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"2021 NBA Draft Lottery - ESPN, 7:30pm (cst) "


          


Bulls need to move up to the top 4, or the pick goes to the Magic.
If we lose this pick, it will be more moonwalking to the basement
of the league.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
league bout to hook the Pelicans up again lol
Jun 22nd 2021
1
AK's job will be harder for sure.
Jun 22nd 2021
2
Management worse than GarPax!
Jun 22nd 2021
3
you got an "All-Star" center lol
Jun 22nd 2021
7
      why the all star in quotes?
Jun 22nd 2021
11
           Sabonis (triple double machine),
Jun 22nd 2021
13
           i'll take 2-3 more years of 20 & 10 Vuc and trust the new mangement
Jun 22nd 2021
14
                RE: i'll take 2-3 more years of 20 & 10 Vuc and trust the new mangement
Jun 22nd 2021
15
                     Is the 8th pick better than Vucevic?
Jun 23rd 2021
22
                          You’re bugging. Draft is way deeper for the first round.
Jun 23rd 2021
26
                          Ha.
Jun 23rd 2021
29
                               I still got love for you, bro.
Jun 23rd 2021
31
                          Short term, absolutely not. But they have higher upside.
Jun 23rd 2021
48
                               Bulls are trying to win now.
Jun 23rd 2021
57
                                    Cause This is Thriller...
Jun 23rd 2021
70
                                    Well, I wish the Bulls good luck.
Jun 23rd 2021
77
           how many wins did he get you?
Jun 22nd 2021
16
                i don't expect anyone to follow the bulls, but zach missed 2+ weeks
Jun 23rd 2021
18
                     he was traded from a team with one of the worst records in the league...
Jun 23rd 2021
21
well shit. that really happened.
Jun 22nd 2021
4
Picks 6, 16 and 18…
Jun 22nd 2021
5
Presti is on the Ainge clock...
Jun 22nd 2021
6
      right at some point you gotta shit or get off the pot
Jun 22nd 2021
9
           What you mean? This is just the second draft since the PG trade.
Jun 23rd 2021
44
                what year does OKC plan on putting a competitive team on the court?
Jun 23rd 2021
46
                     He just started accumulating the picks, with the PG deal…
Jun 23rd 2021
47
                          I hear you, but drafting 3 MVP'S 3 years in a row was a lifetime of luck...
Jun 23rd 2021
49
                          Who’s saying this, though?
Jun 23rd 2021
54
                          lol, right. The Poku pick shows clearly OKC’s timeline.
Jun 23rd 2021
51
                               Yep…every so often he’d do something…
Jun 23rd 2021
55
DEEEEEETROIT BASKETBALLLLLLLLL
Jun 22nd 2021
8
the Cavs get #3.
Jun 22nd 2021
10
Gotta think it’ll be Green.
Jun 23rd 2021
53
Warriors with the #7 and #14
Jun 22nd 2021
12
it finally fuckin happened.
Jun 23rd 2021
17
Cade is better than Emoni.
Jun 23rd 2021
25
      Everyone loves a good coming home/staying home story
Jun 23rd 2021
27
RE: 2021 NBA Draft Lottery - ESPN, 7:30pm (cst)
Jun 23rd 2021
19
Barnes is not going 3rd
Jun 23rd 2021
20
      I tend to agree… but it’s not impossible.
Jun 23rd 2021
24
           he's a broke man's Ben Simmons
Jun 23rd 2021
33
                He is from FSU
Jun 23rd 2021
43
                That’s definitely his downside.
Jun 23rd 2021
50
Still can’t believe we let Christian Wood go for a bag of dildos
Jun 23rd 2021
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RE: Still can’t believe we let Christian Wood go for a bag of dildos
Jun 23rd 2021
34
      All that is fine, but at least sign and trade for players/picks
Jun 23rd 2021
45
           RE: All that is fine, but at least sign and trade for players/picks
Jun 24th 2021
84
                U right , I completely forgot about that.. but it’s still a paltry ret...
Jun 24th 2021
85
                     RE: U right , I completely forgot about that.. but it’s still a paltry...
Jun 24th 2021
90
Pistons got a nice super young core
Jun 23rd 2021
28
all those guys will be due for new contracts before they develop into...
Jun 23rd 2021
30
RE: all those guys will be due for new contracts before they develop int...
Jun 23rd 2021
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you're right, Casey will develop them then will be fired for a white...
Jun 23rd 2021
35
RE: you're right, Casey will develop them then will be fired for a white...
Jun 23rd 2021
37
      exactly...
Jun 23rd 2021
39
I agree. I think Killian will get traded.
Jun 23rd 2021
38
You mean like the Hawks are now?
Jun 23rd 2021
36
did the Hawks draft Capela, Bogdanovic, Gallinari and Lou Williams?
Jun 23rd 2021
40
      My bad... I forgot the part where we said they shouldn't partcipate...
Jun 23rd 2021
41
           because guys are lining up to go to Detroit...
Jun 23rd 2021
42
                because guys are lining up to go to Atlanta….
Jun 23rd 2021
56
                     no, he honestly doesnt.
Jun 23rd 2021
58
                     Lol... you're right
Jun 23rd 2021
72
                     given the choice, which one do you think they are choosing?
Jun 23rd 2021
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What's your conclusion from that statement?
Jun 23rd 2021
52
      the point is nobody is building a contender from a "young core"...
Jun 23rd 2021
60
           RE: the point is nobody is building a contender from a "young core"...
Jun 23rd 2021
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                if they trade their young core for star players, then they built off it.
Jun 23rd 2021
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                RE: if they trade their young core for star players, then they built off...
Jun 23rd 2021
63
                     KD was a sign and trade, and traded Levert/Allen/others for Harden
Jun 23rd 2021
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                          I know you've been dying to get in on this but stick to college sports.
Jun 23rd 2021
65
                               You were dumb loud and wrong as usual. And now youre deflecting
Jun 23rd 2021
66
                                    okayplayer. n/m
Jun 23rd 2021
67
                                    I see your white flag. Have a nice day.
Jun 23rd 2021
68
                                         lol well i guess thats settled
Jun 23rd 2021
69
                                              I doubt it, Woj / Shams could tell him the same thing and he'd argue
Jun 23rd 2021
80
                                                   you still don't understand how NBA free agency works, do you?
Jun 23rd 2021
81
                                                        Posts 58 and 72
Jun 24th 2021
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                                                             85
Jun 24th 2021
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                                                                  the intellectual OKPs in this thread highlighted how obtuse you are.
Jun 24th 2021
88
                                                                       ??
Jun 24th 2021
89
                                    He told you to stick to college sports... what type of Laura Ingraham bs
Jun 23rd 2021
73
                                         Oh the college guys are teaming up, cute
Jun 23rd 2021
75
                                         imagine if he was a moderator here..*shudder*
Jun 23rd 2021
76
                                              lol
Jun 23rd 2021
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                                              Kill Y- wait, my screen name has too many vowels to get away with that s...
Jun 23rd 2021
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                My "crying"?
Jun 23rd 2021
82
Grant isn’t old either
Jun 23rd 2021
71
I know. But I'm talking the babies.
Jun 23rd 2021
74
it's the most exciting the pistons have been in 15 years
Jun 23rd 2021
79
      I'm with it. I'm happy for you guys.
Jun 26th 2021
91

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1. "league bout to hook the Pelicans up again lol"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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2. "AK's job will be harder for sure."
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>If we lose this pick, it will be more moonwalking to the
>basement
>of the league.

Outside of LaVine and Vucevic, I don't expect to see the same roster this fall.
If we're going to lure someone in 2022 free agency, we'll need to make the playoffs.

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allStah
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3. "Management worse than GarPax!"
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This draft is deep as fock and we are ass’d out!

Present is focked and future is focked...

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7. "you got an "All-Star" center lol"
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11. "why the all star in quotes?"
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he averaged 23 & 11 last year. not many centers come close to those numbers.

aside from embiid, name two better centers than him in the east.

  

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13. "Sabonis (triple double machine),"
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Tue Jun-22-21 10:37 PM by allStah

          

Bam.

You see how easy that was?

Management focked up. They mortgaged the Bulls’ future to chase
a stupid ass play-in tourney, knowing the team lacked the ability
to compete beyond that.

This draft will produce a lot of generational talent, and we are going
to miss out on getting a future superstar....all for a bum ass, aging center.
I know you don’t keep up with college ball, so you’re not aware
of the insane talent that will be coming out.

We lose a top ten focking pick!!

There is shit about our roster that says championship in the next 5
years.....




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14. "i'll take 2-3 more years of 20 & 10 Vuc and trust the new mangement"
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to get creative.

they knew there was a good chance they were giving up this type of pick when the trade happened. with zach, vuc and a coach with some credibility we may actually be able to get a free agent to pick up the phone.

i'm not really into this get the 7/8th pick and rebuild for eternity thing we've been doing since derrick. and it's not like we've been killing it with the mid/late lottery pick. yeah i don't watch college ball but i know enough to understand there it's a crapshoot outside of the top 3-4 picks.

  

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15. "RE: i'll take 2-3 more years of 20 & 10 Vuc and trust the new mangement"
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Ball
Mitchell
Luka
Young
Booker
Tatum



Guess where they came from?

First round draft!

Where did we get Rose from? First round Draft!

Where did where get Jordan and Pippen from? First round draft!


Would you like for me to continue?

2 to 3 years...Lavine and Vucevic?

I wish I were into drinking and smoking, I would join you,
because you’re high as fock.

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22. "Is the 8th pick better than Vucevic?"
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Mock drafts list these players at 7-9.

7. Keon Johnson (Tennessee)
8. Franz Wagner (Michigan)
9. Jalen Johnson (Duke)

You think LaVine and any one of these players are catapulting the Bulls to a better record?

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26. "You’re bugging. Draft is way deeper for the first round."
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Wed Jun-23-21 09:49 AM by allStah

          

Possible generational talent.

James Bouknight
(Could fall to 8) Scotty Barnes- could be the next pippen..and he is from FSU
same as Terrance Mann and Patrick Williams...
Moses Moody - one of the best freshman in college last year.
Ayo Dosunmu - Dwayne Wade/ Jimmy Butler type player...

That’s the beauty of the draft, the opportunity to get an enormously
talented player.

Orlando is rebuilding just like we are, and they dumped this so called great center
for a first round pick....so yeah that 8th pick is way better.

Stop making excuses for how management focked us in their first season
in charge....didn’t take them long.

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29. "Ha."
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>Possible generational talent.

> could be the next pippen..and

A whole lotta "could be" and "possibles".

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31. "I still got love for you, bro. "
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It is what is.

Let’s just sit back and root for our neighbors...it will be another
sad decade.

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48. "Short term, absolutely not. But they have higher upside."
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Vuc is a very safe pick to produce, and he’ll easily produce more than what any of those dudes will next year and the year after. That said, I do think it’s fair to be concerned that LaVine and Vuc is an upside-7-seed-at-most kind of core, because neither guy is good on defense, and Vuc would be a defensive liability come playoffs when switching is the name of the game against most of the better teams.

So it all depends. If their goal is to win more in the next 1-2 years, I think Vuc is easily the better choice. But if their goal is to ultimately return to true contention? … yeah, I don’t know what the answer is, other than straight up blow it up. Or hope for some *serious* talent development from the staff and roster.

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57. "Bulls are trying to win now."
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>So it all depends. If their goal is to win more in the next
>1-2 years, I think Vuc is easily the better choice. But if
>their goal is to ultimately return to true contention? …
>yeah, I don’t know what the answer is, other than straight
>up blow it up. Or hope for some *serious* talent development
>from the staff and roster.

Karnisovas has said as much to the media.

I think the aggressive move to trade for Vucevic was to show LaVine (a player they want to resign) that they're serious about making the Bulls relevant again and changing the culture. Vucevic is at the tail end of his prime, LaVine is arguably there now. Those guys aren't gonna wait for a lottery pick to figure it out. The front office has chosen their core and they want to compete now.

Bulls fans have been conditioned (me included) to live and die by the draft.
What I'm learning is that depending on luck is not a plan.

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70. "Cause This is Thriller..."
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Wed Jun-23-21 05:49 PM by allStah

          

Thriller Night....and no one is going to save you from the
beast that’s about to strike”.

“This is Thriller....thriller night”

*moonwalks to the NBA basement*

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77. "Well, I wish the Bulls good luck."
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>Bulls fans have been conditioned (me included) to live and die
>by the draft.
>What I'm learning is that depending on luck is not a plan.

I definitely get signing Vuc to convince LaVine to resign. I'm... less convinced that they make a contention-level core together in terms of both style of offense and lack of defense, but hey, I think Billy's a hell of a coach. Having a strong coach that can figure out how to develop young players and build schemes around existing talent is a good start.

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16. "how many wins did he get you?"
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>he averaged 23 & 11 last year. not many centers come close to
>those numbers.
>
>aside from embiid, name two better centers than him in the
>east.
>
>

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18. "i don't expect anyone to follow the bulls, but zach missed 2+ weeks"
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he went into protocol a few games after the trade went down.

the overall record with vuc means nothing.

  

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21. "he was traded from a team with one of the worst records in the league..."
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I'm sorry but in my book "All-Star center" and worst record in the league don't go together.

Vuc puts up stats but he is not a winner.

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4. "well shit. that really happened."
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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5. "Picks 6, 16 and 18…"
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Sam, GET TROY ON THE PHONE!!

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6. "Presti is on the Ainge clock..."
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...if he doesn't do anything with those picks.

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9. "right at some point you gotta shit or get off the pot"
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44. "What you mean? This is just the second draft since the PG trade."
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46. "what year does OKC plan on putting a competitive team on the court?"
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and last season with Chris Paul was an accident, Presti was looking to move him before they started winning

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47. "He just started accumulating the picks, with the PG deal…"
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there was the 2020 draft, which none of those picks applied and now next months draft. You said shit or get off the pot, he hasn’t had a chance to get on the pot yet.

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49. "I hear you, but drafting 3 MVP'S 3 years in a row was a lifetime of luck..."
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and they will never seen anything close to that again and to pretend otherwise is foolish

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54. "Who’s saying this, though? "
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I can’t imagine anyone who thinks that? Is there a person in this draft as good as KD at Texas? You still wanna pick the best you can of who’s available, though. There was a chance we could have come out of last night with #1 and #5 picks…ping pong balls didn’t fall our way, though. I still think there’s something coming with those three picks we have and I don’t expect Kemba to suit up as a Thunder.

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51. "lol, right. The Poku pick shows clearly OKC’s timeline."
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When they drafted a guy who’s absolutely another 2-3 years away from showing his potential, that’s them telling the fans “hey, we’re going for the home run swing in 2025, we’re not content to languish around the 6-8 seed anymore.” I respect the bravado. (And I love Poku. Once he learns how to play basketball and not just be a ball of raw talent, he’s gonna be even more fun to watch than he is now.)

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55. "Yep…every so often he’d do something…"
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where you’re like “damn, he’s got that?” But, he’s raw as hell.

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8. "DEEEEEETROIT BASKETBALLLLLLLLL"
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10. "the Cavs get #3."
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not bad. Wish it were #2 or #1 so there isn't any uncertainty.
Really wanted Cade.
But it could be Mobley (which would be cool)
or Green. Means that "Greenland" might end up being a thing and that the Cavs get a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card for the KPJ trade.

Either way it ensures a good player coming to the Cavs.

I think Suggs goes to Toronto, which would be dope.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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53. "Gotta think it’ll be Green."
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12. "Warriors with the #7 and #14"
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Good. Draft some more young and athletic talent.

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17. "it finally fuckin happened."
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probably means no chance at emoni, but I like Cade a lot.


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25. "Cade is better than Emoni."
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27. "Everyone loves a good coming home/staying home story"
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when Juwon Howard wins a championship ( edit I will die of jealousy too, I'm just letting you all know now, I have no problem admitting it) he will be able to run for Mayor, Governor, whatever and win hands down.

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19. "RE: 2021 NBA Draft Lottery - ESPN, 7:30pm (cst) "
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Detroit - Cade
Houston - Mobley
Cle - Scotty Barnes
Toronto - Jalen Suggs/Jaylen Green
Orlando - Jaylen Green/Jalen Suggs

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20. "Barnes is not going 3rd"
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24. "I tend to agree… but it’s not impossible."
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I’d say 85% likely it’s Green, 15% likely it’s Barnes. If you think you can get Barnes to be even an NBA average shooter, then he *could* have higher upside than Green. I think that’s a big dice roll, personally, but I’ve seen more than one person who thinks Barnes is a #3 type guy.

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33. "he's a broke man's Ben Simmons"
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43. "He is from FSU"
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That’s not going to happen.

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50. "That’s definitely his downside."
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But considering if you took Ben Simmons and had him shoot NBA average percentages from the 3PT and FT line, he’d be a stone cold certified All-Star, it’s easy to see why a team would get seduced by Barnes if they think he could one day shoot at the NBA average.

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23. "Still can’t believe we let Christian Wood go for a bag of dildos"
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Welcome to Detroit , Cade.


>
>Bulls need to move up to the top 4, or the pick goes to the
>Magic.
>If we lose this pick, it will be more moonwalking to the
>basement
>of the league.
>
>

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34. "RE: Still can’t believe we let Christian Wood go for a bag of dildos"
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He didn't fit the culture and everything Weaver has done up to this point has been about reestablishing a culture there while adding talent at the same time.

Clearly they didn't value Wood from that point of view versus what they did instead which was draft Isaiah Stewart and sign Jerami Grant.

I'm fine with what they did instead.

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45. "All that is fine, but at least sign and trade for players/picks"
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You don't let a guy walk away and end up with nothing.


>He didn't fit the culture and everything Weaver has done up
>to this point has been about reestablishing a culture there
>while adding talent at the same time.
>
>Clearly they didn't value Wood from that point of view versus
>what they did instead which was draft Isaiah Stewart and sign
>Jerami Grant.
>
>I'm fine with what they did instead.

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84. "RE: All that is fine, but at least sign and trade for players/picks"
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They did sign and trade Wood. They got back the 16th pick which they used on Stewart.

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85. "U right , I completely forgot about that.. but it’s still a paltry ret..."
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>They did sign and trade Wood. They got back the 16th pick
>which they used on Stewart.

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90. "RE: U right , I completely forgot about that.. but it’s still a paltry..."
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Not when you consider the position the Pistons were in. They didn't have much leverage. The rest of the league was fairly skeptical too considering what the Rockets got Wood for. So the options were limited.

Blake was still on the roster and Weaver had already made his mind up that he wanted Jerami Grant to run with this young core and not Wood. I don't blame Weaver AT ALL for that cause he knew Grant and didn't know Wood at all. If I'm a GM coming in I'm betting on the guy I know and trust.

That's also a little too much talent for a tank. Granted Wood ended up on the team that got the second pick and could have just as easily gotten the first.

I was fine with it right when it happened and am really fine with it now because Stewart fits better with this group than Wood would have. He would have wanted to be the #1 option. Which is fine. He can do that in Houston.

It's a win win.

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28. "Pistons got a nice super young core"
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Cade
Saadiq
Stewart
Sekou
Killian

if they resign Hami

That's some versatility.

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30. "all those guys will be due for new contracts before they develop into..."
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what people THINK they will be

>Cade
>Saadiq
>Stewart
>Sekou
>Killian
>
>if they resign Hami
>
>That's some versatility.

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32. "RE: all those guys will be due for new contracts before they develop int..."
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It will work itself out. It's never a problem to have that much young talent together no matter how impatient the rest of the league is and fans are. The Pistons aren't in the position to be the Lakers, Brooklyn or Miami. They have to be shrewd and build this. Troy has shown to be a great GM so far and as long as ownership leaves him the fuck alone this should grow naturally into something really great.

They have the right coach for now in Casey. We'll see in a few years if it works once the team matures.

I think in the long run Killian will be traded and Sekou will be as well.

The real core here is Cade, Bey and Stewart and you fill the rest out with trades and a nice FA signing or two. So realistically it will take about 2 to 3 years to come together.

In the meantime Grant is still a nice piece and will only be 29/30 at the time.

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35. "you're right, Casey will develop them then will be fired for a white..."
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coach once they are ready to be competitive

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37. "RE: you're right, Casey will develop them then will be fired for a white..."
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I'd like to think they won't do him like Toronto did but you never know. They fired Casey and then got Kawhi and tried to act like that shit had anything to do with Nick Nurse.

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39. "exactly..."
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>I'd like to think they won't do him like Toronto did but you
>never know. They fired Casey and then got Kawhi and tried to
>act like that shit had anything to do with Nick Nurse.

AND Lebron left the Eastern Conference.

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38. "I agree. I think Killian will get traded."
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Sekou is soooooooo freaking young that I think he can be the true wildcard in the bunch.

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36. "You mean like the Hawks are now? "
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40. "did the Hawks draft Capela, Bogdanovic, Gallinari and Lou Williams?"
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41. "My bad... I forgot the part where we said they shouldn't partcipate..."
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in free agency or trades.

You right dogg.... you right... smh

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42. "because guys are lining up to go to Detroit..."
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>in free agency or trades.


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56. "because guys are lining up to go to Atlanta…."
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See how this works?

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58. "no, he honestly doesnt."
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72. "Lol... you're right"
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59. "given the choice, which one do you think they are choosing?"
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52. "What's your conclusion from that statement?"
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"all those guys will be due for new contracts before they develop into what people THINK they will be"

That's an odd point, considering that's a dilemma faced by any young team, and the fact that teams are nearly always in some state of flux.

  

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60. "the point is nobody is building a contender from a "young core"..."
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>"all those guys will be due for new contracts before they
>develop into what people THINK they will be"
>
>That's an odd point, considering that's a dilemma faced by any
>young team, and the fact that teams are nearly always in some
>state of flux. crying the
in today's NBA. Despite your

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61. "RE: the point is nobody is building a contender from a "young core"..."
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>>"all those guys will be due for new contracts before they
>>develop into what people THINK they will be"
>>
>>That's an odd point, considering that's a dilemma faced by
>any
>>young team, and the fact that teams are nearly always in
>some
>>state of flux.

in today's NBA.

Despite your crying there's a reason the Lakers traded their "young core" for Anthony Davis and they got a ring out of it.

Steph Curry's ankles are the only reason they were able to build that team they way they did and before that came together they tried to trade Curry AND Klay for CP3 but the trade fell through.

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62. "if they trade their young core for star players, then they built off it."
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just like the Nets did.

you're tired. go take a nap. you're not making sense anymore.



>>>"all those guys will be due for new contracts before they
>>>develop into what people THINK they will be"
>>>
>>>That's an odd point, considering that's a dilemma faced by
>>any
>>>young team, and the fact that teams are nearly always in
>>some
>>>state of flux.
>
>in today's NBA.
>
>Despite your crying there's a reason the Lakers traded their
>"young core" for Anthony Davis and they got a ring out of it.
>
>Steph Curry's ankles are the only reason they were able to
>build that team they way they did and before that came
>together they tried to trade Curry AND Klay for CP3 but the
>trade fell through.
>

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63. "RE: if they trade their young core for star players, then they built off..."
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>just like the Nets did.


The Nets signed Kyrie and KD as free agents.

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64. "KD was a sign and trade, and traded Levert/Allen/others for Harden"
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>The Nets signed Kyrie and KD as free agents.

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65. "I know you've been dying to get in on this but stick to college sports."
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66. "You were dumb loud and wrong as usual. And now youre deflecting"
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Lol I love doing this to you.




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67. "okayplayer. n/m"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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68. "I see your white flag. Have a nice day. "
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https://www.nba.com/news/reports-nets-acquire-james-harden-trade

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/07/nets-warriors-complete-durant-russell-sign-and-trade.html

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69. "lol well i guess thats settled"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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80. "I doubt it, Woj / Shams could tell him the same thing and he'd argue"
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81. "you still don't understand how NBA free agency works, do you?"
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86. "Posts 58 and 72"
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You’re more terrified of admitting you’re wrong and made a mistake than Ben Simmons taking a jump shot.

That’s sad.

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87. "85"
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88. "the intellectual OKPs in this thread highlighted how obtuse you are."
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that's all I need

have a good day.

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89. "??"
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73. "He told you to stick to college sports... what type of Laura Ingraham bs"
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... has been going on in OKS for the past year and a half?

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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75. "Oh the college guys are teaming up, cute"
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76. "imagine if he was a moderator here..*shudder*"
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78. "lol"
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83. "Kill Y- wait, my screen name has too many vowels to get away with that s..."
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82. "My "crying"? "
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>>>"all those guys will be due for new contracts before they
>>>develop into what people THINK they will be"
>>>
>>>That's an odd point, considering that's a dilemma faced by
>>any
>>>young team, and the fact that teams are nearly always in
>>some
>>>state of flux.
>
>in today's NBA.
>
>Despite your crying

"Crying"?

You mean... Liking players, wanting to see them grow with the feanchise, being bummed that they had to go, seeing potential issues down the line (coughinjuriescough) and understanding why?

Please. Take a break from being a buffoon some time.

>there's a reason the Lakers traded their
>"young core" for Anthony Davis and they got a ring out of it.

No shit. I'm still waiting on an answer to my very simple question.

How did the Lakers get Anthony Davis, exactly?

Oh yeah: you just said it.

It's weird, because it completely undermines whatever point you thought you were making.

>Steph Curry's ankles are the only reason they were able to
>build that team they way they did and before that came
>together they tried to trade Curry AND Klay for CP3 but the
>trade fell through.

Not sure what that has to do with anything I said.

  

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71. "Grant isn’t old either"
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74. "I know. But I'm talking the babies. "
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79. "it's the most exciting the pistons have been in 15 years"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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91. "I'm with it. I'm happy for you guys."
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As a fan of the Sheed/Rip teams, the Pistons arena used to be rocking.

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