Much like their music lists, they make some objectively insane decisions based on trying to cater to a younger audience. For instance, SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING over SPIDER-MAN. And, even more so, X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST over X2.
But I thought there'd be some interesting fodder for discussion for those still around the board here.
Scott Pilgrimm should be higher. The Old Guard? Why is this here? Nice to see some animated DC fare thrown in the mix! BP as number one is nice, but wrong.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Wed Jun-29-22 11:43 AM
4. "Unsurprisingly, a ton of the Marvel stuff is overrated. " In response to Reply # 1
Thor above Scott Pilgrim is insane. Ant-Man above The Batman is insane. Shang-Chi right above The Suicide Squad, Blade II, and Unbreakable is... incomprehensible. Deadpool above Batman Returns and The Rocketeer is insane. Doctor Strange above Robocop is ABSOLUTELY BANANAS. Spider-Man: Homecoming over *so much of this stuff* is insane.
And yeah, Black Panther belongs very high on the list, but I think #1 is a stretch. I think they just wanted a Marvel movie at #1.
Also, Blade II but no Blade? Hellboy but no Hellboy II? Also, if we're thinking DCU, I'd also say Aquaman is better than a number of the things they included.
(And, on a personal note, I'll always go to bat for Ghost Rider 2 over Ghost Rider, but I realize that's not popular, lol.)
These lists are always impossible to get right, obviously, but the skewing of the Marvel rankings is pretty blatant imo.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Wed Jun-29-22 12:31 PM
7. "Oh wow, we disagree very strongly!" In response to Reply # 5 Wed Jun-29-22 12:32 PM by Frank Longo
>I think the Tobey Macguire >SpiderMan movies have aged poorly and I’d take Homecoming >and No Way Home over them.
If anything, I think they've aged really well. Some of the CGI notwithstanding, the colors, the direction, the inventiveness of the action, the genuine emotion and stakes-- I think they're on a completely different plane. If they were released today as is, in today's marketplace of workmanlike direction, Whedon-esque quippiness, and muddy visuals, I think they'd look damn near revolutionary.
10. "I think it mostly comes down to which Peter/love interest I prefer" In response to Reply # 7
To me, Peter is equal parts sincere and funny.
Tobey is a little too sincere and not funny enough. Dunst fits the MJ role well, but it’s not a performance I’d write home about either.
Garfield is a really good actor, I just never bought him as Peter Parker until NWH. Definitely didn’t have the humor down until NWH. And I know this is a weird complaint, but he’s WAY too handsome to play Peter Parker. Emma Stone was good as Gwen, but again, nothing to write home about.
Holland has the sincerity and humor at the exact levels that Peter Parker should be. Zendaya is a different and more interesting take on the MJ character.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Wed Jun-29-22 02:08 PM
11. "I do think Holland is the best Spider-Man." In response to Reply # 10
I just don't think his movies are nearly as good. The difference between Sam Raimi and Jon Watts could fit a football stadium.
And I actually do think Dunst is a pretty great MJ. Her stuff at the end of Spider-Man 2 is just outstanding.
I agree on Garfield, those movies stunk and he was miscast-- that said, he was the best part of NWH, lol. As much as I'd bitch about how the Spider-Man MCU movies are lighter than air, those Marc Webb ones are terrrrrrrible.
8. "I think "Capt. America: First Avenger" is criminally underrated..." In response to Reply # 0
By a lot of folks, not just this list.
I think the Cap trilogy is a strong 1-2-3 punch. I've been reading Avengers comics for decades and I was never a Cap fan because he always seemed like such a boy scout. But this movie exceeded m expectations and made him likeable without overdoing the goody-goody thing.
17. "I think they actually have it in the right spot..." In response to Reply # 8
if not a bit too high. They have it above the first Avengers, and Civil War isn't on this list at all which is CRAZY to me...I like First Avenger but it's not as good as either of those.
12. "When I stop to realize they make these lists specifically " In response to Reply # 0
for clicks, engagement, and arguments, I actually realize how good they are at making accomplishing that goal. I instantly got mad about several rankings on this list and started to type an argument - but that's the entire point.
It's like they start off with a REAL list and then go back to overrate a few and underrate a few more just to make folks mad.
15. "They're great discussion starters..." In response to Reply # 12
That's all that I consider them. I'll disagree with some of their rankings and talk about why. Someone else will make a good point that I had never considered.
We all know who & what Rolling Stone is. So there's no use in arguing that part anymore. I'd rather just jump right into discussing, debating and talking about the music or movies.
18. "Yeah. But as pretentious username mentioned, RS is GOOD at" In response to Reply # 16
trolling on these lists. They make the lists good enough to not seem like they are trolling, and are usually well written, until you start looking at some of the rankings and it's like "HEY!!!"
24. "I haven't seen it since back when it came out. I'd totally forgotten" In response to Reply # 23
about how dirty they did Eriq La La Salle and his family. Like I must have blocked it from my mind. But I remember at the time loving Logan though being really disturbed by that scene.
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