Comeback tour lasted less than a minute.

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

.....then got KOTFO by a kick-boxer. Women's MMA was in the stone-ages & was NEVER on the level of other blood sports.

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that was worse than my worst expectation

<--- Big Baller World Order

>that was worse than my worst expectation
>

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And even that fight was lopsided

I'm speechless at how easy that was.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

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Good lord.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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>Comeback tour lasted less than a minute.

>>Comeback tour lasted less than a minute.
>

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you cant sell her after that.

<--- Big Baller World Order

she dont want it

November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

did she not learn anything from her last fight about standing there eating punches? jeez that was ugly.

https://streamable.com/vcdm6

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Almost feel bad for her.

>https://streamable.com/vcdm6

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http://tinyurl.com/glw9xcd

For those that missed it, this is video footage of the fight mixed with audio of Ronda's coach advising her as the fight goes on. Wonder how long this link will last for.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

I do respect the sportsmanship at the end. She seemed genuinely concerned that she was ok. SMH @ the trainer yelling "Clench!!" as Ronda was getting her face punched off.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I think there's two or so archived threads about her where I complimented her; her grappling skills with respect to her judo are top notch. It appears the stand up striking is starting to evolve for the women compared to when she had her reign with the title and she hasn't gotten better in that regard. Evolve or get left behind.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

and the debate was her weak ass competition at the time.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

That wasn't even the discussion but let's not bring that nonsense up again.

Check this shit out: http://tinyurl.com/ju5hk93

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I just remembered the thread being made and folks in general actually arguing Rousey had a chance against Floyd.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

A fight between a mma fighter and a boxer who knows zero grappling. Take the names and genders out of it and the MMA fighter wins every time. That is all.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

i stand with my statement. otherwise they all gonna end up like James Toney (who at least had the balls to try).

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She's a judoka but for some reason the last couple fights she's been out to prove that she's got hands. She never has had any real striking ability beyond setting up a throw or takedown. Her normal tactic was bull rush to hip throw and then groundwork to an armbar. Stick with what you know. She's gotten punched more in these last two fights than in her whole career.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

But there's a big difference between training and actually executing. Once she got struck, Ronda fell right back into the same patterns as the last fight...it's pretty obvious imo she was not mentally recovered from that loss.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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>But there's a big difference between training and actually
>executing. Once she got struck, Ronda fell right back into the
>same patterns as the last fight...it's pretty obvious imo she
>was not mentally recovered from that loss.

It's also possible 1) Ronda might have a weaker chin after that massive headkick KO from Holm and 2) Amanda Nunez punches extremely fucking hard. Nunez also made very very quick work for Meisha Tate when she won the belt, similar straight jabs and right hands took Meisha down.

Not saying you aren't wrong in what you said, but you have to also factor in what I said as well. I also think that Edmund Tarvedian dude is a shit show of an MMA coach and that has to be mentioned as well.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

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I knew it was gonna be a problem when Meisha said that Amanda was the hardest punch she's ever felt.

>I knew it was gonna be a problem when Meisha said that Amanda
>was the hardest punch she's ever felt.

This. The game was clearly changing. She needed to get a win before going in with someone who was ready to go toe to toe. If that meant fighting a tomato can, eff it. The backlash for doing that is less than the backlash she's gonna eat for this shell-shocked showing. Now, they probably won't be able to throw her into any fight and make it 'the thing to see' on a card. So she's basically done as a fighter..probably.

No one is interested in seeing her fight tomato cans and real talk, the game has changed and the chances of her getting mopped up by a lesser opponent is high as shit.

Might as well get a title fight while her name was still hot

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Floyd wouldn't beat Holly Holm, Meisha Tate, Amanda Nunes or Ronda in a real fight in the octagon. not sure why anyone would believe otherwise.

>Floyd wouldn't beat Holly Holm, Meisha Tate, Amanda Nunes or
>Ronda in a real fight in the octagon. not sure why anyone
>would believe otherwise.

If she gets in Floyd's range, he would tattoo her face & we all know she can't even take a jab from a girl that's Floyd's size.

Floyd isn't going to clench with her so she would have to walk him down which means she is going to eat punches from a guy who knocked out Ricky Hatton w/ a left hook (weaker hand) when he was trying to walk him down without head movement like Ronda.

Besides, he can just use his brute strength to disengage a clench (not that difficult without a judogi) if he ever get into that situation before she can set up her judo throws. It's not like Floyd doesn't have experience disengaging clenches as he actually initiates them in the ring.

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first of all Amanda caught her before she ever tried to clinch with her, but that's beside the point. what makes you think a boxing clinch and an MMA clinch is the same thing? how would a boxer know how to defend a clinch where the intent was to throw them down? a clinch in boxing is used to stop the action whereas it's only the beginning in MMA. what's a boxer going to do when someone gets them in a Muay Thai clinch? what about a shoot to the lower body or legs for a takedown? come on man.

>first of all Amanda caught her before she ever tried to
>clinch with her, but that's beside the point.

She tried grabbing her shoulder but Amanda shrugged her off & kept blasting.

>what makes you
>think a boxing clinch and an MMA clinch is the same thing?
>how would a boxer know how to defend a clinch where the intent
>was to throw them down? a clinch in boxing is used to stop
>the action whereas it's only the beginning in MMA.

You have to disengage clenches against inside fighters & Floyd has experience w/ that against the likes of Hatton who was a world class fighter.

>what's a
>boxer going to do when someone gets them in a Muay Thai
>clinch? what about a shoot to the lower body or legs for a
>takedown? come on man.

Ronda isn't known for her Muay Thai clench, she's known for her judo throws.

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i truly feel like the majority of the Ronda hate is based on this ridiculous debate.

>i truly feel like the majority of the Ronda hate is based on
>this ridiculous debate.

Ronda is a one trick pony who didn't even wrestle in high-school & doesn't have high level BJJ/Muay Thai/kick-boxing training. She can grapple but she has to take her opponent down with her judo throws instead of level changes like a wrestler. Holly was also able to stop a take down attempt while pinned against the fence & then arm bar attempt after Holly actually took her down b/c of her brute strength. Do you think Holly is stronger than a world-class professional male boxer her own size?

Misha was able to keep Holly on her heels b/c of the level changes which wasn't an issue w/ Ronda who had opponents running to her lap or was able to walk them down since they didn't know how to control their range.

If you think greatest defensive fighter of his era is going to be hit by Ronda's overhand right or knees which she has used to finish fights then watch how Holly made her looks like a bull chasing a matador w/ her footwork & she isn't even known for her defense as a kick-boxer. Ronda also got lit up b/c she squares up while standing flat footed which gives her opponent a huge stationary target especially w/ the lack of head movement.

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>Ronda is a one trick pony who didn't even wrestle in
>high-school & doesn't have high level BJJ/Muay
>Thai/kick-boxing training.

you know that describes a lot of MMA fighters right? there's a lot of grapplers who aren't strong on their feet and vice versa. there's an elite few who can put it all together equally. the great majority are very strong in their base discipline and know the other basics.

She can grapple but she has to take
>her opponent down with her judo throws instead of level
>changes like a wrestler. Holly was also able to stop a take
>down attempt while pinned against the fence & then arm bar
>attempt after Holly actually took her down b/c of her brute
>strength. Do you think Holly is stronger than a world-class
>professional male boxer her own size?

Holly did not stop her with brute strength. Holly stopped her with technique. she said herself that they specifically trained on avoiding Ronda's standing throws and submission attempts on the ground. i don't know any boxer that trains grappling/takedown/submission defense so their strength won't have much to do with stopping from being thrown and then armbar'd. Ronda picked Michael Strahan up off his feet with minimal effort. do you really think she couldn't throw Floyd?


>Misha was able to keep Holly on her heels b/c of the level
>changes which wasn't an issue w/ Ronda who had opponents
>running to her lap or was able to wal
k them down since they
>didn't know how to control their range.


Holly hasn't won a fight since she beat Ronda. Ronda beat Meisha twice. Ronda also beat 2 women that beat Amanda Nunes before. i'm not saying Ronda can't be beat cuz clearly we've seen that she can. i'm just saying she deserves more credit than she's being given. she started believing her hype and started trying to be something she wasn't and paid the price for it. i do agree that she needs to learn some wrestling and start shooting for the legs instead of just going for the high clinch and throw. she's clearly been figured out and she needs to change things up and for goodness sakes stop trying to box with these girls.

>If you think greatest defensive fighter of his era is going to
>be hit by Ronda's overhand right or knees which she has used
>to finish fights then watch how Holly made her looks like a
>bull chasing a matador w/ her footwork & she isn't even known
>for her defense as a kick-boxer. Ronda also got lit up b/c she
>squares up while standing flat footed which gives her opponent
>a huge stationary target especially w/ the lack of head
>movement.

Floyd is the greatest defensive BOXER which would only help him in the octagon if someone dared to stand and strike with him. Ronda or any other MMA fighter wouldn't even have to connect on a punch to be effective. unless he can pull off a one-punch knockout he'd be done in a matter of seconds regardless who he's fighting. i don't see it any other way.

i swear this is the dumbest argument ever.

>you know that describes a lot of MMA fighters right? there's
>a lot of grapplers who aren't strong on their feet and vice
>versa. there's an elite few who can put it all together
>equally. the great majority are very strong in their base
>discipline and know the other basics.

Which is why female's MMA is in the stone ages.

>Holly did not stop her with brute strength. Holly stopped her
>with technique. she said herself that they specifically
>trained on avoiding Ronda's standing throws and submission
>attempts on the ground. i don't know any boxer that trains
>grappling/takedown/submission defense so their strength won't
>have much to do with stopping from being thrown and then
>armbar'd. Ronda picked Michael Strahan up off his feet with
>minimal effort. do you really think she couldn't throw
>Floyd?

Her picking up Strahan while he provides ZERO resistance is the equivalent of her picking up a 250lb punching bag which means nothing in the octagon. Holly had NEVER been taken down until the Misha fight & she was a freakin' kick-boxer. Give Floyd a 3 month training camp & he would be fine.
>
>Holly hasn't won a fight since she beat Ronda. Ronda beat
>Meisha twice. Ronda also beat 2 women that beat Amanda Nunes
>before. i'm not saying Ronda can't be beat cuz clearly we've
>seen that she can. i'm just saying she deserves more credit
>than she's being given.

Misha got out-grappled by Ronda & Davis/Cat rushed Ronda when the bell rang digging their own grave in the process. Amanda also lost those fights b/c she got gassed after the 1st rd. Ronda basically never had to stand-up & fight until the Holly fight.

>she started believing her hype and
>started trying to be something she wasn't and paid the price
>for it. i do agree that she needs to learn some wrestling and
>start shooting for the legs instead of just going for the high
>clinch and throw. she's clearly been figured out and she
>needs to change things up and for goodness sakes stop trying
>to box with these girls.

Floyd would get on his bicycle & make it a boxing fight just like Holly. If Ronda wants to rush in w/ her flat-footed & no head movement style then she is going to pay for it severely.

>Floyd is the greatest defensive BOXER which would only help
>him in the octagon if someone dared to stand and strike with
>him.

It's called freaking footwork. Floyd is hard to hit even when he's cornered & slip out of range before his opponents even have a chance to counter.

>Ronda or any other MMA fighter wouldn't even have to
>connect on a punch to be effective. unless he can pull off a
>one-punch knockout he'd be done in a matter of seconds
>regardless who he's fighting. i don't see it any other way.

This is how the fight would end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SIc-fQb3I

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And I say clinch because, clearly, that's all she can do

did she know she was washed when she stepped in the ring or when that first punch connected?

also *rolls eyes* at suddenly this being the only fight in her career that counts.




www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

for the sport. I'll never disparage anyone in fighting sports because it's a tough and lonely process, even with a supportive team.

Takedown/ground based fighters that don't have any stand up are dinosaurs in MMA now(and God help you in real fights if you think going to the ground is ever a good idea), it took some better competition in the women's division to find out what we know to be true in men's MMA.

which...I can understand.

her face tonight was my face in the lone sparring session I ever went to.

nope nope nope. I can't get psyched up to get in the ring and get punched in the face, even if it means I can punch the other person.

whatever skills she did or didn't have before, she does not appear to have whatever drive you need to be a fighter right now

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

<--- Big Baller World Order

For better or for worse. In this case, it's evident Ronda never recovered from a mental standpoint as she so quickly reverted back to the same form once she took a few punches.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

just flat footed, easy target, no counters, no aggression -- she was scared to be hurt, and had no confidence she could hurt her opponent.

it was a live case study of an athlete that was not there mentally. like a pitcher who can't find home plate or running back trying to avoid all hits to his reconstructed knee. you can only compete at this level at one speed, and that's gone for her. very sad to watch unfold.

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Once that creeps in, it changes your entire approach/purpose and therefore performance. As you said, this was a live case study in that regard.

There's so much grey area when it comes to return to sport whether that be after injury or loss or any other trauma. That reality is a major reason why I always have a 3 stage process for return to play:
1) Objective physical criteria including movement quality
2) sport and position specific movements
3) I will either attend the first few games or have them video'd for me so I can assess quality and confidence of movement within a game setting.

You'd be shocked at how many so called "return to sport protocols" don't even assess #1 effectively, let alone 2 or 3. It's pretty embarrassing.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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Do you do this for third string division 2 defensive
backs?

No.

She's not an elite athlete. Never has been.

Anyone can beat up on tomato cans

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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SHe got gassed up beating women of even lesser skill than her. As soon as she ran into women who could actually, ya know, fight well she was cooked. Naturally that leads to a mind fuck.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

either you don't know MMA at all, or you're just a Ronda hater who's enjoying her demise. some of the all-time great HOF UFC fighters have taken some colossal beatings on their resumes. believe it or not Ronda could make a comeback but she's got to make some major changes top to bottom.

She hadn't earned shit.