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Basaglia
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"No NBA player will average 20 and 10 for the first time in history"


  

          

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/03/30/warner-nba-will-be-without-a-20-10-big-man-for-first-time/

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my boy was talking about that yesterday.
Apr 01st 2013
1
I hate Howard for many of the same reasons, however he wasn't
Apr 01st 2013
2
this shit is ALL griffin
Apr 01st 2013
16
      yeah, Blake averages 20/10 for his career, yet at age 24 coming up short
Apr 01st 2013
19
      blake is all empty stats and commercials and can't even get that right
Apr 01st 2013
20
      Blakes minutes are WAY down
Apr 01st 2013
21
      BYNUM
Apr 01st 2013
25
           why start now
Apr 01st 2013
33
                i'm all in on bynum.
Apr 01st 2013
34
                     only 20s & 10s Bynum putting up involve g-strings at Delilah's
Apr 02nd 2013
40
That John Cena line cracked me up.
Apr 01st 2013
3
Love woulda did it
Apr 01st 2013
4
Yeah, consider Love's injuries and Dwight's back/team...
Apr 01st 2013
6
      RE: Yeah, consider Love's injuries and Dwight's back/team...
Apr 01st 2013
15
Shows how Lebron is dominating a weak league.
Apr 01st 2013
5
8.1 rpg > 6.5 rpg
Apr 01st 2013
8
      http://i47.tinypic.com/2zoeo0o.jpg
Apr 01st 2013
12
           he 28, dogg...and bout to win #2...matter of time
Apr 01st 2013
13
           That's not what we're talking about here
Apr 01st 2013
27
                Thats what im talkin bout tho
Apr 01st 2013
31
cuz could have.
Apr 01st 2013
7
he's crazy
Apr 01st 2013
9
shit, he's also not that good.
Apr 01st 2013
10
      He's not bad...he's crazy. He has skills but the decision making of
Apr 01st 2013
14
      he's pretty shitty on offense (for his talent) but you have to believe
Apr 01st 2013
17
           i agree.
Apr 01st 2013
18
                and yet flipping Duck Sauce for him plus a pick on draft day was a layup
Apr 02nd 2013
41
                     i don't want to think about that.
Apr 02nd 2013
44
                          RE: i don't want to think about that.
Apr 02nd 2013
46
                               why stop there?
Apr 02nd 2013
47
Boogie is basically Zach Randolph before he arrived in Memphis
Apr 02nd 2013
42
Shows how wack the league is now and ties in perfectly with FILF's post
Apr 01st 2013
11
Elmo just finished a month averaging 20/10 in only 32 minutes
Apr 01st 2013
22
      Yet all that still doesn't refute anything about my original premise
Apr 01st 2013
23
           So, basically Bean can't even win in a shitty league surrounded by HOFer
Apr 01st 2013
24
                He's won 2 since Elmo last won one
Apr 01st 2013
26
                     oh you mean when shitty teams like Orlando went to the Finals
Apr 01st 2013
28
                          yea the same year the West was stacked
Apr 01st 2013
29
                          according to Truth's logic...... it wasn't
Apr 01st 2013
39
                          RE: oh you mean when shitty teams like Orlando went to the Finals
Apr 01st 2013
30
                          Game 7: Perk DNP
Apr 01st 2013
38
                               ah yes, the great Kendrick Perkins
Apr 02nd 2013
43
                          Too bad SA couldn't sniff a Finals those years.
Apr 01st 2013
32
                               shoulda traded manu and never gotten rj
Apr 01st 2013
35
                               **Look at pay roll**......yeah, they were never suppose to make it
Apr 01st 2013
37
David Lee is 18.5/11. He was averaging 20/10 around ASW
Apr 01st 2013
36
he'd need to avg around 30 a game to get there prolly.
Apr 02nd 2013
45
We have 4 right now, Love, Blake, Cuz, and Carmelo, then you have...
Nov 26th 2013
48
20/10 ain't mean shyt but 20/10,,,,,,,,just another #emptystat
Nov 27th 2013
49

Dr Claw
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1. "my boy was talking about that yesterday."
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he HATES Dwight Howard. straight up HATES him, to the level I haven't heard him describe since he first started talking about John Cena (lol) 10 years ago. he even brought up the "Cena" hate when discussing him.

his chief reason is that, he's dominant on the defensive side, but is (his words) some bullshit offensively. he has no offensive moves.

I thought of that when I read this article.

  

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2. "I hate Howard for many of the same reasons, however he wasn't"
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the first guy I thought of for this one since I knew his broke HGH-He-Man-Action-Figure-Ass was averaging like 15/16 all year.

The first person I thought of was actually Blake Griffin, because as well as the Clippers' season has gone he really hasn't beasted the way folks thought he would.

  

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16. "this shit is ALL griffin"
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yeah love woulda had it. demarcus will get there if he ever really matures...bron or durant could do 20/10 if they wanted. that's about all i see.

those others....griffin or aldridge. their JOBS are fucking best in the league pfs and being 20/10. fuck dwight, al jeff, and josh smith too.

  

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19. "yeah, Blake averages 20/10 for his career, yet at age 24 coming up short"
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for shame.

  

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20. "blake is all empty stats and commercials and can't even get that right"
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so yeah. fuck this age 24 shit. he's been in his prime.

  

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21. "Blakes minutes are WAY down"
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38/g rookie year, 36 last yr, 32.6 this year. His numbers are still down a bit per 36, but it's not as bad as it seems.

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25. "BYNUM"
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33. "why start now"
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34. "i'm all in on bynum."
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at least he guarantees the sixers are either very good or terrible. can't deal with josh smith and another season of mediocrity.

but mostly i was just pointing out that this year was a statistical anomaly and people shouldn't get all weird about it. howard, love, griffin and bynum are all guys who normally would have put up 20/10 in their current situations (without injuries or griffin's low minutes). plus there's a bunch of dudes like cousins, jefferson, lee and duncan who are really close, not to mention pau, bosh, z-bo and boozer who have done similar numbers in the past.

  

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40. "only 20s & 10s Bynum putting up involve g-strings at Delilah's"
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>at least he guarantees the sixers are either very good or
>terrible. can't deal with josh smith and another season of
>mediocrity.
>
>but mostly i was just pointing out that this year was a
>statistical anomaly and people shouldn't get all weird about
>it. howard, love, griffin and bynum are all guys who normally
>would have put up 20/10 in their current situations (without
>injuries or griffin's low minutes). plus there's a bunch of
>dudes like cousins, jefferson, lee and duncan who are really
>close, not to mention pau, bosh, z-bo and boozer who have done
>similar numbers in the past.
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3. "That John Cena line cracked me up."
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I love wrestling fans that take it that serious lol.

  

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4. "Love woulda did it"
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6. "Yeah, consider Love's injuries and Dwight's back/team..."
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... I don't put an insane amount of weight into this. It's pretty fluky.

That having been said, comparing the names of the current 20/10 types (Howard, Griffin, Randolph, Love) vs. those of the past does say something about the state of the big man in the guard-oriented NBA of today.

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15. "RE: Yeah, consider Love's injuries and Dwight's back/team..."
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>... I don't put an insane amount of weight into this. It's
>pretty fluky.


Yeah...this ^^^^^^^^

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5. "Shows how Lebron is dominating a weak league. "
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*Waits for Lebron Stans to OD*

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8. "8.1 rpg > 6.5 rpg"
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12. "http://i47.tinypic.com/2zoeo0o.jpg"
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http://i47.tinypic.com/2zoeo0o.jpg

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13. "he 28, dogg...and bout to win #2...matter of time"
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plus he hookin up wit Ky Ky in 2.

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27. "That's not what we're talking about here"
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31. "Thats what im talkin bout tho"
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7. "cuz could have."
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but he's only playing 31 minutes a game.

  

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9. "he's crazy"
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10. "shit, he's also not that good."
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the talent is there, but results are pretty ordinary: good rebounder and passer who turns the ball over a ton and a volume scorer with slightly below-average efficiency.

he could be very good in the right environment, but his brain and sacramento is a bad combo.

  

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14. "He's not bad...he's crazy. He has skills but the decision making of"
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a 8 year bully...once he is out of Sac (if he gets out) he will be better

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17. "he's pretty shitty on offense (for his talent) but you have to believe"
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that would be a lot better if he got his head right and on a stable squad.

cause even with no shooting he's 18 and 10. his defense has gotten a smidge better too.

  

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18. "i agree."
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to his credit, he's worked his way up to a TS% of 52%, which is a hair below average for a center (54%). that's a second year of improvement in that category (48% as a rookie, 50% last season). since he shoots a LOT, that's a big deal.

he also blocks a pathetic amount of shots for a center.

  

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41. "and yet flipping Duck Sauce for him plus a pick on draft day was a layup"
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>to his credit, he's worked his way up to a TS% of 52%, which
>is a hair below average for a center (54%). that's a second
>year of improvement in that category (48% as a rookie, 50%
>last season). since he shoots a LOT, that's a big deal.
>
>he also blocks a pathetic amount of shots for a center.

  

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44. "i don't want to think about that."
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even favors would have been a much better pick.

  

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46. "RE: i don't want to think about that."
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>even favors would have been a much better pick.

yup, that was the time to swap that pick out. Shit I'd rather Monroe, George & maybe even Bledsoe too.

  

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47. "why stop there?"
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turner is terrible. favors, cousins, monroe, aminu, hayward, george, larry sanders, bledsoe, avery bradley, fields, booker, pondexter, vazquez and lance are all better.

peep the carnage:

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42. "Boogie is basically Zach Randolph before he arrived in Memphis"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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11. "Shows how wack the league is now and ties in perfectly with FILF's post "
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22. "Elmo just finished a month averaging 20/10 in only 32 minutes"
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Just like he has been doing throughout his career against your boys KG/Dirk/CWebb/Sheed/Brand/Shaq/Pau.....there is a reason why he has more double-doubles that any active player although, Sheed & KG came into the league 2 years earlier. He will be 20/10 in the 'off, book it.

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23. "Yet all that still doesn't refute anything about my original premise"
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24. "So, basically Bean can't even win in a shitty league surrounded by HOFer"
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Co-sign

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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26. "He's won 2 since Elmo last won one"
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28. "oh you mean when shitty teams like Orlando went to the Finals"
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Not to mention Boston w/o KG.

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29. "yea the same year the West was stacked"
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and Lakers were the 1 seed. Spurs probably would have beat Orlando in the finals had they made it...unfortunately because their conference was so competitive they got bounced in the 1st round in a quick 5 games so I guess we'll never know.

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39. "according to Truth's logic...... it wasn't"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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30. "RE: oh you mean when shitty teams like Orlando went to the Finals"
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>Not to mention Boston w/o KG.

What about beating Boston in the Finals WITH KG?

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38. "Game 7: Perk DNP"
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43. "ah yes, the great Kendrick Perkins"
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32. "Too bad SA couldn't sniff a Finals those years."
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Or for the last 6.

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35. "shoulda traded manu and never gotten rj"
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37. "**Look at pay roll**......yeah, they were never suppose to make it"
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36. "David Lee is 18.5/11. He was averaging 20/10 around ASW"
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8 more games left, he probably won't pad his stats to average 20.

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45. "he'd need to avg around 30 a game to get there prolly."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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48. "We have 4 right now, Love, Blake, Cuz, and Carmelo, then you have..."
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AD & LA on the cusp...

It's became cool to shit on Melo but that dude is balling his ass off with that bum ass squad, I don't know how long he's going to hold up playing 40+mpg though...

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49. "20/10 ain't mean shyt but 20/10,,,,,,,,just another #emptystat"
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