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Topic subject | My favourite Bourne movie was the first one, Enemy of the State |
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371102, My favourite Bourne movie was the first one, Enemy of the State Posted by bshelly, Mon May-12-08 08:15 PM
You know, the movie that the Bourne series bit its cinematography and themes from and replaced will with an angel faced white dude.
Have you talked about it?
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371109, except that it isn't anything like it. Posted by Cold Truth, Mon May-12-08 08:47 PM
except that the bourne books predated enemy of the state the movie.
except that will smith was a lawyer who was just caught up in some shit accidental like and wound up an unwitting target of a politician trying to keep some shit under wraps, and bourne was a highly trained assassin with amnesia trying to figure out who he was while being hunted down by the people who created him.
except that they monitored robert deans every move with bugs and satellites, whereas jason bourne could be right under their noses and they wouldn't notice till he told him
one film shows how the government can be peeping toms and fuck with every facet of our lives if they want to
the other shows how the government gets down with their international espionage game
don't let the satellite feeds fool you
while there is some common ground here, it's a helluva reach to say that these are the same movie
if you *really* wanted to go in on the bourne films, The Long Kiss Goodnight was the correct choice.
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371110, did i say they were the same movie? no Posted by bshelly, Mon May-12-08 08:50 PM
i said the bournes bit their entire look and central theme (resourceful individual beating technology).
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371113, My favourite Bourne movie was the first one, Enemy of the State Posted by Cold Truth, Mon May-12-08 08:52 PM
right there
or did you forget?
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371496, Plus, calling Damon 'angel-faced' is somewhat hoeaghmoeau Posted by MANHOODLUM, Wed May-14-08 09:13 AM
lol
Damon looked intense throughout the Bourne movies. It was Will who had that dumbfounded "deer caught in the headlights" look.
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371114, you mean The Fugitive? Posted by InKast, Mon May-12-08 08:53 PM
oh and any Bourne movie >>>>> Enemy of the State
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371116, You mean, they replaced Richard Chamberlain with Will Smith Posted by SoulHonky, Mon May-12-08 08:57 PM
and then replaced Will Smith with Matt Damon. 20 years ago, Chamberlain was nominated for a Golden Globe for his portrayal of Jason Bourne in the TV movie, The Bourne Identity.
And, let's be real, Enemy of the State was just a Tony Scott version of The Net.
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371142, I like this post. Posted by Frank Longo, Mon May-12-08 10:36 PM
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371184, me2 Posted by Ceej, Tue May-13-08 08:20 AM
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371157, I love it when OKSports rhetoric hits PTP Posted by Premiere, Tue May-13-08 12:01 AM
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371188, ^^^ Posted by ZooTown74, Tue May-13-08 08:46 AM
________________________________________________________________________ Oh my God She's so hot She's so flippin' hot She's like a curry I wanna tell her how hot she is But she'll think I'm being sexist She's so hot, she's makin' me sexist B*tch
- Bret McKenzie
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371191, AKA "When men with working Y chromosomes come into PTP" Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-13-08 08:52 AM
Just saying
and Bshelly is the sensitive one in Sports. He's pig-headed compared to most of y'all
Not hatin'
Just saying
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O_E: Your Super-Ego's Favorite Poster.
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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371194, Uh... I'll beat a nigga's ass with a film reel? Posted by ZooTown74, Tue May-13-08 09:09 AM
________________________________________________________________________ Oh my God She's so hot She's so flippin' hot She's like a curry I wanna tell her how hot she is But she'll think I'm being sexist She's so hot, she's makin' me sexist B*tch
- Bret McKenzie
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371199, I'll submit a short to sundance featuring me whooping your ass. Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-13-08 09:41 AM
^^^See how natural that was.
I've been like that forever, but Sports encourages such wonderful behavior from men(women too...Write will have niggas crying in here)
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O_E: Your Super-Ego's Favorite Poster.
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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371215, i'll fuckin, i'll fuckin tie you to a chair and make you watch kill bill Posted by bshelly, Tue May-13-08 10:47 AM
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371222, I'll fucking, fucking, remake Monster's Ball with you and Mo'nique Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-13-08 10:56 AM
I'm sayin
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O_E: Your Super-Ego's Favorite Poster.
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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371368, oooooooooooooooooooooooo (c) Mef Posted by bshelly, Tue May-13-08 04:41 PM
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371498, f....FUCK may......f....f....FEED may! Fuck may.... Posted by MANHOODLUM, Wed May-14-08 09:15 AM
n/m
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371214, nope!! your boy truth is catching feelings over this garnett thing Posted by bshelly, Tue May-13-08 10:46 AM
and i realized this was wrestling a long time ago.
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371217, I wasn't tryna clown you. The opposite, if anything. Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-13-08 10:53 AM
>and i realized this was wrestling a long time ago.
You stay keepin cats in line about their homophobia, which is on point.
I'm just saying the guys in PTP are extra in the other direction.
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371158, Enemy of the State is The Conversation with some car chases Posted by mrshow, Tue May-13-08 12:04 AM
n/m
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371183, Enemy of the State was a great movie Posted by budz4zo, Tue May-13-08 08:07 AM
Bourne too, but I prefer Enemy not the same movie though
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371202, Enemy of the State was horrible Posted by BigReg, Tue May-13-08 10:00 AM
Yeah, that greyed out, heavily edited style is similar, but people like Ridley Scott/David Fincher have been doing it for a minute.
Bourne was vastly superior.
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371203, i'm kinda partial to the second Bourne movie. when ol' girl... Posted by DawgEatah, Tue May-13-08 10:04 AM
***SPOILERS***
... gets murked in the first 20 minutes of the film, i knew shit was gonna be official.
http://www.avatarsdb.com/avatars/I_gotcha.gif http://fuck-your.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/insightclopediabrown http://www.myspace.com/dumhi http://www.youtube.com/group/okayplayer http://www.last.fm/user/Dawgeatah
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371211, Earl Hickey gets run over by a bus EARLY in the 1st one soooooo Posted by Ceej, Tue May-13-08 10:33 AM
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371226, i thought that was in Enemy of the State. Posted by DawgEatah, Tue May-13-08 11:02 AM
http://www.avatarsdb.com/avatars/I_gotcha.gif http://fuck-your.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/insightclopediabrown http://www.myspace.com/dumhi http://www.youtube.com/group/okayplayer http://www.last.fm/user/Dawgeatah
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371225, the irony here is that Posted by BigWorm, Tue May-13-08 11:01 AM
You said that The Bourne Identity 'bit' the cinematography from Enemy of the State.
That could be because the same guy did cinematography work for both movies.
I guess he bit himself. Nasty.
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371228, ^^^A basic layup in the open court Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue May-13-08 11:03 AM
You shoulda slammed that one home, doggie.
Maybe you ain't got ups.
You gotta tap the backboard and growl at least.
I mean shit.
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O_E: Your Super-Ego's Favorite Poster.
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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371305, I knew I liked this post. Posted by Frank Longo, Tue May-13-08 01:50 PM
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371348, bshe__y Posted by dula dibiasi, Tue May-13-08 03:54 PM
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371355, __ for a double dose of this losin Posted by jigga, Tue May-13-08 04:15 PM
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371362, I guess it does occaisonally get entertaining 'round these parts Posted by Bombastic, Tue May-13-08 04:25 PM
'I like this post'(c)Longo
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371445, To produce an unexpected, undesired result. Posted by likwit_crew, Tue May-13-08 11:13 PM
backfire (băk'fīr')
intr.v., -fired, -fir·ing, -fires
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371455, I chuckled Posted by JungleSouljah, Wed May-14-08 12:40 AM
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371468, i'm guessing you didn't step foot in a major bookstore chain Posted by inpulse, Wed May-14-08 05:55 AM
from '02-07
those books *stayed* up front in the bestsellers
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371473, just for being a piling on asshole who doesn't read Posted by bshelly, Wed May-14-08 07:23 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120660/
note the date, Jesus Fish.
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371487, temper, temper. the book came out in 1980, fam. Posted by inpulse, Wed May-14-08 08:42 AM
like i said, had you stepped foot in a bookstore, you might've known that.
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371499, In 1980 it was all about Dr. Seauss and Encyclopedia Brown Posted by MANHOODLUM, Wed May-14-08 09:19 AM
If you chose to open the 2nd door, and go to page 32, you'd know that.
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371528, ha! that's a great reference, i loved those books Posted by inpulse, Wed May-14-08 10:44 AM
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371529, why'd you say 2002 then? Posted by bshelly, Wed May-14-08 10:45 AM
and since the last two are only loosely based on the books, well, maybe you should wiki more.
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371531, RE: why'd you say 2002 then? Posted by inpulse, Wed May-14-08 10:52 AM
because the books were so popular when the movies came out
kinda like 'zodiac' was a very popular book when 'zodiac' the movie came out, 'v for vendetta' was s very popular comic when the movie came out, so forth and so on
but those bourne books were huge, they everywhere during the movies - grocery store, target, airports, never mind the book store
as far as your wiki comment, i'll let that go, you're just gasping for air at this point
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371535, no. i actually can't believe i have to translate shit talk to emasculese Posted by bshelly, Wed May-14-08 11:01 AM
maybe, just maybe, what i meant is that enemy of the state succeeded and some exec went, hm, i bet another movie like it--or the Matrix, or one of the 5000 other films like it--could succeed. are there any stories out there that will tell people the same basic story again?
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371540, no translation needed, just say what you mean the first time Posted by inpulse, Wed May-14-08 11:14 AM
the problem with your argument is that 'enemy of the state' wasn't a very original movie to begin with...yes it's possible that someone saw its success and said 'hey let's piggyback on that movie's popularity', but it's not very likely, IMO
as someone has already said, 'enemy of the state' had more in common with films like 'the conversation' or 'blow up', which wasn't quite the same thing as what the bourne story was
i'd say it's more likely that spy movies inspired the producers to make the bourne movies...james bond, perhaps, or maybe even 'spy game' which came out before bourne (*checks allmovie to make sure*)...'spy game' kinda had that hyper-editing, european espionage setting that bourne had
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