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WarriorPoet415
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"Poll question: Which Movie Was the Weak Link in the Die Hard series????"
Wed Nov-19-08 03:41 PM by WarriorPoet415

  

          

I always initially thought the third one was the weakest.

I mean, let's look at it: it broke the isolated locale one man against many that the first two had. The whole Simon says thing was fairly silly.

But it looks like according to a few sites that Die Hard 2 is the lowest rated. Now I have a clear bias as Die Hard 2 was in theaters when I was a teenage movie theater usher (I got to see it free over and over again) and it was the first official movie I owned (suncoast, bitches) and I watched it over and over again. I mean the joint had John Amos!

However, now in 2008, while I still think Die Hard series is still the most ass-kickin' action franchise ever, I gotta ask myself, which one is the weak link, cause my view towards DHWAV definitely improved over time. I'll still include all the movies so that the assorted yahoos can vote...

Which one's the weakest and why?

Poll result (45 votes)
Die Hard (1 votes)Vote
Die Hard 2: Die Harder (21 votes)Vote
Die Hard With a Vengeance (4 votes)Vote
Live Free or Die Hard (19 votes)Vote

  

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
die harder or
Nov 19th 2008
1
Die Hard IS fantastic tho
Nov 19th 2008
2
yep...2 is just missing something
Nov 19th 2008
3
      jesus will cmon
Nov 20th 2008
11
           as if I could lose anymore respect for a Pats fan...
Nov 20th 2008
14
                says the guy who likes Live Free or Die Hard..
Nov 20th 2008
15
                     my movie theater was riveted...best summer flick of 2007
Nov 20th 2008
18
                          that was the worse movie i ever seen in theaters
Nov 21st 2008
27
                               I don't care
Nov 21st 2008
29
                                    RE: I don't care
Nov 21st 2008
37
                                         still don't care
Nov 21st 2008
39
                                         You misspelled "fantastic."
Nov 21st 2008
40
                                              nah i think i got it right
Nov 22nd 2008
41
The one with the weakest villain sittin behind a computer the whole time
Nov 19th 2008
4
Exactly. Shit was dumb.
Nov 19th 2008
5
But he HACKED THE INTERNETS!
Dec 01st 2008
45
      And I hacked up a lugi & spit it on the screen
Dec 01st 2008
46
Here's the order
Nov 19th 2008
6
he basically was what McClane would be at that age.
Nov 20th 2008
7
      Nah
Nov 22nd 2008
42
RE: Which Movie Was the Weak Link in the Die Hard series????
Nov 20th 2008
8
That last one. I want my fucking money back.
Nov 20th 2008
9
#2.
Nov 20th 2008
10
you too with LFoDH at #2? we must have seen different movies
Nov 20th 2008
12
      I don't know what's wrong with these people
Nov 20th 2008
16
           I almost walked out, it was embarassing - shouldn't have been made
Nov 20th 2008
17
                I heard the complaints and went in expecting a superhero movie
Nov 20th 2008
20
                     and it's not like 3 was super realistic anyway...
Nov 20th 2008
23
                          True. But LFoDH was extra.
Nov 20th 2008
24
The last one is borderline UNWATCHABLE
Nov 20th 2008
13
How the fuck do you come up with the third one being the best???
Nov 21st 2008
25
now *this* is a terrible opinion
Nov 21st 2008
30
The last one is a CLASSIC.
Nov 20th 2008
19
Not a classic, but a damn good ride. Worthy entry in the series....
Nov 21st 2008
26
Die Harder, due to the lack of good supporting characters.
Nov 20th 2008
21
Good call.
Nov 20th 2008
22
      Olyphant was terrible. He sat on his ass the whole movie.
Nov 21st 2008
32
      Die Hard villains all spent 80% of the movie talking on a walkie.
Nov 21st 2008
33
           Fair enough. But the whole, "And with this push of a button..." shit
Nov 21st 2008
34
                True.
Nov 21st 2008
36
      He was kicking ass, though!!
Dec 01st 2008
47
Gotta be DH2DH
Nov 21st 2008
28
DH 2 also has the most unnecessary male ass/nudity in film history
Nov 21st 2008
31
^^^ThaTruth?
Nov 21st 2008
35
^^^ Has never seen a Van-Damme movie
Nov 25th 2008
43
When Will, SoulHonky, and I ALL agree, you know it's legit.
Nov 21st 2008
38
T3 > DH4
Dec 01st 2008
44
Cmon yo. This should be a no-brainer.
Dec 01st 2008
48

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1. "die harder or"
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lets remake the entire first movie in an airport, even down tot he airduct bit


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2. "Die Hard IS fantastic tho"
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i can watch all them joints over and over cept 2...i dunno why i don't have that fondness for it like the others, but it was kinda boring to me i guess...

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3. "yep...2 is just missing something"
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prolly because it tried to be too much like the OG.

I still like Live Free as the second best (fuck these internet haters)...

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11. "jesus will cmon"
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>I still like Live Free as the second best (fuck these internet
>haters)...



u cant seriously enjoy that film at ALL... with a vengeance is hot - deal with it

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14. "as if I could lose anymore respect for a Pats fan..."
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15. "says the guy who likes Live Free or Die Hard.."
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I can understand not liking With a Vengeance, but cmon

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18. "my movie theater was riveted...best summer flick of 2007"
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27. "that was the worse movie i ever seen in theaters"
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n/m

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29. "I don't care"
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37. "RE: I don't care"
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thats cool doesnt change the fact that the movie was asstastic and someone loving it makes me question their choice in movies.. i thought ptper's was real about theirs

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39. "still don't care"
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keep replying to me tho

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40. "You misspelled "fantastic.""
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41. "nah i think i got it right"
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with asstastic.. and i could care less if homie cares.. you replied to me..

and when i can im gonna build a castle that touches the clouds,
not to get closer to god but to get further from y'all

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4. "The one with the weakest villain sittin behind a computer the whole time"
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5. "Exactly. Shit was dumb."
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45. "But he HACKED THE INTERNETS!"
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All of them!

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46. "And I hacked up a lugi & spit it on the screen"
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6. "Here's the order"
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Die Hard
Die Hard 3
Die Hard 2
Watching dog sh*t crust over in the hot sun
Live Free or Die Hard


Die Hard 1 is the GOAT action movie. So of course that's number 1.

Die Hard With A Vengeance is a very underrated classic. Admittedly, I didn't like it when I saw it in the theatres. I thought it was alright. But when I caught it again on HBO the next year, I learned to appreciate its genius. And I watch it again, and again when they show it on TV.

Die Hard 2 was a worthy sequel. I really enjoyed it a lot. I mean, it had James Evans Senior up in there! And the twist of him being a bad guy through me.

Live Free was some effin' trash. I hate this movie with a passion. It was so dumb and NOT Die Hard. If you asked me, "16 Blocks" would have been a better Die Hard than this smut. I really think they could have reworked the "16 Blocks" script to make it a John McClane Die Hard flick.
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Soul Men: B
Zack and Miri: B
Indiana Jones: Crystal: D+
Secret Life of Bees: B
Dan in Real Life: C
What Happens in Vegas: C
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7. "he basically was what McClane would be at that age."
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really depressed and beaten down by life.

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42. "Nah"
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I kind of got the feeling that after Mclain had been through everything he had, he got a kick out of everything in the 4th one. I think it was a nod to the audience, that after all the ridiculous shit that had happened to him, he himself knew that he'd be alright, and he was having fun. I kind of liked his attitude in the 4th one.

  

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8. "RE: Which Movie Was the Weak Link in the Die Hard series????"
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vengance
die hard
LFODH
die harder

  

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9. "That last one. I want my fucking money back."
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10. "#2."
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Die Harder was the weakest link, primarily because he spent most of his time bickering with the cops. They'd throw in a few bad guys on the ground for him to fend off but the movie didn't work.

I also agree that 16 Blocks could have made for a GREAT Die Hard movie. Switching it so he's fighting against cops and protecting a criminal.

I'd rank 'em:
Die Hard
Live Free or Die Hard
Die Hard with a Vengeance
16 Blocks
Die Harder

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12. "you too with LFoDH at #2? we must have seen different movies"
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16. "I don't know what's wrong with these people"
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LFODH was straight up trash! Like that movie was horrible. I don't see how people can even consider that as the second best of the series.


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17. "I almost walked out, it was embarassing - shouldn't have been made"
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20. "I heard the complaints and went in expecting a superhero movie"
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So I loved it. If you expected anything even remotely realistic, I could see why you wouldn't have liked it.

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23. "and it's not like 3 was super realistic anyway..."
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24. "True. But LFoDH was extra."
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If I hadn't gone into the film expecting that, I might have been bullshit about it too.

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13. "The last one is borderline UNWATCHABLE"
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At least the second one is tolerable.
And before you ask - the third one's the best.

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25. "How the fuck do you come up with the third one being the best???"
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even over the OG?????
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30. "now *this* is a terrible opinion"
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>And before you ask - the third one's the best.

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19. "The last one is a CLASSIC."
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26. "Not a classic, but a damn good ride. Worthy entry in the series...."
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21. "Die Harder, due to the lack of good supporting characters."
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Think about it - EVERY other Die Hard has solid, entertaining, and/or sympathetic supporting characters. Die Hard 2 doesn't. That's why it sucks...or, actually...it's one of many reasons, but it does, in fact, suck.

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22. "Good call."
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The main bad guy had zero personality. Rickman, Irons and even Olyphant blow that guy out of the water.

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32. "Olyphant was terrible. He sat on his ass the whole movie."
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At least the other guys actually got involved & did some dirty work

  

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33. "Die Hard villains all spent 80% of the movie talking on a walkie."
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- The guy in 2 didn't do shit. Oh, he did shoot off a lot of blanks at John Amos.
- Jeremy Irons had a little more to do but wasn't all that busy.
- Rickman's shining moment was when he got to show off his American accent.

And Maggie Q and the dude who jumped all over the place were the best henchman out of any of the sequels.

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34. "Fair enough. But the whole, "And with this push of a button..." shit"
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was worn the fuck out in LFODH.

Yes the blanks were corny in 2 but I still liked the airport stuff.

>- The guy in 2 didn't do shit. Oh, he did shoot off a lot of
>blanks at John Amos.
>- Jeremy Irons had a little more to do but wasn't all that
>busy.
>- Rickman's shining moment was when he got to show off his
>American accent.
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>And Maggie Q and the dude who jumped all over the place were
>the best henchman out of any of the sequels.


  

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36. "True."
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The movie is far from perfect and is joyfully stupid but I thought it was ridiculously entertaining.

And at least the silly stuff was more fun than scenes like the ejector seat in 2.

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47. "He was kicking ass, though!!"
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The last one is the weak link because John McClain not cursing everyone out through out the movie is blasphemy!!

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spenzalii
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Fri Nov-21-08 02:53 PM

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28. "Gotta be DH2DH"
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As mentioned, the original still has to be the GOAT action flick, hands down. I can still watch this one on a drop of a dime. For teh life of me I never understood the hate DHWAV got. I thought it rocked, and it did get better with age. So he was going all across NYC. That movie was badass. GRODT, err, LFODT wasn't great, but it wasn't nearly as bad as many people make it to be. Summer movie of the year? Not a chance. Entertaining? Yes. If it wasn't part of the DH franchise, it would have fared much better.

But DH2 just seemed like a straight port of DH at Dulles. Same setup, same cop (what's the chances of that?) boring ass villain...at best it was too cliche, at worse it just wasn't good.

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Matinho
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Fri Nov-21-08 04:26 PM

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31. "DH 2 also has the most unnecessary male ass/nudity in film history"
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(imo at least) with that ridiculous martial arts bullshit at the beginning

I don't know if that should be another detractor/reason for why the movie sucks so bad or if it should be looked at as impressive considering how much unnecessary male ass/nudity there has been in history

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35. "^^^ThaTruth?"
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43. "^^^ Has never seen a Van-Damme movie"
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aka your action movie status is questionable right now.

  

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38. "When Will, SoulHonky, and I ALL agree, you know it's legit."
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LFODH is indeed second best. And Die Harder is the weak link.

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go mack
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44. "T3 > DH4"
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but not by much. I enjoyed both films for what they were, big budget action movies. Both are the weakest in the series.

  

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Mon Dec-01-08 06:56 PM

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48. "Cmon yo. This should be a no-brainer."
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The gasoline vapor trail of death? The James Evans Heel Turn? The self-referential-John-McClane-how'd-I-get-myself-into-mo-shit monologue?

Any answer other than Die Hard 2: Die Harder is a waste of a vote.
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