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CherNic
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"Lovecraft Country (HBO) Premiere's August 16th"


  

          

https://www.hbo.com/lovecraft-country

Based on Matt Ruff 's novel of the same name, Lovecraft Country follows Atticus Freeman (Jonathan Majors) as he meets up with his friend Letitia (Jurnee Smollett) and his Uncle George (Courtney B. Vance) to embark on a road trip across 1950s Jim Crow America in search of his missing father (Michael Kenneth Williams). This begins a struggle to survive and overcome both the racist terrors of white America and the terrifying monsters that could be ripped from a Lovecraft paperback.

Lovecraft Country is executive produced by Misha Green, who also serves as showrunner, J.J. Abrams, Jordan Peele, Bill Carraro, Yann Demange, Daniel Sackheim and David Knoller; based on the novel by Matt Ruff.

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Searched for a post but only saw one in GD. Really excited for this. I'm re-reading the book and I'm glad I did because I definitely forgot a few things.

Interesting to see Misha + Jurnee together again, and in another period piece.

  

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It's gotten very good buzz
Aug 11th 2020
1
Man it’s a lot
Aug 16th 2020
2
RE: Lovecraft Country (HBO) Premiere's August 16th
Aug 16th 2020
3
Some thoughts. **SPOILERS**
Aug 17th 2020
4
they do make a few liberties/differences from the book
Aug 17th 2020
5
didn't like some of the changes from the book
Aug 17th 2020
7
I only had two quibbles. That was one.
Aug 17th 2020
6
Agreed.
Aug 17th 2020
8
hated that track in the hydrant scene
Aug 17th 2020
11
werd, I was happy to see Wack getting some shine....
Aug 19th 2020
13
that took me out
Aug 20th 2020
19
I watched Django Unchained recently and had the same reaction to the Ri...
Sep 06th 2020
43
I was annoyed af at Courtny B's
Aug 17th 2020
9
and then have no repurcussions
Aug 17th 2020
10
I'm guessing ol' girl in the Rolls Royce cleared all that up...
Aug 18th 2020
12
remember, he's the guide writer..
Aug 19th 2020
15
RE: remember, he's the guide writer..
Aug 19th 2020
16
      Right.
Aug 20th 2020
17
it wasn't ignorance it was stubbornness/defiance
Aug 20th 2020
18
      both....ignant that his stubbornness was gonna have them killed
Aug 20th 2020
20
RE: Some thoughts. **SPOILERS**
Aug 19th 2020
14
Lovecraft Country HBO Podcast w/ Ashley C. Ford & writer Shannon Houston
Aug 20th 2020
21
Episode 02 - Whitey On The Moon
Aug 23rd 2020
22
didn't like this episode at all
Aug 24th 2020
23
***spoiler-ish***
Aug 25th 2020
24
      did you see him in The Last Black Man in San Francisco?
Aug 25th 2020
25
Just went and re-binged Watchmen and now I am ready for this
Aug 26th 2020
26
Episode 03 - Holy Ghost
Aug 30th 2020
27
I was confused at first.
Aug 31st 2020
28
      I wasn't sure how they'd handle this...the book is 8 diff stories
Aug 31st 2020
29
      Ah, ok. This explains the flow of it then.
Aug 31st 2020
32
      lol, I have but it was in the basement or near the garage
Aug 31st 2020
30
      Ha.
Aug 31st 2020
31
      I thought it was a flashback episode until that scene.
Sep 03rd 2020
36
do terrible CGI monsters continue throughout?
Sep 01st 2020
33
yeah. its doesnt ruin it but it is a mark against it
Sep 02nd 2020
34
They aren't the real monsters on the show, so I can live with it.
Sep 03rd 2020
35
bruh.
Sep 04th 2020
39
The bad CGI on baby head kind of made it creepier.
Sep 03rd 2020
37
The third episode was a definite improvement
Sep 04th 2020
38
Episode 04 - A History of Violence
Sep 05th 2020
40
I stopped halfway through this ep....something is off for me
Sep 06th 2020
42
Oh yeah those are truly awful
Sep 07th 2020
45
Ohh, the sex scene = A History of Violence
Sep 06th 2020
44
damn, y'all are harsh
Sep 05th 2020
41
i know right? i wish this was a post of folks that like the show
Sep 10th 2020
47
I finished the fourth ep and I'm tapping out
Sep 08th 2020
46
Episode 7. If you are out, you need to be back in. That is all. Trust me...
Sep 28th 2020
48
considering this episode...
Sep 28th 2020
49
its really good...come on back
Sep 30th 2020
56
honestly even if you don't like the show this ep is worth a watch
Sep 30th 2020
59
episode 6 was really strong as well
Sep 28th 2020
50
      I loved episode 6. It was extremely unpopular with Black Women.
Sep 28th 2020
51
           we're not a monolith so please stop that.
Sep 29th 2020
52
                It was extremely unpopular with Black women that I know personally.
Sep 30th 2020
53
                     fair enough
Sep 30th 2020
55
                          RE: fair enough
Sep 30th 2020
58
really dug the latest 3 eps...
Sep 30th 2020
54
I was introduced to Wunmi on the last season of Luther
Sep 30th 2020
57
      His House (Netflix) Oct. 30th. Looks good.
Sep 30th 2020
60
RE: Lovecraft Country (HBO) Premiere's August 16th
Oct 13th 2020
61
...more than the last two, the last 4 or 5...
Oct 13th 2020
62
do you go back to a restaurant after 4-5 so-so meals?
Oct 13th 2020
63
Muhphuckas on here are clearly Alfred Hitchcock or Scorcese.
Oct 13th 2020
64
PTP Hates Black Series
Oct 13th 2020
65
This post has been updated nearly twenty times in the last month.
Oct 13th 2020
66
awesome journey.
Oct 28th 2020
67
Documentary on the making of the series is pretty damn awesome too
Oct 29th 2020
68

mrhood75
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1. "It's gotten very good buzz"
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I enjoyed the book, but I've heard the show is even better. I'm interested to see where they go with the show, and which of the stories they decide to cover and what they create on their own.

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2. "Man it’s a lot"
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3. "RE: Lovecraft Country (HBO) Premiere's August 16th"
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Same quality as their Watchmen. God bless HBO for you know what. Good first episode even if the ******* 's seem hokey

  

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4. "Some thoughts. **SPOILERS**"
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I'm coming in blind. Didn't watch any trailers and I'm not familiar with the books.

The only thing that bugged me was after their run-in in the small town.
After they were chased from the restaurant, and there's a high speed chase on the road
where they nearly escape thanks to an unknown assailant,
the very next scene they're sitting around a dinner table drinking and laughing.
The contrast of those two scenes together just didn't work.

And I get it, time probably didn't allow the showrunners the ability to show them coming down from the very odd encounter.
Time didn't allow them to bring any nuance and reflection to what happened. Still annoyed me.

I loved the nuance and care of how LovecraftCountry dealt with Jim Crow with the bus scene. Wonderfully done.
It was so much more powerful watching the characters go from sitting on
the side of the road to carrying their own bags. Again, loved that editing choice.

But it's the 1st episode, and I know 1st episodes have to do a lot of heavy lifting.
Love the Gordon Parks easter eggs.
The teaser at the end really gave me a better idea of the wide world they've created, so I'm intrigued to see where they go.

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5. "they do make a few liberties/differences from the book"
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But this scene in particular, they only discussed some of the situation with her brother. Didn't mention the car saving them or the fire truck jumping in mid air.

  

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7. "didn't like some of the changes from the book "
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Read it earlier this year but I remember the diner scene, Letitia deciding to join the road trip, and the forest scene all done better in the book.

Love the casting though and this looks like it will be an entertaining show, even if it does have some missteps. I'll have to stop comparing it to the novel, which I enjoyed a lot.

  

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6. "I only had two quibbles. That was one."
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The other was the rap music playing as Atticus walked down the street. Rap music (or most contemporary music) in period pieces is jarring and annoying.

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8. "Agreed."
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The contemporary music was something I meant to mention.

BUT, I'm willing to forgive them because of the James Baldwin montage and the Gordon Parks easter eggs...ha.
If they're gonna do more of those things, they can run Sault in there if they want...haha (I hope they don't).

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11. "hated that track in the hydrant scene"
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Some music I can ignore but that was so blatantly out of place to me.

  

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13. "werd, I was happy to see Wack getting some shine...."
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but I also hate when they put modern hip hop in period pieces.

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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Rick Ross song.

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9. "I was annoyed af at Courtny B's"
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Ignorance at the danger he put them through at the diner. Dude, youre in cracka town and saw one up and leave in a hurry..not to get away from you but you now it was to go gt some hicks with ropes and guns.

>I'm coming in blind. Didn't watch any trailers and I'm not
>familiar with the books.
>
>The only thing that bugged me was after their run-in in the
>small town.
>After they were chased from the restaurant, and there's a high
>speed chase on the road
>where they nearly escape thanks to an unknown assailant,
>the very next scene they're sitting around a dinner table
>drinking and laughing.
>The contrast of those two scenes together just didn't work.
>
>And I get it, time probably didn't allow the showrunners the
>ability to show them coming down from the very odd encounter.
>Time didn't allow them to bring any nuance and reflection to
>what happened. Still annoyed me.
>
>I loved the nuance and care of how LovecraftCountry dealt with
>Jim Crow with the bus scene. Wonderfully done.
>It was so much more powerful watching the characters go from
>sitting on
>the side of the road to carrying their own bags. Again, loved
>that editing choice.
>
>But it's the 1st episode, and I know 1st episodes have to do a
>lot of heavy lifting.
>Love the Gordon Parks easter eggs.
>The teaser at the end really gave me a better idea of the wide
>world they've created, so I'm intrigued to see where they go.

  

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10. "and then have no repurcussions"
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I don't understand how they skated away freely leaving a wrecked truck full of dead(?) white men behind.

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12. "I'm guessing ol' girl in the Rolls Royce cleared all that up..."
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>I don't understand how they skated away freely leaving a
>wrecked truck full of dead(?) white men behind.

  

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15. "remember, he's the guide writer.."
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>Ignorance at the danger he put them through at the diner.
>Dude, youre in cracka town and saw one up and leave in a
>hurry..not to get away from you but you now it was to go gt
>some hicks with ropes and guns.

nah he's been in that situation countless times...the whole reason they went there was to see if it was a good place for the guide or not so he was riding it out regardless...for his notes lol

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16. "RE: remember, he's the guide writer.."
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>>Ignorance at the danger he put them through at the diner.
>>Dude, youre in cracka town and saw one up and leave in a
>>hurry..not to get away from you but you now it was to go gt
>>some hicks with ropes and guns.
>
>nah he's been in that situation countless times...the whole
>reason they went there was to see if it was a good place for
>the guide or not so he was riding it out regardless...for his
>notes lol
>
>d


He didn't need to wait to see. It was already seen from jump. I know he's was the guide writer but still.

  

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17. "Right."
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Because he's the guide writer, he should be more attune to what's welcoming and what's not.
I thought his demeanor during that scene was off too.

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18. "it wasn't ignorance it was stubbornness/defiance"
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Yes he's the guide writer but he (and as you will see, his brother) are very much so 'Our money is just as good as anyone else's. This country belongs to us too'. So he KNEW the danger but he kept them in a fucked up situation out of pure stubbornness.

  

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20. "both....ignant that his stubbornness was gonna have them killed"
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regardless of what's righteous

>Yes he's the guide writer but he (and as you will see, his
>brother) are very much so 'Our money is just as good as anyone
>else's. This country belongs to us too'. So he KNEW the danger
>but he kept them in a fucked up situation out of pure
>stubbornness.


  

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14. "RE: Some thoughts. **SPOILERS**"
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>I'm coming in blind. Didn't watch any trailers and I'm not
>familiar with the books.

same here and i'm glad...the book readers gonna be constantly disappointed because they already have expectations/constant comparisons...i'm glad to get to enjoy the show on its merit, free of that.
>
>The only thing that bugged me was after their run-in in the
>small town.
>After they were chased from the restaurant, and there's a high
>speed chase on the road
>where they nearly escape thanks to an unknown assailant,
>the very next scene they're sitting around a dinner table
>drinking and laughing.
>The contrast of those two scenes together just didn't work.

I was initially taken aback by that, as well...then I saw it from a different perspective...that they are so used to the shit...their life is always in danger and some wild white-related shit happens so much that its like whatever, imma still enjoy life in these private times...and i kinda like that. Because its what we do now...we Black people live in a constant state of danger from white supremacy, perceived or not. Its just our lives and we're used to it.

  

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21. "Lovecraft Country HBO Podcast w/ Ashley C. Ford & writer Shannon Houston"
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https://youtu.be/sw0qB9hqPV8

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22. "Episode 02 - Whitey On The Moon"
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There are no rules.
I'm still processing this episode but I'm realizing that I can't cement my feet in this show being just one thing.

I'll have more thoughts later, but I will say I busted out laughing and IMMEDIATELY thought of this post when this episode started.
But in an odd way, by the end of the episode, I understood the music choice.

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23. "didn't like this episode at all"
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yea I'm being that person who read the book but what the fuck was this?

Also - this is why I stopped watching Underground in the middle of season 2. It felt TOO...hokey? Cringy? On the nose? None of those accurately display my distaste but....yikes

  

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....Atticus's Mom tho......who's the actress playing her??


Im hearing several folks having issues with this ep.
I did not. I had fun.
I will say that it probably coulda/shoulda been TWO episodes...there was enough to explore that I think it would have filled out 2 eps juuuust right.

this shows gonna make an all out star outta the lead Jonathan Majors. Dude owns this role. Same goes for Jurnee Smollett, I know she's been all over in a bunch of things, but I think this might be her 'breakout to the next level' role.






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25. "did you see him in The Last Black Man in San Francisco?"
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>this shows gonna make an all out star outta the lead Jonathan
>Majors. Dude owns this role.

he BODIED that film! his acting omg...if you haven't seen it, you must...i'm sure they cast him in this because of that.

  

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26. "Just went and re-binged Watchmen and now I am ready for this"
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I watched the first two episodes by my mind was wandering back to the Watchmen, comparing.

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27. "Episode 03 - Holy Ghost"
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I don't think Lovecraft Country is for me because I think it
leans towards adventure horror while I prefer dark thrillers.
I actually tend to forget there are horror elements in this show until they happen.
And when they do, I kinda roll my eyes a bit.

In an interview, Misha Green has said she's cramming a lot of story in each episode, and I can tell.
There's a lot going on. This episode, like the rest, actually felt like a stand alone with the focus being on this new house.
And then every once in a while they remind you that there's an overarching story that they're trying to tell, so they slide that in when they can.

There are moments of Lovecraft Country, especially this episode, that they really get right.
The beginning of this episode in the church did that.
And the scene in the basement when all of the 8 ghosts rose up around the white man that murdered them?
Very well done from the music and especially the visual effects.
When Atticus was possessed and was shouting? I really enjoyed that.

The overall story, I've lost interest.

It's not lost on me that shows like this with Black leads are rare,
so for those that have been clamoring for this, great. I hope they make 3 more of these. I just don't know if I can personally finish it.

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28. "I was confused at first."
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I was like “Oh, this must be an anthology” because Leti was so happy-go-lucky about the house. It totally felt like a one-off episode until the argument with Tic and his dad.

I’ve been to plenty old folks houses, and ain’t never seen a pencil sharpener on the wall.

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29. "I wasn't sure how they'd handle this...the book is 8 diff stories"
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characters are the same but the stories are diff. So it seems like they're combining some parts..which I don't love

  

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32. "Ah, ok. This explains the flow of it then."
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30. "lol, I have but it was in the basement or near the garage "
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31. "Ha."
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It was so prominent in the scene, I thought it meant something.

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36. "I thought it was a flashback episode until that scene."
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>I was like “Oh, this must be an anthology” because Leti
>was so happy-go-lucky about the house. It totally felt like a
>one-off episode until the argument with Tic and his dad.

  

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33. "do terrible CGI monsters continue throughout?"
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I hated the end of the first episode just due to how much you could see the monsters clearly looked like computer graphics, it was jarring...but the characters and plot outside of that was good, at times even great, but if it's going to continue to lead to wack CGI monsters I think I'm done with it

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34. "yeah. its doesnt ruin it but it is a mark against it"
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35. "They aren't the real monsters on the show, so I can live with it."
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39. "bruh. "
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37. "The bad CGI on baby head kind of made it creepier."
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38. "The third episode was a definite improvement"
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Second episode was just bad and pointlessly confusing. They did a very good job of creating a deeply creepy atmosphere. CGI was pretty shaky, but didn't detract from the actual story.

Hoping the second episode was an anomaly. Actually, recent HBO shows have a history where the second ep. is the worst.

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40. "Episode 04 - A History of Violence"
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I was kinda shaky on this one. It felt a little Scooby-Doo-ish piling almost every known character in Woody the OG Mysterymobile. I'm choosing to suspend disbelief that this museum in Boston magically transported them allllllll the way back to the fuckin house in the Chi.

I'm feeling like I don't really care for MKW's character, or at least the character choices. If he's not crying, he's raspy-whispering and it's hard to hear.

Tree was triggering this episode because I hate stir-the-pot ass niggas and goofy-ass niggas.

Hippolyta and Dee heading back to Ardham, dolo, after dark, made me anxious.

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42. "I stopped halfway through this ep....something is off for me"
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I agree about MKW's voice.

Maybe it's the pacing? It seems like they cram so much into episodes. Also the modern music choices realllllly bother me. That's any series but this episode had 304 from the 30 minutes I saw so far and I just rolled my eyes.

  

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45. "Oh yeah those are truly awful"
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>Also the modern music choices realllllly bother me.

The show hasn’t lost me yet but I don’t expect anything from it at this stage. Unless they massively tighten the remaining episodes this will be the TV disappointment of the year for me

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44. "Ohh, the sex scene = A History of Violence"
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Just figured that out via the accompanying podcast.

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41. "damn, y'all are harsh"
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I didn't have expectations going into this and have liked all of the first three episodes. the tonal shifts are fun.

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47. "i know right? i wish this was a post of folks that like the show"
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and actually want to talk about it and engage with it instead of the constant complaints

i'll stick to the post in GD...this one is trash

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46. "I finished the fourth ep and I'm tapping out"
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The pacing is ridiculous. And the creative liberties (what I'm calling the things on the show that differ from the novel) taken do not enhance the story at all. Atticus is not as sympathetic of a character as he could be and I'm....I'm over it. Him choking the woman to death in ep 2 almost took me out but after these past two weeks I really am tapped.

  

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48. "Episode 7. If you are out, you need to be back in. That is all. Trust me..."
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49. "considering this episode..."
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I haven't watched the past 2 weeks but they might get me back with this one

  

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56. "its really good...come on back"
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the history lessons embedded in each episode alone are worth it

Misha Green is serving us artistry and nuance in each wild ass episode...here you have a Black story told from the perspective of a Black woman...

come on now...even if you don't love it, at least respect the fact that WE get to tell these stories at this level right now.

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59. "honestly even if you don't like the show this ep is worth a watch"
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if you've seen the first two episodes. i think any black woman would love this week's ep

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50. "episode 6 was really strong as well"
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51. "I loved episode 6. It was extremely unpopular with Black Women. "
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The sentiment being that Tic's love scenes with Ji-Ah were given more detail than the loves scenes with Letti.

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52. "we're not a monolith so please stop that."
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there was nothing wrong at all with those love scenes..the episode was fantastic and was so much more rich and deep than just focusing on how they shot the sex.



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53. "It was extremely unpopular with Black women that I know personally."
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I loved the episode...but the commentary that I read/listened to multiple times was exactly what I stated. I felt it was worth commenting on that because men in general were cool with the episode primarily because they found Ji-ah attractive, which I felt was a shallow take, and I felt the criticism I heard from Black women reflected a more nuanced look at not only what happened on screen, but the decisions in how to film what happened on screen. I respected that so I shared it.

I loved the episode for different reasons. One I feel that in world building, when Black writers and filmmakers build worlds we don't fall into the myopic lens of only focusing on stories within the story that are specific to our culture. Something as simple as when the Americans arrive and they are tossing leaflets at the Koreans, this was filmed from the perspective of the occupied. That was important. We see the intricacies of Ji-Ah's relationship with her mother, and the difficulties that Ji-ah experiences in someways mirrors Tic's relationship with Montrose. This made their relationship more tangible. The Korean shaman....that was powerful to see Asian spirituality that isn't tied to Buddhism depicted...and of course the Kumiho was powerful, and again tying it the cultural mores, illuminating in how it played into Ji-Ah's mother yearning for respectability in her community. The same abuse, silence and struggle regarding patriarchy .....that was the monster in Ji-Ah's world. That was what I saw, and in response, what I heard mostly was about how Tic and Ji-Ah were handled differently than Tic and Letti.

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55. "fair enough"
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>I loved the episode...but the commentary that I read/listened
>to multiple times was exactly what I stated. I felt it was
>worth commenting on that because men in general were cool with
>the episode primarily because they found Ji-ah attractive,
>which I felt was a shallow take, and I felt the criticism I
>heard from Black women reflected a more nuanced look at not
>only what happened on screen, but the decisions in how to film
>what happened on screen. I respected that so I shared it.

I would agree w/that if the showrunner wasn't a Black woman...i give Misha Green the benefit of the doubt here in the way she's choosing to tell these stories visually.


>I loved the episode for different reasons. One I feel that in
>world building, when Black writers and filmmakers build worlds
>we don't fall into the myopic lens of only focusing on stories
>within the story that are specific to our culture. Something
>as simple as when the Americans arrive and they are tossing
>leaflets at the Koreans, this was filmed from the perspective
>of the occupied. That was important. We see the intricacies
>of Ji-Ah's relationship with her mother, and the difficulties
>that Ji-ah experiences in someways mirrors Tic's relationship
>with Montrose. This made their relationship more tangible. The
>Korean shaman....that was powerful to see Asian spirituality
>that isn't tied to Buddhism depicted...and of course the
>Kumiho was powerful, and again tying it the cultural mores,
>illuminating in how it played into Ji-Ah's mother yearning for
>respectability in her community. The same abuse, silence and
>struggle regarding patriarchy .....that was the monster in
>Ji-Ah's world.

really great observations and analyses and I agree wholeheartedly...the layers and parallels are just so well thought out.

That was what I saw, and in response, what I
>heard mostly was about how Tic and Ji-Ah were handled
>differently than Tic and Letti.

i hear you. that is a factual surface observation though. i wonder if anyone dug deeper into the why...especially from the perspective of a Black show runner.

if this show were made by someone else, i could definitely see assuming racism or anti Blackness had a hand...

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58. "RE: fair enough"
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>>I loved the episode...but the commentary that I
>read/listened
>>to multiple times was exactly what I stated. I felt it was
>>worth commenting on that because men in general were cool
>with
>>the episode primarily because they found Ji-ah attractive,
>>which I felt was a shallow take, and I felt the criticism I
>>heard from Black women reflected a more nuanced look at not
>>only what happened on screen, but the decisions in how to
>film
>>what happened on screen. I respected that so I shared it.
>
>I would agree w/that if the showrunner wasn't a Black
>woman...i give Misha Green the benefit of the doubt here in
>the way she's choosing to tell these stories visually.

Agreed, but my folks weren't trying to hear it. I think given the level of rigor that Green has exerted in creating cultural references and such, especially after seeing episode 7, that she would not overlook that aspect of how we see Letti and Tic's relationship depicted.


>>I loved the episode for different reasons. One I feel that
>in
>>world building, when Black writers and filmmakers build
>worlds
>>we don't fall into the myopic lens of only focusing on
>stories
>>within the story that are specific to our culture.
>Something
>>as simple as when the Americans arrive and they are tossing
>>leaflets at the Koreans, this was filmed from the
>perspective
>>of the occupied. That was important. We see the intricacies
>>of Ji-Ah's relationship with her mother, and the
>difficulties
>>that Ji-ah experiences in someways mirrors Tic's
>relationship
>>with Montrose. This made their relationship more tangible.
>The
>>Korean shaman....that was powerful to see Asian spirituality
>>that isn't tied to Buddhism depicted...and of course the
>>Kumiho was powerful, and again tying it the cultural mores,
>>illuminating in how it played into Ji-Ah's mother yearning
>for
>>respectability in her community. The same abuse, silence
>and
>>struggle regarding patriarchy .....that was the monster in
>>Ji-Ah's world.
>
>really great observations and analyses and I agree
>wholeheartedly...the layers and parallels are just so well
>thought out.
>
> That was what I saw, and in response, what I
>>heard mostly was about how Tic and Ji-Ah were handled
>>differently than Tic and Letti.
>
>i hear you. that is a factual surface observation though. i
>wonder if anyone dug deeper into the why...especially from the
>perspective of a Black show runner.
>
>if this show were made by someone else, i could definitely see
>assuming racism or anti Blackness had a hand...


Given the amount of podcasts and think pieces, we'll find out eventually.

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54. "really dug the latest 3 eps..."
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"Strange Case", "Meet Me in Daegu" & "I Am."

"Strange" & "Meet" were intense with the situations & themes, and some truly impressive performances from all involved (Wunmi Mosaku as "Ruby" is becoming my fave, so impressed with her work on this show.) And the "I Am" Ep was such a fun ride, with some groovy and quirky visuals...i had a good time.



have you listened to
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57. "I was introduced to Wunmi on the last season of Luther"
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She was perfect in the role. Just saw a tweet that she'll be in an upcoming horror film as well.

  

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60. "His House (Netflix) Oct. 30th. Looks good."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYY0QJhlXjc


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61. "RE: Lovecraft Country (HBO) Premiere's August 16th"
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For real!?! No discussion about either of the last two episodes? WOW!
Honestly this show has stepped it up. This shows depiction and horror of Tulsa was gut wrenching.

  

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62. "...more than the last two, the last 4 or 5..."
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...heck, more than just the last two, the last 4 or 5 have been consistently impressive, expansive, thrilling & fun. we love having this as our 'Sunday night show'.




have you listened to
her stuff?
v

http://www.meshell.com/site/
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http://www.freemyheart.com


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63. "do you go back to a restaurant after 4-5 so-so meals? "
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64. "Muhphuckas on here are clearly Alfred Hitchcock or Scorcese."
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no use casting pearls amongst swine.

But god forbid its a Terrence Malick film.

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65. "PTP Hates Black Series "
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But GD doesn't

>For real!?! No discussion about either of the last two
>episodes? WOW!
>Honestly this show has stepped it up. This shows depiction and
>horror of Tulsa was gut wrenching.

  

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66. "This post has been updated nearly twenty times in the last month."
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That honestly might make it the most active post of the month in PTP, lol.

There just isn't that much regular discussion on PTP anymore. Weekly discussion has tended to move to GD or the myriad FB groups.

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67. "awesome journey."
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really fun, statement-making TV that didn't follow all the same beats of modern series. loved it from start to finish.

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68. "Documentary on the making of the series is pretty damn awesome too"
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you get to see ALL the layers. Folks put in work.

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