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bshelly
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"My favourite Bourne movie was the first one, Enemy of the State"
Mon May-12-08 08:15 PM by bshelly

  

          

You know, the movie that the Bourne series bit its cinematography and themes from and replaced will with an angel faced white dude.

Have you talked about it?

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except that it isn't anything like it.
May 12th 2008
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did i say they were the same movie? no
May 12th 2008
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My favourite Bourne movie was the first one, Enemy of the State
May 12th 2008
3
Plus, calling Damon 'angel-faced' is somewhat hoeaghmoeau
May 14th 2008
35
you mean The Fugitive?
May 12th 2008
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You mean, they replaced Richard Chamberlain with Will Smith
May 12th 2008
5
I like this post.
May 12th 2008
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me2
May 13th 2008
10
I love it when OKSports rhetoric hits PTP
May 13th 2008
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^^^
May 13th 2008
11
AKA "When men with working Y chromosomes come into PTP"
May 13th 2008
12
      Uh... I'll beat a nigga's ass with a film reel?
May 13th 2008
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      I'll submit a short to sundance featuring me whooping your ass.
May 13th 2008
14
           i'll fuckin, i'll fuckin tie you to a chair and make you watch kill bill
May 13th 2008
19
                I'll fucking, fucking, remake Monster's Ball with you and Mo'nique
May 13th 2008
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                     oooooooooooooooooooooooo (c) Mef
May 13th 2008
29
                     f....FUCK may......f....f....FEED may! Fuck may....
May 14th 2008
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      nope!! your boy truth is catching feelings over this garnett thing
May 13th 2008
18
           I wasn't tryna clown you. The opposite, if anything.
May 13th 2008
20
Enemy of the State is The Conversation with some car chases
May 13th 2008
8
Enemy of the State was a great movie
May 13th 2008
9
Enemy of the State was horrible
May 13th 2008
15
i'm kinda partial to the second Bourne movie. when ol' girl...
May 13th 2008
16
Earl Hickey gets run over by a bus EARLY in the 1st one soooooo
May 13th 2008
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      i thought that was in Enemy of the State.
May 13th 2008
23
the irony here is that
May 13th 2008
22
^^^A basic layup in the open court
May 13th 2008
24
I knew I liked this post.
May 13th 2008
25
bshe__y
May 13th 2008
26
__ for a double dose of this losin
May 13th 2008
27
I guess it does occaisonally get entertaining 'round these parts
May 13th 2008
28
To produce an unexpected, undesired result.
May 13th 2008
30
I chuckled
May 14th 2008
31
i'm guessing you didn't step foot in a major bookstore chain
May 14th 2008
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just for being a piling on asshole who doesn't read
May 14th 2008
33
      temper, temper. the book came out in 1980, fam.
May 14th 2008
34
           In 1980 it was all about Dr. Seauss and Encyclopedia Brown
May 14th 2008
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           ha! that's a great reference, i loved those books
May 14th 2008
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           why'd you say 2002 then?
May 14th 2008
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                RE: why'd you say 2002 then?
May 14th 2008
40
                     no. i actually can't believe i have to translate shit talk to emascules...
May 14th 2008
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                          no translation needed, just say what you mean the first time
May 14th 2008
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1. "except that it isn't anything like it."
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Mon May-12-08 08:51 PM by Cold Truth

  

          

except that the bourne books predated enemy of the state the movie.

except that will smith was a lawyer who was just caught up in some shit accidental like and wound up an unwitting target of a politician trying to keep some shit under wraps, and bourne was a highly trained assassin with amnesia trying to figure out who he was while being hunted down by the people who created him.

except that they monitored robert deans every move with bugs and satellites, whereas jason bourne could be right under their noses and they wouldn't notice till he told him

one film shows how the government can be peeping toms and fuck with every facet of our lives if they want to

the other shows how the government gets down with their international espionage game

don't let the satellite feeds fool you

while there is some common ground here, it's a helluva reach to say that these are the same movie

if you *really* wanted to go in on the bourne films, The Long Kiss Goodnight was the correct choice.

  

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2. "did i say they were the same movie? no"
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i said the bournes bit their entire look and central theme (resourceful individual beating technology).

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3. "My favourite Bourne movie was the first one, Enemy of the State"
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right there

or did you forget?

  

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35. "Plus, calling Damon 'angel-faced' is somewhat hoeaghmoeau"
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lol

Damon looked intense throughout the Bourne movies. It was Will who had that dumbfounded "deer caught in the headlights" look.

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4. "you mean The Fugitive?"
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oh and any Bourne movie >>>>> Enemy of the State

  

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5. "You mean, they replaced Richard Chamberlain with Will Smith"
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Mon May-12-08 08:59 PM by SoulHonky

          

and then replaced Will Smith with Matt Damon. 20 years ago, Chamberlain was nominated for a Golden Globe for his portrayal of Jason Bourne in the TV movie, The Bourne Identity.

And, let's be real, Enemy of the State was just a Tony Scott version of The Net.

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6. "I like this post."
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7. "I love it when OKSports rhetoric hits PTP"
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11. "^^^"
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12. "AKA "When men with working Y chromosomes come into PTP""
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Just saying

and Bshelly is the sensitive one in Sports.
He's pig-headed compared to most of y'all

Not hatin'

Just saying


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13. "Uh... I'll beat a nigga's ass with a film reel?"
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She's so hot
She's so flippin' hot
She's like a curry
I wanna tell her how hot she is
But she'll think I'm being sexist
She's so hot, she's makin' me sexist
B*tch

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14. "I'll submit a short to sundance featuring me whooping your ass."
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^^^See how natural that was.

I've been like that forever, but Sports encourages
such wonderful behavior from men(women too...Write
will have niggas crying in here)

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19. "i'll fuckin, i'll fuckin tie you to a chair and make you watch kill bill"
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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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21. "I'll fucking, fucking, remake Monster's Ball with you and Mo'nique"
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I'm sayin



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29. "oooooooooooooooooooooooo (c) Mef"
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n/m

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18. "nope!! your boy truth is catching feelings over this garnett thing"
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and i realized this was wrestling a long time ago.

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20. "I wasn't tryna clown you. The opposite, if anything."
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>and i realized this was wrestling a long time ago.

You stay keepin cats in line about their homophobia,
which is on point.

I'm just saying the guys in PTP are extra in
the other direction.

  

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8. "Enemy of the State is The Conversation with some car chases"
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n/m

  

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9. "Enemy of the State was a great movie"
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Bourne too, but I prefer Enemy
not the same movie though

  

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15. "Enemy of the State was horrible"
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Yeah, that greyed out, heavily edited style is similar, but people like Ridley Scott/David Fincher have been doing it for a minute.


Bourne was vastly superior.

  

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16. "i'm kinda partial to the second Bourne movie. when ol' girl..."
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17. "Earl Hickey gets run over by a bus EARLY in the 1st one soooooo"
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23. "i thought that was in Enemy of the State."
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22. "the irony here is that"
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You said that The Bourne Identity 'bit' the cinematography from Enemy of the State.

That could be because the same guy did cinematography work for both movies.

I guess he bit himself. Nasty.

  

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You shoulda slammed that one home, doggie.

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from '02-07

those books *stayed* up front in the bestsellers

  

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120660/

note the date, Jesus Fish.

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34. "temper, temper. the book came out in 1980, fam."
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like i said, had you stepped foot in a bookstore, you might've known that.

  

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37. "In 1980 it was all about Dr. Seauss and Encyclopedia Brown"
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If you chose to open the 2nd door, and go to page 32, you'd know that.

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38. "ha! that's a great reference, i loved those books"
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39. "why'd you say 2002 then?"
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and since the last two are only loosely based on the books, well, maybe you should wiki more.

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40. "RE: why'd you say 2002 then?"
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because the books were so popular when the movies came out

kinda like 'zodiac' was a very popular book when 'zodiac' the movie came out, 'v for vendetta' was s very popular comic when the movie came out, so forth and so on

but those bourne books were huge, they everywhere during the movies - grocery store, target, airports, never mind the book store

as far as your wiki comment, i'll let that go, you're just gasping for air at this point

  

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41. "no. i actually can't believe i have to translate shit talk to emascules..."
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maybe, just maybe, what i meant is that enemy of the state succeeded and some exec went, hm, i bet another movie like it--or the Matrix, or one of the 5000 other films like it--could succeed. are there any stories out there that will tell people the same basic story again?

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42. "no translation needed, just say what you mean the first time"
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the problem with your argument is that 'enemy of the state' wasn't a very original movie to begin with...yes it's possible that someone saw its success and said 'hey let's piggyback on that movie's popularity', but it's not very likely, IMO

as someone has already said, 'enemy of the state' had more in common with films like 'the conversation' or 'blow up', which wasn't quite the same thing as what the bourne story was

i'd say it's more likely that spy movies inspired the producers to make the bourne movies...james bond, perhaps, or maybe even 'spy game' which came out before bourne (*checks allmovie to make sure*)...'spy game' kinda had that hyper-editing, european espionage setting that bourne had

  

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