He was wrong. He too wanted to get hot off of the sophomoric #Kang hate frenzy in 2010 and failed to see the larger picture: Lebron James both founded and enshrined an enlightenment period of heightened Players Rights that has created a paradigm shift in the NBA.
They all praised KD for playing by the old rules - and in turn - he turned his back on convention and jettison'd ship in unprecedented fashion. He apologizes as only now he realizes the courage of Lebron James: Kang carried the cross so that KD can have nice teammates.
Problem is: Lebron went to a Miami team that was on the brink of perennial mediocrity (much like they are now). Swept from the 1st round of the playoffs in 2009 when D. Wade was the Alpha - and the franchise was saved by Lebron's shift to Miami - instantly turning them from an afterthought into a powerhouse dynasty.
Golden State? *Already* a built champion; a historic team. They have won without KD - they don't need him; he needs them. White flags drawn. What's worse? 3-1 lead in the WCF - and you couldn't get it done. An arch rival destroys you and then assimilates you accordingly.
These things aren't the same. But one thing is certain: Kevin Durant was wrong - and he apologizes to Lebron James today for not realizing the genius aforethought and founding father prophecy of Lebron James - who invoked the 23rd Amendment in 2010:
Players Rights > Franchise Rights
Citizens United was overturned by Justice James and the world was never the same.
2. "Oh Absolutely. That's why the irony is too rich to ignore." In response to Reply # 1 Mon Jul-04-16 06:06 PM by Vex_id
Bron was crucified in 2010 for going to a team where he still had to *build* a dynasty nearly from the ground-up. That Miami team was ass in 2009. Wade as "the guy" barely led them to an 8th seed; swept in 1st round by Boston. Bron had to create the dynasty with Bosh & Wade - reconstructing the whole team.
KD is going to a mansion already built - and you're right: he had serious help in OKC. They had all the pieces - but it was KD who couldn't go into that extra gear - yet the criticism on him was luke-warm - because they loved that he seemed to play by the old rules.
No Country For Old Men in the modern NBA. KD is riding off the pioneering that Bron did - but unlike Bron in 2010, this decision lacked foresight and took zero courage. It's a lose-lose for his legacy. He wins? Well shit - you *had* to with that team. But if he can't win?
YIKES.
He literally has to win 4/5 titles in GS to justify this move.
14. "One of These Is Wrong " In response to Reply # 1
> >it was HIM that let tony allen muscle his ass out to 30 feet >when catching the ball. Agreed. No way he shouldn't have bodied Tony Allen
>it was HIM who didn't match bron's intensity in 2012. That's just false. Your boy HARDEN was the one to blame for that. KD balled, but Harden played like ass
>it was HIM who didn't stop golden state's run in game 6 less >that 6 weeks ago. That was HIM. Come on man. Game 7 was more on Russy but Game 6? Klay went berserk in that game...if you want to say KD came up small in the 4th quarter then I can't disagree with that. But so did the whole team (even though he and Russy took all the shots)
But 2012 is on Harden
Abdul Jabbar, Muggsy Malone you I don't know what that means but you know what I meant when I told you (c) Sean Price
17. "Bron Got the Same Pass" In response to Reply # 15 Mon Jul-04-16 09:40 PM by RexLongfellow
Nobody blamed him for losing last year or in 2007. Bron only gets blamed if his team is better than the team he lost to.
I'll admit that the heat he gets for losing is FAR greater than everyone else, which is unfair. Steph should STILL be getting roasted. The irony of the whole situation is both Steph and KD blew 3-1 leads and caught less heat than Lebron
24. "well, he's better than every other star right?" In response to Reply # 22
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
31. "so then why are you crying about him being criticized more?" In response to Reply # 26
lol
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
25. "if the majority of folks were claiming he was number 1, he wouldn't" In response to Reply # 15
be getting that 'pass'.
Just like Curry didn't get a 'pass' during the finals.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
oh its ok to squad up as long as you don't join the team that beat you lololol.
nigga couldn't get over the hump and found his best chance of doing it for years to come.
^^^applies to bron and durant.
Niggas talking its not like lebron joined the celtics. Of course not, that woulda been dumb and very shortsighted..them dudes was getting old and bron wanted 'not 1, not 2, not 3....he went to the team that gave him the best chance at winning multiple championships...
just like KD
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
9. "KD will forever be the Action Bronson to LBJ's Ghostface to me" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Jul-04-16 07:41 PM by MothershipConnection
I realized today that I'll forever be an irrational sports fan and I'll own it.
Say what you want about Lebron but he's always given us the highest of highs and lowest of lows. He puts up the highest stakes and he's delivered the impossible just enough to make you believe. Be the most hyped high school baller of all time and actually justify it? He damn did it. Pull off the Superfriends team and win 2 titles when everyone pulled against him? He damn did it. The Block? He did it. Go back home and win a title in fucking Cleveland down 3-1? He damn did it.
Even his failures (The Decision, the Mavs loss) are originals.
I understand why people ride and die for people like Kobe (who I hate) and AI (who I'm neutral about). They make people feel they can do the impossible. They make normal people think they can actually gun for 81 every game and still be a winner (which actually happened) or be 150 pounds surrounded by giants and do what AI did (which actually happened).
I feel no emotion about KD. He made a rational business decision and I support people's freedom above all. He can win the next 5 titles and it doesn't move the meter for me. No one fights who's better, Worthy or McHale? What's better, Boondock Saints vs Suicide Kings?
KD is a 7 footer with one of the sweetest strokes in league history, and that's unfair, going to a team that won 73 games, which is both completely rational and unfair. Lebron makes the impossible happen. Like En Vogue said, give me something that I can feel.
11. "The one thing I never got with him is the tattoo thing" In response to Reply # 10
I don't want to go too Nolan Narwocki/ESPN hot take sports psychologist here, but this dude is inked to the gills underneath his jersey, while completely unmarked anywhere outside, basically all for marketing purposes... at a time when the dude who serves you coffee with an art degree has more ink than a Hell's Angel in 1969.
Always struck me as a dude who wants it both ways IMO.
13. "that argument is lame, cosmetic - and decisively not substantive" In response to Reply # 12
People cried like teenage jilted lovers when Bron left Cleveland because he broke up with them via text message - but the substance of *why* he left was sound - and in retrospect - was the absolute smart/visionary move as it set up the Homecoming which experienced the greatest NBA Finals achievement/moment in the history of the National Basketball Association.
KD did some benign marketing announcement of his move to GS - sans drama. congrats. The *substance* of his decision to join an already built champion who is his arch rival (and who just beat him in the WCF after being up 3-1) - is abysmal in its substantive form. Forget cosmetics.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79988 posts
Tue Jul-05-16 08:47 AM
23. "nigga, you supposed to logoff for a month" In response to Reply # 12
honor that bet bruh
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
30. "... No, we expect KD..." In response to Reply # 29
... to not choke away a three game lead on his championship contending team and then join the 73 win team that beat his team in the offseason.
Go to Boston and win a chip there with Al Horford. STAY and win a chip with his top 5 teammate, Victor Oladipo and pieces. Go to San Antonio and get the Popovich automatic stat boost.
GO ANYWHERE OTHER THAN THE 73 WIN TEAM THAT BEAT YOUR TEAM ON YOUR HOME COURT EN ROUTE TO AN NBA FINALS APPEARANCE.
No, this is some hoe shit. They won 73 games without KD so now 75 wins is the bar. Steve Kerr is such a great coach so 75 wins is doable, right? KD sure gave himself a hard road to the finals. At least Bron had to overcome adversity returning to Cleveland with injury prone Ky and overrated at the time Kevin Love.
Imagine if Bron went to the regular season wins leader coming off a finals loss. He'd never live that down but KD gets a pass... FOH.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79988 posts
Tue Jul-05-16 10:14 AM
34. "playing with Delly and Mozgov last year in the Finals? " In response to Reply # 33
i think thats what he meant
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79988 posts
Tue Jul-05-16 12:53 PM
47. "facts aren't excuses" In response to Reply # 46
he played without his 2 best players and lost.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79988 posts
Tue Jul-05-16 01:35 PM
57. "aint no crying in sports bruh" In response to Reply # 51
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
35. "Don't forget about Blatt's coaching" In response to Reply # 33
>Playing with a top 5 PG and arguably a top 5 PF plus a bunch >of role players he personally wanted? Such a difficult life.
Ky is the top PG of his class but he gets injured too much and Bron had to correct a lot of Ky's mistakes. It got so bad to the point that Bron took over point guard duties just to demonstrate how Ky should play.
Kevin Love got exposed early but he's gradually turned it around this year and helped us win a title with the best defensive possession of his career.
You're right that Delly is an elite role player. Richard Jefferson gave us 30 minutes a game off the bench with his quality performance. Jokes aside, Bron had to deal with a coaching change rookie season. This rookie head coach went up against elite teams in the league without the benefit of installing his own defensive and offensive systems during the offseason like every coach.
Meanwhile KD lost a 3-1 series including the decisive game on his home court and joined the winningest team in NBA history months later. Nah, KD gets deserves the worst roasting in NBA history if the Warriors don't win 75 games en route to a title berth.
39. "Hell yeah i laughed but let me CYSE these niggas..." In response to Reply # 36
... I'm CYSING THE EVER LOVING FUCK OF THE WARRIORS.
They breaking offensive records. They breaking defensive records. None of them getting the MVP because of the Lebron rule*. Minimum 63 wins but more than likely 75 regular season wins. Maximum three loses in the NBA playoffs en route to the greatest statistical performance in NBA history.
*The Lebron rule states that any former MVP that plays on a stacked team that set NBA records cannot win another MVP the next year.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
45. "speaking of, how did I make it personal before? You've never" In response to Reply # 44
answered that question...everything is in the archives though, i'm sure you can find it.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
61. "you gonna answer or nah? " In response to Reply # 60
its funny how he following oe steez of dodging direct questions
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
48. "the dude is a knicks fan. " In response to Reply # 44 Tue Jul-05-16 01:07 PM by Basaglia
he can't relate to the honor and privilege it is to rep for greatness out here in these internet streets.
you notice all those posters who don't have greatness to follow all try to downplay this fan shit when it suits them.
all these laker fans who blew kobe for YEARS around here be actin like "oh, man, y'all take this shit too seriously"
all these niggas who cysed THAT FRAUD all year long, like we ain't seen no shit like that before --LIKE I AIN'T SEE MUHFUCKAN CHUCK PERSON PULLING FROM 40 IN BIRD'S GODDAMN FACE IN THE PLAYOFFS!!! -- now, they actin like it ain't a big deal that The Young Legend got up in his asshole and left newspaper and snicker wrappers in that bitch.
nah...we fans. don't act like he ain't our jobs to overreact and cyse these dudes as gods when it's our turn to party and act stupid.
like, do i NEED to up all that shit these idiots said about steph and WHO HE WAS? like that nigga was supposed to be THE ONE.
steph was a FRAUD. lebron is the one who deserves to have his knob polished on this fucking board, not that wormy ass FRAUD who does inflatable car dealership mascot dances when everything is going great and then hangs his head like a bitch when The Young Legend crosses his dumb ass up and makes him do the running man.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79988 posts
Tue Jul-05-16 12:55 PM
49. "no wonder he jumped on the wrong wagon this year" In response to Reply # 48
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
54. "40thStreetWhite is a Knicks fan? That explains it. " In response to Reply # 48
Knicks and Lakers fans are the worst offenders - and they all line up in these posts to commiserate in unison. I hope they're going to be ok - because their whole narrative has been destroyed over the past 5 years - and it's clearly difficult for them to process and admit how wrong they were.
But point blank - it comes down to what you said: They wanted to party on what they anticipated would be failure in CLE with Bron & Ky - and now they're crying when true fans celebrate the Greatest Achievement in NBA History on their doorstep.
Too bad.
dying at this:
Cats on this >steph was a FRAUD. lebron is the one who deserves to have his >knob polished on this fucking board, not that wormy ass FRAUD >who does inflatable car dealership mascot dances when >everything is going great and then hangs his head like a bitch >when The Young Legend crosses his dumb ass up and makes him do >the running man. > >
73. "ya'll are washed up vets tho so nobody cares." In response to Reply # 69
just kiddding, doc still in his prime.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
79. "LOL look at how mad and predictable y'all are. I love it" In response to Reply # 73
Actually it just occurred to me what drives your madness:
Not only have you been woefully wrong with your narrative ousted in dramatic fashion - but you have to stomach the fact that the triangulation of epic board agendas (doc, basa, myself) have all coalesced and we are aligned in unity as true, genuine fans.
You just can't wrap your tiny brain molecules around that as old-guard fans operating on the lower rung of evolutionary fandom.
Still crying about "EVERYONE HAS TO BE A FRANCHISE LOYALIST OR ELSE!'
Guess what? Doc, Basa & my teams/players WON in a manner that ranks #1 on the all-time NBA list of achievements --- and y'all lost....*badly*
We're not going anywhere either. You will be reminded of just how small-minded and basic you are as long as this board exists.
But that said - it's all fun and family. Know that we're here for you all when you're ready to confront your denial. -->
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