte's reply is the intelligent and most common sense one.
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yeah nigga...post need to be finished
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      Too Late Mash, This Shit Has Become An OKP Meeting Point Post
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he prob forgot the lyrics so noone could say he was a 'backpacker'
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to lupe & phonte
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read phonte's message again
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all i said that lupe never should of copped pleas
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oh and also....i think you need to reread whut i said
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damn this nigga kinda went IN on phonte,lol
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and Phonte kinda went IN your girlfriend, lol
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      ^^incast joke level of funny at this point^^
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uh, y'all do realize that lupe ain't sell THAT much more than LB
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lol @ all this bullshit
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RE: lol @ all this bullshit
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LOL
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I got $20 that says he listened to it a long time ago
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*smacks forehead*
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Lupe Saying This, Is Like Bilal Saying He Never Listened To Prince's.......
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^^^bingo
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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exactly
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DAMN
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Wait, u did a tribute song on nat'l tv & didn't listen to the song???
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Shit does happen, but there is shit you just dont say here...
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i hope you realize people tastes differ...and there's no standard
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      Oh I know...
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LOL at this post..
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Do you rap?
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      tru good point
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      how can MM pave the way for lupe when he was never inspired by it???
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           Paving the way doesn't necessarily mean being a direct influence
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           but i don't recall lupe ever saying he DISLIKED tribe...just that he nev...
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           i hear you, Tiger Woods...fuck Charlie Sifford
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                i love sarcasm
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                No, by my definition...
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                ^^^^When sarcasm goes wrong
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                     RE: ^^^^When sarcasm goes wrong
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Lupe Won OKP gets an L again
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^^^ Stan #2 hundred something ^^^
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^^^Posts With An Avi Of Kanye In A Michael Jackson Jacket^^^
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you have kanye in your avatar... you have NO credibility
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what a fucking trainwreck.
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Pretty much on both counts
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This is great shit to read when ur hungover.........
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RE: This is great shit to read when ur hungover.........
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WFT?! n/m
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half the people in this post like Clipse... what do they know?
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wow
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Oh fuck off.
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exactly what masses has Lupe reached fam?
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      ^^real talk
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lol
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*waits for "Leave Lupe Alone" clip on youtube*
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lol.
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lmao. this nigga's a dickhead.
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truth
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kids like u and my brother (he's a 88 baby) give me hope for music
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co-sign that
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this post is great, minus the dickhead comment
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ask a nigga anything: "ay nigga, what's the capital of zimbabwe?"
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Missed this reply before, and yeah, it's on point
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end of thread.
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Chris Rock reference=GOAT
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Can this PLEASE get an Archive??
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PLEASE???!???
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Another thought
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no.
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not no, but hell no.
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RE: Another thought
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      you have to remember u were born in 87. most of the people who
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           RE: you have to remember u were born in 87. most of the people who
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           lol i feel you though. i'm just saying be prepared for people to
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                RE: lol i feel you though. i'm just saying be prepared for people to
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                     again, no.
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                     RE: again, no.
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                     i feel you fam. pause.
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           RE: you have to remember u were born in 87. most of the people who
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these girls are tryna be queens, Lu!!!
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i like your music, but ive come to realize your a douchebag
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maaaaaaaaaan....
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Alright muhfukka, now you've got NO excuse....
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i could give a f*ck less (c) SV
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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damn...lol
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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props to Phonte for telling it like it is
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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lmfao....
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All respect due, but didnt you grow up in Maywood for the most part
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lmao @ ur screenname being 'random fact' & this post
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wowwwwwwwwwwwwww (c) flavor flav
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Maywood is hood.I don't know what part you been to,but niggas is
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MAYWOOD IS THE Hood (4 Hunnerd!)
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Maywood IS NOT Madison and Kedzie, my man.
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Huh? Maywood IS hood...ha ha.
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      I have friends that stay in Maywood.....its no Madison and Kedzie/ K-Tow...
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i don't care that Lupe hasn't listened to MM, but...
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i vote the made you look instrumental
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      Thats because you were 6 years old when MM was released fam...
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theres almost 400 replies!
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I hope, one day, you do something that warrants this much attention
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Sheeeit, if this is all it takes I'm bout to fumble through "Award Tour"...
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RE: theres almost 400 replies!
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Von, lets hear your opinion if you're going to post in here...
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      well
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Effin' Eff-up indeed...
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What a mess
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RE: What a mess
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GrandStyleZ Hack Into Your Account?
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i don't think this post ever got a chance to touch the second page.
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RE: i don't think this post ever got a chance to touch the second page.
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Lu, see post 201.
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i was here...
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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and right now, aspiring rappers are claiming they don't bump your music
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LMFAO!!!!
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^^aight....shits outta hand..
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RE: and right now, aspiring rappers are claiming they don't bump your mu...
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      i don't know if he's a 'friend' maybe he expected more of his 'friend'?
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This shit is silly
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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when did this place turn into GD? lol
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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i missed the school bus
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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this is great! lol your goin in on these herbs without even trying or
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.
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this post is tragic...
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RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To...
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No Big Deal
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RE: No Big Deal
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Just go listen to the fuckin album nigga damn,
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damn.. how is this still going strong?
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i know, right..and the fuck up was hardly noticeable
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      the only people who are going hard in this thread are...
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QUIT BEING A FUCKING BABY AND LISTEN TO THE GOD DAMN ALBUM
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i wanna see someone say that shit about a kanye album
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Damn. If you could sell albums like posts you'd be running shit
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This post pushed more units than Game Theory
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and even after all of this, the show was still hot...including his perfo...
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ActWon
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1. "You didn't have to explain jack, but alright, Lu."
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*awaits the negative of Dumb It Down, Geek Down, about hoes and marijuana, with a 8Ball flow*

  

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steelreserve40
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2. "first"
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it happens.

'a baker earns his living by baking. a carpenter, by building things. youre a rapper, RAP MOTHERFUCKER' - lyor cohen

ssbb fc:5455-9051-5437 tag: hlbx9

  

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soulive
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3. "Without forcing it"
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I will say that it would still be worthwhile to check out Tribe, the group and their music. The similarities between your music/messages, even with your proclamation of never hearing or listening to them, is just testament that history repeats itself.

I didn't grow up with Marvin or James or Sly but I'll be damned if their music isn't a part of my makeup. Music is devoid of time in its influence and Tribe's music is timeless and doesn't age (shit, at least to me)

Tribe is the most consistent and, my personal favorite, hip hop group of all time. The fact that Tip asked you to be a part of it is indeed an honor but I wouldn't get too caught up in forgetting the words to whatever or handing out online kneejerk reactions to whatever. Worse things can, do and will continue to happen.

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Dr_Fresh
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4. "You should know not to mind some of the folks by now. Do ya thang Lupe!"
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/antix818/

http://stuffography.tumblr.com/

  

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The3rdOne
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5. "DONT TAZE ME BRO!!!!!!!!"
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Zayus
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20. "IS ANYBODY ELSE SEEING THIS!?"
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AAAH OH GOD

  

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Enemy Of Mankind
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35. "lmao"
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288. "*dead*"
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n/m

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

  

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Instant_Vintage
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401. "FATALITY"
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www.nappyafro.com | www.soulections.com

  

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NAffy5488
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6. "you're the man lupe"
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i honestly could really care less what kind of music you listen to
everyone has their own tastes, and im perfectly cool with that

i didnt grow up on atcq either, so i know where you coming from with that
i have listened to the whole album though, but still...

keep doing you lupe
you dont have to please these assholes
you've got a fan for life in me no matter what

cant wait for the cool

Play me for a stepping stone
Then, I landmine
-Wale-

  

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FC_ The_ Truth
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7. "8-ball's "lost" is technically "backpackerish-emo-gangsta shit""
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why'd you make it sound like Q-Tip forced you to speak on it...

ain't nobody care!

OKP's just fuckin with you Lu...

don't take it too personal!


-------------------------------
"Pushing My Rhymes like a Pimp Push a Hoe" (c)Camp Lo

"I'm working on myself, i could need some help, i'm trying, i'm trying...."

  

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Apollo Kid
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8. "hype's doing the superstar video? woooooo.."
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great to hear.

you seem a bit tense tho, dunny. chill.

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PhilWithers
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9. "fuck em! (c) Weezy"
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ActWon
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10. "...And is The Instrumental video ever being released?"
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KINGGS
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11. "cuz Tribe is backpack."
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Sat Oct-06-07 12:30 AM by KINGGS

  

          

but atleast you explained yourself. Even when it isn't really going to change alot of peoples minds on here. I will still listen to & support your music until you fall off no matter what.
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I'm focused maaaaaaann

  

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aroundRobinHoodsbarn
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12. "i'd bet you'd run from a street battle only togo talk slick on recoard"
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and i bet that nigga from kidz in the hall would eat you alive


but anyways i'd prolly hide behind q-tip too



naw really though its all good man i don't think your such a bad guy or nor am i really tryin to 'go in' on you and im not hatin alot of people esp artist talk out their ass but honestly i just really have no intrest in listening to the 'the cool'

dats right and ima be up in here for a minute
and i aint goin nowhere
and im using dat phone
and ima have my lil snacks and all dat wit me
and i dare a nigga go in my locka cause yo IM NOT PLAYIN WIT YALL NIGGAS MAN(c)

  

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universole
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13. "lollerskates."
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http://www.tumblr.com/blog/violinsinhiphop

  

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dan_ackryte
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14. "you aren't any more 'hiphop' than souljah boy, chingy, j-kwon..."
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and thats what people find so hard to believe.
i didnt grow up on half the shit i listen to from the 90s.
i just am a fan of good hiphop music.

you belong in an american apparell ad in vice magazine.
not in the source or xxl...

  

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FNF UP UP AND AWAY
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18. "RE: you aren't any more 'hiphop' than souljah boy, chingy, j-kwon..."
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maybe so...but until then I'll just be firmly planted on the covers of both of them...

  

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dan_ackryte
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19. "do you ever think about when you outta here?"
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Ice Kareem
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44. "nah you got sonned"
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pack your bags and go home, you embarassed yourself, with a nonsensical statement and then a reply to that sonnage that literally makes no sense.

  

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134. "^ ^ not very familiar with the KRS-ONE catalog"
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___

myspace.com/spiritequality

"the aim of an argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress" - Joseph Joubert, essayist, 1754-1824

  

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421. "^^^ down with the sound called BDP"
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< Live Mixshow - Thurs 11PM/EST >
https://twitch.tv/djchiefone

----Mixtape Archives-----
https://soundcloud.com/djchiefone

  

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PhilWithers
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168. "PWND"
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Majhik101
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15. "um... ALL THE MORE reason why you should make an effort"
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to remember the lyrics. i mean come one. dont make excuses bro.

  

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FNF UP UP AND AWAY
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16. "RE: um... ALL THE MORE reason why you should make an effort"
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THE COOL
DEC. 18TH


hahhahaha...all night and all day...btw I got a verse from "Scenario" as well...flawless!!!..."ER" was giving me problems throughout the entire rehearsal...so be it...





  

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Majhik101
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22. "no doubt i got the soulseek ready."
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17. "fuck all of that, superstar is directed by hype?!?"
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omg this shit is going to be EPIC!!!

I want the dungeons & dragons logo and the thimble from monoply to be in the widescreen top and bottom panels.

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21. "there are 3 (4) (5) people in tribe. it's not just Q Tip"
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ADD US!
www.myspace.com/rappersiknow
www.myspace.com/kayofthefoundation
www.myspace.com/theluvbugz713

<-- RSVP to the happy hour, free before 10, let's go out, hey we just met, happy hour, we must be tight, let's go out...

  

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dan_ackryte
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24. "oh shit! skeff anslem he gets props too..."
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melmag
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322. "hahah. (c) tip"
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445. "^ ^ never heard of jarobi or consequence?"
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i know people argue that consequence was never an 'official' member, but dude was all over beats rhymes & life, so he's worthy of a footnote. or as fwmj did, a parenthetical 3 = qtip, phife and ali, (4) = qtip phife ali and jarobi, (5) = qtip phife ali jarobi and consequence.

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23. "I think you guys broke him"
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25. "you don't have to explain yourself..."
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n/m

  

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26. "ok.. but i know u listened to it"
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27. "homies got the pitch forks and torches ready."
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28. "Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not.."
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It's the way that you dismissed a classic record that has touched millions of lives just to make a point. "I've never listened to Midnight and I don't care to". Personally, I thought it was immature and crass of you as an artist to talk that way about a record that changed my life, so I have a harder time taking your music seriously. You show no respect, so it's hard to respect you. And I repeat, it was the WAY you expressed yourself, as if to say "fuck Midnight Marauders, I don't need to hear that shit, you backpackers need to get over yourself". Handle your cool a little better, dude.

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30. "^skin thinner than rice paper"
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Do you agree with all the artists you listen to? If you're going to take a stand and not respect an hip hop artist because of something they said, you'd choose this? Get. A. Life. And stop crying because Lupe hurt your feelings.

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39. "RE: ^skin thinner than rice paper"
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>Do you agree with all the artists you listen to? If you're
>going to take a stand and not respect an hip hop artist
>because of something they said, you'd choose this? Get. A.
>Life. And stop crying because Lupe hurt your feelings.

Shut up.

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42. "No, seriously, you all need to shut the hell up."
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This pathetic whining about how a Lupe doesn't conform to your wishes makes me ashamed to frequent this site. Not just you, of course, you're just one of the whiniest.

But you can't get a pass for bullshit like this, you're the cat that gets the shit smacked out of him if he acts like this in public, don't come here so you can express whiny self.

You should be ashamed of the way you're acting, you're acting like a 6 year old.

You think I'm a Lupe stan? I'm not. I like his music, just not as much as I hate whiny internet cats crying about how Lupe hurt their feelings by not giving their precious enough attention. Grow some fucking skin, I can't believe you survive in the real world.

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45. "RE: No, seriously, you all need to shut the hell up."
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>This pathetic whining about how a Lupe doesn't conform to
>your wishes makes me ashamed to frequent this site. Not just
>you, of course, you're just one of the whiniest.
>
>But you can't get a pass for bullshit like this, you're the
>cat that gets the shit smacked out of him if he acts like this
>in public, don't come here so you can express whiny self.
>
>You should be ashamed of the way you're acting, you're acting
>like a 6 year old.
>
>You think I'm a Lupe stan? I'm not. I like his music, just
>not as much as I hate whiny internet cats crying about how
>Lupe hurt their feelings by not giving their precious enough
>attention. Grow some fucking skin, I can't believe you
>survive in the real world.


LOL. family, you're upset! chill, it's just my opinion, you're cussin, spittin and all. you're being very personal, so take your own advise.
you WON'T survive if you act this way towards strangers in your day-to-day life. but keep going, you're hilarious, Wrongthink.

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49. "lol you ARE right!"
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It's late here, and I've been working for around 14 hours on this thing that I've been working on, and visiting OKP has been my periodic momentary respite during this time. I've been getting a little short in the last few hours with what has seemed to me to be an overbearing hate on the boards lately over every little thing.

That last response was a little over the top, but I meant most of it. This sort of petty self-important hate/whining is one of the things that makes me embarassed about these boards, it really gets pretty bad here. This Lupe fiasco is just a microcosm of it, where everyone has their own idea about how an artist should be conforming to how he or she wishes the artist should be, and then whines because it isn't so. You want to see changes made make your own records dayum.

But lol on calling me on my crankiness, sorry if I was a little harsh.

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51. "RE: lol you ARE right!"
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>It's late here, and I've been working for around 14 hours on
>this thing that I've been working on, and visiting OKP has
>been my periodic momentary respite during this time. I've
>been getting a little short in the last few hours with what
>has seemed to me to be an overbearing hate on the boards
>lately over every little thing.
>
>That last response was a little over the top, but I meant most
>of it. This sort of petty self-important hate/whining is one
>of the things that makes me embarassed about these boards, it
>really gets pretty bad here. This Lupe fiasco is just a
>microcosm of it, where everyone has their own idea about how
>an artist should be conforming to how he or she wishes the
>artist should be, and then whines because it isn't so. You
>want to see changes made make your own records dayum.
>
>But lol on calling me on my crankiness, sorry if I was a
>little harsh.

lol, i appreciate you being diplomatic about it, that's love.
To clarify, I don't care if Lu hates Tribe, loves Tribe. I'm only giving Lu shit because I think he's talented. Too talented to try to be a badass about not liking a milestone '90s record. As a listener, I think he's so busy trying not to look irked by public opinion. In his efforts to appear inpenetrable, he just looks vulnerable anyway. In my opinion, he should drop the 'you can't figure me out' act and write phenomenal, honest music. My intentions are not those of your run-of-the-mill underground fundamentalist. I'm on a different page. I can appreciate where you're coming from, but that's not my bag.

Peace, man.

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61. "you said it better than i could have"
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As a listener, I think he's so busy trying not to
>look irked by public opinion. In his efforts to appear
>inpenetrable, he just looks vulnerable anyway. In my opinion,
>he should drop the 'you can't figure me out' act and write
>phenomenal, honest music. My intentions are not those of your
>run-of-the-mill underground fundamentalist. I'm on a different
>page. I can appreciate where you're coming from, but that's
>not my bag.

cosign all of that

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32. "RE: Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not.."
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sounds like they care to me...I hurt u like that?....cuz i dont like the same music u do?...are u serious?....

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33. "but you do like the same/similar music though, you're just being ornery"
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your biggest non mixtape songs are songs that fit in the vein of music tribe/the ummah did and have been songs made with folks that hold them in high regard.

irony and sarcasm as emotional armor is for pretentious teenagers.

you're bigger and better than that.

i been listening to tribe since 89. i still don't know what q tip says in the hook.

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46. "dude regardless of how his music sounds"
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hes telling you he doesnt listen to tribe... deal with it.

shit mm is one of my favorite albums of all time, and literally i can give 2 fucks if ANYONE thinks its dope but me, if someone does im happy to talk about it, if someone thinks it sucks id be happy to tell them why i disagree. if they dont wanna hear it... THEN ILL JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP

and i heard him say somewhere that snoops album was his favorite of the year... and also that he thought jeezys mixtape was the best tape of the year... so how the fuck do you know wat he listens to?!?

  

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50. "lower your voice, who you cussin at?"
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53. "sorry...."
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426. "For someone who many on OKP say is *nice* on the mic,"
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He's pretty damn wack. I ain't gonna judge what dude wants to listen to but its kinda suspect that he would be into the *gangsta* rap, but his music doesn't reflect that. I mean normally an artists music reflects who their influences were/are. Lupes music is reminiscent of the Native Tongue movement, which *according to Lupe* he obviously wasn't checking for, begging the question who DID influence his style.

He's just full of shit to me. The more he talks, the more he exposes himself

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60. "Tell it like it is."
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36. "RE: Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not.."
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you're not paying attention.

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74. "sarcasm isn't really helping you, but oh well"
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this is a new era. it pays to be diplomatic. why? b/c people don't have to buy your cd. and unlike the dubbing era, posting a link containing mp3s of your album can 'dub' a copy for dozens of people outside someone's circle of friends (globally, actually), said dozens of people who then can virally spread your work to dozens more.

right now, you're getting reverse word of mouth. discussion boards are where some of the most fervent 'word of mouth spreaders' are...these are the people who pull other folks' shirt sleeves and insist folks listen to little known artists or artists who may only have one song on the radio (say, kick push, for example). so, now you have a small circle of upset people who when your name comes up, they think 'oh yeah, the guy who came off like as a--hole at okayplayer'. shrug.

me personally? someone sent me your album. i was actually going to buy it, then this whole midnight marauders fiasco broke out. i watched how you handled yourself and you came off pretty badly. so, my impulse to buy turned to an impulse to shrug (see shrug above).

and my impulse to spread the word about your music evaporated too.

(insert shrug)

obviously you don't care about any of this though. good luck on your path.
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172. "AP-f'real tho..."
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it really wasn't all that. dude said 'never heard it, not particularly interested'. that's all. no need to get all 'well eff you too'; folks are acting like he said 'tribe is WACK and i refute their importance' when it was actually 'yeah they're important but i got other things lined up before i go listen to MM'

ps. i've never listened to Reflection Eternal's album, and i don't have any particular interest in going back to see what folks were geeked about. but i'm cool with that one song where mayne man clarified how to say his name...





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447. "I'm just dealing with how he came off interacting with his fans"
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People who liked his music were offering to send him MP3s of Midnight Marauders for free and dude was like 'I don't want to hear it'. Tribe is a well respected group, he's friends with their 'frontman', and a bunch of his fans were urging him to check it out. That was strike one, just on some 'wow, my fans want to give me something they'd like me to check out...f--k that' throw-a-gift-in-the-garbage steez. Strike two was when dude came back repeatedly on some 'nyah nyah nyah, I still ain't listened to it'. Strike three was when dude was invited by Q-Tip to honor ATCQ and this cat couldn't take the time to get the lyrics right. I mean, come on. Remembering your lyrics is MC Stage Performance Rule NUMBER ONE. Not remembering someone ELSE's lyrics during a TV taping of a tribute to them after being PERSONALLY ASKED by one of their members to perform is f--king ridiculous. It's unprofessional and it shows a lack of respect for his craft. And now he comes here AGAIN on some 'I f--ked up the lyrics AND WHAT?'.

How childish is that? He ethered himself...

The funny thing is, Tip asked him to perform. Spice 1 probably doesn't even know this guy is alive. SMH.
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462. "on that, i fully agree..."
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see, the 'no, i don't NEED to listen to Tribe' thing is ok- i saw a lot of beef with that first transaction and i have no problem with Lupe on that issue.

but after thinking about it, damn- he came back for what? cats that flamed him out are the LAST cats he needs to tell 'btw, Tip asked me to rep 'em and i still have not and don't NEED to listen to Tribe'.

and the worst part- it'd just have been a li'l 150post thread about his very very minor error if he would've stayed ghost on the issue instead of coming off like 'ha, Tip is asking me and i STILL ain't listening to his music!' ('specially when you factor in the 'ps- i fooked the lyrics up too, oh well')

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173. "ETHER!!!!!!!!!!!"
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>this is a new era. it pays to be diplomatic. why? b/c people
>don't have to buy your cd. and unlike the dubbing era, posting
>a link containing mp3s of your album can 'dub' a copy for
>dozens of people outside someone's circle of friends
>(globally, actually), said dozens of people who then can
>virally spread your work to dozens more.
>
>right now, you're getting reverse word of mouth. discussion
>boards are where some of the most fervent 'word of mouth
>spreaders' are...these are the people who pull other folks'
>shirt sleeves and insist folks listen to little known artists
>or artists who may only have one song on the radio (say, kick
>push, for example). so, now you have a small circle of upset
>people who when your name comes up, they think 'oh yeah, the
>guy who came off like as a--hole at okayplayer'. shrug.
>
>me personally? someone sent me your album. i was actually
>going to buy it, then this whole midnight marauders fiasco
>broke out. i watched how you handled yourself and you came off
>pretty badly. so, my impulse to buy turned to an impulse to
>shrug (see shrug above).
>
>and my impulse to spread the word about your music evaporated
>too.
>
>(insert shrug)
>
>obviously you don't care about any of this though. good luck
>on your path.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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38. "RE: Nobody Really Cares If You Listen or Not.."
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>It's the way that you dismissed a classic record that has
>touched millions of lives just to make a point. "I've never
>listened to Midnight and I don't care to". Personally, I
>thought it was immature and crass of you as an artist to talk
>that way about a record that changed my life, so I have a
>harder time taking your music seriously. You show no respect,
>so it's hard to respect you. And I repeat, it was the WAY you
>expressed yourself, as if to say "fuck Midnight Marauders, I
>don't need to hear that shit, you backpackers need to get over
>yourself". Handle your cool a little better, dude.


yo this cat is right though.....

  

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69. "this is silly."
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Artists have been making controversial statements about the accepted Canon(s) of any given artform or genre - far more controversial than any quote Lupe's put out there - for ages. Controversial statements about a tradition's classics have virtually built pop music. And, like Lupe's, they're usually statements that, if we were two unknown folks just having a conversation together, would hardly be regarded as inflammatory but rather as the sharing of opinion and something to poke fun at someone over... the genesis of a new recurring inside joke...

In all the heat over those various controversial statements, a lot of arguments have been made for why artists need to show respect to a given tradition, indeed immerse themselves in that given tradition.

But never... never... never has the excuse you've made above been used... which basically amounts to:

"You neglecting a record hurts my feelings."

Say what?!?!?!!?

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119. "I couldn't care less about hearing Midnight Marauders"
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I'm sure it's a nice album. But I just don't care to hear it.

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442. "RE: I couldn't care less about hearing Midnight Marauders"
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>I'm sure it's a nice album. But I just don't care to hear
>it.

And you know what, thats cool.

But if you're going to do a tribute for an artist, any artist and you don't even take the time to learn the words to their hit song off of principle, "I don't listen to (insert said artist here)" you're wack. Thats the lamest excuse ever.

Why the hell did he agree to do perform if he didn't know the lyrics, then?
To make a point?
To sound badass?
If so hes failed on both counts.

  

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383. "co-sign"
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>It's the way that you dismissed a classic record that has
>touched millions of lives just to make a point. "I've never
>listened to Midnight and I don't care to". Personally, I
>thought it was immature and crass of you as an artist to talk
>that way about a record that changed my life, so I have a
>harder time taking your music seriously. You show no respect,
>so it's hard to respect you. And I repeat, it was the WAY you
>expressed yourself, as if to say "fuck Midnight Marauders, I
>don't need to hear that shit, you backpackers need to get over
>yourself". Handle your cool a little better, dude.




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29. "ok, i never really cared that much that you didnt peep it, but"
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I dont understand why it seems like you so adamantly wont peep it. i mean its like 45 minuets of your life fam, you wont regret it. listen to it on a plane or something shit




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Starbaby Jones
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31. "Dude,"
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You're a grown ass man; you don't need to explain yourself, especially when you're living the dreams most of these cats are still chasing. That said, just like a singer studies the classics to become better at their craft, you could only benefit from at least giving tribe & co a listen.

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FNF UP UP AND AWAY
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34. "RE: Dude,"
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when it comes...until then...

Chris Brown, Soul Snatchers and Unkle dominate my attention

SWEET DREAMS OKP....for tomorrow me and Hype are scheduled to do battle in Long Beach

The Cool
Dec. 18th
INSHALLAH!!!

VH1 HHH Airs Monday I think...

and last but not least...

RAMADAN MUBARAK...MAY ALLAH (SWT) BLESS YOU & YOURS DURING THIS HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN!!!!

  

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moonsatellite
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37. "RE: Dude,"
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these games wont help you.
let go of the facade.
you're not fooling any of us.
be yourself.
i mean this only in the kindest way.
i'm saying this in all earnestness.
it's okay to be vulnerable.
relax.

don't dumb it down.

looking forward to the record.

Peace

... Charter member, but I don't post much. LAZERS.

  

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Ice Kareem
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47. "wtf are you talking about"
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seriously, why the fuck do you guys want him to come on hear and give u 18 paragraphs about tanya morgan.... hes being himself deal with it

  

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thafuture
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146. "Some ppl on here are crazy."
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Where else do we get musicians we appreciate come and talk to us about regular old shit?

And when they find out they don't have the same exact taste they do they go batshit crazy. Oh well.

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natlawdp
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174. "...flipping out over a grown man who doesn't eat salad"
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that's what this is like- cats are tripping cuz lupe said he ain't interested in eating spinach... 'WHAT- SPINACH CHANGED MY LIFE! EAT THE PLANTS SO YOU'LL KNOW THE NUTRITION SO MANY OF US CAME UP ON..."

this whole episode was worth a raised eyebrow- maybe a 'damn, really- eh, holla back when you finally make your way around to it'.

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191. "^ winner!"
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j.®
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490. "lol exactly lol"
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PhilWithers
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43. "you and hype shooting for superstar lu?"
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62. "sheesh"
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Sat Oct-06-07 08:26 AM by Young H

  

          

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universole
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40. "this thread delivers."
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http://www.tumblr.com/blog/violinsinhiphop

  

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41. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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Ice Kareem
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48. "Lupe's quick and efficient sonnage of okayplayer has...."
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regained my fandom.

congratz lu

"we won" - cops from super bad

  

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52. "FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCK TRIBE WITH A SICK DICK!!!!"
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I don't blame you.

I grew up on Tribe.

I never got to see them perform was either to young or too busy.

the fuckers was in wash.square like I was.

hey shit happens.

I say fuck them and move forward.

They are the past.This is the present.

Now look at them.

Fuck Tribe.

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Madvillain 626
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54. "I'm saying tho."
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The albums only 50 minutes..this guy talkin about I aint heard all of it. It aint Titanic, nigga. It aint a Harry Potter book, nigga. As an artist, I'm sure you're on planes a lot. During one of those flights, pop that bitch in. Not too hard.

Plus as much as you say you don't care, you bring up the incident in all of your posts, making it seem like you care a lot more than you're putting on.

P.S. I don't believe the 3 album thing. Any artist that really loves their craft, can't leave the game for too long. Too Short and Jigga said they were retiring too.

P.P.S. Stop selling drugs, nigga. lol

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70. "if the nigga doesnt want to hear it so what"
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damn...yall niggas
actin like he said "fuck G*D"
of somethin


and honest ly im not really a Lupe fan
but ya'll have been givin dude a hard
time about that shit....like really is it
THAT serious?

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55. "you should've got spike jonze instead"
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southphillyman
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56. "basically dawg. matter fact WHY would u wanna hear it now?"
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i never heard the shit either, i have heard a ATCQ greatest hits CD tho (i assume alot of MM was on it)
and the shit sounded dated as fuck
i think if u listen to it now, u gon be wondering why everybody is hype about the album
if u weren't there in the moment to hear it then fuck it dawg
that shit sound dated, the lyrics are wack and the production is aight but dated as well
u gotta realize that most the niggas on this site be trying fit in with each other , so if niggas say o MM is classic this or classic that
u gon have 18 yr old white bols on here running to walmart in iowa or where ever they live to cop and become an expert on the shit
for example see how quickly everybody on this site became experts on MF doom, Slum village....and even you
when previously NOBODY was talking bout that shit
FOH

it seems like u achieved your dreams without giving two shits about ATCQ so what do you owe them or yourself for checking that shit out now, all in the past tense
fuck that. the shit u DID listen to developed u and if u sastified wit that, then u cool
fuck when u think about it Q tip is more well known for vibrate thing then MM anyway
what does that tell u?
fuck that shit homes

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289. "this is possibly the most retarted post i've ever seen on here"
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and i've seen a bunch (and made some myself, haha)

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now the bitch is miserable
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417. "It's SPM...everything he type is pretty retarded."
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http://myspace.com/bambumusic

www.individualsole.com

http://www.individualsole.com/?p=5256

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300. "u funny as hell fam"
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u keep a nigga laughin' on here

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488. "awwready SPM in the building keepin it real for em"
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straight up

how much are these cats lives really lacking that their feelings are hurt cause Lu hasnt heard that album lol

its funny but sad in a sense that they are obsessing like this lol

im a dirty south brotha born in 84

i came up on gangsta as well and when I chose to seek out the qoute on qoute real shit

I never picked up any ATCQ either

maybe I will one day, I got nothing against them, especially if they did influence some of my favorite rappers, Outkast and Blackstar. but something in me has to motivate me to listen to an artist, not the urge to fit in or the desire to be deemed credible in the eyes of internet message boarders.


keep doin you Lu

and the guys in the post talkin shit will most likely continue doing them (talkin shit about everything that doesnt fit their mold or favorite style of hiphop)

forget these lames and their standardized test to be Emcees lol

and a good Emcee you definetly are homie



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jambone
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57. "Just stop posting here, fam..."
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n*ggas don't believe you no more

most n*ggas didn't believe you in the first place

sure you got your Stan ass n*ggas co-signing your every word, but they are few of them, and that group is getting smaller and smaller by the day on okp, by the way you keep burying yourself like this.

word of advice, be yourself and stop copping pleas. don't even post here anymore. if not, you'll keep ruining what little credibility you had to begin with.

who cares what the f*ck you listen to, who cares what the f*ck you like? obviously its a big deal to you to make sure people know. what part of the game is that, fam? that ain't real, homie. stop the lies, stop the facade. you need more people.


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89. "bottom line.. we would clown ANYONE who posted like lupe does..."
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..sayin they never heard MM and dont want to ...i think we just treated him like anyone else ..maybe we should go easy on rappers who post here ..but i dont think thats necessary ..we are all equals here ..if Evil D came on here and said "i never heard "critical beatdown and i never want to" ..he would get lit up..

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296. "Cosign alla dis shit"
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>..sayin they never heard MM and dont want to ...i think we
>just treated him like anyone else ..maybe we should go easy
>on rappers who post here ..but i dont think thats necessary
>..we are all equals here ..if Evil D came on here and said "i
>never heard "critical beatdown and i never want to" ..he
>would get lit up..




I'm tired of the "worst song I've ever heard" being something new every month.
-okp simpsycho


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ado420
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58. "But why do it at all? Q-Tip is big and all, but he can't be that scary"
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I'll leave all that mud slinging alone, but I gotta ask, if you couldn't get it down, why try at all?


Fuck this place, people in general will see this and think less of you. Shallow?? yes. But that's the way you play the game.

And if you forget your own lines during shows, maybe that's something to work on. Get the live show on lock.

  

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Young H
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59. "enough people have been jerks in this post already"
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so i'll just suffice to say there's no way you should've (could've?) missed the boat like you did

i guess you're just unaware, but MM *defined* a generation. I'm talking east, west, midwest, south, anyone who was age 13-18 and into hip-hop when that dropped was messing with it.

What's even crazier is that was their third album, there's really no reason niggas shouldnt have been on board after:

I left my wallet in el segundo
bonita applebaum
can i kick it
buddy remix (that video was everywhere and the song was on the radio)
Check The Rhime
Jazz (We Got)/Buggin Out (the video had both songs)
Scenario
Scenario Remix

(This also probably means you're not familiar with De La Soul's catalogue and "dont care to be". smh, your loss.)

36 Chambers came out the same day, Doggystyle came out 2 weeks later and it's Marauders that everyone is still crazy about.

like ?uestlove said, Tribe made it possible for Lupe Fiasco to have a career making left of center music.

So yeah, you come off a tad poser-ish with the "bad guy turned good who never listened to tribe and is now skating to save the world" image.

We're supposed to feel bad/jealous because you're shooting a video with Hype Williams?
"Boo, you know how many Puff meet with no panties?"

i'll stop because im almost being a jerk here

but yeah, *we're* your core audience (the type of people who post here), so marinate on that before you come through here stunting like that

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southphillyman
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80. "this is pure revisionist history here:"
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>36 Chambers came out the same day, Doggystyle came out 2 weeks
>later and it's Marauders that everyone is still crazy about.
>


who outside of this site and a few backpackers ranks MM over 36 chambers and doggystyle?
the fact that Lupe , me and alot of other ppl NEVER EVEN HEARD the album proves u wrong
who back then wasn't listening to 36 chambers or doggystyle?
u had "heads" and niggas on the corner blasting both those albums
shit even my DAD was rocking doggystyle in his old school continental for months
shit i had to just use wikipedia to even know what songs were on MM
world tour was aight for the chorus
and electric relaxation is best known for being the theme beat for the Wayans brothers show
just stop it
matter fact if u my age u prolly were in like 3rd-5th grade when that came out, so STOP LYING like u was rocking that shit back then fam
considering that to be true lol @ u naming OLDER tribe songs like u were already an estblished fam by the time MM came out
what were u in kindergarten/1st grade bobbing ur head to tribe?
FOH
i had to trick my parents into buying me 36 chambers and doggystyle
and nobody i knew was rocking MM back then and it wasn't getting much radio play if i remember correctly
i do remember world tour getting spins on rap city tho
but thats about it

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Young H
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82. "LOLz"
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>who outside of this site and a few backpackers ranks MM over
>36 chambers and doggystyle?

diehard wu heads would rank their debut over marauders, that's about it. my assertion is fair and balanced, you dont see me talking about "Beats Rhymes & Life was better than Only Built 4 Cuban Linx"

>the fact that Lupe , me and alot of other ppl NEVER EVEN HEARD
>the album proves u wrong

lupe is on some other shit
you *stay* going left field on here just because

>who back then wasn't listening to 36 chambers or doggystyle?
>u had "heads" and niggas on the corner blasting both those
>albums

people were bumping all 3.

>world tour was aight for the chorus

lolz

>and electric relaxation is best known for being the theme beat
>for the Wayans brothers show

LOLz, you know how many women go crazy over that song? i guess not. I saw them perform a year ago and trust me, the crowd wasnt going crazy because that was the wayans brothers song. Plus the show only had the song for season 1 (maybe season 2). The creators of the show chose to use that song because it was one of the illest joints out at the time, not because they were noodles. you're a funny dude.

>just stop it
>matter fact if u my age u prolly were in like 3rd-5th grade
>when that came out, so STOP LYING like u was rocking that shit
>back then fam

8th grade. my man bought the tape and made me a dub

>considering that to be true lol @ u naming OLDER tribe songs
>like u were already an estblished fam by the time MM came out

lolz, we had videos (Video Music Box/Rap City with the mayor Chris Thomas/Yo MTV Raps)

>what were u in kindergarten/1st grade bobbing ur head to
>tribe?

nah roxanne shante & the fat boys

my childhood was Kool DJ Red Alert every Friday and Saturday night though

>and nobody i knew was rocking MM back then and it wasn't
>getting much radio play if i remember correctly

lolz, im sure "Electric Relaxation" got as much radio spin as "Method Man"

Man listen, I went to sleep away camp at age 12 and met this kid from South Carolina who was the biggest Black Sheep fan in the world, he was my age rocking Das Efx's "Dead Serious", we would talk about the Scenario Remix and Pete Rock & CL Smooth

My final few points:
On the MTV show where people could meet and interview their favorite artists, a white kid who was around my age chose Tribe.

and while you havent heard it, there's an intro on J-Live's "The Best Part" where young kids are talking about Big Daddy Kane

i say all of this to say, I (we) grew up in the best time period for Hip-Hop music and some of us were lucky enough to be deep into it



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83. "i was about to say. most heads were bumping all three"
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regarding wu, doggystyle and mm

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southphillyman
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114. "when were u born....cause i think u lying"
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see i was alive back then
black
and in the hood
granted i was in philly and not nyc
but i seriously doubt it was a BIG difference between the two locations
to say that MM was as popular or getting as much spin as 36 chambers or doggystyle is pure revisitionist history
MM came out in 93 , avg. 8th grader is 13 if i'm correct
so u were born in 80?
u 26/27?
i thought u were like 22-23
even IF u were in 8th grade then i seriously doubt the avg. 8th grader was listening to tribe after the popularity of the chronic followed up by doggystyle
and even if u try to say niggas in nyc wasn't fucking wit west coast rap .....i'd think most niggas in nyc were on that wu/onyx tip by that point
as far as u witnessing women go crazy over electric relaxation,lol
let me guess. this was at the dilla tribute, foh
we know what kinda parties u go to fam
ain't no women going crazy over that shit
and show we how those two tribe records were BIG
cause i don't remember
but then again u the same dude that tried to act like reasonable doubt was big in it's day
stop stanning

i'm still shaking my head at u trying act like the avg. rap fan would rank MM over doggystyle or 36 chambers
OOO
nigga we both in philly we can easily take a sample
just spend a hour walking in barbershops or in the hood asking niggas how they rank them albums
and i bet HALF the niggas wouldnt even know what MM was
and it def. would come in 3rd

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138. "i saw tribe at love, the biggest club in dc and..."
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...trust, the women were going crazy when electric relaxation came on.

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175. "um....it was a tribe concert"
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captain obvious

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448. "according to you, women don't go crazy over electric relaxation"
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Mon Oct-08-07 01:45 PM by spirit

  

          

'as far as u witnessing women go crazy over electric relaxation,lol'

that's what you said. clearly there were easily a thousand women in that venue that disagree with you and prove this notion wrong by, well, going crazy over 'electric relaxation'. if you were correct, they would have been silent when electric relaxation came on and looked bored until they heard tip do 'vivrant thing'.

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179. "RE: i saw tribe at love, the biggest club in dc and..."
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dude is trippin saying tribe didnt matter...Im from LA so of course everyone was banging doggystyle, but after that most people had tribe...people forget that Low end theory sold between 1 and 1.5 million copies WHEN it came out, and Midnight Marauders sold 1.3 mil...by contrast Enter the 36 chambers didnt even go gold till years later...bottom line tribe was a real popular group in 93' 94' and Actually Tribe was the most mainstream out of all the native tongues cats...

...About Lupe forgetting the lyrics to electric relaxation--- WHO CARES!!

Rappers forget their own lyrics ALL the time...and its been a lot of cats on the hip hop honors shows that didnt know the words to the Honoree's songs they were performing too so dont just single out Lupe...Do You pimpin, and its perfectly understandable for some1 to grow up on Spice1 Nwa etc and comeout rapping like u do...

people nowadays think "underground" or "backpack" is a genre of rap now...And when I was growing up, Underground just meant you werent getting mainstream radioplay...so called Underground mixshows is where I first heard everything from early biggie and Nas, to UGK's Pocketful of stones and Scarface's the diary, to ras kass, Freestyle fellowship and souls of mischief...and ALL these artists and albums shaped how I rhyme today...

Fans need to stop assuming what the person behind the artist is like, because you will keep disapponting yourselves when you find out your so-called heroes dont listen to the same shit as u...




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389. "Nah fam, I'm 28, born in '79. I was in the 9th grade at Masterman"
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and all three of those albums were smash hits in the 'hood. MM was getting love on Power '99 (the Power 9 at 9 with Golden Boy) and Radioactive with Kosmic Kev, if I recall correctly.

  

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128. "damn dog, how young are you?"
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I thought you were only like two or three years younger than me (I'm 31).

You're making me feel old with this 3rd-grade-when-Maruaders-dropped shit.

Anyway-in terms of listening for me in 1993 in high school in South Jerz it went Doggystyle in first by a mile (I never had a car but that album was in every one I got into) and second Marauders (which I bought when it came out but didn't think it was as good as Low End Theory and still don't).

I didn't really get deep into the Wu until 1994 when Meth and Dirt were getting ready to drop solos......I had heard a couple of the singles and read the Source cover issue but I was just caught up in other shit at the time. They eventually went on to be my favorite rap group of all-time but in 1993 I was still holding out hope that PE wasn't done.

As for Lupe, to me he comes off as corny with these posts as he sounds on that 'Kick Push' song. And I've been here too long to check for him based off Lesson hype, so it's whatever.

I do think it's funny that after making multiple posts about it....the dude ends up doing a Tribe tribute performance, bungling the words and then ends up making this mad post.

I ain't gonna knock the dude in terms of real life, dude is able to support himself rapping for a living which is at least respectbale to some degree. But as far as this little corner of the internet goes? 100% Herb Status.

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169. "i was in 3rd Grade during Midnight Maurauders"
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well thats when i remember seing the video
on the box...I was in Atlantic City and the surrounding hoods
(plesantville, newtonville, etc)
and most of the cats in my neigboorhood
were on some Doggystyle and Wu

When i was in Foster Care my foster moms had
a son who was bumpin that snoop hard


what part of South Jerz were you in fam?

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181. "dawg u must be forgetting METHOD MAN and CREAM"
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WU were HUGE on the east coast
stop the revisionist history
either one of those singles were WAY bigger then anything on MM
as far as popularity AND radio spins
world tour and relaxation got mystery of chessboxing type buzz

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187. "RE: dawg u must be forgetting METHOD MAN and CREAM"
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mayne...wu didnt even go GOLD back then...and that was industry standard...tribe went PLATINUM with MM...when platinum wasnt easy to reach...plus how the hell do u have any idea what your "hood" was bumping when u was only 8 years old...NIGGA PLEASE!!

Award tour was BIG when it came out at the end of 93' and Electric relaxation carried that momentum into the summer when they dropped oh my god and rode that album till the end of 94'

man its so funny how twisted peoples perceptions are of history on here...

...and that still doesnt mean Lupe should be crucified for not hearing it...

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196. "according to the RIAA database they both didn't go platinum till"
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211. "RE: dawg u must be forgetting METHOD MAN and CREAM"
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>WU were HUGE on the east coast
>stop the revisionist history

what are you talking about? Does any of that apply to what I typed?

I asked how old you were, mentioned that I personally wasn't that big on the Wu until '94 and that in 1993 I was way more into Doggystyle than either of them.

I bought Tribe when it came out because I already had been listening to them for four years. The Wu were a whole new thing that I hadn't fully absorbed yet.

>either one of those singles were WAY bigger then anything on
>MM
>as far as popularity AND radio spins

like I said, I'd heard the Wu singles a bit (Yo!MTV Raps gave them a good amount of play but the only good rap they played in regular programming time was Snoop and Pac) but it's not like anything off either album was a true 'hit' in the traditional sense.

And I don't know what radio you're talking in Philly about unless it was college radio. Power 99 wasn't really playing any Wu in '93 or much decent hip-hop at all outside of occaisonally late-night mix shows.

In terms of chart success I'd say if anything the Tribe singles were bigger but Wu-Tang was more of a movement that had become unstoppable by the time I was leaving for my first year of college in the fall of '94. By the time Tical was dropping a month or two later I was fully on board.

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235. "how u think i heard of Wu genius"
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lil kids like 5 yr old was spelling out METHOD man
stop it
that shit was getting constant rotation on the major philly stations
and CREAM was huge as fuck

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270. "dawg, I don't know why you keep comin' at me like we're arguin' sports"
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I'm really not trying to disagree with you.

I gave you my own personal account, so there's no need to vehemently disagree about the shit.

p.s. Power 99 was not playin' that shit in 1993. peace.

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323. "nigga u white (i think) and from SJ"
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u ain't the authority on shit

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326. "LMAO @ 'i think""
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412. "RE: nigga u white (i think) and from SJ"
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>u ain't the authority on shit

your memories from fourth-grade in North or West Philly (can''t remember which) ain't law either. The difference between the two is: a) I was old enough to drive, & b) I'm not claiming my experience to be representative of anything but my own personal one.

And again, Philly radio was not playing Wu-Tang Clan in 1993.....no matter what you want to try to say.

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428. "Wu got mad play on 99"
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Cosmic Kev used to spin Wu all the time. I don't know what station you were listening too B. "Method Man" and "C.R.E.A.M." held down the number one spot on the 9 at 9 for awhile. Don't know how you missed that shit. Power 99 is the station that I first heard "I Used To Love H.E.R." on. You must not listened to the station after 10pm or something when they started quiet storming it.

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446. "THANK YOU"
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the fact that i ....actually heard of the wu songs proves the fact
i didn't really discover the tribe shit until i was older
CREAM was being played non stop
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453. "The only two jawns that Tribe had that got major burn on 99"
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were "Scenario" & "Electric Relaxation" ...If anything Low End Theory was probably there biggest album in Philly. I agree with your assessment that Wu probably got more play on the station at the time MM dropped but Tribe had a bigger and already established fan base in Philly that were checking for them just off spec.

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465. "RE: The only two jawns that Tribe had that got major burn on 99"
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>were "Scenario" & "Electric Relaxation" ...If anything Low
>End Theory was probably there biggest album in Philly. I agree
>with your assessment that Wu probably got more play on the
>station at the time MM dropped but Tribe had a bigger and
>already established fan base in Philly that were checking for
>them just off spec.

Low End Theory album is still their biggest and best album to me. I didn't even know people viewed Marauders as being an indisputed classic or compared it favorably with Low End Theory until shortly after getting here in '99.

And I don't remember hearing Tribe on Power much at all either in the year in question, maybe "Electric Relaxation" in mixshows at night.

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464. "in 1993?"
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I remember hearing the singles occaisonally as I mentioned but not during prime radio hours (basically the morning before school or during the drive-time afternoon/evening hours).

I don't really remember 'C.R.E.A.M.' blowing up as a single until '94 and about halfway through that year I was no longer in a Philly radio area so I can't speak on it.

Tribe was an established act so that album was one I personally checked for first, since I had pretty much been listening to them along with the Jungle Brothers & De La since the end of the eighties.

And Doggystyle, that album was just a monster.

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467. "You're corrcet about "C.R.E.A.M.""
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I was talking in general about the airplay of the two albums and the singles from Enter The 36 Chambers got more airplay than MM did on 99. And 99 didn't really play Hip-Hop during the daytime hours. You'd have to listen from 6-10pm in order to really hear them spin Hip-Hop. So yeah...if you weren't listening then you probably did miss hearing all that stuff.

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148. "Doggystyle was def the most popular album out of the three..."
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hands down but Wu ain't hit that hard outside of the northeast until later. i know you're in Philly so maybe Wu was larger than Tribe at the time but in Atlanta they ain't hit hard until the "Can It Be All So Simple" video dropped. MM was definitely gettin' more play than Wu down this way. On the real, most niggas down this way don't even fuck wit Wu like that.

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149. "EVERYONE ranks MM over doggystyle & 36chambers..."
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159. "not really n/m"
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160. "i do not."
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180. "RE: EVERYME ranks MM over doggystyle & 36chambers..."
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fixed.


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240. "everyone YOU know maybe"
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63. "I give you 16 dollars you give me 16 tracks... (c) 2pac"
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64. "Rosenberg's take on it"
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65. "LMAO @ ya'll pussies getting ya panties mad at Lupe"
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How you gonna be mad
when the nigga who made the music ya'll cocksniggling AINT mad?
fuck is the science in that? lol

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66. "Lupe your music is amazing regardless....."
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of who you listened to coming up.....

You give these clowns a voice when you feed into their negativity......

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67. "double post"
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68. "you actually make it worse every time you talk about it"
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ps: I'm shaking my head at you not having enough respect for your craft to REHEARSE the song until you (gasp!) KNOW THE WORDS BEFORE YOU GO ON STAGE.

wtf?

come on, that's EMCEEING 101....know the lyrics before you perform...

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131. "pretty much, dude's mad at himself & making another emo post about it"
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and he managed to work in a good share of name-dropping in there too......and not in the 'Quest shares some interesting inside info' with us sense. Instead it's the 'I know Q-Tip and y'all don't even if you jock his music so fuck you' shit.

This dude sounds like a lame to me.

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404. "CO-SIGN ON ALL THIS SHIT."
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I really feel like Lupe needs a publicist to tell him when to SHUT THE FUCK UP. Dude is a clown, he's posting here like he really got a point to make, but just continues to ether himself.

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184. "and here we are agree-ish"
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i can excuse a stage error, BUT- this was a tribute; if i'ma blast jessica simpson for effin' up '9 to 5' at the Dolly Parton Kennedy Center Honors jont, lupe gotta get toasted up over blarglefigglin' up ER...

i'm surprised they ain't do another take- it's not live TV, and i think it's important to get it right... any such honoree deserves that respect.


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71. "i dont need an explination of this"
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i need an explination on the cool. is it gonna be a concept album?? if so, i want some details lu, superstar is gonna be HUGE with hype on the video

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72. "Seriously though, if you get around to it, it's a good album , and"
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I don't know why everyone is so hype about this. Only the "OKP Community" knows that Lupe never heard the album. Most people watching on tv or viewing the awards in person will not care.


Good premiere lp Lupe. Looking forward to the next.

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73. "I'm confused here..."
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I thought F&L was a great album, and consider myself to be a fan of your music, but does that mean I should act as if there is nothing wrong with you not caring about Tribe's legacy and yet performing at an event designed to celebrate it? That seems to be what a lot of other people in this thread are doing.

  

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110. "Co-sign!"
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>I thought F&L was a great album, and consider myself to be a
>fan of your music, but does that mean I should act as if there
>is nothing wrong with you not caring about Tribe's legacy and
>yet performing at an event designed to celebrate it? That
>seems to be what a lot of other people in this thread are
>doing.
>
Don't discredit the Tribe legacy with the fact you had a bad performance. That's poor form.

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424. "co-signage!"
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75. "Any Nigga That Grew Up Listening To Spice 1 and Too Short"
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Is cool with me.


If I named all the "East Coast Classic" Albums that I aint heard, and aint tryna hear, it would take me all day.


Just make good music, joe.


And some of ya'll niggas sound like girls. What Lupe eat don't make ya'll sh*t, do it?

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76. "come on, man"
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dude never heard "God Lives Through", "Lyrics To Go", "Midnight", "Sucka Nigga" etc.

that's laughable

i mean, im not mad (compared to when he first made that statement a while back)

but i find great humor in it

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79. "Truthfully, I find it as odd, cuz its one of my top 5 favorite albums"
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But I'm from his part of the country so I completely understand.

When I moved to East Coast and would go to parties in Philly and New York and the DJ would play all these song I had never heard off in my life. I would be standing there like..."Ya'll niggas dance to this? What is this? Tell that nigga to put quit playing and put on some Ying Yang Twins"

Of course if you come out and say you aint heard emcee such and such, your credibility gets challenged. Which is why so many kats on here and people in general rush to go make sure they have the Hip Hop Checklist of Albums that prove you are down. Now your opinion is valid cuz you can pull out your copy of Black Moon and say "Here it is!! I HAVE IT!! I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!

I aint seen Krush Groove.
I aint seen Beat Street
I aint seen Breakin
I aint got no Slick Rick
I aint got no Jungle Brothers

That stuff was IRRELEVANT where I grew up at.

And truthfully, I have no sympthy when kats can come on here and rip E-40 to shreads, never having heard "In A Major Way" or "The Mailman" and don't care to. But then wanna police which album you have to have heard. Last time I checked, Too Short and NWA were massively more influential and impactful than Tribe and its not really close. Thats what dude grew up listening to.

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85. "im not hard on people like that"
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>I aint seen Krush Groove.

i own it, but havent seen it

>I aint seen Beat Street
>I aint seen Breakin

me neither

>I aint got no Slick Rick

I bought the art of storytelling (his last album) and his debut in 98. besides the Warren G "Behind Bars" remix, im not up on much else

>I aint got no Jungle Brothers

heard their debut in the last few years and wasnt blown away

>That stuff was IRRELEVANT where I grew up at.

i can dig that, but dude is acting like Tribe wasnt universal.

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90. "RE: Truthfully, I find it as odd, cuz its one of my top 5 favorite album..."
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>But I'm from his part of the country so I completely
>understand.
>
>When I moved to East Coast and would go to parties in Philly
>and New York and the DJ would play all these song I had never
>heard off in my life. I would be standing there like..."Ya'll
>niggas dance to this? What is this? Tell that nigga to put
>quit playing and put on some Ying Yang Twins"
>
>Of course if you come out and say you aint heard emcee such
>and such, your credibility gets challenged. Which is why so
>many kats on here and people in general rush to go make sure
>they have the Hip Hop Checklist of Albums that prove you are
>down. Now your opinion is valid cuz you can pull out your copy
>of Black Moon and say "Here it is!! I HAVE IT!! I KNOW WHAT
>I'M TALKING ABOUT!!
>
>I aint seen Krush Groove.
>I aint seen Beat Street
>I aint seen Breakin
>I aint got no Slick Rick
>I aint got no Jungle Brothers
>
>That stuff was IRRELEVANT where I grew up at.

actually WHERE u grew up is irrelevant to HIP HOP... tuff pill to swallow for alot of u cats... but its the truth..

and dont give me any e40 BS.. that cat was a punchline for jokes all thru the early 90s...

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92. "RE: Truthfully, I find it as odd, cuz its one of my top 5 favorite album..."
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>actually WHERE u grew up is irrelevant to HIP HOP... tuff
>pill to swallow for alot of u cats... but its the truth..
>
>and dont give me any e40 BS.. that cat was a punchline for
>jokes all thru the early 90s...
>


Since this is the case, ya'll do you. We will do us, make our own music for our own irrelevant areas of the country. Get our paper on our own...

And we'll just see how it all works out...aight?

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353. "You really area stuid wigger."
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470. "Hi pete!!"
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222. "unless your like 12 what are you listening to hiphop for?"
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>I aint seen Krush Groove.
>I aint seen Beat Street
>I aint seen Breakin
>I aint got no Slick Rick
>I aint got no Jungle Brothers

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229. "Two false statements here:"
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>
>I aint seen Krush Groove.
>I aint seen Beat Street
>I aint seen Breakin
>I aint got no Slick Rick
>I aint got no Jungle Brothers
>
>That stuff was IRRELEVANT where I grew up at.

That stuff was relevant as fuck, because for most, movies like Krush Groove and Beat Street were their first interactions with hip-hop...just like Colors spread LA gang culture across the world.

You may not have fucked with it, but I guarantee some people in your area did, or there wouldn't be hip hop there.

I grew up and live right up the road from the Chi, and I got plenny friends from there, and I know these things existed there and people fucked with em.

But I also know how South and West Coast heavy the Midwest is, so I know where you're coming from there too.

>Last time I checked, Too Short and NWA were massively more >influential and impactful than Tribe and its not really close. >Thats what dude grew up listening to.

Iono when and where you checked, but that's blatantly false...Tribe's tree is equal to or bigger than Too Short and NWA's trees. From Tribe you got Busta, The Roots, Nas, Mobb Deep, Mos, Dilla, Little Brother, 'Ye, Pharrell, etc...all kinds of groups and artists that Tribe fucked with directly or were influenced by them.

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125. "hell yeah!"
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Spice-1 first three albums is classic. I don't even need to explain the greatness of $hort from 88-96

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77. "I HAD ELECTRIC RELAXATION BOOTLEG BEFORE THE SHIT"
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EVEN DROPPED...I SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP THERE PERFORMING THAT SHIT!!!!

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87. "^^^failed to register a laugh"
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106. "^^^^will be first in line to get the Cool^^^^"
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78. "stop being so sensitive...."
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all you had to say was "I fucked up. My bad." I don't understand why you needed the rest. You performed badly, it has little to do with growing up on Tribe. If anyone else, other than Tribe, had messed up while they were performing that song they would have been criticized too. Shit happens. Keep it moving.

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84. "it's one thing to beat a dead horse, but to dig up a buried carcass"
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is another thing all together

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96. "'On some CSI//cold case...solve a rape from '68'-shit lol"
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294. "ha. i can see some 98 year old woman suing her employer"
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for sexually harassing her in 1934
she wins millions and his heirs have to pay

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86. "Who thinks that was a good look for Q-Tip?"
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266. "he should have gotten common or talib to take lupes place"
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at least they will have heard some of tribes music. then again, talib would probably pull a lupe these days and talk about how he was only listening to poison clan back in 91 lol.

  

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88. "why is this guy so sensitive, hey Lu you still movin Heroin?"
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91. "I dont think the problem is that you didnt listen to it as a kid"
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That's understandable.

I didn't get into hip hop at all until 2002 (I'm 24).

But that doesn't mean that I didn't go back and check out earlier stuff just so I could have a better understanding of Hip Hop as a historical art form.

To ME it looks like you're not listening to all of MM because we want you to, and that's where all this arguing back and forth comes from.

Like all the stars are alligned for you to listen (Quest hooked you up with a copy, you know at least know what MM is, you probably have a small amount of free time considering your busy schedule) and you still don't check it out?

People on here (well some of them, some of them just like to argue with a celebrity) genuinely want you to be aware of great music but it seems like you keep trying to put a square toy in a round hole in terms of not checking it out, and then publicly saying you arent checking it out...

Had it been me, I would have not addressed the issue on here once I saw that it pissed people off, but maybe that's why I'm not famous, some comprises aren't worth it I guess...

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93. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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dont be mad....they're just mad Q-tip didnt ask any of them to perform it

  

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94. "*shrug"
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people on okp are sensitive.

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95. "MC Eiht >>>>>>>>>>> Spice-1...sorry to post-jack"
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99. "Geeeah."
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Murdershow was phenomenal tho.

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101. "TROOF"
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Gheah

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113. "Iono about that fam, the East Bay Gangsta had some shit...."
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"You post like you look your barber in the eyes when he lines you up."

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118. "Didn't Eiht show him out on numerous collabs tho?"
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It's hard to show out Eiht on collabs. Remember WC and the MAAD Circles' "You Don't Work, You Can't Eat"? MC Eiht >>>>> Rakim on that song lol

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121. "They was about even on Murda Show..."
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Eiht is the shit, but Spiggity S-P-I-C-E was that dude IMO...

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122. "Spice 1 and Redman destroyed that track on We Come Strapped tho..."
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"Nuthin But The Gangsta"

Thats actually how I became a Redman fan. Off of that cameo verse.

  

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127. "agreed"
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straight checkn'em, music to driveby and we come strapped got Spice's catalog but Spice first three albums were dope. just not as dope as eiht

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186. "still jackin'- 415 '41Fivin=classic most slept on by 'heads'"
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i still got the tape...


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476. "I disagree. Spice 1's styles are nuts. Plus the Spice cameo on WCS"
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the WCS song with spice and redman on it, spice gets busy. i like eiht's voice a lot, but i always dug the styles spice 1 flips. also, spice 1's cameo on 'genocide & juice' was dope as well. santa rita weekend is the song title.

spice is pretty underrated, if rated at all.
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97. "But you gotta respect the irony/outrage"
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I'm a huge Tribe Fan and i think Lupe just didn't/doesn't realize the magnitude of love/devotion folks have for tribe. And it now seems as if its like a personal boycott, to note pump MM. But i'm not upset or outraged that Lupe got a spot in the tribute.

Would I have liked Pusha T who has repped Tribe in plenty interviews, for sure. But Lupe has his lane and he's a branch of the Tribe tree although once removed.

I'm just saying he had to know the backlash was coming and although i don't feel like he had to say shit, you gotta respect his cojones.

and i cant rep that chris brown album. but whatever bong bong

God is my Bodyguard!

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jambone
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103. "Its not that...its not even about Tribe really...its his blatant disresp..."
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...like he thinks its cute and funny to make fun of the fact that he aint too interested in hearing Midnight Maruders.

These n*ggas paved the way for him, and for him to make light and have blatant disregard for the pioneers of the game, that paved the way for his black ass, is trifling to say the least.

it just goes to show, the n*gga aint got no foundation.

all he had to say is that he aint heard midnigh maruders, it just not his cup of tea. even though that might sound strange, folks would accept it. but it was the manner in which he said it and carried it like that album and them was insignificant...like he got better things to do...thats what made the Lupe believers into non-believers....and made Lupe look like a clown he more than likely is. He is dissing the main reason for his existence in the rap game, on a site (okayplayer) where most of his small fanbase is. A fanbase that also reveres that album, the music, and the genre Lupe has barely thrived in.

you don't sh*t where you eat.

Lupe forgot that princple, because he was so gassed on all the "love" he got from okp. He was feeling himself too much, and slipped up. And now n*ggas are starting to see him for who he is and what he is not.



>I'm a huge Tribe Fan and i think Lupe just didn't/doesn't
>realize the magnitude of love/devotion folks have for tribe.
>And it now seems as if its like a personal boycott, to note
>pump MM. But i'm not upset or outraged that Lupe got a spot in
>the tribute.
>
>Would I have liked Pusha T who has repped Tribe in plenty
>interviews, for sure. But Lupe has his lane and he's a branch
>of the Tribe tree although once removed.
>
>I'm just saying he had to know the backlash was coming and
>although i don't feel like he had to say shit, you gotta
>respect his cojones.
>
>and i cant rep that chris brown album. but whatever bong bong

<--- we've got bush!

  

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117. "yeah that all makes sense"
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i was alluding to a recent article where Pusha T reps tribe hard. And i think you are on point about how Lupe seem to revel in his ignorance.

And the whole "i grew up on gangsta rap" is kinda hilarious to me. Just because when MM came out, nobody paid attention to categories. You pumped the Snoop album and Midnight Marauders. I'm a lil older but we just played what was hot where i'm from.

but i'm not even hating, he just seems to be playing this on some hyper hubris shit.

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120. "its all about respect, homie..."
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>i was alluding to a recent article where Pusha T reps tribe
>hard. And i think you are on point about how Lupe seem to
>revel in his ignorance.
>

Pusha T understands you give respect where respect is due. And really, Pusha T's style is different from Tribe's. Yet, he still gives it up.


>And the whole "i grew up on gangsta rap" is kinda hilarious to
>me. Just because when MM came out, nobody paid attention to
>categories. You pumped the Snoop album and Midnight Marauders.
>I'm a lil older but we just played what was hot where i'm
>from.
>

Yep, why did Snoop Dogg do a remake of Lodi Dodi and paying an homage to Slick Rick? He was from Long Beach, CA. lol

>but i'm not even hating, he just seems to be playing this on
>some hyper hubris shit.

yep

<--- we've got bush!

  

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129. "very true"
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it's like a nigguh studying for his masters in african-american history history talkin bout "nah i can't fuck with john henrik clarke. no, i ain't read any of his work and i don't want to". or studying physics and not knowing shit about einstien. i guess the saying is correct "nigger love not to know".

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104. "In the meantime, I hope this is someone who hacked Lupe's account"
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His responses are on some Laura Winslow bullshit.

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Phreak
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98. "wait a second....so Q-Tip is your friend....."
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yet you haven't even bothered to listen to his album?

  

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176. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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the irony ladies and gentlemen.

  

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299. "Came here to post this!"
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If you grow up on it or not is one thing, but if he's your friend, its common courtesy to at least listen to the album. I'd be mad if my friends didn't listen to my shit!

"Used to be the new kid 'till I grew into that new shit/
Emperors that hear the tunes admit that they are nudists..."

  

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325. "out of curiosity, ever read the book Killobyte?"
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-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  

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384. "STOP MAKING SENSE!!!"
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I mean damn. How hard is that?

  

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100. "i mean...not even a "my bad"?"
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lol, woulda been a lot easier, homey.

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102. "You're a lame..."
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Lupe is the worst. I'm from the Chi and I'm ashamed that he reps it.

__________________________

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Whut up, whut up. Stay lookin fly in my coupe 2 door with a baby seat in back.

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pei
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105. "this thread is not nearly as entertaining"
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as the ATCQ classic lines post a couple days ago

  

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Hitokiri
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107. "Ya'll are some funny style ass cats around here sometimes."
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Lupe hasn't heard Midnight Marauders in it's entirety. Oh fucking well. Get the fuck over yourselves. Man ya'll are being sensitive. What's gonna happen when ya'll find out that Blu has never heard Death Certificate and that Thought never made it past track 2 on Straight Outta Compton. How mad are ya'll gonna be when the news breaks that Andre 3000 never heard Illadelph Halflife? Who's world is gonna be destroyed when it's revealved that Lil' Wayne never checked out Aquemini and that The Clipse never listened to The Chronic?

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135. "none of your wack analogies work though"
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since Andre and Lil' Wayne aren't on here beating their chests about how they don't listen to this or that.

Dude is on no less than five threads he created himself on this matter. And then he played himself on a major awards show by performing and not knowing the words.

C'mon, that's funny. I personally couldn't care less who this dude listens to.......but this 'saga' that he keeps feeding himself into is pretty amusing to me and makes him look like a clown.

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

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198. "So the fact that he posts here makes him "different" than those others?"
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I wouldn't say he beats his chest about anything around here. Saying he hasn't listened to an album and doesn't have a desire to listen to it, is far from beating his chest.

From my recollection, Lupe mentioned this in one thread which consequently blew the fuck up and spawned numerous other threads. This one is a response to a thread that came up yesterday. Lupe hasn't come around just to shout out the fact that he hasn't listened to this album. (Ok once, but that was just a thread title that would get people to read it).

I don't think Lupe looks like a clown, I think all these cats with their panties in bunches look like clowns for caring so much about what albums a grown man has and hasn't listened to.

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214. "he played himself with this post, I have no desire to debate it further"
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because personally I could give a shit about Lupe Fiasco as an MC or as a person.

this whole post is basically him being mad he fucked up his own performance on VH1 and for comedic reasons it ties back into wack statements he made here earlier.

this dude tries too hard.

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

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178. "FOH."
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>Lupe hasn't heard Midnight Marauders in it's entirety. Oh
>fucking well. Get the fuck over yourselves. Man ya'll are
>being sensitive. What's gonna happen when ya'll find out that
>Blu has never heard Death Certificate and that Thought never
>made it past track 2 on Straight Outta Compton. How mad are
>ya'll gonna be when the news breaks that Andre 3000 never
>heard Illadelph Halflife? Who's world is gonna be destroyed
>when it's revealved that Lil' Wayne never checked out Aquemini
>and that The Clipse never listened to The Chronic?

did u even read that shit before hitting the post button?

  

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199. "Something not make sense to you, sweetie?"
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I think it makes sense. If Black Though mentioned in a thread that he's never made it past track 2 on "Straight Outta Compton" people on here would turn their back on him quicker than it takes an ice cube to melt in the Sahara, despite the fact that he's turned out quality music for years now. I'm willing to bet that you'd be one of them.

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285. "No. because Thought doesn't rhyme about poppn slugs n pimpn bidges"
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259. "Blu and Death Certificate? Huh?!"
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My copy of Below the Heavens doesn't have any gangsta-related material whatsoever. Where'd u get yours?

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Heinz
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108. "when did not knowing classics make you less of an emcee?"
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i mean for someone that doesnt know the words to a classic and yall wildin out about it right now, he still made a better album than a lot of the emcees that know Tribe records forwards and backwards..i dont get why you even care, its not his music directly influenced by Tribe or anyone like that (and he admits who he grew up on) nor does it reflect it, so why do you expect him to know everything about Tribe just because YOU do...and yall are going on with this "you're fake lupe, you're a poser" word?..because being in the pigeonhole of "real hiphop" genre is where the money is at? lol nah. its not. so why would he fake to be in that category? certainly wasn't for the money and last time i checked u cant buy things with a currency called "respect" lol. losers.

stop with the convincing him to listen to the album lol i agree great album. amazing even. but is it gonna make or break your day if he listens to the album, yall stressing it like its a life decision ON YOUR PART lol calm down. music is great. but its not that serious.

  

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109. "I read a few of the replies & I gotta say"
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I really appreciate Lu's honesty
because as I keep saying (and okp keeps lying)
when you're a kid you listen to what's around you
if you're 12 and everyone's listening to Tribe,YOU'RE LISTENING TO TRIBE

Common said his damn self he was influenced by Too Short CUZ that's what niggaz in Chicago listened to.

I mean most of the niggaz in this thread are NY-centric (or act like they from NY) but really need to realize that in cities like Chicago, St Louis, Gary, Milwaukke, 'Nap THE MASSES were listening to hood shit

<----- The reason your team's players jump into the stands after a TD

  

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111. "That is true, the East Coast never really popped in the Midwest..."
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The Midwest has always been heavy South and West Coast...Niggas in Milwaukee didn't get up on Jay-Z til Vol. 2, cats used to tell me to turn Reasonable Doubt off and put some No Limit or Suave House on.

With that being said, Lupe is just flexin that new young nigga mentality, iono if he even realizes that everything he's tryna do, Com's already done (as far as tryna play both sides across the middle, being conscious and still reppin the hood)

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115. "basically i'm from the east coast and in 93 wasn't NONE of my peers"
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checking for tribe
niggas need to stop lying
at that age what ever is played on the radio is ur favorite shit
and for me it was wu

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291. "How old were you in '93 again? n/m"
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Ill Jux
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132. "hood shit? wtf, tribe is from the hood, as well as most ny acts"
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the thing is, ny nigguhz don't really think of new york hip hop as "new york hip hop", especially in the 80's and early 90's. nigguhz ain't like too short and e-40 cuz they were wack mc's, and yes we heard them, their videos played on mtv and on video music box(ralph played everyone's video). i like spice 1, as well as other mofo's, and nwa was poppin in ny as well.

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290. "probably not a good idea to use Common in defense of Lupe.."
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i mean, Com made "i used to love h.e.r.", pretty much negates any and all attempts to paint the entire chicago as not being influenced by eastcoast hip hop

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418. "Shoo only Com? What about friggin No ID"
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and Dug Infinite? Chicago producers who pretty much had an NY-esque flavored sound/production and still do till this day?

I dunno what type of hood music argument folk are using here in this thing when its clear as day what's wrong here..

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112. "the hate and dick riding is this post is obscene"
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fall back everyone, it's not that serious.



To all you Lupe lovers, how do you actually feel that your hero fucked up a simple enough song?
Live performances mean a lot to me, and when I see someone fall on their face, that doesn't sit well with me.

How about you?

  

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Ill Jux
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116. "u are an idiot, "backpack" and "gangster" rap? nigger please"
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and what makes music gangster? that term was created by the white media to describe nwa's brand of hip hop, but they were much more than just nigger nonsense and "gangster" shit.

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123. "dog....you went a li'l kweli in this post"
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Hip-hop could never be a way of life / It doesn't teach you how to raise a kid or treat a wife -- Q-Tip

  

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124. "stop explaining yourself to people fam"
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you don't owe niggas a explanation for what you do. you're just making yourself look bad by coming on here defending your actions homie.

Now Playing:
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De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
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Mafamaticks
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126. "Y'all niggas funny"
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y'all put him in a box and mad cause he ain't fit in it. 'Cause he make a certain type of music he has to fulfill prerequisites that y'all set up for him?. FOH.

It's a lot of classic albums that niggas ain't heard. He listened to what he listened to just like y'all did. But becasue he ain't listen to what you listened to it's a problem? Really?

On some real shit, niggas should have recommended the album and kept it moving. But nope. Y'all fucking niggas on some, "I'll tell you what you should do." FOH.

Niggas ain't address anything in his post. Y'all just wanna be angry together.

And half of y'all niggas in here going in 'cause ?uest wanted him to listen to it.

  

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147. "COSIGN IN SIZE 72 FONT."
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130. "Had a spark when you started"
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but now you’re just garbage

  

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133. "Someone is gon have to explain this Tribe Paved the Way stuff for me"
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Cuz I just don't see it.

When I heard Lupe, I heard Nas, I heard Jay, I heard Geto Boys.

Tribe is about as far down on the list as MC Brains.


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ATLiens79
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136. "Geto Boys fam?"
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explain that one because nothing about lupe reminds me of the geto boys homie.

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De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
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140. "Storytellin....Political Content..."
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When I hear Steady Mobbin' I hear Willie D.

The Diamonds Remix he did, I heard Geto Boys.

"I'm Just Stating The Facts...F#%K Bush"

Hurt Me Soul...
American Terrorist...
He Say, She Say...

The storytelling, the somberness, the honesty and at times the internal conflict...that where I hear Geto Boys.




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jambone
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142. "you forgot voices too..."
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>When I hear Steady Mobbin' I hear Willie D.
>
>The Diamonds Remix he did, I heard Geto Boys.
>
>"I'm Just Stating The Facts...F#%K Bush"
>
>Hurt Me Soul...
>American Terrorist...
>He Say, She Say...
>
>The storytelling, the somberness, the honesty and at times the
>internal conflict...that where I hear Geto Boys.
>
>

<--- we've got bush!

  

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DJ Contact
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144. "I would say those are more Com type songs than anything."
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American Terrorist would fall under some Nas type shit...I just don't see no Geto Boys tho.

"You post like you look your barber in the eyes when he lines you up."

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466. "Fam, I've listened to the Geto Boys for over 15 years and..."
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...I don't hear it. At all. I would never think of comparing Lupe to the Geto Boys. And Willie D? They sound nothing alike, rap nothing alike...I don't hear it at all.

I do think that Lupe doesn't sound like Tribe either, but saying Lupe sounds like The Geto Boys is absurd to me. I hear more Jay (flow-wise) in Lupe than anything. I don't hear an ounce of Spice 1 in his flow.
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137. "Where you get Geto Boys outta Lupe?"
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But that ghetto, but still intelligent, fun and ecclectic type shit Lupe likes to be on was pioneered by cats like Com, Tribe, De La, etc.

He's way more Stakes Is High/Midnight Maruders than he is any of the shit he name-checked hismelf growing up on....which is why its so odd that he would buck that shit. I hear no NWA, Spice-1 or Eightball and MJG in his style...

The people who fuck with him the hardest fuck with him because he reminds them of those people, most of the mainstream crowd he's tryna look cool for prolly just thinks he's a herb.

"You post like you look your barber in the eyes when he lines you up."

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139. "I get more of a Skee-Lo vibe than anything n/m"
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.

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

https://twitter.com/nostrabombus

https://www.facebook.com/matt.koelling.96

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162. "LMFAO!"
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Now Playing:
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De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
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153. "Pharrell was the first person i heard bring up Tribe, after that its bee..."
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downhill

I heard Jay/Nas, not Tribe.

  

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141. "WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW this post is crazy"
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weirdscience
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143. "Wanna Leak "Wake up in Tokyo"? thanks"
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do it Lupe

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145. "yo, lupe"
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ppl do not understand the atmosphere in chicago, nor the music scene..
disregard the atcq dickriders and k.i.m.
ppl don't need to have the same influences, they're just lupe dickriders and want something to identify with to get closer..on some "me too" shyt.

  

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150. "The Low End Theory is a better album anyway"
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lol @ the outrage in this post.

Get over it guys.

  

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155. "It's not simply about the fact that people love the album..."
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...so all this talk about "sensitivity" is odd to me. I am not offended that Lupe hasn't heard one of my favourite albums. Instead, the real issue here, in my opinion, is that dude is activley choosing not to listen to it.

I'd dare say that if it wasn't for the likes of Tribe, there would be much less, if any demand for artists like Lupe Fiasco in 2007. For him to act like it's not worthwhile to listen to Midnight Marauders is shitty in my opinion.

  

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Clash Sic
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161. "I know people who love hip-hop and refuse to listen to..."
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old school R&B, even tho hip-hop is built upon samples from old school R&B records.

There are people who refuse to listen to anything mainstream nowadays.

Who cares? We're all like different things.

If Lupe doesn't want to listen to Tribe that's on him.

  

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443. "COSIZZLE!"
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n/m

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151. "lolz."
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this guy is taking pride in not having taken 45 minutes to listen to one of the best albums in the same genre he works in. that's like a filmmaker boasting about not having seen "citizen kane" because they watched "the neverending story" when they were a kid. that said, this whole thing is about lupe's concern that people will associate him with the "soft" native tongues aesthetic -- thus his proclamations of loving gangster shit and willful avoidance of a universally-acclaimed album made by someone he considers a friend.

  

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163. "*bingo*"
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>this guy is taking pride in not having taken 45 minutes to
>listen to one of the best albums in the same genre he works
>in. that's like a filmmaker boasting about not having seen
>"citizen kane" because they watched "the neverending story"
>when they were a kid. that said, this whole thing is about
>lupe's concern that people will associate him with the "soft"
>native tongues aesthetic -- thus his proclamations of loving
>gangster shit and willful avoidance of a universally-acclaimed
>album made by someone he considers a friend.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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177. "RE: lolz."
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yep...

all these "conscious" mc's all wanna claim to be different and enlightened yet they run from that title any chance they get and namedrop snoop or dre to try and catch some sales. another lost nigga in the industry, but not surprising. even funnier considering he manages to make the most gayest and dungeon & dragon-ish music videos i've ever seen.

keep dissing tribe and reppin eightball and mjg, just know that nobody is gonna be buying your album because of that statement so it's only to your detriment. just hope your dickriders on here buy your shit or else your gonna be doing your gay little hand gestures in $50 videos on koch next year.

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195. "^^thinks OKPs buy albums"
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L.O.L.

Final Fantasy 7 + Hip Hop =
"Black Materia."

http://random.bandcamp.com/album/black-materia-final-fantasy-vii

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236. "RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums"
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not really, i don't care if they do or not. lupe should care though since half of his fanbase resides on this board...

and you need to stop fuckin around and hook me up with an version of "ringman" that doesn't switch to a gay ass reggaetone-esque beat halfway through.

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243. "RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums"
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nah, half of his fanbase doesnt reside on this board, IMO. maybe half his downloaders. He'll be aight, he just gotta put the shovel down at some point.


wow, all i had to do is challenge someones opinion to get opinions on MY music? sweet.

FYI: 2 consecutive posts, you've used the word 'gay' to describe someone's music.


I'll be back.

Final Fantasy 7 + Hip Hop =
"Black Materia."

http://random.bandcamp.com/album/black-materia-final-fantasy-vii

http://www.megaran.com

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268. "RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums"
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>nah, half of his fanbase doesnt reside on this board, IMO.
>maybe half his downloaders. He'll be aight, he just gotta put
>the shovel down at some point.

maybe but it doesn't matter dude will be on koch soon enough.

>wow, all i had to do is challenge someones opinion to get
>opinions on MY music? sweet.

you challenging me really doesn't matter, if i woulda saw your avy and sig before i woulda have told you about that "ringman" cut earlier. i been playing that mega ran lp the last couple weeks and there's 3 cuts i really like but i'm pissed that "ringman" is dope as fuck for like a minute and change, then the beat switches and it all goes downhill. hook me up with a version without the beat change.

>FYI: 2 consecutive posts, you've used the word 'gay' to
>describe someone's music.

and your point is? gay is pretty much an all-purpose insult in my vocabulary. it has very little to do with actual homosexuality, just another way to call someone/something wack.

>I'll be back.

hopefully with that full version of "ringman" minus the wack beat change.

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408. "RE: ^^thinks OKPs buy albums"
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>hopefully with that full version of "ringman" minus the wack
>beat change.
>

checks, money orders, visa debits, and cash is accepted for all requests.

  

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264. "agreed"
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318. "right?"
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fuck you.

  

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344. "aaaand the thread can now be closed. excellent points."
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152. "I can't blame you for not listening.."
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Cause I know for damned sure when people try to force me to watch, listen or read something.. I just have to be a dick and refuse. Not because I don't want to but because of how they came across.

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157. "I'm the same way."
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Just now started watching Sopranos.

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167. "yep."
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154. "to quote Andre Benjamin..."
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"I grew up on booty shake we did not know no better thang" - The LEGENDARY Andre 3000

it doesnt matter what Lupe grew up listening to, how many people he's killed, or how many tricks he can do with a skateboard.

let's focus on the fact that he makes great music. and that he's better than you.

and you know how he really honors Tribe? by making GREAT MUSIC and not embarrassing this genre they helped build.

there are just as many Tribe fans that don't know Snoop as Snoop fans that don't know Tribe. And if you think "snoop fans are simple", then why is Lupe where he is and you where you are?

and half this board knows even less about tribe than Lupe does which is so funny. and it DOESNT fucking matter.

if you make good music, i dont care if you're from Pluto and listened to country your whole life. if you step on stage or in the studio and can make jams, then i want you here more than the ambitionless, faceless nothing that has Tribe's liner notes memorized...and isn't making music.

fuck the haters.

  

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156. "Let's not."
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>let's focus on the fact that he makes great music. and that
>he's better than you.

How about we seperate the man from the music for once, and not give him a pass just because we like him as an artist? Food & Liquor was one of my favourite albums of last year, but it doesn't mean that I should have to justify him not wanting to listen to a genre defining album because of it.

Some of the shameless dickriding in this thread is laughable.

  

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158. "lol. you took that so personal."
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>>let's focus on the fact that he makes great music. and that
>>he's better than you.

first. he IS better than you.

second...

>How about we seperate the man from the music for once

that's the problem here. the only thing that should be focused on here IS the music. you wanna talk about "the man" and dickriding.

you guys wanna turn this into some mediatakeout.com shit and turn into into some drama. omg omg. omg <3

Him not wanting to listen to MM is good. Him listening to it and pretending to like it would be bad. that's fake. but you guys seem to want him to go with option B.

if he doesnt wanna listen to it, it's because he doesnt wanna listen to it.

  

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171. "RE: lol."
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>
>Him not wanting to listen to MM is good. Him listening to it
>and pretending to like it would be bad. that's fake. but you
>guys seem to want him to go with option B.
>


how is that good?

dats right and ima be up in here for a minute
and i aint goin nowhere
and im using dat phone
and ima have my lil snacks and all dat wit me
and i dare a nigga go in my locka cause yo IM NOT PLAYIN WIT YALL NIGGAS MAN(c)

  

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Cuntmatic
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182. "As I said..."
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I like his music. I thought Food & Liquor was quality. Pretend that I had some sort of issue with Lupe in the first place and that the "he's better than you" statement is what I was specifically responding to if you want though. My issue with a lot of this thread is actually that people are trying to say everyone who disagrees with Lupe here has a problem with him generally.

Seperating the man from the music doesn't mean being on some gossip, mediatakeout bullshit. It's saying that you should judge the characteristics and opinions of an artist without the bias of your view on their music. Lupe's music is primarily the thing that makes up what I think of him, because I do not know him as a person, but this is a messageboard in which people state opinions, and I disagree with his in this instance.

Also, where does the assumption that he would "pretend to like it" come from? I'm not saying that wouldn't be the case, but if you consider the recognition of a classic Hip-Hop album to be people just agreeing that it is outstanding to fit in, then you've really missed the point.

  

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328. "If someone is better than you.."
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Then it's only natural to expect more from him, and hold him to a high standard


http://www.illdoctrine.com - where hip-hop vlogs?

  

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434. "If he was asked to honor ATCQ"
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The LEAST he could do is listen to they shit. I mean thats just common sense right?!?

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164. "great music?!!?!"
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let's not get ahead of ourselves homie. the nigga lupe got some cool songs but his album was straight snoozefest '06

Now Playing:
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
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165. "RE: great music?!!?!"
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i think he's one of those guys that earn the artist title. i'm not even the biggest lupe fan in the world, but i appreciate his approach. he took his time with food & liquor. he took more than ten minutes with it and tried to create an ALBUM. that flowed, that had a mood. that's an artist and in contrast to the average soundclick/myspace music guys that make up a large portion of the population, i'd say great music. he works hard and seems to put a lot of thought into it and i think that should be appreciated. thats all.

  

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166. "lmao"
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>i think he's one of those guys that earn the artist title.
>i'm not even the biggest lupe fan in the world, but i
>appreciate his approach. he took his time with food & liquor.
>he took more than ten minutes with it and tried to create an
>ALBUM. that flowed, that had a mood. that's an artist and in
>contrast to the average soundclick/myspace music guys that
>make up a large portion of the population, i'd say great
>music. he works hard and seems to put a lot of thought into it
>and i think that should be appreciated. thats all.

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170. "NO ONE CALLED IT BACKPACK RAP BACK THEN."
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even now, tribe isnt backpack rap

backpack rap only really starting existing in the late 90s

  

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183. "RE: NO ONE CALLED IT BACKPACK RAP BACK THEN."
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exactly...what the fuck is backpack rap?!? wzup with people trying to sub-categorize rap like its rock music or something...that the dumb ass reason why MTV and the grammy have different awards for best RAP and best HIP HOP...its all rap music people...

underground
west coast
east coast
down south
crunk
hyphy
gangsta rap
conscious rap

all this shit is rap music, they are not SO different that these things need their own genre...its the same music, just from different parts of the country and different backgrounds...

thats what they did with rock when it was falling off...u had grunge, acid rock, alternative, indie, glam rock, etc...all these different sub genres that didnt mean shit except one artist's interpretation of music was different from the next.



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185. "No One Called It Backpack Rap...they called it "That Weird Sh*t""
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"You listen to that weird sh#t"

or that New York sh#t

"Nigga I aint tryna listen to that weird sh#t...i'm tryna listen to that pimp sh#t, or that gangsta sh#t"


The category may not have been there, but the sentiment sure was...

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188. "i can't even roll with this, man"
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>"You listen to that weird sh#t"
>
>or that New York sh#t
>
>"Nigga I aint tryna listen to that weird sh#t...i'm tryna
>listen to that pimp sh#t, or that gangsta sh#t"
>
>
>The category may not have been there, but the sentiment sure
>was...


Geezie,

I can't begin to tell you how much shit niggas in DC gave me for liking the Hip Hop I did in the 80s and 90s....and you know what's ironic? Much of it is the shit they call "classic" now -- the Geto Boys, Face, PE and all that. I used to get clowned. Even my love of all things Spice 1, Too Short, Forty Water and, yes, even MC Shy-D got CLOWNT TOUGHLY in them mean SE and PG County streets...then something happened and then all these bamma ass niggas was on it.

So I can see how niggas could miss some music because you listen to mostly what your boys did and I ain't have no whole bunch of friends that was into Hip Hop..GoGo, yes...Hip Hop, no. I was putting niggas on though so maybe I had something to do with them changing their minds...who knows? What I won't do is this...be mad at a nigga for liking what he like. I still hate that niggas consider me a "NYC NIGGA" for liking what I did but never shittin' on me when I was rocking DJ Quik loud as fuck or EA-SKI or Above The Law....it's like city niggas love they shit to be "HOOD" to get some bullshit ass street love. Fuck them niggas. I liked De La Soul as much as I liked Esham and shit.

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192. "RE: i can't even roll with this, man"
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>>"You listen to that weird sh#t"
>>
>>or that New York sh#t
>>
>>"Nigga I aint tryna listen to that weird sh#t...i'm tryna
>>listen to that pimp sh#t, or that gangsta sh#t"
>>
>>
>>The category may not have been there, but the sentiment sure
>>was...
>
>
>Geezie,
>
>I can't begin to tell you how much shit niggas in DC gave me
>for liking the Hip Hop I did in the 80s and 90s....and you
>know what's ironic? Much of it is the shit they call "classic"
>now -- the Geto Boys, Face, PE and all that. I used to get
>clowned. Even my love of all things Spice 1, Too Short, Forty
>Water and, yes, even MC Shy-D got CLOWNT TOUGHLY in them mean
>SE and PG County streets...then something happened and then
>all these bamma ass niggas was on it.
>
>So I can see how niggas could miss some music because you
>listen to mostly what your boys did and I ain't have no whole
>bunch of friends that was into Hip Hop..GoGo, yes...Hip Hop,
>no. I was putting niggas on though so maybe I had something to
>do with them changing their minds...who knows? What I won't do
>is this...be mad at a nigga for liking what he like. I still
>hate that niggas consider me a "NYC NIGGA" for liking what I
>did but never shittin' on me when I was rocking DJ Quik loud
>as fuck or EA-SKI or Above The Law....it's like city niggas
>love they shit to be "HOOD" to get some bullshit ass street
>love. Fuck them niggas. I liked De La Soul as much as I liked
>Esham and shit.

PREACH!!!

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216. "Oh I feel you..."
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That was me back when Wu Tang hit...

For me, listening to Wu Tang was like listening to a movie on cassette...i was totally captured in Wu-Tang Mania.

I liked E-40...my niggaz liked E-40
I liked Bone Thugs...my Niggaz like Bone Thugs
I liked Eazy E....my niggaz liked Eazy E
I liked Wu Tang...my niggaz thought it was some weird Kung Fu sh#t.
I liked Tribe....my niggaz thought it was some over your head African ish with African Art on the album cover.



It wasn't even explictly regional. It was, but it wasnt the main focus. Their reasoning was...they want ish that bumps in the ride.

They want Short Dogg. They want UGK. They want E-40 and the Click. They want The Chronic and Doggystyle.

Wu-Tang...Tribe...De La Soul...that gets NO BUMP in the ride.

The distinction wasn't as much regional as it was stylistic.

Our lifestyle wasn't hoping the train and spitting in cyphers and tagging walls of buildings. Our lifestyle was (and i'm 13 at this time so this aint ME, but my community), crusin up and down the strip at all hours of the night. Who got the baddest whip so they can hang out the window hollering at broads, smoking, drinking...

You get the point.

Part of it was that for the most part, I was never popular so I never had no image to conform to, or crowd to follow when i was growing up. I just did me.

  

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478. "I don't think you heard Wise....he was saying that..."
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...rap as a whole got clowned when he came up. I somehow think you're younger than Wise though.

and back in new orleans, where i grew up, local rap predominated at the parties, regardless of whatever anyone else was doing in other cities.

you think this stopped me from listening to rap from other cities?

i mean, if lu said he was listening to chicago house or something and didn't even pay attention to hip-hop until 'it was written' in 96, it would make more sense. dude name-checking spice 1, whose career was basically headed downhill by 96? his story is all thrown off. hell, he doesn't even mention crucial conflict or do or die or anybody. he was into gangsta sh!t but he doesn't mention the gangsta rap from his own city? nothing dude posts makes sense to me. LOL.

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189. "RE: No One Called It Backpack Rap...they called it "That Weird Sh*t""
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nah mayne, niggas wasnt doin that out here...they was saying "u listen to some wack shit" or "you listening to some dope shit"

niggas wasnt on the pimpin shit till snoop and Short started popularizing it...and nigga Im from LA so you know we banged a gang of gangsta shit...but Tribe and other East Coast cats such as redman, wu, epmd, and others got HELLA love out here in los angeles...noone was saying I dont fuck with that weird shit... if anything only shit niggas might say is that shit aint gangsta or westcoast...

I didnt even hear niggas commenting on "weird shit" till prodigy's interlude talkin bout keith murray on the infamous...

Everybody in rap fucked with each other back in the day...nowadays people are so regionalized that they are programmed to only bang something from your region...thats whats wrong with hip hop today...

so u mustve been from somewhere w/o a hip hop scene to make a dumb ass statement like that...

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190. "When I got to college, I found this out n/m"
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>Everybody in rap fucked with each other back in the
>day...nowadays people are so regionalized that they are
>programmed to only bang something from your region...thats
>whats wrong with hip hop today...
>

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217. "Welcome To The Midwest....(see post #216)"
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>so u mustve been from somewhere w/o a hip hop scene to make a
>dumb ass statement like that...
>

  

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193. "cosign posts 93, 103, 151, 155, etc."
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Nobody cares that he hasnt heard it yet. Its that:
-he doesnt care to hear it
-attempted to peform a song from it to HONOR Tribe and fumbles
-and brags that Q-Tip is his friend. (why brag when youre not checking for his music anyway?)

If he didnt hear it or if he did and didnt like it the backlash wouldnt have happened. Since he makes a big deal about not wanting to hear MM, it is the reason that people are upset with him.

I grew up on mostly golden era east coast hip hop. Recently I have been trying to go back and check out "classic" albums from other regions. I think its necessary if you have a love for the music.

oh well... *shrugs*

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194. "Knowing or not knowing Tribe isn't this 'issue'"
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If Lupe would've rocked the shit and not fumbled, this post wouldn't exist. Because, by all accounts, he fumbled, he mad and who he mad at? Some nameless, faceless online characters.

So what, you don't know who Tribe's material? Cookies from El Segundo are in the mail. You knew EXACTLY where this post was going before you posted it. Regardless of whether this is how you felt, this is a childish ass tantrum akin to Stephanie Tanner. Somehow, I managed to give to you more credit that *this* shit. Damn

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197. "You Took An Huge "L." On Theze Boardz When You Firzt Mentioned It"
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.....and now you tryin' to save yourzelf frum da pit you done made, pleaze Lupe juz get off thiz subject forever, I'm still waitin' on you ta make an album dat I can probably nod my head to wit some replay value.

Peace & Pizza Greaze!

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200. "Fuck what you do or don't listen to..."
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just keep making good music.

  

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201. "since Ahmir and none of y/our OG's are willing to say this, I will:"
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You fuckin up, my nig. Straight up and down.

What's even more amazing is the same cats on this site defending your arrogance and ignorance on this topic are the same ones who would be ready to FLIP if the statements you made about MM were said by a Webbie, Plies, or Soulja Boy.

I purposely remained silent during Fiascogate just to see how it all would play out and to see how my man would gain control of the situation, but with you forgetting the lyrics to a classic song from a classic group on national television while paying tribute to them, the 2nd plane has officially hit the tower.

You're my homeboy and a colleague that I hold in high regard. I'm a fan of your work. Even moreso, we've chopped it up on numerous occasions so you know that everything I say is coming from a place of respect and concern:

>"I DID NOT GROW UP ON ATCQ!!!..."

>THE LITTLE GHETTO KID FROM THE MEAN STREETS OF THE WESTSIDE OF
>CHICAGO GREW UP ON SPICE 1, 8-BALL & MJG, NWA AND SNOOP
>DOGG...

That's fine, but your music and more importantly your image leans more towards Native Tongues than killaman-killaman-saykillamankillaman-wit me glock. If it walks and talks like a duck, most people would call it one. You can't blame OKP's or anybody else for putting you inside a box that you were willing to sit comfortably in and benefit from (see: Diamonds, American Terrorist, Daydreaming, I Gotcha).

>I WASNT A BACKPACKER RAP ENTHUSIAST!!!...I NEVER CLAIMED TO
>BE...I GREW UP ON GANGSTA RAP!!!

I have several problems with the term 'backpacker rap,' but okay. However, if you truly grew up on gangsta shit and it was a big influence on you, you should do more Pop Pop's and less Dumb It Down's to help your listeners understand that.

>HAVE I LISTENED TO MM IN ITS ENTIRETY?...NO!!!...(Sorry
>Quest)...

This statement is nothing but pure arrogance. I wonder how your friend Q-Tip would feel about you 'having no interest' in hearing what many consider to be his landmark album....especially after you forgot his lyrics during a tribute and your only defense is, "hey, shit happens......but I still ain't listening to the album tho..."

>GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND YOUR SACRED COWS...SOME OF YA'LL
>MAKE ME SICK...

I'm an artist so I understand how we all go through our times of arrogance and flat out niggotry, but seriously, now is not the time for this. You had a fuck up and there's really no one to blame but yourself.

>AND FYI WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY OFFERED TO ME I TURNED IT DOWN
>BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO BE HONORING THEM
>BECAUSE WHILE I WAS FULLY AWARE OF THEIR IMPACT IN HIP-HOP I
>WASNT REALLY AWARE OF THEIR MUSIC LIKE THAT...BUT GUESS WHO
>WANTED ME TO BE APART OF IT....HMMMM...HOW
>ABOUT...Q-TIP!!!...
>
>SO NOW ARE YOU GOING TO HATE ON "ATCQ" BECAUSE THEY WANTED
>SOMEBODY WHO DIDNT REALLY KNOW THERE MUSIC TO HONOR THEM BY
>COVERING SOME OF THEIR MUSIC?...THINK ON THAT OKP'S

Tip was covering his ass.

More than anything, it seems to me that Tip knew you were one of the only available celebrities that would translate to VH1's audience and do his legacy justice.

Kanye is in the stratosphere right now. The LB's, Tanya's, Kidz, and Strange Fruit's of the world are nobodies on a mainstream level. You and Pharrell are the only celebrities who are (seemingly?) cut from Tribe's cloth and would make sense in the context of the show.

>P.S. I FORGET THE WORDS TO SOME OF MY OWN SONGS ON STAGE...HEY
>IT HAPPENS...

Normally cats would be forgiving of a slip up, but when that slip-up was preceded by several months of bragging about how 'I've never heard the album and really don't care to,' well......you do the math.

Just some words of concern, fam.

Best of luck with "The Cool" and I hope the remix comes out dope.

Your Homie, Peer, and Fan,
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202. "RE: since Ahmir and none of y/our OG's are willing to say this, I will:"
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218. "lol"
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^ Exactly!!!!!

  

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232. "hilarious reply"
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I just pee'd myself a little dude. I can't believe you broke out the Thriller movie scene. That's brilliant homie. That's brilliant.

  

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That Thriller gif is fucking hilarious too.

  

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*sprinkle coke on this post make it drug related*
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310. "*cackles*"
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345. "LMAOOOO that is hilarious."
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372. "bwahahaha"
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you need to ask somebody about me. you some Newbie with a few posts. fool you coming at me with some turkey and Bread and you ain't no Miracle Whip to make a sandwich and you ain't no conversation to hang. (c) mistermaxxx

  

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394. "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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PSN ID - dirty_MF_bucks

  

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459. "RE: since Ahmir and none of y/our OG's are willing to say this, I will:"
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made my month...

  

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203. "AAAAAAANNNNNND CUT!!!!!!!!!!!"
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204. "ITS GETTIN HOT IN HURRR(C)"
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dats right and ima be up in here for a minute
and i aint goin nowhere
and im using dat phone
and ima have my lil snacks and all dat wit me
and i dare a nigga go in my locka cause yo IM NOT PLAYIN WIT YALL NIGGAS MAN(c)

  

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205. "thats such bullshit man, seriously"
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and you wonder why you're never gonna blow?

you have no understanding of this shit, im sorry its true.

you think that people who arent defending tribe would be defending jeezy, plies etc.???

wat a stupid remark to make, seriously, I love jayz, i love jada, i love nas....... If lupe said he'd never listened to them, I wouldnt chastise him, because HE CAN RAP BETTER THAN ME.

so watever he did it worked.

And as for this bullshit about him having to act a certain way or listen to certain music, because of the "box" his music puts him into thats complete bullshit...

seriously bullshit, one of the stupidest things ive read all day.

YOU'RE the one who's being ridiculous trying to force him to like (not even respect but LIKE) artists you think his stuff fits in with.

He doesnt deal with it.

He listens to gangster rap, and he makes his kind of rap... thats all there is to it.

And if your pissed of how he wasnt more apologetic for not listening to MM, well sorry its not his place to comfort your feelings or prop up your idols.

And for what its worth, MM is a top 5 album for me.

Yea, you got sonned.

  

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206. "Sonned? LMAO"
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Sat Oct-06-07 08:01 PM by Cuntmatic

  

          

>wat a stupid remark to make, seriously, I love jayz, i love
>jada, i love nas....... If lupe said he'd never listened to
>them, I wouldnt chastise him, because HE CAN RAP BETTER THAN
>ME.

Pardon me I had to laugh at that (c) Hov


Yet another poster in this thread that doesn't understand the difference between having not heard Midnight Marauders and refusing to do so like it's not worthwhile.

  

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419. "RE: Sonned? LMAO"
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>Yet another poster in this thread that doesn't understand the
>difference between having not heard Midnight Marauders and
>refusing to do so like it's not worthwhile.
>
>

exactly!

i had to register just to agree with this damn comment. not having heard something isn't a crime or even to be looked down upon. but having been exposed to something beautiful and then not bothering with it at all...

why the hell are we making art in the first place if it's just gonna be brushed off? i'm not lupe. but if i were asked by a legend in the game to do a tribute despite my unfamiliarity... i would GET FAMILIAR real quick. otherwise i would give a definitive "no" to q-tip.

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449. "yo, your album is bangin"
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460. "RE: yo, your album is bangin"
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thank you.

i just posted a message in general discussion thanking everyone for the love they have shown!

without you we can't keep making this music. if you dig it, tell your mans and his mans and ...

also, if you go to 100dbs.com you can sign up for the mailing list for future free and non-free ish. but back on topic...

lupe is a dope rapper. but this is truly embarrassing... quest, PLEASE dub him a copy of MM if he won't buy one.

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210. "Why does it matter"
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If he raps better than you?

www.thefizix.com

  

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212. "lmao @ calling your own "sonning""
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fam you didn't say jack shit

  

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215. "RE: lmao @ calling your own "sonning""
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> Yea, you got sonned.

Lmao. Classic, mang.

________________________________________________________________

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Lil' Wayne: I know he a G ’cause I tried to holler at his girlfriend and she said no.

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220. "'HE RAPS BETTER THAN ME!'"
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who's really sonned in this situation?

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221. "Tay raps better than you, too, so ..."
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Does that mean you can't judge him, either?

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239. "RE: thats such bullshit man, seriously"
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are you for real man? i hope you're the president of lupe's online street team or something cause you're on his dick so hard that not even a decent set of pliers could remove you.

you are really coming off as the true embodiment of a "stan" right now, it's pretty pathetic. i hope you're just a young kid going through that phase in life where you look to pretentious rappers for knowledge cause if you're grown and acting like this then you truly lost in life and need to reexamine whether or not it's worth living.

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247. "arent u part of the white rappers entourage?"
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hallelujah holla back???

lol @ your life

the fuck outta here b

i dont even like lupe, like that but i hate the prententiousness of okps

dont mind this dude yall hes not a rapper hes an entity. LMAO

  

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361. "RE: arent u part of the white rappers entourage?"
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white rappers entourage?

i have no idea what you're talking about kid. you must be confused. you also must have me confused with these other kids cause to me OKP is merely a place to talk hip-hop once in awhile with the very few ppl who actually know their shit on here and clown and school lost niggas like you.

keep getting mad over nothing and making horrid generalizations though, it suits lost children such as yourself.

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Gotta give props for that.

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207. "Basically"
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>You fuckin up, my nig. Straight up and down.
>
>What's even more amazing is the same cats on this site
>defending your arrogance and ignorance on this topic are the
>same ones who would be ready to FLIP if the statements you
>made about MM were said by a Webbie, Plies, or Soulja Boy.
>
>I purposely remained silent during Fiascogate just to see how
>it all would play out and to see how my man would gain control
>of the situation, but with you forgetting the lyrics to a
>classic song from a classic group on national television while
>paying tribute to them, the 2nd plane has officially hit the
>tower.
>
>You're my homeboy and a colleague that I hold in high regard.
>I'm a fan of your work. Even moreso, we've chopped it up on
>numerous occasions so you know that everything I say is coming
>from a place of respect and concern:
>
>>"I DID NOT GROW UP ON ATCQ!!!..."
>
>>THE LITTLE GHETTO KID FROM THE MEAN STREETS OF THE WESTSIDE
>OF
>>CHICAGO GREW UP ON SPICE 1, 8-BALL & MJG, NWA AND SNOOP
>>DOGG...
>
>That's fine, but your music and more importantly your image
>leans more towards Native Tongues than
>killaman-killaman-saykillamankillaman-wit me glock. If it
>walks and talks like a duck, most people would call it one.
>You can't blame OKP's or anybody else for putting you inside a
>box that you were willing to sit comfortably in and benefit
>from (see: Diamonds, American Terrorist, Daydreaming, I
>Gotcha).
>
>>I WASNT A BACKPACKER RAP ENTHUSIAST!!!...I NEVER CLAIMED TO
>>BE...I GREW UP ON GANGSTA RAP!!!
>
>I have several problems with the term 'backpacker rap,' but
>okay. However, if you truly grew up on gangsta shit and it
>was a big influence on you, you should do more Pop Pop's and
>less Dumb It Down's to help your listeners understand that.
>
>>HAVE I LISTENED TO MM IN ITS ENTIRETY?...NO!!!...(Sorry
>>Quest)...
>
>This statement is nothing but pure arrogance. I wonder how
>your friend Q-Tip would feel about you 'having no interest' in
>hearing what many consider to be his landmark
>album....especially after you forgot his lyrics during a
>tribute and your only defense is, "hey, shit happens......but
>I still ain't listening to the album tho..."
>
>>GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND YOUR SACRED COWS...SOME OF
>YA'LL
>>MAKE ME SICK...
>
>I'm an artist so I understand how we all go through our times
>of arrogance and flat out niggotry, but seriously, now is not
>the time for this. You had a fuck up and there's really no
>one to blame but yourself.
>
>>AND FYI WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY OFFERED TO ME I TURNED IT DOWN
>>BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO BE HONORING
>THEM
>>BECAUSE WHILE I WAS FULLY AWARE OF THEIR IMPACT IN HIP-HOP I
>>WASNT REALLY AWARE OF THEIR MUSIC LIKE THAT...BUT GUESS WHO
>>WANTED ME TO BE APART OF IT....HMMMM...HOW
>>ABOUT...Q-TIP!!!...
>>
>>SO NOW ARE YOU GOING TO HATE ON "ATCQ" BECAUSE THEY WANTED
>>SOMEBODY WHO DIDNT REALLY KNOW THERE MUSIC TO HONOR THEM BY
>>COVERING SOME OF THEIR MUSIC?...THINK ON THAT OKP'S
>
>Tip was covering his ass.
>
>More than anything, it seems to me that Tip knew you were one
>of the only available celebrities that would translate to
>VH1's audience and do his legacy justice.
>
>Kanye is in the stratosphere right now. The LB's, Tanya's,
>Kidz, and Strange Fruit's of the world are nobodies on a
>mainstream level. You and Pharrell are the only celebrities
>who are (seemingly?) cut from Tribe's cloth and would make
>sense in the context of the show.
>
>>P.S. I FORGET THE WORDS TO SOME OF MY OWN SONGS ON
>STAGE...HEY
>>IT HAPPENS...
>
>Normally cats would be forgiving of a slip up, but when that
>slip-up was preceded by several months of bragging about how
>'I've never heard the album and really don't care to,'
>well......you do the math.
>
>Just some words of concern, fam.
>
>Best of luck with "The Cool" and I hope the remix comes out
>dope.
>
>Your Homie, Peer, and Fan,
>Tigallo
>
>

I didnt want to post in this thread, but Phonte's comments were put so aptly. Phonte wasnt trying to play Lupe, neither was I. Its just, Lupe needed to be checked.

Its nice how Phonte doesnt fake the funk and keeps it real. A lot of you other posters looking real silly right now.

  

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209. "RE: WHY LU, WHY!!"
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I really like you kiddo, but come on! As a female hip-hop lover, I used to flock to ATCQ shows in high school and college (and I’m from TX).

At this point, I guess Lupe is telling us that he has no plans (or interest) which – eh, ok. I think in reality people are being too hard on him, but honestly, I think he’s being a little bit stubborn too.

I don’t necessarily hear the Tribe influence so much on F&L, but I do agree with others that they may be cut from the same cloth. What I think is interesting is that I’ve also seen Lu perform live before and I noticed that he sometimes uses the beat from Souls of Mischief’s “’93 till Infinity” on Kick-Push, which I wouldn’t think he would know that much about given his current level of ignorance about ATCQ and probably, Pharcyde, De La, etc.

Another interesting point is that I’ve heard a snippet of the Paris-Tokyo song (don’t know the real title), but it’s supposed to be on The Cool and he is channeling MM on that song….it has a very MM vibe to it, so the fact that he hasn’t listened to it is really odd to me.


  

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407. "RE: Basically"
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you're a herb tay

  

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208. "Thank you Tay!!! *wraps this post in caution tape*"
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"You post like you look your barber in the eyes when he lines you up."

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213. "On some serious shit."
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This is the greatest thread ever. Everything said here, from Lupe's original post, down to Tay's response, it's just fucking classic. LMAO. I can't wait until someone else does something this "controversial."

I wonder if this will make it into Wikipedia?

________________________________________________________________

Vibe: So you respect his (Trey Songz) gangster.
Lil' Wayne: I know he a G ’cause I tried to holler at his girlfriend and she said no.

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230. "meh, thats some backwards shit u just wrote"
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so basically these Lesson heads and whoever else that listens to Lupe put him in the same category as Tribe, LB, Tanya, Slum, De La, Com, Mos, etc etc because of their fault of ASSUMING he grew up on similar artists that those said artists grew up on/or those said artists itself, he should be what? apologetic for having different influences as an artist? did he do a hiphop sin? just because he falls into the same category doesnt equate the same influences..and its retarded to think otherwise

i think u were trying to say, but said poorly, that he shouldn't be IGNORANT to the fact that people pigeonhole him into those categories, which is true, but nor should he even give a fuck...these said fans of hiphop who assumed what his influences or any other artists influences are based on their genre they fall in are the problem...not lupe

now i do think Lupe should be more apologetic and less PASSIVE (yes u are coming off way too passive on this, if Tip is your friend have a bit more respect even if you dont feel that bad) ..the fact that you didnt listen to Tribe that hard, is fine (i could careless as a fan, unlike these idiots on here) but u were picked to do a TRIBUTE. so at least learn the lyrics, even harder than your own lyrics (which you said have messed up a few times) because remember it was a TRIBUTE...this wasnt a performance for your own solo work, it shouldve been taken a bit more serious...

  

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242. "since you edited to make it more snarky....I'm goin in"
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>i think u were trying to say, but said poorly, that he
>shouldn't be IGNORANT to the fact that people pigeonhole him
>into those categories, which is true, but nor should he even
>give a fuck...these said fans of hiphop who assumed what his
>influences or any other artists influences are based on their
>genre they fall in are the problem...not lupe

I don't need yo poutine eatin ass to be my fuckin interpreter.

I know you're a Lupe fanboy so I prolly hit a nerve or three, but everything I said in my original post was presented clearly and logically in the hopes of helpin my man out.

Re-read the following paragraph and tell me what was 'backwards' about it.....and don't worry, I'll wait (c)Katt Williams

"Your music and more importantly your image leans more towards Native Tongues than killaman-killaman-saykillamankillaman-wit me glock. If it walks and talks like a duck, most people would call it one. You can't blame OKP's or anybody else for putting you inside a box that you were willing to sit comfortably in and benefit from (see: Diamonds, American Terrorist, Daydreaming, I Gotcha)."

All artists have the right to 'not give a fuck about' what people think or perceive of them. However, when said artist is going out of his way to taunt and piss off the people that make up a sizable portion of his supporting fanbase, not only is that assholish behavior, its also bad business.

www.theforeignexchangemusic.com

  

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245. "RE: since you edited to make it more snarky....I'm goin in"
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ay yo tay..instead of e-beefin with cats how about postin a new track from get back or somethin. aint yall releasing a second single or whatever

  

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256. "lol i edited because of some spelling mistakes"
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so calm down...bout' u going in, gwan then...BUT about me being the interpreter line..cute...i'll give it to you maybe i shouldnt have said "what you were trying to say..." i take it back...but what u said was still backwards lol btw poutine eating ass? word? thats the best Canadian joke u could come up with b? u DO KNOW u are in The Lesson, if u are gonna be that low, pause, and throw a joke into your reply to make yourself seem to be winning an argument u gotta be funnier than that...anyways

"Your music and more importantly your image leans more towards Native Tongues than killaman-killaman-saykillamankillaman-wit me glock. If it walks and talks like a duck, most people would call it one. You can't blame OKP's or anybody else for putting you inside a box that you were willing to sit comfortably in and benefit from (see: Diamonds, American Terrorist, Daydreaming, I Gotcha)."

yea i know what the fuck you said, and that shit is backwards...actually i would never say his music nor his image fit in anything that is similar to anyone else he is looped into this Native Tongues category...we just put him there cause we dont know where else to put him...if there were enough artists to put in his category of music i'd throw in J*Davey, Cool Kids and the rest of Fools Gold, Wale, Carps, Nouveau Riche and whatever SCENSTERISH/HIPSTER artists that are out there in the same group with him...anyways, what i found backwards about your quote, just cause it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and a mass of people assume its a duck,....but what happens when those said people find out its not a duck....that it doesnt do duck things lol and didnt grow up on duck music...yea and so on with the damn duck shit...then what. we call him a poser? *shrugs* apparently on this site, yes.

you sir, talk southern, got a southern drawl. what the fuck u doing rapping like a duck? get on some snap shit please. get it? Lupe isnt your typical "Native Tongues" artist...he apparently didnt grow up on Tribe. fine. i dont see why its a big deal on this site. all im saying is YES you can blame OKP's for putting him in a box. YES you can. lol we as hiphop fans were at fault for assuming just because he can stand in line with Common, Mos Def, yourself and your group, that we give him these hiphop rules of what he shouldve grew up on and what apparently he SHOULDVE listened to? word? i mean u brought up songs where he speaked about subject matter that may be similar to artists like Tribe but just because someone is socially conscious doesnt mean they have similar influences of music..i dont see how naming those songs equate to me assuming he listens to Tribe. i think thats hillarious.

thats great u are giving him business advice and its great to see u are looking out for him...but the half of this message board still wont buy the The Cool and will download it cause they still think he's a poser....which is retarded but thats how things are. so he taunts them. *shrugs* oh well, no sale from someone that wasnt gonna buy the record anyways, terrific. i do agree that he should stop, if thats what he's doingm but, meh to each their own....

re-read this if u still have my point twisted...yea i watch HBO too. chitlin eating ass rapper? *shrugs*.




  

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260. "u know what. im stepping out of this argument. lol i dont care this"
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much anymore to keep going on. ima take word from Filthy to stay away from the Lesson..ima go back to downloading random mp3's when they are posted on here. yall win lol. im wrong. down with lupe. pause. but i still stand by my point that i think its ridiculous taht we pigeonhole him as an artist and make up some rules of what he shouldve listened to. altho i agree on why yall think he should go back and listen to it but does it matter, cause he wont. nope. lets leave it alone. yessir.

ima go look for the Pacquaio fight, peeeeace.

Phonte see you in the dot ...i think yall performing with Dilated? some shit like that.

  

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262. "I'mma break this shit down so it don't need to be broke no mo:"
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Lupe saying, "I haven't heard Midnight Marauders" = a little bit surprising, but ultimately no big deal

Lupe saying, "I have NO INTEREST in hearing Midnight Marauders" = flat out disrespect, plain and simple (whether he realizes it or not)

The Native Tongues were THE definitive hip-hop movement that gave birth to the 'alternative' Black rapper. The non-threatening, educated, middle class Black emcee that wasn't poppin 30 niggas a verse, but wasn't pussified either.

Tribe (along with De La and to a lesser extent, the JB's) helped pave the road for The Roots, Slum, LB, Kanye, Lupe, and any other 'left-of-center/hipster/alternative' shit you can name. This is a generally accepted fact that would be hard to disprove.

For Lupe to openly proclaim (repeatedly, even) that he has no interest in hearing the landmark album from a group that clearly paved the way for him, is arrogant and disrespectful.

You'd never hear Dave Grohl pop shit about Jimmy Page.

You'd never hear Plies, Jeezy, or 50 come out they face sideways about Pac. Even if deep down they weren't fans of his music, them niggas ain't stupid either.

Nobody can blame you from where you started out, but where you end up is a different story.

You came up listening to gangsta shit because that's what they were pumpin in your area, then cool. But the bottom line is, GQ and Fader Magazine ain't praising Lupe for spittin 'gangsta shit.' Niggas in the hood clubs ain't goin crazy when 'Daydreaming' (or for that matter, 'Lovin It') comes on. I seriously doubt that Spice-1 and MJG will call on Lupe to commemorate them at their Hip Hop Honors.

The point is, Lupe's appeal and public persona (non-drinker/smoker, strong religious beliefs, critical of hip-hop's negativity) are directly connected to the lane that cats like Tribe helped create for him.

Whether or not he wants to BE in that lane, well that's an issue he'll have to deal with accordingly....but every artist must eventually face reality and realize what side of the bread their butter is on.

I hope this provided clarity.

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271. "*photographical embodiment of above post contained within*"
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284. "I DOUBLE DARE LUPE 2 REPLY TO THIS POST"
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370. "But DMX actually claimed he had no interest in listening to 2Pac."
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>You'd never hear Plies, Jeezy, or 50 come out they face
>sideways about Pac. Even if deep down they weren't fans of
>his music, them niggas ain't stupid either.
>

  

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423. "crack kills tho."
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440. "wasn't that shortly before his career tanked?"
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not that the two are related, but I'm sure it didn't help him any.
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392. "*drops mic*"
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*points at the crowd*
*points towards the exit*

couldn't have said it better myself

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Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

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433. "that makes perfect sense, however...."
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i still feel that everyone in here is asking for some type of apology, or... for lupe to conform... i'm not sure why you think tribe paved the way for lupe... shrug... are you telling me that if tribe didn't exist lupe wouldn't write the same lyrics he is writing today? but in fact, he has never been interested in tribe and yet still created the type of music that is now associated with them... so would it have mattered to lupe if they did or did not exist? i think he would still create the same type of music...

lupe seems like an individual to me, and so do you.. and you both make dope music... but if i were either of you, i'd hate people putting me in a box or defining me... that happens to you a lot on here... does it ever bother you that you are a multi dimensional individual that is sometimes written off as a "backpack rapper?" i mean... what does that even mean? so in the same sense... i can understand why lupe would want to break the connection to "backpack rapper"... he essentially did create the type of music native tongue fans would enjoy.. but he also stated that he had no interest in that music, and that he was strictly into gangster ish... so.. why are we harping on him? maybe he's an individual that looked for a better way out... maybe he looked to sprinkle some originality on an otherwise commercial formula? and it resulted in the type of music he creates... and i for one, have never associated lupe with tribe, or anyone else... to me, the kid is fresh.. as is lb.... so.. i don't know why we can't be individual and why we can't have our freedom to listen to and stand by what we want to... lupe does not have to apologize to anyone, and i do not think he was disrespectful either.. .and i think you put too much weight on tribe by saying they paved the way, which i don't agree with at all.... if anything, i think lupe is here because of 3 people... kanye, jay z, and nas... they saw lupe as the future at one point...

tribe had nothing to do with why lupe is where he is...
peace

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438. "You lump Lupe in with J*Davey? Your musical opinion is supect"
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Lupe and J*Davey sound nothing alike at all. In fact, saying Lupe doesn't sound like Tribe but saying instead that he 'should be lumped in' with J*Davey is ridiculous. The Cool Kids, maybe, even though Lupe is a better rapper than them. But J*Davey? Now it looks like you're disagreeing just to disagree.
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295. "in the hopes of helpin my man out." No you weren't....."
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If you were really trying to help him out, like you said, then you would've given him a call instead of joining this mindless debate thats been going on for three or four days now......I mean if Lupe really is your man like you said he was.....

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303. "You apparently dont understand what it means to check someone"
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Sun Oct-07-07 12:27 PM by Wordup

  

          

>If you were really trying to help him out, like you said,
>then you would've given him a call instead of joining this
>mindless debate thats been going on for three or four days
>now......I mean if Lupe really is your man like you said he
>was.....


Phonte said he let it slide the first a couple of times but now Lupe is getting out of hand.


Friends check friends.

And if you understand what checking someone is, then you'd understand why Phonte did nothing wrong.

  

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304. "I understand the theory behind "friends checking"
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each other"......but not in an internet forum ......thats weak.....he's no better than the rest of the kids in here.....his so-called concern got lost in girl-talk.....

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330. "alright kiddo"
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*trips ur high horse so you fall off it*

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331. "if you see ya mans whylin out IN PUBLIC...."
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>but not in an internet forum ......thats
>weak.....

Then you pull him to the side and respectfully check him in public.

And yes, the internet is 'in public' (see: WORLDwideweb.okayplayer.com)

That's how grown men handle they shit, and I'd hope that a fellow peer would do the same for me if roles were reversed.

Either way, this will be my last post on this subject. Continue to take from it whatever you will. Lu knows that I'm coming from a place of respect.

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355. "Im all for pullin people up on their shit......"
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but you added more fuel to this retarded fire.......

If I was you I woulda called him privately one of those big-ass-zack-morris-nextels you have.......

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432. "lol nygga u full of shyt"
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im sorry but u r

one would never think from the shyt u post and blog that u r an actual artist that was once signed on a major

but im guessin thats prolly one of the reasons ur not anymore

and i aint even tryin to go in

but really

ur supposed to be above it

both yal

im surprised he even addressed this bullshyt and entertained it for so long

he loses on that part

but for u call yaself 'checking' him in public

...come on nygga

u kno damn well u aint had no intentions what so ever of something positive coming from ya reply

funny thing is u prolly goin to smilin in his face next time u see him

hope that nygga get ya bum ass thrown out of VIP




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444. "if that wasn't checking someone in public, what is?"
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lol @ you putting 'checking' in quotes like dude was lying.

it'd be one thing to argue that dude should have checked lu *in private*, but to act like his post doesn't constitute checking someone in public is a bit mind-boggling. what would you call it? checking him in cyberspace?
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485. "besides the fact that the nigga been baiting cats with MM for MONTHS"
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Mon Oct-08-07 08:45 PM by liveguy

  

          

somebody NEEDED to do it.

For duke to even fix his face to perform an ATCQ song is comical.

For duke to perform that shit and go down in flames is hilarious. *cough*poser*cough*

For duke to say he has no want to even listen to, or just skim MM is just stupid.

THEY BIRTHED YOU, FAM!

And the thing is, he does it just to make niggas mad.....

He shouldn't be shocked when niggas laugh ferociously AT his ass with an "I told you so" steez when he fucks up.

somebody NEEDED to do it.

!

Tay did.

Can't spell Lupe without the "L".....

poor guy.

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429. "my thoughts on that paragraph...."
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>
>"Your music and more importantly your image leans more towards
>Native Tongues than killaman-killaman-saykillamankillaman-wit
>me glock. If it walks and talks like a duck, most people would
>call it one. You can't blame OKP's or anybody else for putting
>you inside a box that you were willing to sit comfortably in
>and benefit from (see: Diamonds, American Terrorist,
>Daydreaming, I Gotcha)."
>

i'm having a bit of difficulty with this one... to me, it reads that lupe should accept the reputation his fans gave him and cater to it... just because it may sound like a duck, it doesn't really mean it is a duck in my opinion... if he sat comfortably in and benefited from diamonds, american terrorist, etc... i still don't think he should cater to the people that enjoyed those songs the most... perhaps that is just his opinion on the subject matter and doesn't need to define or label him as a certain type of artist... he's just an artist, making songs about things that interest him... i really don't see the problem in that, or the need to be something as a result... maybe the reason why lupe brought up all this MM stuff in the first place is to let everyone know that.. hey.. i may sound like some of you, but i came from a different place and so in fact... he may not have sat comfortably in diamonds, american terrorist, etc...

peace


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233. ""Fiascogate" = ETHER"
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in the memory of NYC upt JUX�

  

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251. "imma have to read this exchange later, when i'm not fucked up."
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i love you tay. chapel hill/raleigh/durham represenTING! damn i'm gone.



people got mad balls on okp to be talkin shit to niggas they got in they cd player (little brother, lupe, etc.) yall niggas trip me out. tay chills with the nigga lupe, that's the only one that can talk, all yall ova niggas need to relax on the hate. you showin ya slips.

  

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253. "Word up, son. Let 'em know tho, son. I feel you, man. Let 'em know, son."
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(c) Noreaga

>You fuckin up, my nig. Straight up and down.
>
>What's even more amazing is the same cats on this site
>defending your arrogance and ignorance on this topic are the
>same ones who would be ready to FLIP if the statements you
>made about MM were said by a Webbie, Plies, or Soulja Boy.
>
>I purposely remained silent during Fiascogate just to see how
>it all would play out and to see how my man would gain control
>of the situation, but with you forgetting the lyrics to a
>classic song from a classic group on national television while
>paying tribute to them, the 2nd plane has officially hit the
>tower.
>
>You're my homeboy and a colleague that I hold in high regard.
>I'm a fan of your work. Even moreso, we've chopped it up on
>numerous occasions so you know that everything I say is coming
>from a place of respect and concern:
>
>>"I DID NOT GROW UP ON ATCQ!!!..."
>
>>THE LITTLE GHETTO KID FROM THE MEAN STREETS OF THE WESTSIDE
>OF
>>CHICAGO GREW UP ON SPICE 1, 8-BALL & MJG, NWA AND SNOOP
>>DOGG...
>
>That's fine, but your music and more importantly your image
>leans more towards Native Tongues than
>killaman-killaman-saykillamankillaman-wit me glock. If it
>walks and talks like a duck, most people would call it one.
>You can't blame OKP's or anybody else for putting you inside a
>box that you were willing to sit comfortably in and benefit
>from (see: Diamonds, American Terrorist, Daydreaming, I
>Gotcha).
>
>>I WASNT A BACKPACKER RAP ENTHUSIAST!!!...I NEVER CLAIMED TO
>>BE...I GREW UP ON GANGSTA RAP!!!
>
>I have several problems with the term 'backpacker rap,' but
>okay. However, if you truly grew up on gangsta shit and it
>was a big influence on you, you should do more Pop Pop's and
>less Dumb It Down's to help your listeners understand that.
>
>>HAVE I LISTENED TO MM IN ITS ENTIRETY?...NO!!!...(Sorry
>>Quest)...
>
>This statement is nothing but pure arrogance. I wonder how
>your friend Q-Tip would feel about you 'having no interest' in
>hearing what many consider to be his landmark
>album....especially after you forgot his lyrics during a
>tribute and your only defense is, "hey, shit happens......but
>I still ain't listening to the album tho..."
>
>>GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND YOUR SACRED COWS...SOME OF
>YA'LL
>>MAKE ME SICK...
>
>I'm an artist so I understand how we all go through our times
>of arrogance and flat out niggotry, but seriously, now is not
>the time for this. You had a fuck up and there's really no
>one to blame but yourself.
>
>>AND FYI WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY OFFERED TO ME I TURNED IT DOWN
>>BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO BE HONORING
>THEM
>>BECAUSE WHILE I WAS FULLY AWARE OF THEIR IMPACT IN HIP-HOP I
>>WASNT REALLY AWARE OF THEIR MUSIC LIKE THAT...BUT GUESS WHO
>>WANTED ME TO BE APART OF IT....HMMMM...HOW
>>ABOUT...Q-TIP!!!...
>>
>>SO NOW ARE YOU GOING TO HATE ON "ATCQ" BECAUSE THEY WANTED
>>SOMEBODY WHO DIDNT REALLY KNOW THERE MUSIC TO HONOR THEM BY
>>COVERING SOME OF THEIR MUSIC?...THINK ON THAT OKP'S
>
>Tip was covering his ass.
>
>More than anything, it seems to me that Tip knew you were one
>of the only available celebrities that would translate to
>VH1's audience and do his legacy justice.
>
>Kanye is in the stratosphere right now. The LB's, Tanya's,
>Kidz, and Strange Fruit's of the world are nobodies on a
>mainstream level. You and Pharrell are the only celebrities
>who are (seemingly?) cut from Tribe's cloth and would make
>sense in the context of the show.
>
>>P.S. I FORGET THE WORDS TO SOME OF MY OWN SONGS ON
>STAGE...HEY
>>IT HAPPENS...
>
>Normally cats would be forgiving of a slip up, but when that
>slip-up was preceded by several months of bragging about how
>'I've never heard the album and really don't care to,'
>well......you do the math.
>
>Just some words of concern, fam.
>
>Best of luck with "The Cool" and I hope the remix comes out
>dope.
>
>Your Homie, Peer, and Fan,
>Tigallo
>
>


__________
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255. "QFT...this post is crazy."
In response to Reply # 201


  

          

>You fuckin up, my nig. Straight up and down.
>
>What's even more amazing is the same cats on this site
>defending your arrogance and ignorance on this topic are the
>same ones who would be ready to FLIP if the statements you
>made about MM were said by a Webbie, Plies, or Soulja Boy.
>
>I purposely remained silent during Fiascogate just to see how
>it all would play out and to see how my man would gain control
>of the situation, but with you forgetting the lyrics to a
>classic song from a classic group on national television while
>paying tribute to them, the 2nd plane has officially hit the
>tower.
>
>You're my homeboy and a colleague that I hold in high regard.
>I'm a fan of your work. Even moreso, we've chopped it up on
>numerous occasions so you know that everything I say is coming
>from a place of respect and concern:
>
>>"I DID NOT GROW UP ON ATCQ!!!..."
>
>>THE LITTLE GHETTO KID FROM THE MEAN STREETS OF THE WESTSIDE
>OF
>>CHICAGO GREW UP ON SPICE 1, 8-BALL & MJG, NWA AND SNOOP
>>DOGG...
>
>That's fine, but your music and more importantly your image
>leans more towards Native Tongues than
>killaman-killaman-saykillamankillaman-wit me glock. If it
>walks and talks like a duck, most people would call it one.
>You can't blame OKP's or anybody else for putting you inside a
>box that you were willing to sit comfortably in and benefit
>from (see: Diamonds, American Terrorist, Daydreaming, I
>Gotcha).
>
>>I WASNT A BACKPACKER RAP ENTHUSIAST!!!...I NEVER CLAIMED TO
>>BE...I GREW UP ON GANGSTA RAP!!!
>
>I have several problems with the term 'backpacker rap,' but
>okay. However, if you truly grew up on gangsta shit and it
>was a big influence on you, you should do more Pop Pop's and
>less Dumb It Down's to help your listeners understand that.
>
>>HAVE I LISTENED TO MM IN ITS ENTIRETY?...NO!!!...(Sorry
>>Quest)...
>
>This statement is nothing but pure arrogance. I wonder how
>your friend Q-Tip would feel about you 'having no interest' in
>hearing what many consider to be his landmark
>album....especially after you forgot his lyrics during a
>tribute and your only defense is, "hey, shit happens......but
>I still ain't listening to the album tho..."
>
>>GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND YOUR SACRED COWS...SOME OF
>YA'LL
>>MAKE ME SICK...
>
>I'm an artist so I understand how we all go through our times
>of arrogance and flat out niggotry, but seriously, now is not
>the time for this. You had a fuck up and there's really no
>one to blame but yourself.
>
>>AND FYI WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY OFFERED TO ME I TURNED IT DOWN
>>BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO BE HONORING
>THEM
>>BECAUSE WHILE I WAS FULLY AWARE OF THEIR IMPACT IN HIP-HOP I
>>WASNT REALLY AWARE OF THEIR MUSIC LIKE THAT...BUT GUESS WHO
>>WANTED ME TO BE APART OF IT....HMMMM...HOW
>>ABOUT...Q-TIP!!!...
>>
>>SO NOW ARE YOU GOING TO HATE ON "ATCQ" BECAUSE THEY WANTED
>>SOMEBODY WHO DIDNT REALLY KNOW THERE MUSIC TO HONOR THEM BY
>>COVERING SOME OF THEIR MUSIC?...THINK ON THAT OKP'S
>
>Tip was covering his ass.
>
>More than anything, it seems to me that Tip knew you were one
>of the only available celebrities that would translate to
>VH1's audience and do his legacy justice.
>
>Kanye is in the stratosphere right now. The LB's, Tanya's,
>Kidz, and Strange Fruit's of the world are nobodies on a
>mainstream level. You and Pharrell are the only celebrities
>who are (seemingly?) cut from Tribe's cloth and would make
>sense in the context of the show.
>
>>P.S. I FORGET THE WORDS TO SOME OF MY OWN SONGS ON
>STAGE...HEY
>>IT HAPPENS...
>
>Normally cats would be forgiving of a slip up, but when that
>slip-up was preceded by several months of bragging about how
>'I've never heard the album and really don't care to,'
>well......you do the math.
>
>Just some words of concern, fam.
>
>Best of luck with "The Cool" and I hope the remix comes out
>dope.
>
>Your Homie, Peer, and Fan,
>Tigallo
>
>

********************************************************************




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283. "man i love this place"
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297. "And there you have it."
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I'm tired of the "worst song I've ever heard" being something new every month.
-okp simpsycho


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302. "Dear Phonte."
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-> Next time you mention a list of artists who "dont mean shit in the main stream", will you please remember to throw in "The Procussions" and of course myself "Mr.J.Medeiros"!

-Ah, yeah. Thank You.

Mr.J.Medeiros
Regional Manager of Dunder and Mifflin


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327. "GET ME BODIED! GET ME BODIED! GET ME BODIED!"
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___________________________________________


<----Steph is still losing

Stack paper, eat good food, wear nice clothes, and fuck pretty bitches

  

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377. "*chokes on popcorn*"
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386. "you stupid."
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395. "you just sold me a copy of 'getback'"
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thanks so much for being a true voice of reason, phonte. much respect

Jordan!

  

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436. "Grand-sonned"
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219. "*tags name on wall*"
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under the influence 2k9

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223. "why do you come on here and hang yourself?"
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You've already establsihed that you're a joke, that you're jockin on cats style but yet you've "never Listened" to their greatest works, and that you get rattled by these cats on the net? What are you really trying to do, I took cats on here long as shit to see that you're a clown. With the style you use, why would you market that to cats from where you're from if it sounds different than the stuff you and those cats listend to and still listen to.

http://soundcloud.com/phyziks

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ob1 kenobi
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224. "I'm a fan of yours, and I will continue to be..."
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...what happened was wack. no way around it... would be wack if anybody did it, pharrell, com, etc.

just one of those situations where you say "yo, i fucked up" and keep it moving.

and as a fan of music - go listen to mm. good music is good music, and mm is good music.

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225. "This would be like Stevie asking me to sing "Living for the City" with h..."
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And me being like, "Yo, sorry, man... I ain't never heard Innervisions before".

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bravebeats
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226. "I LOVE YOU LUPE"
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i dont care what anybody thinks or has to say. just keep makin that dope music. THE COOOOOOL

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228. "i had to check your profile to verify your gender just now."
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492. "word, cuz that's some straight up lickin' of the balls right there..."
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╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮





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308. "?!!?!"
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Now Playing:
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

  

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475. "RE: I LOVE YOU LUPE"
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lol

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CondoM
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231. "If you ever do listen to MM, please write a review of it for us."
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Ill Jux
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234. "i didn't even know this assface fucked up the song, that is purely ..."
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some disrespectful shit. i mean honestly.

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237. "how fucking HARD is it to listen to an album ?"
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especially is the person is my 'friend' I'm gonna listen to it just cuz -

it'll take what, 60, 70 minutes ?!?

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238. "PURE ETHER"
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241. "Lupe Clears the Air (Swipe)"
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5789/title.-update-lupe-fiasco-clears-the-air-on-hip-hop-honors

“No matter how much you prepare, you can still pull a Kanye West on Saturday Night Live,” Lupe Fiasco said to HipHopDX from the set of his video for “Superstar” as he referred to Kanye West's flubbing of his own lyrics on live television. Fiasco is 2 days removed from his slip up of Phife’s verse of "Electric Relaxation" at the VH1 Hip Hop Honors which has caused a whirlwind of controversy throughout the internet world.

Lupe Fiasco was asked to take part in the tribute to A Tribe Called Quest at the VH1 Hip Hop Honors, after being against the idea at initially, Fiasco finally committed. While the performance was considered high powered and full of energy it was Fiasco's two bar slip up that has gotten all the attention.

“The label brought the idea to me and I told them that I didn’t think it was cool because I didn’t grow up on them. People are going to think that’s phony,” Fiasco stated. “I think people who know that I haven’t listened to the Midnight Maurauders album are going to look at me and say its phony. They gave me mad press kits on Tribe and I was like ‘I know who they are!’ but now this was becoming (even more) phony because I had to beef up and play a role that I know them. Just for the sake of putting on a facade for my fans? I’ll never do that.”

Even though he was against the idea, Lupe stated that it was Q-Tip personally reaching out that finally brought him on board.

“He could have picked anybody but he picked me for whatever reason so I can come out and represent the young people - which is the generation I speak for,” Fiasco said. “Tip knows I can’t speak for their generation. I didn’t grow up in their struggle. So whatever his purpose for putting me on there, he put me on and I’ll honor him. I did my best.”

Lupe cited that things were a bit last minute and while he isn’t making excuses, asks for people to look at the facts.

“(VH1 and my label) approached me 2 ½ weeks about the Tribe performance, they didn’t get the lyrics together for the songs they wanted us to do until a couple of days before the show. They were waiting on Q-Tip to verify the lyrics and the lyrics I got from the network were wrong!”

“I’m not even tripping on that though,” Fiasco continued. “I went in there and did the best that I could do. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. I perform in front of 30,000 fans and have forgotten my own lyrics! I’m not embarrassed and I’m not apologizing. Because that’s what it is. You go out there and do the best you can do (with all performances) and if you stumble you pick up the ball and keep it moving. Because I turned right around and did Busta’s verse from ‘Scenario’ and killed it. Don’t nobody want to say that! They want to focus on me messing up the last two bars of Phife’s verse from Electric Relaxation. I’m a disgrace now?”

Lupe explained he was honored to be considered and worked hard on nailing down the verses but felt uncomfortable considering he didn’t grow up on Tribe - but got his musical influences from the likes of Spice 1 as well as 8Ball & MJG albums which are “just as important to hip hop as A Tribe Called Quest was.”

“I can’t say that I’m sorry for not growing up on Tribe, that’s just the way it is,” he continued. “ I’m not being egotistical, I’m not boasting but the fact is that the era that Tribe was rocking in was my big sister’s era (Ed Note: Fiasco is 25 years old). I just want everybody to understand that just because I messed up those two bars that I’m not pissing on Tribe and what they’ve accomplished.”

www.thefizix.com

  

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244. "RE: Lupe Clears the Air (Swipe)"
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oops already a thread about it. my bad

www.thefizix.com

  

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249. "RE: Lupe Clears the Air (Swipe)"
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i'm not terribly worried about the messup, but...

"Because I turned right around and did Busta’s verse from ‘Scenario’ and killed it"

really, i think maybe only busta can "kill" a busta verse, especially that one. lupe is a decent lyricist, but as an mc, he isn't exactly a monster on the delivery like that. in the ring, he's a lightweight to busta's heavyweight.

  

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250. "if anything this is a L for Qtip"
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sounds like qtip was on lupe dick a lil bit

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261. "I agree with that too, they shouldn't have pushed him into it."
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But, he his own man, he coulda told them naw.

In more important news, its some new ill philly freestyles on Youtube, and I just saw Meek Mills freestylin on Rap City....

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263. "but"
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Lupe also said Tip was a friend.
So no.

"That ain't gold. That's fools gold!" - Young Z

  

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452. "He did Busta's verse? I thought Busta came out to do his verse?"
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246. "see what NAS has started, y'all playing right into it"
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"won't somebody think about the children!!!!!" (c) Lovejoy

  

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248. "I clicked on this post at 0 replies"
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and yall have more than exceeded my expectations WOW

i have to say the best part was Bombastic saying Lupe reminds him of Skee-Lo (the funniest part at least)

Lupe, if you still reading this, F&L was the best album in 06. this will blow over. just keep making good music.
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johnbook
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252. "Now think on this..."
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...there's something you and everyone else who has never heard A Tribe Called Quest can do. Pete Rock even said it once:

Listen. Just listen.

That's all. Egos don't have to be bruised, and the albums are not only still in print, but you can download it for free if you want to go that route.

It's not embarrassing that one had never heard of A Tribe Called Quest, and of course not too embarrassing that someone doesn't know their place in hip-hop's history.

What can be embarrassing is when you get blasted in real time. This is not about hearing of a news report and then seeing or hearing the final results in a day, a week, or in a few months. You are responsible for your actions, and people will have strong opinions. First and foremost, listen. Second, read up. Third, learn.

You can grow up listening to one style of music and end up doing something that might be considered a 180, that might be a reflection of your influences, your tastes, or simply wanting to do something different. People have come to you because you're a young guy with an old vibe, people want and demand lyricism at a time when it seems the mainstream doesn't want any of it.

I said this in my last column, but hip-hop went from writing lyrics in notebooks to writing lines on notepads. Nothing against wanting to dance and chant the same line 64 times in a role, but when you are a part of what is known as "rap music". you rap. You use your mind. The fact that you have been compared to those of the golden era shows how much people are listening, and I am certain that they will continue to stay with you as you grow and expand on your artistry. Lifelong support goes a long way, just ask ?uest. You didn't know things before? Know them. You got fans who want to back you up. You have artists who want to show support, even those who will verbally beef with you for the sake of saying "c'mon, up your game".

In other words, people are listening, people want to hear more. Give them a reason to come back.







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http://www.musicforamerica.org/node/114473

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THE ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/index.php?vst=45730

  

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254. "(*tipsy wail*)Ah, I'm still a fan and all but Lupe is either dumb as hel..."
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....or a masochist.

Why o' why bring this up again?
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers. (c) Kno

  

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257. "LOL @ Lupe Haters...."
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Crying over Midnight Marauders like it was the Bible or something.

Stop losing sleep.

  

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286. "I think it is those that have come in here to defend him on the matter"
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for no other reason than liking his music that look pathetic.

And I love how you are all pretending that those who dissaprove are being "sheep" and on some "me too" shit instead of thinking that Lupe's style owes a lot to Tribe.

  

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258. "Guys, Phonte's reply is the intelligent and most common sense one."
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Everyone else, wrap it up B. You're just not getting or just arguing for argument's sake.

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267. "yeah nigga...post need to be finished"
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Everyone else just wanna be responded to at this point.

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274. "Too Late Mash, This Shit Has Become An OKP Meeting Point Post"
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at this point anyone with some sense, self included, should walk away.

But we both know that shit ain't gonna happen.

Lupe should have had enough sense to not jump this shit off again, sadly but strangely entertainingly, he did not.

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

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265. "he prob forgot the lyrics so noone could say he was a 'backpacker'"
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on purpose
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gluvnast
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269. "to lupe & phonte"
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yo, i've been reading all these posts on this thread with awe at the fact that you BOTH call y'allselves emcees! the number one thing about being an emcee is showmanship and in different ways, neither of y'all displayed that here.

1st to lupe:

yo, i understand that you never listened or grew up on ATCQ. you're from the chi and most niggaz around that time in the 90's were more influenced to hood shit than something from native tongues. i can understand and respect that. i'm with you 100% that nobody has the right to dictate who you should listen and what music you should be making. you're an artist, and it's your FREEDOM to make any music that YOU want to make. so just because you grew up on one brand of rap music does not mean you are REQUIRED to do that type of music. an artist have that RIGHT to express himself however he pleases.

with that said, you REALLY ARE fucking up like phonte said. not because you never grew up on ATCQ, but the way you reacted and trying to cop pleas is very lame. 1st of all, if an emcee, especially of legendary status like Q-tip, request for you to do a cover and you accept to do so, at least take the shit seriously. Rakim set a standard when he said, "no mistakes allowed" and that's whut every emcee should STRIVE for! but since flubbed up some lines, this full explaination is completely unneccessary and is making you out more of a fool than anything else. all you have to do is apologize to Tip and maybe even your fans if needed and kept it moving. hell, KANYE fucked up on his OWN song live on SNL! you don't see him trying to cop pleas over it. he kept it moving. fuck whut other people think! you do you, but out of respect BECAUSE you accepted the request, you should have been more serious, not just because that is Q-tip, but because of the emcee in you. that's your JOB!!



to phonte:

you're sounding like a straight up hypocrite, IMO. as an artist, i'll give you the respect that you're one talanted muthafucka, but everytime i see you post, you display a personality that damn near to the point of me questioning your self-esteem issue. now i dunno you from jack shit, but that's how you come off. 1st of all, i feel it's very unprofessional to appear like you're kicking another artist while he's down. granted, this is a messageboard and you have the right and freedom to express yourself here, but to call someone out like that INSTEAD of calling homie or reach out to him on a personal level?? come on, homie, that's lame on your part. and here's the thing where i feel like is very hypocritical. i could of sworn UP AND DOWN you wanted your group not to be tagged with the ATCQ sitgma. that you wanted to set your own path, and now you shit on another dude because of the type of music he makes? so whut that lupe's music is of a native tongues vibe?? does that mean it's a PREREQUISITE to listen to their music? was it a prerequiste for you? is it because you LOVED midnite marauders the reason you're FORCED to make music similar to that?? you're saying that an artist have NO CHOICE but to be pigeon-holed to whutever music they make? maybe THAT'S the reason why you never going to make it nationwide and mostly going to be looked at as a local act. sales aside, LUPE is already more famous and internationally known than you are! apparently him and his management knows whut the fuck they're doing. i don't POSSIBLY THINK that his entire fanbase grew up on ATCQ. maybe YOUR FANBASE does which is why the only people that have heard of you is mostly on the INTERNET....niggaz outside the net don't know a LITTLE BROTHER, but niggaz even if they don't bump him KNOW who lupe is, and he've been in the spotlight in a shorter spanm than you have.

i apologize, but that's how you appear to come off. like someone with a little bit of jealousy and eager to kick another artist down when the chance is given. granted, lupe SHOULD have memorized the lines, but to suggest that he's OBLIGATED to be a follower of ATCQ is damn ignorant, just to tell you the truth. lupe don't do his music because he wants native tongue fans, he does his music because that's the music HE wants to make. niggaz NOW have to have a fucking background check these days???? is that whut HIPHOP has become now???

  

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276. "read phonte's message again"
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cause there's no different between what he said and what you just said to lupe. as far as i can tell he aint being no hypocrite. as is typical u wanna talk about LBs lack of sales and exposure as if that somehow has ANYthing to do with lupe's arrogance.

oh and...

http://www.mvremix.com/urban/interviews/littlebrother.shtml

""Tribe, De La, P.E....were like our big brothers in the game so now we are the little brothers of that movement...carrying on the tradition of good music.""

so what the fuck are YOU talking about?

  

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277. "all i said that lupe never should of copped pleas"
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and that regardless who it is....as a emcee you should STRIVE to do your best at all times...it have NOTHING to do with who your influences are...

phonte, on the other hand was talking about lupe being portray a certain why therefore he's obligated to be boxed in to that type of image...he said it himself that lupe not CARING to listen to MM is straight disrespectful...

me personally, who gives a fuck on who listened to whut? whut does that have anything to do with making music? if that's the kind of music you want to make...then so be it, just because it fits to a certain arena shouldn't matter

  

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279. "oh and also....i think you need to reread whut i said"
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>cause there's no different between what he said and what you
>just said to lupe. as far as i can tell he aint being no
>hypocrite. as is typical u wanna talk about LBs lack of sales
>and exposure as if that somehow has ANYthing to do with lupe's
>arrogance.
>
>oh and...
>
>http://www.mvremix.com/urban/interviews/littlebrother.shtml
>
>""Tribe, De La, P.E....were like our big brothers in the game
>so now we are the little brothers of that movement...carrying
>on the tradition of good music.""
>
>so what the fuck are YOU talking about?

i never spoke about sales..in fact i said SALES ASIDE, and look at overall recognition...and spoke the truth! unlike yourself who appears to be a bias fan of LB...i pointed at BOTH of the flaws

also, i said maybe it was HIS obligation or prerequisite to pigeonhole himself to that type of arena, but i KNOW for a fact that phonte DON'T want to be compared to this group or that group....

like i said, who CARES whut a person's preference is...but phonte should of AT LEAST reached out and voiced his opinion DIRECTLY instead of all over the net...but i feel like that's unprofessional of him, especially if that's his colleague


point blank...lupe was in the wrong for trying to cop pleas instead of merely apologizing and kept it moving, and phonte is in the wrong to voicing out the way he did...

  

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324. "damn this nigga kinda went IN on phonte,lol"
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480. "and Phonte kinda went IN your girlfriend, lol"
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Never trust a HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

  

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493. "^^incast joke level of funny at this point^^"
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yup yup

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474. "uh, y'all do realize that lupe ain't sell THAT much more than LB"
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y'all are acting like lupe has a gold plaque on his wall. i don't think he even broke 200k. internationally, LB and Lupe are closer in 'fame' than you apparently think. and this is with jay appearing on lupe's album and exec producing it.
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272. "lol @ all this bullshit"
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Lupe just listen to the fuckin album already

dumb ass

oh well

  

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275. "RE: lol @ all this bullshit"
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351. "LOL"
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359. "I got $20 that says he listened to it a long time ago"
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Not that I really care either way. But stubborness for it's sake is 5th grade shit.

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484. "*smacks forehead*"
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lmfao!

Like, would it kill that nigga to pop that shit in on his way to his next city and just give it an ear? LOL @ this whole silly mess. Even the niggas that seem smart be dumb as all hell. lol

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273. "Lupe Saying This, Is Like Bilal Saying He Never Listened To Prince's......."
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....."Purple Rain" album & claiming he will never take a chance to listen to it then Prince coming up to Bilal wanting him to do a tribute cover song off of the album.

Lupe what is your deal with being so proud of this, do you listen to music that you & your homeboys like & never try to dig thru old shit you missed out on?

So if some indi label released an early Eightball & MJG album today would you go & cop it even though it's all old material you've never heard or you going to stay in the dark?

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501. "^^^bingo"
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that's the most bass ackwards shit.

Dude shoulda just stopped posting on okp like he said he would.

This backlash is spectacular to watch tho.

lol

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280. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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Oh, so this clown is Lupe Fiasco?
Man you have got to watch what comes out of your mouth.
I know you are still young, so take it as an advice.

Simple: Think first, talk shit later.

The fact that you did not listen to ATCQ, or any other kinds of
shit for that matter, don't concern me none.

But the fact that you had to say that in front of all those admirers
of their music, and better yet, infront of ATCQ themselves, do fuck up my head and was pathetic, immature and most definitely out of place.


Grow the fuck up.

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281. "exactly"
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>Oh, so this clown is Lupe Fiasco?
>Man you have got to watch what comes out of your mouth.
>I know you are still young, so take it as an advice.
>
>Simple: Think first, talk shit later.
>
>The fact that you did not listen to ATCQ, or any other kinds
>of
>shit for that matter, don't concern me none.
>
>But the fact that you had to say that in front of all those
>admirers
>of their music, and better yet, infront of ATCQ themselves, do
>fuck up my head and was pathetic, immature and most definitely
>out of place.
>
>
>Grow the fuck up.

the very LEAST he could of done was own up to his fuck up, apologize, and kept it moving...but these rappers today don't know showmanship at all...and they call themselves EMCEES

  

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282. "DAMN"
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you should of dumb'd it down

i hear ya...i think you should check for em, but i hear ya.

  

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287. "Wait, u did a tribute song on nat'l tv & didn't listen to the song???"
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LMAO! That's thee dumbest shit I ever heard in my life! Over an argument on this site at that??? LOL! Damn fam, DAYUM.

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292. "Shit does happen, but there is shit you just dont say here..."
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I mean, damn LP, you are diggin a grave on one of the hip hops biggest communities, one that fully embodies your music and respects what you do.

I'll put it in retrospect: When a friend of mine says they haven't listened to a hip hop album, I make sure that they here it as soon as possible. If they refuse, I just stop hooking them up with good shit b/c refusing to hear a Doggystyle, Ready To Die, Midnight Marauders, 36 Chambers, or whatever other classic album, regardless of style of rap, is just crazy talk. I mean, why not just listen to some of the best music of the genre to ever hit the headphones? It's kind of insulting to me as a fan, so what do you think it looks like to other artists, the media, and the artist themself?

Case in point: My brother is a huge fan of Nelly and the St. Lunatics, Lil Wayne, T.I., G-Unit, and the like. He asked me the other day to put him on to some of those previously mentioned albums b/c he had never heard them. I am pulling shit out left and right to educate him on the greatness that is hip hop so that his ears don't have to be filled what MTV and VH1 are telling him to listen to. Then he tells me that he doesn't like a lot of the production on those albums, and that they are just not 'banging' enough for his ears to hear.

WHAT??

So to this day, he hasn't heard about 90% of the 'classic' albums that we all love and adore b/c of a technicality like that. The truth is, he just doesn't want to give these artists the time b/c of the 'I told you so' factor.

I'm done.

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293. "i hope you realize people tastes differ...and there's no standard"
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to whut you consider a classic is another person's garbage and vice versa...if your brother wasn't feeling it then he that's his personal taste

with lupe, if the nigga don't want to listen to MM then that's his perogative...why force feed shit that he don't care to listen to? whut does ATCQ have anything to do with his OWN music? nothing

people want to pigeonhole people to one group ands get upset when they realize that that person you want to put a tagline on don't want to be tagged as such...

a nigga's background check should be irrelevent to the music he makes...if he makes dope shit, then that all it matters...who cares whut he was brought up on...

but i AM with you that lupe should of took the time to get his verse right....not because of ATCQ, but for the fact he's an emcee and should take his job as an emcee seriously regardless if it's your verse, written for you or you're covering a song....and if he fucked up and get called upon it...just man up about it and apologize and move on...

  

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362. "Oh I know..."
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But still, as a fan of hip hop, you have to have at least listened to the classics before judging them.

There are albums and groups that I don't particularly like, and opinions of mine that are out there and not in accordance with a lot of the snobs around here, but I have a good basis from making and shaping those opinions.

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305. "LOL at this post.."
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but I've never listened to MM or Low End Theory in its entirety..

I uhh.... didnt like ATCQ when I was growing up.... I tried though...later... oh well...

I liked grittier music ... still do...

I mean I cant for the life of me get through do you want more... and Dela forget about it..

  

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306. "Do you rap?"
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Cos I think the point is really that it's an album made by a group that paved the way for Lupe to be the rapper he is.

  

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315. "tru good point"
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i aint look at it that way and no I dont rap LOL

  

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317. "how can MM pave the way for lupe when he was never inspired by it???"
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it'll be different if his music was INFLUENCED by whut they did, but it didn't...so how can you say ATCQ opened doors for him??? all you can say is both that group and lupe make similar music...one being the pioneer

now if this was "it was written" THEN you could say that, because it opened his eyes that this is whut he wants to do....OR if you would of said kanye or even "college dropout" which IS closer to the type of music lupe does AS WELL AS kanye being the 1st to give him national exposure THEN you could of rightfully justified as someone paving the way for another...because kanye got people checking for rappers in the CHI as well as being a direct link

but you cannot say that about ATCQ because he was never influenced by their music...so how can they opened the door for him when he never was influenced thru them???

  

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320. "Paving the way doesn't necessarily mean being a direct influence"
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As I and a few others mentioned in previous posts, without acts like Tribe and the Native Tongue movement in general, there would be no demand for artists like Lupe Fiasco in 2007. You, several others in this thread and Lupe himself might not realise it, but the guy owes a lot to Tribe and their work.

  

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381. "but i don't recall lupe ever saying he DISLIKED tribe...just that he nev..."
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if it's the case that the ATCQ created an audience for that brand of music (even though it still began with jungle brothers and expanded with de la soul)...that's all good

but whut does that HAVE to do with someone never listened to an album???? it's as if you're in a funk band is it REQUIRED for you to listen to EVERY classic P-FUNK album????

sure tribe ended up being the most popular of the native tongues....but y'all revisionist be killing me with this "paving the way" when in reality that type of audience was already opened when they DID come out...if anything, de la would of been more responsible due to the crossover effect

yet still does that mean you are REQUIRED to listen to "3 feet high and rising"????

  

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374. "i hear you, Tiger Woods...fuck Charlie Sifford"
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i see you Clarence Thomas...eff a Thurgood Marshall
as for me? i ain't never met MLK, and i ain't really trying to hear about no dreams (i came up on Tavis Smiley)

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380. "i love sarcasm"
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soooooooooo, from your definition it would be ACTUALLY THE JUNGLE BROTHERS that opened the door NOT ATCQ being they were the ones that started native tongues ...

NO WAIT, really the PHARCYDE owe it for ATCQ because if it wasn't for THEM making rap, they would of never make that music either!!

no wait, souls of mischief is in COMPLETE DEBT to ATCQ...because that group opened the door for them...without that they would of NEVER could of make the music they made....

  

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454. "No, by my definition..."
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it's a time/place thing:

it's cool for TWoods to say 'i'm not up on Charlie Sifford' to a room full of Charlie Sifford fans.

it's jive silly for him to come back to that same room and say "Charlie asked me to rep him at an awards event; i'm still not up on him, so i said no- but then i said yes cuz i heard he's important to me for some reason. but no research- i still didn't do any background on dude...AND i messed up- but hey, it happens, K.I.M....

nobody owes anybody anything, but if it's really nothing let it play out in absentia- not a good move to preach 'i still have no intentions of reading the bible' to the choir



>soooooooooo, from your definition it would be ACTUALLY THE
>JUNGLE BROTHERS that opened the door NOT ATCQ being they were
>the ones that started native tongues ...
>
>NO WAIT, really the PHARCYDE owe it for ATCQ because if it
>wasn't for THEM making rap, they would of never make that
>music either!!
>
>no wait, souls of mischief is in COMPLETE DEBT to
>ATCQ...because that group opened the door for them...without
>that they would of NEVER could of make the music they
>made....
>
>

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437. "^^^^When sarcasm goes wrong"
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>i see you Clarence Thomas...eff a Thurgood Marshall
>as for me? i ain't never met MLK, and i ain't really trying
>to hear about no dreams (i came up on Tavis Smiley)

Struggles for black in America>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rap

Trying way too hard. We're talking about enter fuckin tainment! If he didn't listen to and doesn't want to who cares? I don't. All I want from an artist, of who's music I purchase, is to make dope music. Simple as that. I could give a fuck if you are or are not a fan of people who made similar music. I do agree, though, that Lupe fucked up by tryna come all hard at okp in his defiance. He should've known how sensitive some of y'all cats are. If it were me I wouldn't have said shit; just left it as is.

  

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458. "RE: ^^^^When sarcasm goes wrong"
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>>i see you Clarence Thomas...eff a Thurgood Marshall
>>as for me? i ain't never met MLK, and i ain't really trying
>>to hear about no dreams (i came up on Tavis Smiley)
>
>Struggles for black in America>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rap
>
>Trying way too hard. We're talking about enter fuckin
>tainment! If he didn't listen to and doesn't want to who
>cares? I don't. All I want from an artist, of who's music I
>purchase, is to make dope music. Simple as that. I could give
>a fuck if you are or are not a fan of people who made similar
>music

i believe the statement i was responding to was 'how can MM pave the way for lupe when he was never inspired by it???'. it's ok to be obliquely aware of trailblazers yet not be up on them. but why bother seeking out the fans of tribe to tell 'em 'yeah i effed up, but i was only doing it cuz Q-Tip asked me to; i still don't plan on listening to the record'. it's a silly place to take a silly stance, and i say that as a cat who has NO problem with his basic position.


>I do agree, though, that Lupe fucked up by tryna come
>all hard at okp in his defiance. He should've known how
>sensitive some of y'all cats are. If it were me I wouldn't
>have said shit; just left it as is.
>

should've known? he quit OKP behind the first flame-thread... coming back flying the same flag while simultaneously explaining that he often fooks up songs was not the advice i would have given him.

but i'ma buy his album.

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307. "Lupe Won OKP gets an L again"
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Besides Tribe aint all that anyway.

  

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309. "^^^ Stan #2 hundred something ^^^"
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yeah, you and Lu 'won'.

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319. "you have kanye in your avatar... you have NO credibility"
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312. "what a fucking trainwreck."
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phonte shut this shit down.

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356. "Pretty much on both counts"
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313. "This is great shit to read when ur hungover........."
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..........pure comedy - I don't even know where to begin - whoever put up the gif of Michael Jackson eating popcorn from Thriller is a genius by the way............as for Lupe - ehhh - just drop it already, come out with The Cool, and back up all of your justifications for this shit with a dope album...........



  

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314. "RE: This is great shit to read when ur hungover........."
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>whoever put up the gif of Michael Jackson eating popcorn from
>Thriller is a genius by the way

I LOL'd hard when I saw that post.

  

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321. "half the people in this post like Clipse... what do they know?"
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329. "wow"
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everyone needs to get off their righteous dicks... you guys sound like a bunch of internet nerds rioting because some dude didn't listen to an album. He missed a couple of bars, give me a fucking break. And if you think this will hurt his sales even one bit, you're delusional. Phonte is just jealous he'll never reach the masses like Lupe has. A majority of the people that are attacking Lupe right now were haters to begin with.

  

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333. "Oh fuck off."
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I don't know how many times I'm gonna have to tell you cunts that there's a difference between not hearing the album and acting like listening to it is beneath you. The only people that need to get off their high horses here are Lupe, and anyone else who seems to think he owes nothing to artists like Tribe.

And take the sales shit somewhere else, it is irrelevant.

Before you respond with the hater bullshit, I was not one to begin with, and this has not changed the fact that I like Lupe's music.

  

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336. "exactly what masses has Lupe reached fam?"
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the nigga sold what, 250k?!!?! FOH

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348. "^^real talk"
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481. "lol"
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332. "*waits for "Leave Lupe Alone" clip on youtube*"
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that would make this fiasco complete.

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357. "lol."
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dula dibiasi
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334. "lmao. this nigga's a dickhead."
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and i dig yr music a lot, fam... but this is a horrible look

shit reminds me of that chris rock 'black ppl vs niggas' bit -- "niggas LOVE to 'not know' some shit, nothing make a nigga happier than not knowing the answer to yr question"

haha, dood is making a point of personal pride out of the fact that he hasn't heard an album -- a critically revered album by a guy he calls his "friend" -- all b/c he "didn't grow up listening to that backpack shit"

the fuck kind of excuse is that? i mean... you listen to PINK FLOYD, cuzzo -- and i know damn well that the vice lords in madison terrace wasn't bumping no DSotM back in the day.

i've seen this cat in interviews name-checking portishead, linkin park, thom yorke, all sorts of "non-hood" shit -- but you can't go take 45 minutes to listen to a fucking tribe album? really?

it's like quez said: i ain't never heard a cold crush brothers tape, but it ain't like if a muhfucka came up to me + gave me one, i'ma be like "nah fam, i ain't tryna hear that shit"... i'ma @ the very least give it a spin or two, just as a fan of hip hop to see where them niggas was coming from

lol, shit's retarded

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335. "truth"
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Co sign.....Man if I JUST listened to the shit I "grew up on" (as in the music that was played in my Middle School all the time) I would probably still think DMX's "Ruff Ryder's Anthem" was the GOAT rap song...God only knows the joy I get from listening to an Al Green record even though I was born in 1987.

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338. "kids like u and my brother (he's a 88 baby) give me hope for music"
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in the future. yall appreciate the shit. i love it.

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455. "co-sign that"
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87 over here too.

  

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350. "this post is great, minus the dickhead comment"
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this is SO true:

>shit reminds me of that chris rock 'black ppl vs niggas' bit
>-- "niggas LOVE to 'not know' some shit, nothing make a nigga
>happier than not knowing the answer to yr question"

"hey man, you listen to that classic album yet?"

"NAW NIGGA YOU KNOW I DONT FUCK WITH THAT SHIT!"

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371. "ask a nigga anything: "ay nigga, what's the capital of zimbabwe?""
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"AW NIGGA! IONO NOTHIN' BOUT THAT BULLSHIT!!! HAHAHAHA! KEEPIN' IT REAL, FOOL!!!"

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358. "Missed this reply before, and yeah, it's on point"
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367. "end of thread."
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This says it all. No one is mad that dude hasn't heard MM. But being proud of not having heard it? And then name dropping Tip? And then performing songs from it on national TV (and fuckin up)? And then arguing it's not what he grew up on when we all know he's tryna sample Pink Floyd?

Nope.

Try again.

God Himself could come here and type what Lupe did. And we'd all say "Nope. FOH, God. You really need to hear MM. It's some of the best music Your people have ever produced. And we thank You for it. But You should take 50 minutes and give it a spin."

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388. "Chris Rock reference=GOAT"
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very well put.

  

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337. "Can this PLEASE get an Archive??"
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Come on!

  

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399. "PLEASE???!???"
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This went from better than TV to stadium status far too quickly.
I can't read all this now

  

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TheLyricalCollective
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339. "Another thought"
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I think the reason people are getting so mad is because we all have had that ONE friend. The kid that told you to turn the De la soul cd off in your car cause he couldn't stand that "pussy shit"...

In 11th grade my friend used to argue against my arsenal of dope MCs that 50 Cent was better...and the shit would seriously get me mad cause he was being blinded...but I got through to him and now we are in a rap group together promoting the so called "real hip hop".

Now I'm not saying Lupe is that ignorant friend...the artists he grew up on were all very respectable in their own right.

But we remember that friend...and we remember how great it felt when he bought that tribe cd, or wu, or Mos Def, or rakim, or KRS or Big Daddy Kane or whoever it was that he used to label as "wack"...and we remember what it felt like when he finally admitted he was being close minded. And I think most okayplayers want that feeling again from our "friend", Lupe.

As for me, "Midnight marauders" is my favorite Hip Hop CD of all time. You have no idea how many times I played electric relaxation the first time I heard it....but it wasn't 1994...It was 2002, I was late as hell, and it didn't matter. But on the other hand, I'm not losing sleep over it. And anyone who is needs to chill.

But we all listen to the keys on songs like "Sunshine" and wonder what if?

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341. "not no, but hell no."
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342. "RE: Another thought"
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alright haha...any explanation on why I am wrong? It was just a thought, I can't read everybody's mind...

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sha mecca
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343. "you have to remember u were born in 87. most of the people who"
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post here were adults in 87 already.

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I feel that...I was just speaking as someone who didn't grow up on tribe called quest either and saw the light myself.

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sha mecca
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347. "lol i feel you though. i'm just saying be prepared for people to"
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disagree with you 'cause you didn't really put it into perspective.
if you ask people who were grown or at least preteen during that time
their experience with the album is gonna be mad different.

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363. "RE: lol i feel you though. i'm just saying be prepared for people to"
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Nah I understand...I just went back and read my post and it wasn't the exact thought I wanted to get across...I guess I was trying to say, that to me, its not the end of the world that Lupe hadn't heard MM but he reminds me of that annoying friend who has a polar opposite rap taste...I definitely can't describe what the over 25/30/35 feels about this situation with any kind of expertise.

At the end of the day you just got to feel bad for Lupe that he can't experience the Intricate joys of that cd:

-The "See I like to get down Jack" ending.
-The Biz Sample on The Chase pt. 2.
-The double verse of "Sucka N****" ("He say she say" anyone?)
-Q Tip saying "whats up" over and over during Phife's verse on "Keep it Rollin"
-The chick moaning at the start of "Lyrics to Go"
-"And to top it off Starks got ejected"

I could go on...there's so many memorable moments...

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373. "again, no."
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no one cares about lupe's taste or if he's missing out on the seminal moments of a great LP. he's taking pride in his alleged unfamiliarity with a great album because he thinks that reservoir of ignorance proves something about him as an artist and as a person.

  

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376. "RE: again, no."
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I actually think a lot of people care that he's missing out on "Midnight marauders"...I mean its "The Chronic", "Paid in Full" and "Illmatic" all rolled up to the alternative hip hop fan. His attitude about it is just making it worse.

But regardless of what you or I think, 80% of the people here bashing Lupe are mad cause he hasnt listened to "Midnight Marauders"...its that important to people.

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378. "i feel you fam. pause."
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346. "RE: you have to remember u were born in 87. most of the people who"
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349. "these girls are tryna be queens, Lu!!!"
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don't mind em

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360. "i like your music, but ive come to realize your a douchebag"
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364. "maaaaaaaaaan...."
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You niggas sho is silly...

So he doesnt know every word recorded on MM! So what!? Who Gives a fat fuck!? I'll admit it might make for an akward moment on the tribute..but oh well. Im sure Tip is over it..i know dam well Lupe is over this shit already..the apocolypse did not occur just yet so get the fuck over it...

and as for niggas responding harshly to Tay voicing his opinion..

1. He responded to Lu's comments in a respectful fashion with constructive criticism..the same way any friend who gave a fuck would..
2. So he responded on the message board instead of via telephone..and..He responded on the same platform that the original message was given..aint like he said anything out of line on the message board..

so what more do you want for them to do..grovel..go to jail..off themselves like a samurai? Yall aint nothn but some grown ass kids.."HE doesnt like Tribe..Im not his friend Anymore.."
Fuckin pathetic..

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365. "Alright muhfukka, now you've got NO excuse...."
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So what you young and grew up listening to that gangsta shit?

This ain't about your musically deprived childhood in the mean streets of the West Side.

This about you being stubborn...you deliberately not listening to a classic, benchmark album just because some ppl said you *should*.

You're being WILLFULLY ignorant. Classic niggerosity.

Now that's all fine and good, you can be as ignorant as you want to be, but your ignorance has led to you making a huge ass of yourself on Nat'l TV.

I know for damn sure I wouldn't do no 'Pac cover on TV, having never listened to one of his albums. Nor having the desire to do so.

I'ont care if his corpse rose from the grave and asked me himself.

You set yourself up for the L.

  

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366. "i could give a f*ck less (c) SV"
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the man just dropped two incredible singles and is going to put out another great album. if you spend time analyzing all of your favorite artists' opinions, you'll drive yourself insane. Midnight is my favorite album of all time but I could care less if Lupe's heard it or if he has a fixation with discussing it.

  

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368. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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ramadan? so you were slangin heron for allah? that's a ill connect.

for real though, you're a gimmick dog. your whole sound/style was originated by tribe and by you being so outspoken about not being into them just makes you come off as even more of a gimmick.

  

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369. "damn...lol"
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>ramadan? so you were slangin heron for allah? that's a ill
>connect.
>

hahahahahahahahah


>for real though, you're a gimmick dog. your whole sound/style
>was originated by tribe and by you being so outspoken about
>not being into them just makes you come off as even more of a
>gimmick.
>

basically (c) redman

<--- we've got bush!

  

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375. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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be proud of what you do. just dont flaunt this. its not a good look to present to the public.

the other day, i spoke at conference of inter-american diplomats. the way i spoke in retrospect was a little out of line even though i really didnt intend to insult anyone. i absolutely stand by what i said and regardless of how it was presented, my speech was intelegent and well though out. HOWEVER, it took an honest person that was looking out for me to sit down and talk to me. i respect that person that much more because she helped me see an error i made. you cannot present yourself to the public the same way that you talk to your friends and family period.

pegado al teclado

  

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379. "props to Phonte for telling it like it is"
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.....................................

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382. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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this thread makes me undertand why people are pissed at barry bonds

))puts asterisk on lupe's catalog((

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-mommy, renzo was rappin on your record player-

  

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391. "lmfao...."
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>))puts asterisk on lupe's catalog((

  

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385. "All respect due, but didnt you grow up in Maywood for the most part"
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not to put you on blast or anything......

Ive heard this through the grapevine.

Probably not all that relevant in this discussion, but if that is true I find it odd that your trying to capatalize off of the west side hoody-hood when most of your years were spent in Maywood Park, Illinois. (for all non-Chicagoans, Maywood is NOT the hood)

I dont know your full story, but I found it kind of odd when I heard this. (from a very reliable source who I would assume is in the know)


  

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390. "lmao @ ur screenname being 'random fact' & this post"
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www.mybabystayfresh.com

  

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396. "wowwwwwwwwwwwwww (c) flavor flav"
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>not to put you on blast or anything......
>
>Ive heard this through the grapevine.
>
>Probably not all that relevant in this discussion, but if that
>is true I find it odd that your trying to capatalize off of
>the west side hoody-hood when most of your years were spent in
>Maywood Park, Illinois. (for all non-Chicagoans, Maywood is
>NOT the hood)
>
>I dont know your full story, but I found it kind of odd when I
>heard this. (from a very reliable source who I would assume is
>in the know)
>
>
>

<--- we've got bush!

  

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397. "Maywood is hood.I don't know what part you been to,but niggas is"
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grimey there.
>not to put you on blast or anything......
>
>Ive heard this through the grapevine.
>
>Probably not all that relevant in this discussion, but if that
>is true I find it odd that your trying to capatalize off of
>the west side hoody-hood when most of your years were spent in
>Maywood Park, Illinois. (for all non-Chicagoans, Maywood is
>NOT the hood)
>
>I dont know your full story, but I found it kind of odd when I
>heard this. (from a very reliable source who I would assume is
>in the know)
>
>
>

  

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400. "MAYWOOD IS THE Hood (4 Hunnerd!)"
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you not from the chi, homie, obviously. Don't go to maywood. ever. without a pistol.

Jordan!

  

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409. "Maywood IS NOT Madison and Kedzie, my man."
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which is what Lu raps about in regards to his upbringing....not even close.

That strectch of Madison he speaks about is the grimiest in the city.

>you not from the chi, homie, obviously. Don't go to maywood.
>ever. without a pistol.

no, I am.

and lol @ not going to Maywood without a pistol.

cmon.

But shit really isnt even that big of a deal I guess (if true)...rappers do this all the time....just thought it was interesting.


  

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441. "Huh? Maywood IS hood...ha ha."
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If Oak Park and Forest Park weren't there, the west side would continue all the way to Hillside.

https://digife.com

  

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451. "I have friends that stay in Maywood.....its no Madison and Kedzie/ K-Tow..."
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but whatever. dude probably moved when he was young.

the way it was presented to me was like ' yo, Lu should be reppin Maywood rather than that Madison Terrace stuff '

its really doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things though....just thought it was interesting.

  

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B Side
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393. "i don't care that Lupe hasn't listened to MM, but..."
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i just hoped for / expected more from him.

i don't understand why he wouldn't want to make sure to kill that shit even if he doesn't love tribe.

someone who can sign on the okayplayer and post all the time, can surely find the lyrics on google in 5 secs too

  

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405. "i vote the made you look instrumental"
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as the soundtrack of this post...

this shit made my weekend, thanks everybody.

im wondering if this shit was getting alotta spins on the wesside of chi during a harsh breakup of his or a serious incident at the time.

there may be a repressed memory for homeboy somwhere in that album...its a stretch but, either way this post is straight comedy.

im a 87 baby from QUEENS, im telling yall that the tribe shit was only heard....i never remembered seeing tribe, so i thought they looked like other rappers for the most part.

but if i was used to nwa and never heard tribe before, the pill might be a bit hard to swallow if the first exposure to them came in video form with the various boho imagery (i dunno for sure if tribe had alotta boho shit goin on in they videos...like i said i dont remember seeing tribe videos)

  

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496. "Thats because you were 6 years old when MM was released fam..."
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Of course you don't remember.

<----------------------------------------
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398. "theres almost 400 replies!"
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theres almost 400 replies. wow.






*sprinkle coke on this post make it drug related*
http://www.lessondaryradio.blogspot.com
<--my kanye face

  

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ado420
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402. "I hope, one day, you do something that warrants this much attention"
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You have the power.


You can do it!!

  

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411. "Sheeeit, if this is all it takes I'm bout to fumble through "Award Tour"..."
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...and post it on YouTube.

Yeeesh.

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406. "RE: theres almost 400 replies!"
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406 - and i refuse to aknoledge or read the other 4 hunnit five



>theres almost 400 replies. wow.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>*sprinkle coke on this post make it drug related*
>http://www.lessondaryradio.blogspot.com
>><--my kanye face

http://www.twitter.com/ohsokool

holler back negroes.

  

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413. "Von, lets hear your opinion if you're going to post in here..."
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450. "well"
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i think kanye and pharrell should shelve CRS until he can recite the whole marauders album. lol

honestly i dont have a major opinion other than this being such a big deal is silly. its interesting how the rap gods caught up with him and that should say something. it was just some okayplayer shit when he said he didnt fuck with midnight marauders, but now its on vh1 IN FRONT OF TRIBE on tv for everyone to see! isnt that kind of ironic? i think he should just listen to it. if its such a big deal to everyone, then listen to it, digest it. hes on planes a lot, throw the album on and fuck with it. its only like 51 minutes.

thats my full opinion...




*sprinkle coke on this post make it drug related*
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403. "Effin' Eff-up indeed..."
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i ain't mad at you man- this too shall pass...

-but the sum total of this whole transaction=Mr.Bungle (and i ain't talkin' about MP)

What you see as porn someone else sees as Da Vinci... It's the eye of the beholder. We can only assess that. What makes your music beyond porn? Again, Eye of the Beholder.
-jeflee, to AFKAP sparring with Coolidge

Viking (Sex) Ship: *splork*

  

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410. "What a mess"
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n/m

  

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415. "RE: What a mess"
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straight trainwreck

i am LOVIN this shit hahahahahahahahahahahaha

SMH @ lupe

  

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414. "GrandStyleZ Hack Into Your Account?"
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_______________________________________

<<progressions.

  

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416. "i don't think this post ever got a chance to touch the second page."
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420. "RE: i don't think this post ever got a chance to touch the second page."
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i think alot of the (insert okartist) ethered himself posts are like that because they get such high traffic...

perhaps we all bit the bait, and he is at home bumping mm wearing a dash-eek-e on some "i flatly declined/i aint dumb down nothing"

but wether haight or praise, its all about lu

  

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422. "Lu, see post 201."
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will still be coppin The Cool, but what he said was truth and nothing but it. just recognize your errs and move on. yeah, most okp'ers won't let it go, but whatever. keep doing you, but know when you're wrong. this ain't no trial - no need to defend yourself.

_______________________________________

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425. "i was here..."
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@}-,-`-

"The guy who takes a chance, who walks the line between the known and unknown, who is unafraid of failure, will succeed." - Gordon Parks

  

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427. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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No I can't get mad at Lupe for not growing up with Tribe's music. People want to always put people in a category. Also truly what is the definition of backpack music and who are back packers. I know but the people who are always using that term and putting rap groups or indivdiuls in that box, do they really know. I hate the term as well. The only term I still love and if I had to put a label on a type of artist, I would use the term Native Toungue better than that Conscious . I would put artist like Lupe,Common,Talib Kweli, Jean Grae, Little Brother, Black Spade, under that label. These are artist that are clever with words and use history and current events to tell a story and not always focusing on the negitive and what's always wrong with the hood, but write the positive as well as write about solutions. These artist make you think and Lupe does that with his music. He is a little brother of Tribe, Jungle Brothers, and De La Soul and it's okay if he did not grow up listening to the music, but we see those groups in him and it's up to us to educate and share that music with him. It can only make him better than what he already is. Let's lift one another up and not continue to kick the the man below us down the ladder.

  

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430. "and right now, aspiring rappers are claiming they don't bump your music"
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because somebody might think they're soft (no Lupo)

I guess the difference is that they're probably not pretending

  

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435. "LMFAO!!!!"
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*DEAD*

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457. "^^aight....shits outta hand.."
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even tho money brought it on himself.

  

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461. "RE: and right now, aspiring rappers are claiming they don't bump your mu..."
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the person you guys should be upset with is Q-tip why invite some one to honor you if he dont GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR RECORDS....THAT IS THE MOST humorous shit...I have heard in years.

all lupe had to do was apologize like a man...yet he said statements that made him come off like a "DICK".

  

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472. "i don't know if he's a 'friend' maybe he expected more of his 'friend'?"
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www.mybabystayfresh.com

  

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439. "This shit is silly"
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funny how "rapper not wanting to listen to great hip hop album>>>(gets more reaction than)>>>>r&b singer pissing on 14 year old girl, rapper having baby with 13 yr old girl at mother's request,etc.

This shit is hilarious; thanks to all who have made my day.

  

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Hardkore
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456. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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check out the album lupe you ain't got nothing to lose

"On the internet they like you should spit it
I'm like you should buy it nigga that's good business"

  

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463. "when did this place turn into GD? lol"
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just looking at some of the comments here.

Lupe, give MM a listen.

You'll like it (c) Mikey's friend

  

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468. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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>So I've explained this to a lot of people...let me name drop
>a few:
>
>#1 Fab 5 Freddy
>#2 Q-TIP!!!!...THAT'S RIGHT THE LEADER OF THE GROUP
>HIMSELF!!!
>#3 Common
>#4 Questlove
>
>and more....ahem....
>
>"I DID NOT GROW UP ON ATCQ!!!..."
>
>THE LITTLE GHETTO KID FROM THE MEAN STREETS OF THE WESTSIDE OF
>CHICAGO GREW UP ON SPICE 1, 8-BALL & MJG, NWA AND SNOOP
>DOGG...
>
>I WASNT A BACKPACKER RAP ENTHUSIAST!!!...I NEVER CLAIMED TO
>BE...I GREW UP ON GANGSTA RAP!!!
>
>HAVE I LISTENED TO MM IN ITS ENTIRETY?...NO!!!...(Sorry
>Quest)...
>
>GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND YOUR SACRED COWS...SOME OF YA'LL
>MAKE ME SICK...
>
>AND FYI WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY OFFERED TO ME I TURNED IT DOWN
>BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO BE HONORING THEM
>BECAUSE WHILE I WAS FULLY AWARE OF THEIR IMPACT IN HIP-HOP I
>WASNT REALLY AWARE OF THEIR MUSIC LIKE THAT...BUT GUESS WHO
>WANTED ME TO BE APART OF IT....HMMMM...HOW
>ABOUT...Q-TIP!!!...
>
>SO NOW ARE YOU GOING TO HATE ON "ATCQ" BECAUSE THEY WANTED
>SOMEBODY WHO DIDNT REALLY KNOW THERE MUSIC TO HONOR THEM BY
>COVERING SOME OF THEIR MUSIC?...THINK ON THAT OKP'S
>
>P.S. I FORGET THE WORDS TO SOME OF MY OWN SONGS ON STAGE...HEY
>IT HAPPENS...
>
>
>THE COOL DEC. 18TH...
>
>"SUPERSTAR"
>A HYPE WILLIAMS PRODUCTION
>COMING SOON

This shit is straight up embarrassing no matter how you want to try and front. ATCQ & De La Soul are the forefathers of your whole style so you need to go cop MM at your local Best Buy, shit I'll burn you a copy of my OG MM that I copped the day it dropped (still mint condition).

Show some damn RESPECT.

Jan 19, 2006 7:19 AM
i will officially say that this man is the GREATEST mind to EVER make beats---PERIOD!-Questlove!(Taken from J Dilla's myspace comments)
"Ahmir is stupid with the drums man..."-J Dilla
"All I know how to do is work the mpc..."-J Dilla

  

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469. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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This is bad comedy.

www.thekoshow.com
www.k-otix.com
http://www.myspace.com/thelegendarykokotix
www.rappersiknow.com
www.ethosmusicgroup.com/mp3player.swf

  

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473. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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"i'm a backpacker and I bitch a lot"

OKP's are so sensitive!



Lupe ur shit is tight!
Q-Tip ur shit is tight too!


____________________________________
hip-hop hip-hop u da Luv of ma life.

  

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471. "i missed the school bus"
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zanetate
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477. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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Co-signin with Phonte.



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Lil Roof
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Mon Oct-08-07 07:26 PM

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479. "this is great! lol your goin in on these herbs without even trying or"
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caring



consider the cool copped good Sir









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482. "."
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i was here.

  

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483. "this post is tragic..."
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chicity
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Mon Oct-08-07 08:43 PM

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486. "RE: ...Becuz Q-Tip Is My Friend And He Asked Me To..."
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yup... i knew this not mad at ya either... being from the CHI i understand what you grow up on....

and... cool halloween...nov. 20....dec..18...

damn labels....


hopefully they dont push it back till 08...


Thanks LU

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RS
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Mon Oct-08-07 08:53 PM

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487. "No Big Deal"
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I only listened to like 3 songs on F&L....but I still bump that MM straight thru......

  

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The Duke
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Mon Oct-08-07 09:50 PM

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495. "RE: No Big Deal"
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After scrolling for what seemed to be forever, I'm willing to send my iPod with MM on it to Lupe via Canada Post Xpresspost just to end the e-drama created on this massive thread.

  

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ansomble
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Mon Oct-08-07 09:20 PM

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489. "Just go listen to the fuckin album nigga damn,"
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Silly fuckin niggas and they silly shit.

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Apollo Kid
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Mon Oct-08-07 09:28 PM

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491. "damn.. how is this still going strong?"
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gluvnast
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Mon Oct-08-07 09:47 PM

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494. "i know, right..and the fuck up was hardly noticeable"
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Mon Oct-08-07 09:48 PM by gluvnast

          

just exposing some emotional bitchez....lupe started listening to rap around the late 90's or the bling era...so it's not that implausible if the only songs he heard from ATCQ were songs that were already put on on videos...

why people just accept the fact the reason he makes the music he makes because THAT'S where his mentality is at right now, and NOT because of who he was influenced by???

  

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Apollo Kid
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497. "the only people who are going hard in this thread are..."
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phonte dickeaters or lupe haters. is it that serious?

shut the fuck up. all of you niggas sound like bitches.

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Phabel
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Mon Oct-08-07 10:22 PM

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498. "QUIT BEING A FUCKING BABY AND LISTEN TO THE GOD DAMN ALBUM"
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This shit is ridiculous. What a childish little fucknut Lupe is. At first I could not have given a fuck if Lupe or any other man had listened to MM. But dude acts like he is going to win a golden ostrich egg if he successfully makes it though life without hearing this album. Shit makes you look weak and like you have something to prove. Like you have to prove you are gangsta enough to have foregone ATCQ. It's great and all that you grew up on gangsta rap....go make a fucking gangsta rap album then. See how well you go over with that crowd. Until then, quit acting like a little boy and play the album in the fucking background or something.

  

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Vid Santoro
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499. "i wanna see someone say that shit about a kanye album"
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the mele would be instant classic.

i know its fucked up, but personal opinion is just that...sometimes you gotta let shit ride, clearly homey is having a laugh at us.

maybe opening a door for someone means risking getting trampled over by the asshole who passes through it.

but i WILL cop the cool, i leave the music outta this

  

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Nopayne
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Mon Oct-08-07 10:36 PM

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500. "Damn. If you could sell albums like posts you'd be running shit"
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502. "This post pushed more units than Game Theory"
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sorry lol.
wouldn't be a classic OKP post without a Roots snark comment.

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Inspired
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503. "and even after all of this, the show was still hot...including his perfo..."
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LOL!!!

Hate me now.

  

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