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"Matrix 4 (Lana Wachoski, 20??)"


  

          

Let's hope it doesn't suck!

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/matrix-4-keanu-reeves-carrie-anne-moss-lana-wachowski-1203307955/

Get ready to re-enter the Matrix.

Lana Wachowski is set to write and direct a fourth film set in the world of “The Matrix,” with Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss reprising their roles as Neo and Trinity, respectively.

Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures will produce and globally distribute the film. Warner Bros. Picture Group chairman Toby Emmerich made the announcement on Tuesday.

“We could not be more excited to be re-entering ‘The Matrix’ with Lana,” said Emmerich. “Lana is a true visionary—a singular and original creative filmmaker—and we are thrilled that she is writing, directing and producing this new chapter in ‘The Matrix’ universe.”

In addition to Wachowski, the script was also written by Aleksander Hemon and David Mitchell. Wachowski is also producing with Grant Hill. Sources say the film is eyed to begin production at the top of 2020.


The three previous films —“The Matrix,” “The Matrix Reloaded” and “The Matrix Revolutions” — have collectively earned more than $1.6 billion at the global box office. All three were written and directed by Lana and her sister, Lilly, and starred Reeves and Moss.

“Many of the ideas Lilly and I explored 20 years ago about our reality are even more relevant now. I’m very happy to have these characters back in my life and grateful for another chance to work with my brilliant friends,” Wachowski said.

The first “Matrix” had its 20th anniversary this year, marked by special screenings at select AMC locations starting on Aug. 30.

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RE: Matrix 4 (Lana Wachoski, 20??)
Aug 20th 2019
1
Curious to see how they bring them back
Aug 20th 2019
2
Correct.
Aug 20th 2019
3
Just like the first one, my expectations are low.
Aug 21st 2019
4
Is There Really A Need To Do Another Matrix Movie?
Aug 21st 2019
5
i didnt realize both wachowskis were trans now.
Aug 21st 2019
6
nah, I'm good
Aug 21st 2019
7
Oscar winning DP John Toll in negotiations to shoot this
Aug 22nd 2019
9
no one seems to mention that Lily Warchowski is not involved
Aug 23rd 2019
11
Exhaustion was the cited reason.
Sep 10th 2021
16
Trailer...this looks DOPE.
Sep 09th 2021
12
No idea what’s going on but I wanna see more.
Sep 09th 2021
13
I think the recreation of things from the first movie has more clues
Sep 10th 2021
21
It does, I’m in!
Sep 09th 2021
14
It's going to be fucking incredible.
Sep 10th 2021
15
im surprised they let him look so similar to john wick.
Sep 10th 2021
17
They probably had too
Sep 10th 2021
18
      Yeah at this point the John Wick look IS Keanu's default look.
Sep 10th 2021
19
      Yeah, Keanu shouldn't go clean shaven anymore.
Sep 10th 2021
20
           Damn, son.
Sep 10th 2021
22
           lmao
Sep 13th 2021
27
           *Plays Ether*
Sep 13th 2021
29
It really does. I wasn't really looking forward to this until now.
Sep 10th 2021
23
like 2 and 3 never existed..good
Sep 10th 2021
24
Aesthetically it looks great
Sep 11th 2021
25
      I thought the first was going to bomb.
Sep 11th 2021
26
      all I remember is that I had no clue what it was about until I saw it
Sep 14th 2021
31
      Weird. I think its one of the all time great trailers.
Sep 13th 2021
28
           I never thought they nailed bullet time in the first movie
Sep 14th 2021
30
                At the time of that trailer I thought it would be Total Recall with
Sep 15th 2021
32

go mack
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1. "RE: Matrix 4 (Lana Wachoski, 20??)"
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Well, the best part of that is to see Matrix 1 in Imax August 30th now. lol Idk, I would love for another good Matrix movie but will see what we get. Keanu is having a resurgence now so why not.

  

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2. "Curious to see how they bring them back"
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they all basically died at the end of the last film, right?

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3. "Correct."
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>they all basically died at the end of the last film, right?
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obsidianchrysalis
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4. "Just like the first one, my expectations are low."
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The first one was just lightning in a bottle. No shade. It's rare for any filmmaker to have a movie which altered filmmaking to such a degree much less be able to do it throughout a trilogy.

But I don't see anything in their filmography which suggests this new movie will be great. Granted, if they've been working on the script for years, that might help. (Lana and Lilly worked on the first Matrix for eight years before filming.)

Then again, I thought the first one would be trash judging from the trailer, so...

  

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5. "Is There Really A Need To Do Another Matrix Movie?"
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The three movies and the one animated one was enough for me, it ended but not what I wanted it to but to me it should be left alone and time to create some other movies similar but not addition to it though.

These days no movie is taboo to touch, every movie is fair game to be remade, being re-casted, or making more sequels/prequels to.

I guess it's all opinions and we just have to wait and see, what happens, happens, it might be good, it might be bad.


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6. "i didnt realize both wachowskis were trans now."
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i was reading this like 'who the hell is lilly?'.

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7. "nah, I'm good"
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I also noticed how it said that Lana is working on it, but not both of the sisters.

Are they no longer working together?

That gives me even less confidence in them. But in general I've had it with this series

  

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9. "Oscar winning DP John Toll in negotiations to shoot this "
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/braveheart-cinematographer-john-toll-boarding-matrix-4-1233871

UGUST 22, 2019 3:09pm PT by Carolyn Giardina

'Braveheart' Cinematographer John Toll Boarding 'Matrix 4'
The two-time Oscar winner's credits include "Legends of the Fall,' 'The Thin Red Line' and 'Iron Man 3.'

The two-time Oscar winner's credits include "Legends of the Fall,' 'The Thin Red Line' and 'Iron Man 3.'
Cinematographer John Toll, who won two back-to-back Oscars for his work for Edward Zwick's Legends of the Fall in 1994 and Mel Gibson's Braveheart in 1995, is in negotiations to shoot the new Matrix movie, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

Lana Wachowski, who co-created the trilogy with Lilly Wachowski, is returning to the director's chair for the endeavor, and Toll's deal, when closed, will reunite him with the filmmaker, for whom he shot features Cloud Atlas, Jupiter Ascending, and the Wachowskis' Netflix series, Sense8.

Matrix 4 is also bringing back Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss to their roles as Neo and Trinity. Warner Bros. and Village Roadshow are backing the return of the action franchise.

The DP's additional credits include Terrence Malick's The Thin Red Line (for which he earned a third Oscar nomination), as well as Almost Famous, The Last Samurai, Iron Man 3, Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and the pilot for series Breaking Bad. He received the American Society of Cinematographers Lifetime Achievement Award in 2016.

Toll's next film is Harriet, directed by Kasi Lemmons and staring Cynthia Erivo, which is slated to open Nov 1.

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11. "no one seems to mention that Lily Warchowski is not involved"
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Are they not still working together? Did Lily (wisely) pass on this?

  

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16. "Exhaustion was the cited reason."
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She said she was exhausted after Jupiter Ascending, Sense8, and coming out as trans, and she just didn't really want to go through this big an undertaking. Makes sense, honestly. Hope she gets back into filmmaking soon, though.

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12. "Trailer...this looks DOPE."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ix7TUGVYIo

  

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13. "No idea what’s going on but I wanna see more."
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I guess they’ll go into what the over-verbose Colonel Sanders said, that there’s definitely always a Neo/The One, but there’s also always a Morpheus to awaken him, there’s always a Trinity to fall in love with.

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21. "I think the recreation of things from the first movie has more clues"
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than just this is a soft reboot of that movie with some of the same actors and some different people in similar roles.

Two things could be going on IMO: the Matrix is multiple layers, and the Matrix was just the, like, core layer where the code gets written.

Or, Neo is currently plugged into his own custom version of the Matrix/life support, because if he hasn't died then the cycle can't restart and it's how the machines/humans maintain the peace, but it also means he's trapped in a sort of Groundhog Day scenario


all I really know is I hope it pays off, and this isn't just another Aliens/Terminator type situation!

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14. "It does, I’m in!"
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15. "It's going to be fucking incredible."
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Visuals alone are going to smoke, like 98% of studio output.

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17. "im surprised they let him look so similar to john wick."
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18. "They probably had too"
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you got a whole generation of yougin's that know him as John Wick. That and have you seen him without the beard? When he shaved for Bill and Ted it was rough. That chin is gone fam

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19. "Yeah at this point the John Wick look IS Keanu's default look."
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You can see him in the trailer with his hair and beard shaved though - when he's not plugged into the matrix.

>you got a whole generation of yougin's that know him as John
>Wick. That and have you seen him without the beard? When he
>shaved for Bill and Ted it was rough. That chin is gone fam

  

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20. "Yeah, Keanu shouldn't go clean shaven anymore."
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Dude's body and eyes look young, but his jaw does not.

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22. "Damn, son."
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>Dude's body and eyes look young, but his jaw does not.

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27. "lmao"
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29. "*Plays Ether*"
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23. "It really does. I wasn't really looking forward to this until now."
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Now I can't wait.

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24. "like 2 and 3 never existed..good"
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25. "Aesthetically it looks great"
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They color-timed the scenes marvelously.

But I'm also not terribly excited. It looks closer to Reloaded than the OG Matrix because there didn't seem to be the esoteric symbolism of the first. Seems more action movie than more than the sum of its parts like the first movie in the series.

But then again, I didn't like the trailer for the first movie and ended up watching the actual movie literally one hundred times...

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26. "I thought the first was going to bomb."
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Seemed like some Johnny Mnemonic shit from the trailer. I immediately wrote it off and didn't see it for the first week or two. I was dumb.

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31. "all I remember is that I had no clue what it was about until I saw it"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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28. "Weird. I think its one of the all time great trailers. "
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I can't think of another trailer that had me more intrigued than this one. That Bullet time?! Whew.

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30. "I never thought they nailed bullet time in the first movie"
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I was an effects geek at the time, and 22, when the first one came out so I was jaded and spoiled. LOL

But I didn't like Reeves as Neo in the trailer and the dialogue just felt really flat. Like Longo, it just came off as cliched sci-fi to me.

Obviously, I was wrong. I'm gonna have to wear that L to the grave. LOL

But in this new trailer, the effects are great, but I didn't see anything in the story that sold me.

That being said, I'll watch this new one in the theater. I just don't have much of an expectation given how long it's been since the Revolutions and that 2 and 3 did not do justice to the first one.

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32. "At the time of that trailer I thought it would be Total Recall with"
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better special effects. Which ended up being kinda accurate, but the story was much, much better than I'd anticipated.

1999 was a crazy time for films...special effects were hitting the borderline phase where as a viewer we knew anything was possible (which could take away a bit of the amazement), but you still had films doing things that hadn't been done before so that amazement would still be there in the theater.

On top of that the Matrix was one of the first big films I remember going all in with the internet based marketing campaign (along with Blair Witch), with the website having all kinds of background lore before the film was out.

  

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