there was a thread in 08 comparing the first two. now that all 4 have been released, i'm curious to see as to what series you guys prefer.
in my opinion, its Ironman by twelve thousand million light years (c) Stephen Hawking
seriously. if that "get off my set!!" motherfucker intrigued you more than RDjr then you are just a blind Batman lover.
Liam fucking NEESON? barehanded asswhooping of a full suited Batman? "we sacked Rome!!" get the fuck out of here please.
TDK was decent. even though it forgot it was a movie about a crybaby rich kid who wanted a city prosecutor to take his place. fuckin quitter.
Ironman, as a superhero, is 10x better than Batman. again, Liam Neeson almost knocked his ass out on that train. Ironman would annihilate him.
i've had this debate with my friends and im the only one who likes the Ironman series over the Batman series, but hopefully some of you on here agree with me.
39. "I still pick it over BB, but it all comes down to tone for me" In response to Reply # 21
I'm not really pitting the artistic merits of 2 superhero movies against each other. For me it's more about which comic book fantasy world I want to inhabit for a couple of hours. The Iron Man films are just more fun to watch, plain and simple. I'd rather tag along with that dude than brooding ass, growling, getting-outshined-in-his-own-damn-movie Batman.
17. "Hectic is right, Iron Man is better than Batman" In response to Reply # 0
The dumb batman groul, the terrible women actresses, the end of TDK with the voice over and Batman running from the law. The whole Joker plot to get caught, only to escape was beyind ridiculous as well. The ultimate killer is Batman takes itself way way too serious.
Oh and all the stupid fan boys dressing up like Joker = huge L.
24. "what problem did people have with maggie?" In response to Reply # 17 Fri May-21-10 11:42 AM by thoughtprocess
>the terrible women actresses,
i honestly don't get that one.
> and Batman running from the law.
>The whole Joker plot to get caught, only to escape was beyind >ridiculous as well.
not to be all "but it happens in the comics" on you, but cmon. have you never followed batman before? there were plotholes with the execution of joker's plan, of course, but as far as a plan goes, it makes sense for him.
>Oh and all the stupid fan boys dressing up like Joker = huge >L.
lol, and people dress up like Boba Fett, yet i still enjoy star wars. nolan didn't dress those people.
55. "the Rachel character just sucked in general" In response to Reply # 24
the studio tried to build up a love interest for Batman, as is required in all major releases, but Begins had a staid Katie Holmes and The Dark Knight didn't improve her with a boring and not-Bruce-Wayne-hot Maggie Gyllenhaal.
he's Batman! mfer ain't losing his shit over some plain jane assistant in city court.
56. "RE: the Rachel character just sucked in general" In response to Reply # 55
>the studio tried to build up a love interest for Batman, as >is required in all major releases, but Begins had a staid >Katie Holmes and The Dark Knight didn't improve her with a >boring and not-Bruce-Wayne-hot Maggie Gyllenhaal. she was just sooo ugly. that shit was hard to look at. katie holmes is annoying as fuck but at least she's good to the eyes. when the joker said "you ARE beautiful" that's the point i knew he was truly demented and insane.
>he's Batman! mfer ain't losing his shit over some plain jane >assistant in city court. that part i could actually buy since the billionaire playboy persona is for show, it would take someone without the flash who has history or some deeper connection for him to care. but DAMN why she gotta be so ugly?
it didn't mess up the movie for me, perhaps that's why she had to die to bring in something hot next time.
18. "Loved TDK, haven't seen IM 2, but will be soon" In response to Reply # 0
so i'll refrain from voting until i do.
however, one question?
for all the stupid things people say happened in TDK, why has no one mentioned how dumb it was that stane left tony alive in his house which allowed pepper to save him?
ras-al ghoul leaving bruce alive made sense because fair was fair and there was a code to that. other than that, bats never got hemmed up by anybody like that.
but stane tried to murk out stark on multiple occasions, why not finish it for certain?
if you're gonna tax TDK for anything, CANNOT let IM off the hook for that bullshit.
20. "Don't agree but I respect your opinion. " In response to Reply # 0
If it's Bale vs. RDJr. Then the Downy got this. His acting and character is far more interesting and fun to see.
As for the villains. See, Batman got this. I didn't care about the Iron Man villains. If you ask me what was the difference between the two in IM and IM2? Then again you can also asked about Ra's Al Ghul and The Joker.
Overall I think it comes down to hype. I guess TDK met the hype. __________________________________________
23. "I know is there's not enough Iron Man stans taking their Iron Man 2 L's " In response to Reply # 0
During The Dark Knight vs. Iron Man debates, a lot of cats here were claiming the Iron Man sequel would end up being better than The Dark Knight. And that the only reason The Dark Knight was winning the debate vs. Iron Man was because of the it's unfair to compare an origin story with one that didn't have to waste anytime setting up one.
Well...turn the chapter a few years later & what's the excuse now?
For the record I actually prefer both origin flicks being compared here to their sequels. But for all gripes & complaints about The Dark Knight (some valid, some silly) it's still slaughtered Iron Man 2 on every level.
26. "True, but for what it's worth..." In response to Reply # 23
Iron Man was as great an origin movie as I can think of. Better than Batman Begins for sure. It got compared to TDK because it came out a month before, but the first IM was the entire shit - and mostly because as a character, Tony Stark is the shit. He's not boring, and you're not just waiting for him to become his superhero character.
29. "I liked the first Iron Man a lot but Batman Begins still gets the nod " In response to Reply # 26
>Iron Man was as great an origin movie as I can think of. >Better than Batman Begins for sure. It got compared to TDK >because it came out a month before, but the first IM was the >entire shit - and mostly because as a character, Tony Stark is >the shit. He's not boring, and you're not just waiting for him >to become his superhero character.
See I didn't find Bale boring as Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins. I loved the set up stuff with him & Liam Nesson, Morgan Freeman, & of course Michael Caine. RDJ clearly had the better performance between the two leads. But when I consider everything else in terms of direction, supporting performances, (don't sleep on Cillian Murphy) cinematography, score, etc...etc...I still prefer Batman Begins.
34. "RE: I liked the first Iron Man a lot but Batman Begins still gets the no..." In response to Reply # 29
i agree...i think Bruce Wayne got a lil' boring in TDK but in Begins he was awesome and the overall movie was better than Iron Man if you ask me. Dont get me wrong, I loved Iron Man and RDJ was incredible in it but he alone is the one thing that stands up higher than anything else in Begins...the rest of the cast was fairly forgettable. He really carried that movie but Begins had alot more going for it then its leading man.
30. "Stark's the best "alter-ego"" In response to Reply # 26 Fri May-21-10 01:07 PM by SoulHonky
Clark Kent's boring, Peter Parker is a dweeb, even Bruce Wayne is kind of stiff. Yeah, he'll whisk an entire ballet troupe off at the drop of a hat but he's tortured and it seems like he's living the high life as a front and not really enjoying it.
Stark loves his money, owns is rakishness, and is basically doing what most people would do if they were a wealthy, superhero - livin' it up.
On the other hand, Iron Man has the worst villains. The villains are basically people just like Iron Man. It's Tony Stark's partner with an Iron Man suit. Now it's the bitter Russian scientist with an Iron Man suit.
36. "uhhh, that's PART of the character." In response to Reply # 30
it seems >like he's living the high life as a front and not really >enjoying it.
like a HUGE part. in every adaptation except for the animated series i believe.
>On the other hand, Iron Man has the worst villains. The >villains are basically people just like Iron Man. It's Tony >Stark's partner with an Iron Man suit. Now it's the bitter >Russian scientist with an Iron Man suit.
This is my problem with the franchise, especially the first one. i never really thought he had competition and Obadiah wasn't that exciting a villain.
41. "I dont understand the I2 hate, personally " In response to Reply # 23
>Well...turn the chapter a few years later & what's the excuse >now?
there is no excuse!!! TDK is more of a decent crime drama than a SUPERHERO MOVIE. TDK tried being Law and Order Crybaby Douche Unit. and failed miserably. like I said, a superhero tried quitting in order to pursue a woman who on a good day looks like the back of an orange '87 Toyota Corolla. really? Superheros try and turn over their duties to city prosecutors now? can you address that for me.
>For the record I actually prefer both origin flicks being >compared here to their sequels. But for all gripes & >complaints about The Dark Knight (some valid, some silly) it's >still slaughtered Iron Man 2 on every level.
it doesnt slaughter anything!!! at all. the Joker was good, but Get Off My Set was even WORSE than in BBegins. if your Superhero sucks, the movie sucks. and although I2 didn't utilize Mickey Rourke as much as i'd like, he was still really good. the action scenes were awesome. and you know you laughed a lot too. this movie was the total package. Law and Order was dull, too long, and used parts of DAREDEVIL to try and look cool. please.
Scarlett using them thighs to incapacitate enemies didnt flip ur skirt up just a little Jigga? come on!
42. "it wasn't bad per se, just didn't live up to expectations" In response to Reply # 41
>there is no excuse!!! TDK is more of a decent crime drama than >a SUPERHERO MOVIE.
well bats is called the world's greatest detective, not the world's greatest superhero, isn't he?
TDK tried being Law and Order Crybaby >Douche Unit. and failed miserably.
failed all the way to a billion dollars worldwide. if only we could all fail so spectacularly.
>like I said, a superhero >tried quitting in order to pursue a woman who on a good day >looks like the back of an orange '87 Toyota Corolla. really?
that was Superman II, not TDK. she wasn't the reason bruce was trying to quit.
>Superheros try and turn over their duties to city prosecutors >now? can you address that for me.
why? the movie already did that.
>it doesnt slaughter anything!!! at all. the Joker was good, >but Get Off My Set was even WORSE than in BBegins. if your >Superhero sucks, the movie sucks. and although I2 didn't
the Joker was great & he carried the movie. Rourke was sorta cool but as a supervillian whiplash was kinda underwhelming.
>utilize Mickey Rourke as much as i'd like, he was still really >good. the action scenes were awesome. and you know you >laughed a lot too. this movie was the total package. Law and
it was far from the total package.
>Scarlett using them thighs to incapacitate enemies didnt flip >ur skirt up just a little Jigga? come on!
she was nice eye candy but pretty pointless in the movie.
43. "N Sync sold records. who cares. so Titanic is the best movie ever now?" In response to Reply # 42
i dont care if it did numbers. it still isn't better than Ironman.
so he's a detective now and not a superhero? he's a quitter. if im a resident of Gotham, please give me Ironman over that emo growling gets-his-ass-kicked-in-Asian-prisons-bitch.
45. "Batman series is better. " In response to Reply # 43
>i dont care if it did numbers. it still isn't better than >Ironman. > >so he's a detective now and not a superhero? he's a quitter. >if im a resident of Gotham, please give me Ironman over that >emo growling gets-his-ass-kicked-in-Asian-prisons-bitch.
at his core, batman is a detective, and crime-fighter. bats is heroic, not a superhero. he is very often portrayed as an anti-hero. he may not be the "superhero" that iron man is, but he is the more likely to set an objective and see it through to the end. iron man 2 didn't even contain that many heroic moments. rdj barely even put on the suit. think about it. the only time he was ever in danger was when he had the short battle with mickey in the beginning, then the battle at the end.
the movies were neck & neck with the origin stories, but iron man 2 (though i did enjoy it overall), fell way short of its mark. though i am a fan of both franchises ... bb, and tdk lays down a whole lotta guano on the iron man movies.
57. "It's not even hate. It just wasn't as good as the 1st or either Bat flic..." In response to Reply # 41
>>Well...turn the chapter a few years later & what's the >excuse >>now? > >there is no excuse!!! TDK is more of a decent crime drama than >a SUPERHERO MOVIE.
This is more of a plea cop an another excuse
although I2 didn't >utilize Mickey Rourke as much as i'd like, he was still really >good.
At what? Mumbling with a bad accent? He didn't do shit besides what was already shown in the trailer. He was really good in Sin City. He was wasted here.
51. "how the fuck has this thread become so vaginal?" In response to Reply # 0
If I hear one more motherfucker talking about who's "more fun" and how many times a rapper quotes them, or who's life one would rather have....
every male born before 1992 knows the difference between batman and ironman. why all of a sudden this has become a bleeding vagina fest of "who makes me feel better" is BEYOND me.
within their universes, both characters and movies have WORKED, period. they should be judged accordingly. you fucking think batman is now a wisecracking happy go lucky dude? compare their respective origins and places at life when they became their personas..
i mean shit i'm not explaining this to you dumb fucks who don't get it.
i was going to post my comments after seeing Iron Man 2 but at this point this shit has gotten so vaginal i don't even give a fuck.
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64. "I maintain that Iron Man 1 is better than either Batman." In response to Reply # 61
But Iron Man 2 is probably worse than both.
Either way, to try to determine which is "more" successful on the whole is kind of a moot point when overall both succeeded so immensely, flaws and all.
69. "I agree (and actually liked IM2)" In response to Reply # 64
but I'm not sure the Iron Man series knows where it's going, or if it wants to be anything more than a lead-in to the Avengers. The Batman series, even with its flaws (technically because of them with gordon's whole speech at the end), feels like it's still going somewhere. We shall see, but I think the Batman series is winning right now.
75. "first Iron Man was the most "fun" movie, Batman Begins was more serious" In response to Reply # 0
better storyline I thought. I go with Batman Begins. Dark Knight went on too long whereas Iron Man 2 had weak fight scenes.
Overall I lean towards Batman. I could be biases since I understand the batman story/characters a little more and therefore able to pick up on the subtle comic book references. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to the Avengers/Iron Man universe.
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